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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 03:10 GMT
#427
On February 05 2014 12:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 12:00 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh man jay why are you so concerned on what people think about you?

The first step to playing town is to show your innocence. If people think your innocent then your one less mislynch and people will be more likely to listen to you.

Like in LOL PYP I thought supersoft was scum on like day 2. But I couldn't convince anyone to vote with me. After the game someone mentioned to me that cause I looked scummy I was less likely to get support.

Also I learned shit in the shadow game #learn #smrt #townielyfe
it also makes you look like you care.more about looking like town than finding scum

Why can't I do both? Did you not read my case on Lonemeow
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 03:13 GMT
#430
On February 05 2014 12:03 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 11:49 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:23 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:17 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:05 Balla24 wrote:
I'd lynch LoneMeow.



That's fine.

I want to talk about Jay. He's actually here. Both times I question him about something he comes in with a town-like response to the questions. Jay refuses to do that until there's pressure on him though. How is this town behavior?

I find this funny. Should I come up with a scum like response? Also you do realize that I was making that case before you posted your "pressure" on me.


I'm trying to talk to you Jay. You called Suki scum twice then change your mind once she posts a case on Oats.

What do you think about Oats? You claim to like the case but don't say anything else. I want to know why. You've played with Oats before this game.

We can chat about Lonemeow after this if you'd like. For now, I'm curious about some of your opinions.


Yes I thought suki was scummy before. Her thing about not calling Jonny scum but interesting or what ever word she used did bother me. She just seemed to have no point to your posts. However with her case on Oats it showed that she wasn't just trying to appear to be posting. She actually was analyzing the game and looking for scum. So my read turned on her. Is it possible she's scum that noticed she was getting heat and decided to post a case? Sure possible. But I think the most likely possibility at this point is town.

I don't remember Oats too well in my previous games. He was never someone I really suspected. He can be hard to draw a bead on sometimes. Not a huge poster mostly short clip comments. I even had to go back and look briefly at the LoL PYP game. I think the case made good points I hadn't noticed before. Oats was not on my lynch list before Suki posted her case. And she made a good enough case for me to consider lynching him.

Also I felt the reason to make my own case because I want to contribute to the town. I didn't plan to just sheep Suki's read and just say yea I like all this Ill join. Because I wanted to post my own analysis I got's me an ego you know. Also by posting other scummy people we can choose as a town who we want to go for based on the information we have.



You don't need to sheep Suki. Post your opinion. "I like this part and I don't like this part." You're trying to tell people how to play and what to look for and then you have that post. You flip on Suki and at the same time aren't trying to convince people how to play the game anymore.


##vote Jaybrundage

I have no need to defend oats. Oats can do that himself. I liked the case in general. Why should I nitpick when I have no need too. Can I not agree with a case? I liked the case. Its that simple. I agree with the case. I dont see how you don't get it. Yes I changed my read on suki. I'm trying to figure out the game. She made a good case so more likely to be town.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 03:33 GMT
#435
On February 05 2014 12:22 JonnyLaw wrote:
The rest of it seems like normal Oats posts.

Oats is doing whatever he wants. Oats seems more comfortable. Jay feels like he's buying town cred. Jay's leading the town over a cliff.

I'm gonna go reread some filters.

Ok lemme get this straight. You think im scum. But you don't disagree about my case on lonemeow. So what am I doing that is so scummy. If you say acting townie or some stupid shit like that. I won't be happy.

On February 05 2014 12:25 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 12:23 Balla24 wrote:
On February 05 2014 12:22 JonnyLaw wrote:
The rest of it seems like normal Oats posts.

Oats is doing whatever he wants. Oats seems more comfortable. Jay feels like he's buying town cred. Jay's leading the town over a cliff.

I'm gonna go reread some filters.


So you completely disagree with his LoneMeow case then?



Of course not. I think he makes a lot of reasonable points. I can filter anyone and find reasonable points.

I think Jay's scummier than LM or Oats.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 03:47 GMT
#438
On February 05 2014 12:37 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 12:33 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 05 2014 12:22 JonnyLaw wrote:
The rest of it seems like normal Oats posts.

