On February 06 2014 04:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
but not if I'm scum
/waiting on Jonny's next post.
but not if I'm scum

/waiting on Jonny's next post.
I would prefer not

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On February 06 2014 04:11 Hopeless1der wrote: Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 04:03 jaybrundage wrote: @Hopeless Oh, I wasn't addressing your hypothetical situation in my post. But yes if you could save your self and your town you should take it. but not if I'm scum ![]() /waiting on Jonny's next post. I would prefer not ![]() | ||
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On February 06 2014 04:24 Balla24 wrote: @Jaybrundage What's your opinion of Koshi now? Haven't really looked to much into him. I'll take a gander and get back to you. | ||
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I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day. I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads. On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote: Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it... I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1. ##unvote ##vote: Hopeless On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote: On February 06 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote: Also, I defended you like mad in the game we were masoned as town. Why do you forget that and paint it scummy this game? you were mod confirmed mason? Or was this LXIII? Also I read your case on Jonny as pointing out a progression of "LM totes town" to "I could lynch LM". Jonny never actually gets all the way to the end of that progression. This is the post that is closest to saying he'd lynch LM, but that is only to plant the thought that its a possibility, not that he'd actually do it: On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote: LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him. Hi cakeman. Please don't become lynch bait by not posting if you're town. + Show Spoiler [@balla] + This is driving me nuts. I literally just looked at those games as i changed my profile. nmm xlvii end gamed by balla scum nmm L, I was shot n2, balla shot N3 nmm LI, balla shot jonnylaw N1 normal mini mafia iballa lynched day 1 LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill. Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny. | ||
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Here are the updated vote counts. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left. (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Lonemeow Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der - 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:32 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote: hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum. This is such a bad post. Just wow. O.o is explaining my thought process a bad thing? | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:37 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 05:18 LoneMeow wrote: On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote: On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote: On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote: I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis. I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam? Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here. That's actually what worries me most about him, since the town-Alakaslam I know plays far more scummy than this one :D On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote: That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this. This I do agree with. Not sure what to make of him overall. Why, thank you- I guess this is working ![]() Anyhow my rea on jaybrundage. If he saw my trap a mile away, why did he still go trip it? Why didn't he post like balla24 and/or point out it was a trap? Why does he want me to think he is scum- as either alignment? Yet he claims my stupid trap was blatant? Your "trap" was stupid. It was I'm gonna post random votes that look scummy and see who notices. Everyone who is currently in the thread is going to notice and should call you out. Scum can call you out or town. Its not alignment indicative. While finishing my post asking about your random switches. I thought to my self hes going to probably making some dumb "its a trap guys hurr durr" post. | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote: Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy. I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day. I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads. Show nested quote + On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote: Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it... I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1. ##unvote ##vote: Hopeless Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote: On February 06 2014 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote: On February 06 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote: Also, I defended you like mad in the game we were masoned as town. Why do you forget that and paint it scummy this game? you were mod confirmed mason? Or was this LXIII? Also I read your case on Jonny as pointing out a progression of "LM totes town" to "I could lynch LM". Jonny never actually gets all the way to the end of that progression. This is the post that is closest to saying he'd lynch LM, but that is only to plant the thought that its a possibility, not that he'd actually do it: On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote: LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him. Hi cakeman. Please don't become lynch bait by not posting if you're town. + Show Spoiler [@balla] + This is driving me nuts. I literally just looked at those games as i changed my profile. nmm xlvii end gamed by balla scum nmm L, I was shot n2, balla shot N3 nmm LI, balla shot jonnylaw N1 normal mini mafia iballa lynched day 1 LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill. Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny. Lets lynch Koshi. Maybe Hopeless. Yeah those are good lynches. Don't lynch cakeman. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote: hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum. Here are the updated vote counts. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left. (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) Hmm we should lynch hopeless. LoneMeow maybe but he's easy to lynch later anyways. Lets lynch hopeless. