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On February 04 2014 09:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Jay, let me slippery slope this argument.
Suppose I invoke a policy that "I will vote the player with the smallest filter at 30 minutes to deadline".
How do you avoid drawing my vote? By spamming as much as possible.
How do you conclude that I'm "almost advocating to let people lurk"? I literally ask that question as a rhetorical because its implied that lurking is bad. Is this real life right now?
Why use a logical fallacy. 40 posts is a decent benchmark to strive to hit. I said we should try to hit it but not spam. There is obviously a middle ground. Implying that we should vote simply on the basis of posts was not the intention.
And no this isn't real life your playing a forum game called mafia 
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Balla's played a few games Jay. Did his vote on LM then leaving strike you oddly?
This isn't even worth discussing anymore. No one's being lynched for having 39 quality pro-town posts. It's a fine benchmark.
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On February 04 2014 08:58 jaybrundage wrote:
Balla is this your first mafia game? I was browsing some of this towns old games and didn't see you.
Nope. Just played LXIV which is ongoing, Normal Mini Episode 1, and the last 4 newbie games. Just search my post history for this forum and you'll find them. I'm not in the database yet.
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Oh you're back. Why did you vote lm so quickly?
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On February 04 2014 09:27 JonnyLaw wrote:
Balla's played a few games Jay. Did his vote on LM then leaving strike you oddly?
This isn't even worth discussing anymore. No one's being lynched for having 39 quality pro-town posts. It's a fine benchmark.
I liked his vote on LM. I noticed earlier when i was going thru some players in the mafia database that his name wasn't anywhere. And his opening seemed like he wasn't new.
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Because he opened by saying something super ambiguous and unclear as to what he meant for no reason instead of just saying what he thought.
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On February 04 2014 09:31 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:58 jaybrundage wrote:
Balla is this your first mafia game? I was browsing some of this towns old games and didn't see you.
Nope. Just played LXIV which is ongoing, Normal Mini Episode 1, and the last 4 newbie games. Just search my post history for this forum and you'll find them. I'm not in the database yet.
Where you mafia in any of them?
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Yes. LXIV which is ongoing. NMM1 and my first 2 newbie games. You can just go to my profile, click my post count and then select TL Mafia Forum to find them.
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Balla's been scum in 3 outta 4 games we played. I'm forcing myself not to call him scum out of habit. Jay you've made me think I should put my games in my profile as well. Hmm...I'll do that now actually.
I actually like your reasoning looking at it again. He comes in and justifies lurking. Huh?
I still agree with his second post.
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Jonny as you have had alot of experience with Balla as scum how would you say he plays as a scum player. Whats his tells if you will
Guess your not in the database either huh jonny XD If your gonna compile your games you might as well make a post in the mafia database with them listed and a quick review :o
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Sure. Setting up profile right now. I'll copy/paste it into database thread.
Not inquisitive. And no thread presence. His filters in the town games are like 3x the size of the scum games.
Basic mafia trying to misdirect attention.
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Wait Jonny, so first you're like "And what the fuck is that vote? Lonemeow's said the most sensible thing since this game started."
On February 04 2014 07:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Well, for starters I don't quite agree with your "minimum post count" thing. I'll support a lurker lynch if it's necessary, but based on amount of content, not number of posts.
and now you're like I like Balla's reasoning for voting LoneMeow, "He comes in and justifies lurking."
So do you think LoneMeow is being reasonable, or do you think he's making excuses?
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On February 04 2014 09:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Balla's been scum in 3 outta 4 games we played. I'm forcing myself not to call him scum out of habit. Jay you've made me think I should put my games in my profile as well. Hmm...I'll do that now actually.
I actually like your reasoning looking at it again. He comes in and justifies lurking. Huh?
I still agree with his second post.
2/3 no?