Oats is doing whatever he wants. Oats seems more comfortable. Jay feels like he's buying town cred. Jay's leading the town over a cliff.

I'm gonna go reread some filters.

Ok lemme get this straight. You think im scum. But you don't disagree about my case on lonemeow. So what am I doing that is so scummy. If you say acting townie or some stupid shit like that. I won't be happy.

On February 05 2014 12:25 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 12:23 Balla24 wrote:
On February 05 2014 12:22 JonnyLaw wrote:
The rest of it seems like normal Oats posts.

Oats is doing whatever he wants. Oats seems more comfortable. Jay feels like he's buying town cred. Jay's leading the town over a cliff.

I'm gonna go reread some filters.


So you completely disagree with his LoneMeow case then?



Of course not. I think he makes a lot of reasonable points. I can filter anyone and find reasonable points.

I think Jay's scummier than LM or Oats.



Scum can make a decent case too.

I've said why I think you're scummy. You tell other players what to do and don't do it yourself unless questioned. Until your post on LM you said nothing all game. I really, really hate your post about suki. It's not about "oats defending himself." It's what do you think about it. It made suki town in your eyes. I get it. What do you think about the case and Oats? I don't care if you think Suki's town suddenly because of one post.

You seem to be focusing to much on one post I made that you don't like instead of looking at my game play as a whole.

On Oats I looked over his responses and saw that Balla thought they were good. When looking then over tho. I still don't find them to be great.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 03:49 GMT
#439
@Jonny Also I posted the lonemeow case before I saw your post. I was finished with my case and I read up on the thread to see if anything happened when I was gone. Saw your post so i posted a funny ok ill start playing the game. And posted my case. Your assertion that I just started hunting scum cause you made a post on me is wrong.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 04:18 GMT
#445
On February 05 2014 13:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
I wasnt aware I had an established "entrance" meta. Oats, I wanna see this, please respond. Don't worry I'll OMGUS to your hearts content.

Wow so your actively lurking instead of posting something with content.

##Vote Hopeless1der
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 16:31 GMT
#522
On February 06 2014 01:05 LoneMeow wrote:
jaybrundage, when you're around please explain why you decided to make your case on me instead of say Hopeless1der whose posting up to that point wasn't really any better?

I made my case on you because your posting at that point didn't show much analysis from you. You asked a lot of questiions and gave a town read here and there. But until your big post recently your didn't appear to have any suspicions of scum.

I didn't make a case on hopeless because he hadn't posted anything since his 2 posts. Being in the thread and not making any significant contributions is different then being afk for a long period of time. When I saw that he was actively lurking however and not posted any content I placed a vote on him because that is unacceptable.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 16:42 GMT
#532
On February 06 2014 01:31 suki wrote:
##unvote
##vote cakemanofdoom

Hopeless is making sense.

cake has been wishy washy all game. He bandwagons onto Hopeless, even though he thinks Koshi is mafia. He's ok with voting LoneMeow because LM is lurking.

Like, he's taking the easy path. I read through his filter and I learn absolutely nothing. Like, it seems like he's contributing but when you really look closely he's not really saying anything that progresses towards a lynch. Even his case against Koshi feels non-enthusiastic.

I was suspicious of Cake man of doom. Originally he was my first suspect for scum. But when I was trying to write a case on him. I felt that he was a townie trying to figure things out as opposed to a scum. I think that his reads were flexible and changing is a good thing. As townies who can see new things and change reads are more likely to be the ones trying to figure out the game.

This post here is one that I didn't like tho. The lack of caring just set off alarms. A lynch should be something that is thought on and alot of consideration should go into it. Just dropping his vote, Not trying to figure out the alignment of the person he is voting is pretty scummy. And stands in pretty stark contrast to most other parts of his filter.

What do you think Suki?

On February 05 2014 16:58 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Meh. Maybe, I guess.

Actually, I don't really care right now. I'm fine with lynching Hopeless either way.