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Lonemeow Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down. 1. Balla24 2. Sidesprang 3. Alakaslam 4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats 5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage 6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam 7. Hopeless1der - 8. Oatsmaster 9. JonnyLaw 10. Suki 11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left (Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.) Oh alright you guys, I guess I can lynch LoneMeow. Btw we should totes lynch Hopeless. | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote: Jay tell me what evidence you have to believe I'd be a strong scum player? In comparison to Lonemeow you post more and actually make cases. | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:00 Hopeless1der wrote: @Jay That was all the content and direction you provided the thread in each of those reads. You fluffed up your posts with votecounts (which is scummy on its own btw) and you aren't pushing your own lynches, you're just casually floating along with the thread. It reads like "look at me I'm here and posting and want to help." without actually doing productive things. Posting vote counts is a null tell. I want the thread aware of where we are in regards to lynching someone and the host wasn't keeping it as up to date as i would of liked. I originally posted the case on Lonemeow. WTF are you talking about? I then wanted to get on you because your scummy for reason I have posted. | ||
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On February 06 2014 05:55 Hopeless1der wrote: ^ Reasons why Jaybrundage's vote on LoneMeow looks convoluted and bandwagony. Oh btw here was the case on Lonemeow I made. You know how i was first to vote him and create a case on him. I would of spoilered it or put a link but apparently you missed it the first time. Your reasons for my vote looking bandwagony is pretty idiotic : / Lonemeow I want to lynch lonemeow. He claims that people should be judged on the content. But he doesn't bring much to the table. As a preface I was originally planning on pushing Mista Cake but going over his filter I felt that he was actively trying to figure out the game so I abandoned that suspect and looking over filters and players lonemeow caught my eye. He starts off the game with a post saying basically he doesn't post much and it doesn't seem like he plans to change. However the point of these policy discussions is that we should be striving to post more. Not even making an attempt at trying to improve his town play is scummy to start with. On February 04 2014 07:33 LoneMeow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2014 07:16 Koshi wrote: On February 04 2014 07:13 JonnyLaw wrote: Half the game won't meet those requirements. Being nice is too hard. People are lazy. Lynching lurkers is fine but your 40 posts are ambitious. Who isn't going to meet those requirements? You've played with me before... Here lonemeow is basically setting himself up to lurk the rest of the game. Content and Number of posts go hand in hand. If you only post 3 things a cycle your not gonna have much content. Even if your put alot of information in those posts it doesn't replace the ability to talk reads out with players and converse. And lets be honest Lonemeow doesn't even put alot in the few posts he has. On February 04 2014 07:40 LoneMeow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2014 07:38 Koshi wrote: Also. Mr. Stray Kitten. Just say what you think whenever you think it. Well, for starters I don't quite agree with your "minimum post count" thing. I'll support a lurker lynch if it's necessary, but based on amount of content, not number of posts. Here is a classic scum post ask a question with out putting any content. Do you think this makes X town or scum? That's it. Notice that LM also comments on this because he was mentioned in the previous post. He does this more often then not making a comment on something if he is involved at all. He doesn't really care about reads. He just wants to appear to care. On February 04 2014 19:44 LoneMeow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote: On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote: Meh, okay so she dislikes everything I say. I think they mean the same thing. I guess it could be taken as she thinks im misguided sometimes rather than simply scummy. Her question seemed legit enough but balla's right. At the start of day 1 I want to see what someone is willing or able to bring to the game. There's no point saying much until they show what they're committing. At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game. Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game. How am I scum for things that other people do? JL says this: LM is null. Koshi is scum because LM acted like he participated in the game and then fucked off. There are other people like LM who are faking to participate in the game. Does this make JonnyLaw scum or just town using broken logic? So here is Lonemeow's I would say one of his top posts. Which looking at the content is pretty disappointing. He says jonny gets hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when he is town. Ok great some new information. Chiming in on someone's tell's when there town while may appear helpful. Is easy to do as scum as they already know the alignment of said person. Of course as you can see in the second part of the post. Lonemeow notices that he is mentioned so he tries to defend him self. On February 04 2014 19:55 LoneMeow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 04 2014 19:49 Koshi wrote: On February 04 2014 19:44 LoneMeow wrote: On February 04 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote: On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote: Meh, okay so she dislikes everything I say. I think they mean the same thing. I guess it could be taken as she thinks im misguided sometimes rather than simply scummy. Her question seemed legit enough but balla's right. At the start of day 1 I want to see what someone is willing or able to bring to the game. There's no point saying much until they show what they're committing. At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game. Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game. How am I scum for things that other people do? JL says this: LM is null. Koshi is scum because LM acted like he participated in the game and then fucked off. There are other people like LM who are faking to participate in the game. Does this make JonnyLaw scum or just town using broken logic? I give him a point in the scum collomn. Don't know what Jonny his deal is but he has been hostile towards me from the get go. He answered pretty hostile on my policy thing, but that was null. But then he taunted me with the PYP Inventor thing and I was just "ok w.e". And now he is saying that due to my shitposting people can act scummy, but those people are null. He's generally very hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when town, though, so I wouldn't read too much into that. I find it suspicious that he is angry about me "fucking off" then right in the next post says you're probably not posting because you're asleep - we both have country tags visible so he should've applied the same logic to figure out that I was probably also sleeping. Asking another question with no content. Also notice that the subject is about lonemeow as he doesn't usually venture to give much input on other topics. On February 04 2014 19:56 LoneMeow wrote: What do you make of Balla24's vote/unvote on me? Gonna lump these under questions with out content On February 04 2014 21:09 LoneMeow wrote: Is Koshi scum? On February 04 2014 22:04 LoneMeow wrote: Is there anything else about him that makes you think so besides the policy thing? On February 05 2014 01:01 LoneMeow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote: mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post. Is there anything else in this game that you think is worth talking about than Koshi's "shitposting"? On February 05 2014 05:31 LoneMeow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2014 04:56 Balla24 wrote: I think you are misrepresenting a lot of what jonnylaw said there Koshi and oftentimes ignoring the context of his posts. I'll just leave it at that for now cause i brb t_T Please point out where Koshi is misrepresenting and/or ignoring context. Yes hopeless1der not posting for a day after 2 contentless posts is bad. I think we all can agree with that. Easy to say as either alignment this as it is very obvious. He gives leaning town read on cake. Who is freely posting. Again easy to give town reads as scum. They know who is town already. Then he defends himself again. Showing that he just wants to defend himself. That's his biggest goal this game. To try to not post much content and make sure he can slide by. On February 05 2014 01:10 LoneMeow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2014 01:03 Oatsmaster wrote: On February 05 2014 01:01 LoneMeow wrote: On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote: mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post. Is there anything else in this game that you think is worth talking about than Koshi's "shitposting"? how everyone doesnt really want to find scum lol. I dunno, nothing really stood out. I would really like to discuss cakemanofdoom and hopeless though, what are your thoughts on them? Hopeless1der has not produced anything that I find directly useful for deducing his alignment. Which, in itself, could become alignment indicative. cakemanofdoom seems to post pretty freely which makes me lean town on him, but I found this weird: Show nested quote + On February 04 2014 12:20 cakemanofdoom wrote: I wanna see more posts from LoneMeow. His first post doesn't seem very alignment-indicative to me; just a throwaway comment. Response to the vote is a decent explanation. Aside from that, his only post is about how post quality is more important than number of posts. True, but overall he's made too few posts/contributions for me to read him. That puts him more scummy than not. Why did he single out me as someone who has not posted much and claim I'm scummy based on that, given that at the time there were many others who would fit the criteria aswell? So in summary I think Lonemeow is posting with the intention to remain unreadable . He has posted largely all questions with out interjecting much of his own opinion in the thread. He gives town reads but never suspects anyone as scum to date. He doesn't seem to want to be encouraged to post more although this can only produce more content for town which makes him easier to read and helps the town. When I made a post directed at lonemeow to try to set a goal for himself to post more often and with content. He completely ignores it. He rather just try to slide by with out posting content and make himself not readable. ##Vote Lonemeow | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:37 cakemanofdoom wrote: Though I'm not sure why jay reposted his case on LM. I didn't like it that much in the first place, and LM's only been seeming more town since then. I posted it to make a point. Hopeless was acting like I just jumped on Lonemeow with no reasoning or thought of my own. Which is untrue. I do agree with you that Koshi is pretty scummy. I'm not sure about hopeless anymore. He seems to have alot of passion which is indicative of town. | ||
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I am not the scum your looking for however. I do understand your trying to get me lynched to save your life. I'm going to be switching to Koshi as him not caring seems pretty indicative of scum. ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi On February 06 2014 06:44 LoneMeow wrote: This wagon on me is a mislynch and jaybrundage is scum. This progressing is incredibly unnatural: Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote: Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy. I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day. I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads. Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote: hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum. Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Lonemeow Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down. Doesn't mention me as a lynch choice (despite having cased me earlier!) -> decent lynch -> votes me. I have convinced myself he's scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: jaybrundage | ||
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On February 06 2014 06:49 JonnyLaw wrote: Show nested quote + On February 06 2014 06:48 jaybrundage wrote: Hm seeing that you still care about this game makes you not as likely scum I am not the scum your looking for however. I do understand your trying to get me lynched to save your life. I'm going to be switching to Koshi as him not caring seems pretty indicative of scum. ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi On February 06 2014 06:44 LoneMeow wrote: This wagon on me is a mislynch and jaybrundage is scum. This progressing is incredibly unnatural: On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote: Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy. I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day. I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads. On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote: hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum. On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Lonemeow Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down. Doesn't mention me as a lynch choice (despite having cased me earlier!) -> decent lynch -> votes me. I have convinced myself he's scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: jaybrundage You know switching to Koshi gets you lynched right? Bleh I wish i could see vote counts easier : / | ||
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