But yeah. I'd prefer he laid out what he's thinking unless he has a specific reason for doing so. His other posts are meh.. making an excuse for himself not posting already cause that's what he does, in his third post. His second post is something that everybody will agree with, town and scum so sure it's sensible but not really that interesting.
I much prefer hopeless' way of thinking about it. Becoming motivated because there is an imposed limit rather than making an excuse to not meet a standard.
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Lol wtf game started today afterall.
Anyhow regarding policy shit, not much to say, think it's covered allready. But yeh, look for content instead not postcount. We do NOT want ppl spamming useless shit.
On February 04 2014 09:47 jaybrundage wrote:Jonny as you have had alot of experience with Balla as scum how would you say he plays as a scum player. Whats his tells if you will Guess your not in the database either huh jonny XD If your gonna compile your games you might as well make a post in the mafia database with them listed and a quick review :o
Why did you want Jonny to out Ballas scumtells in the thread this early before Balla even had a chance to play into them ?
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Suki I instinctively hated the vote. Everyone was discussing that policy which i think is silly and LM's post didn't stand out to me.
I agreed with his second post and dismissed the other one. That first one is an excuse for lurking. I dunno if that's scummy or not. Let's see how LM proceeds from here. Maybe I have a soft spot from him hosting one of our newbie games.
And no balla it's 3/4
NMM xlvii, L and normal mini I
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Doesn't matter ss. If you read my filter from normal mini you'll see them all.
I used that as my only credentials for not being lynched in that game. If Balla's scum, he'll die.
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+ Show Spoiler [@Jonny] +I was town in L, we've only played those 3 games together.
On February 04 2014 09:56 suki wrote:Wait Jonny, so first you're like "And what the fuck is that vote? Lonemeow's said the most sensible thing since this game started." Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 07:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Well, for starters I don't quite agree with your "minimum post count" thing. I'll support a lurker lynch if it's necessary, but based on amount of content, not number of posts. and now you're like I like Balla's reasoning for voting LoneMeow, "He comes in and justifies lurking." So do you think LoneMeow is being reasonable, or do you think he's making excuses?
What's wrong with changing your mind after reading someone's reasoning? Why is that scummy?
What do YOU think about it?
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On February 04 2014 10:14 sidesprang wrote:Lol wtf game started today afterall. Anyhow regarding policy shit, not much to say, think it's covered allready. But yeh, look for content instead not postcount. We do NOT want ppl spamming useless shit. Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:47 jaybrundage wrote:Jonny as you have had alot of experience with Balla as scum how would you say he plays as a scum player. Whats his tells if you will Guess your not in the database either huh jonny XD If your gonna compile your games you might as well make a post in the mafia database with them listed and a quick review :o Why did you want Jonny to out Ballas scumtells in the thread this early before Balla even had a chance to play into them ?
Scum tells are much harder to change then it would appear. It isn't easy for balla to change his scum play on the dime so it isn't like its helping balla if he rolled scum this game. I would like to know for a point of reference for my self and for the thread so they can know what to look out for.
By talking with jonny even about basic stuff like this it can help me get a read on him as well. Day 1 is all about generating discussion. I'm sure if I hadn't asked this question and Balla had a similar game to his scum games and Jonny noticed this he would of made a case using his knowledge. So I can only think of good reasons to ask.
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Hi everyone
On February 04 2014 07:25 suki wrote:
3. Koshi you're advocating policy lynching people who don't hit 40 posts a day? That's nice, however I don't policy lynch unless there's no better option for lynching scum.
What did you mean "that's nice"? Why didn't you give thoughts on the policy instead of just making a generic statement against policy lynches?
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Balla, I didn't state and I don't think that he changed his mind, I just thought it was interesting that JonnyLaw both saw LoneMeow to be reasonable stating that content was more important than quantity, while also seeing LoneMeow as giving excuses for lurking.
Why does what I say mean I think Jonny is scummy Balla? I made no such inference in my post.
I personally don't see anything wrong with LoneMeow's posts.
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