##Vote Hopeless1der
Going to sleep. I'm also fine with lynching LM and Koshi.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 16:48 GMT
#540
Does anyone else think that Hopeless being gone for twenty four hours. Coming back and getting on the popular sentiment of oats being scum and the two cases on him. While also OMGUS'ing Oats is a bit suspicious?

It seems like he made was just pushing Oats back cause he needed to come back in the thread with something. After calling Oats scummy. He made up his own case so he wouldn't be blatantly sheeping.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 16:52 GMT
#544
On February 06 2014 01:48 jaybrundage wrote:
Does anyone else think that Hopeless being gone for twenty four hours. Coming back and getting on the popular sentiment of oats being scum and the two cases on him. While also OMGUS'ing Oats is a bit suspicious?

It seems like he made EDIT a scum read to just push EDIT Oats back cause he needed to come back in the thread with something. After calling Oats scummy. He made up his own case so he wouldn't be blatantly sheeping.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 16:56 GMT
#550
On February 06 2014 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 01:48 jaybrundage wrote:
Does anyone else think that Hopeless being gone for twenty four hours. Coming back and getting on the popular sentiment of oats being scum and the two cases on him. While also OMGUS'ing Oats is a bit suspicious?

It seems like he made was just pushing Oats back cause he needed to come back in the thread with something. After calling Oats scummy. He made up his own case so he wouldn't be blatantly sheeping.

I tried blatantly sheeping and got shot down Jay. I thought Oats was scum. Am I supposed to spam "OATS SCUM KILL IT" and leave it at that? I'm also not simply tunneling Oats to infinity.

You haven't actually commented on the case. Can I get your thoughts on how you feel about Oats claiming everything early on re:Koshi was just pressure?

I have gone back and forth on Oats. Right now I think him pressuring Koshi for content is a reasonable explanation. Koshi hadn't posted much beyond his early policy. After that he didn't really say much. His post when he got frustrated with Oats. Showed that Oat's pressure was working and getting to him.

And thru that post Oats deemed him more likely town. The pressure had a purpose and that was to reveal Koshi's alignment and it seemed to have worked for Oats.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 17:21 GMT
#552
On February 06 2014 01:52 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 01:48 jaybrundage wrote:
Does anyone else think that Hopeless being gone for twenty four hours. Coming back and getting on the popular sentiment of oats being scum and the two cases on him. While also OMGUS'ing Oats is a bit suspicious?

It seems like he made was just pushing Oats back cause he needed to come back in the thread with something. After calling Oats scummy. He made up his own case so he wouldn't be blatantly sheeping.


He was actually asked to make a case earlier and he had promised one:

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 15:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 05 2014 15:18 suki wrote:
On February 05 2014 15:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
As for being a perfect sheep, yes I'm sorry I wasn't around to make the case myself. Do you want me to go quote Oats' filter 5 times and explain why he's still scum for the stuff you say he's refuted?


On second thought, I think this would be quite helpful. You don't have to quote his filter 5 times but if you can explain why you think his defense did not appropriately address my case that would be good.

kk first thing when I wake up.




@cakeman, you were reluctant to vote jay earlier (when you were saying koshi is scum). What changed?


I'd call him scum if he didn't make one after that.

Lonemeow do you not think him being asked to make one, isn't suspicious in it self? Also if your promise to make a case you better make it as either alignment or your just not playing the game at that point.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 17:22 GMT
#553
On February 06 2014 02:20 Balla24 wrote:
Let's get some votes plz gogo everyone... only 5 hours to lynch~

Woah is it that close. What do you think about the lynch being on hopeless atm?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 17:22 GMT
#554
Just to be clear.

##Unvote
##Vote Hopeless1der
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 18:15 GMT
#570
Where is cake? I would like him to be able to defend himself if hes a candidate to get lynched.

Hopeless If you get lynched today what would your prediction for a scum team be?
Can we get a vote count?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 18:38 GMT
#582
On February 06 2014 03:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 03:30 Balla24 wrote:
On February 06 2014 03:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
balla pretend the votes are 5-5 and my vote is on cakeman. Its 5 minutes to deadline. What do I do?

I disagree that taking ages to develop scumreads is waffling.

[


I didn't say that, I said he's beating around the bush. Not that he's being indecisive.
As town, I don't think you should have gotten yourself in that kind of situation.

If you really think cakeman is scum, and the votes aren't going in your way, and you've done everything you think you can to convince town that you are not scum, lonemeow is not scum and cakeman is. Then you shouldn't vote lonemeow to save yourself because YOU THINK he's town, and the town sentiment clearly thinks you are scum. You saving yourself will just make you be a HUGE question mark for the rest of the game.


In that case town sentiment is so wrong that I am obligated to keep myself alive as the sole voice of reason to salvage a terrible situation. You are wrong sir. As any faction, one should never roll over and die.

I would of been happier if you felt obligated to not leave the thread for 24 hours.

You must know why your being lynched. At this point I would just get all your thoughts out. In the unlikely case that your town. Acting like its town's fault for your lynch is a bit egotistical.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 18:48 GMT
#586
On February 06 2014 03:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 03:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 06 2014 03:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 06 2014 03:30 Balla24 wrote:
On February 06 2014 03:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
balla pretend the votes are 5-5 and my vote is on cakeman. Its 5 minutes to deadline. What do I do?

I disagree that taking ages to develop scumreads is waffling.

[


I didn't say that, I said he's beating around the bush. Not that he's being indecisive.
As town, I don't think you should have gotten yourself in that kind of situation.

If you really think cakeman is scum, and the votes aren't going in your way, and you've done everything you think you can to convince town that you are not scum, lonemeow is not scum and cakeman is. Then you shouldn't vote lonemeow to save yourself because YOU THINK he's town, and the town sentiment clearly thinks you are scum. You saving yourself will just make you be a HUGE question mark for the rest of the game.


In that case town sentiment is so wrong that I am obligated to keep myself alive as the sole voice of reason to salvage a terrible situation. You are wrong sir. As any faction, one should never roll over and die.

I would of been happier if you felt obligated to not leave the thread for 24 hours.

You must know why your being lynched. At this point I would just get all your thoughts out. In the unlikely case that your town. Acting like its town's fault for your lynch is a bit egotistical.

woah I never said its towns fault for lynching me. I'm not going to cite the many instances where I self-depreciate my own play by calling it scummy because I do it in damn near every game. However, Balla is telling me I should kill myself to save town the grief of reading me later. Do you agree with him? I should knowingly allow a guaranteed mislynch to occur?

If your playing the game and trying your best as town then of course you shouldn't just allow your self to be lynched. But you did kind of allow this to happen. You complete absence from the thread is very telling and the strongest part of why your getting lynched.

I will say that in some cases of lurkers it would be easier to have them modkill themselves then have to waste a lynch on them.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 19:01 GMT
#594
On February 06 2014 03:49 suki wrote:
first off modkilling oneself is not in the spirit of the game.

second, you're all seriously pressuring Hopeless solely on the point that he was afk for 24 hours? He can't do anything about that now but he seems to be putting in effort now.

Oh I agree completely. I am just being brutally honest.

No I never said that was the sole reason. It's a big part of the reason tho. Other things are
  • Him coming back in the thread sheeping thread sentiment and trying to get Oats lynched

  • Writing up a case only when forced too instead of bring his own reasons initially

  • Actively lurking


Do you think these are valid reasons to lynch someone suki?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 19:03 GMT
#595
@Hopeless Oh, I wasn't addressing your hypothetical situation in my post. But yes if you could save your self and your town you should take it.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 19:05 GMT
#597
On February 06 2014 03:54 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'm catching up in the thread.

DO NOT LYNCH CAKE.

I REPEAT DO NOT LYNCH CAKEMAN!

DO NOT FUCKING LYNCH CAKEMANOFDOOM!

I'll post more in 5 mins. That case is fucking awful.

Yea hes not my preferable lynch either
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