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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 19:25 GMT
#615
Jonny is the latest "foot in mouth" candidate. I dont see any discussion of Jay between the two posts I cite Re:cakeman. (2nd last on page 23 and 12th on page 24)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 19:27 GMT
#618
3) Town. I was afk 24 hrs and did nothing and came back to find scum and lynch them
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 19:33 GMT
#624
No LXIII was my last scumgame
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 19:44 GMT
#633
@Jonny the revelation that cakeman had a seeming change-of-heart based on nothing doesn't do it for you? I follow your argument that he has had a similar playstyle in other games, but he literally chases after his own tail here with no outside influence.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 19:54 GMT
#641
On February 05 2014 18:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Day 1 - Deadline at Wednesday, Feb 05 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Hopeless1der (4): Oatsmaster, suki, Balla24, cakemanofdoom
Oatsmaster (1): Hopeless1der, suki, Balla24, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw (1): Koshi
jaybrundage (1): JonnyLaw
Hopeless1der (1): jaybrundage
Koshi (0): Oatsmaster
LoneMeow (0): Balla24, jaybrundage

Not voted: (3): Sidesprang (will be replaced after D1), Alakaslam, LoneMeow
If there's any mistakes, please let me know. At the moment, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:36 GMT
#672
I went to get lunch guys holy shit
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:41 GMT
#676
@Jay you mentioned that you thought cakeman changing his mind and seeing new information was a townie trait. He did so regarding you with literally no new information. Why is that a townie mindset?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:44 GMT
#679
damnit slam...fucking king of WIFOM bombs over here.

Slam what are your thoughts on cakeman? You're just tuneling jay and not giving us anything else.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:45 GMT
#681
Jay tell me what evidence you have to believe I'd be a strong scum player?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:52 GMT
#686
##Unvote
##vote jaybrundage
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:54 GMT
#688
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote:
Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it...

I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1.

##unvote
##vote: Hopeless


Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote:
Also, I defended you like mad in the game we were masoned as town. Why do you forget that and paint it scummy this game?

you were mod confirmed mason? Or was this LXIII?

Also I read your case on Jonny as pointing out a progression of "LM totes town" to "I could lynch LM". Jonny never actually gets all the way to the end of that progression. This is the post that is closest to saying he'd lynch LM, but that is only to plant the thought that its a possibility, not that he'd actually do it:
On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him.

Hi cakeman. Please don't become lynch bait by not posting if you're town.

+ Show Spoiler [@balla] +
This is driving me nuts. I literally just looked at those games as i changed my profile.

nmm xlvii end gamed by balla scum

nmm L, I was shot n2, balla shot N3

nmm LI, balla shot jonnylaw N1

normal mini mafia iballa lynched day 1



LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill.

Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny.



Lets lynch Koshi. Maybe Hopeless. Yeah those are good lynches. Don't lynch cakeman.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.

Here are the updated vote counts.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left.

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Hmm we should lynch hopeless. LoneMeow maybe but he's easy to lynch later anyways. Lets lynch hopeless.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Lonemeow


Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Oh alright you guys, I guess I can lynch LoneMeow. Btw we should totes lynch Hopeless.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 20:55 GMT
#691
^
Reasons why Jaybrundage's vote on LoneMeow looks convoluted and bandwagony.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#696
@Jay That was all the content and direction you provided the thread in each of those reads. You fluffed up your posts with votecounts (which is scummy on its own btw) and you aren't pushing your own lynches, you're just casually floating along with the thread. It reads like "look at me I'm here and posting and want to help." without actually doing productive things.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#698
On February 06 2014 05:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 05:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Jay tell me what evidence you have to believe I'd be a strong scum player?

In comparison to Lonemeow you post more and actually make cases.

Yeah guys, activity and reasoning = scum. You heard it here first.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:10 GMT
#704
Sorry Balla, the confirmation bias is strong here. Do you not see my point though? He is calling me scum for playing in a pro-town manner.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:17 GMT
#709
I'm sorry to keep harping on things here but....
On February 06 2014 06:08 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so gonna take a step back I get a bit heated when people post that Im scum. When I'm doing my best effort to play like a strong townie. I'm going to listen to some music and take a look at the post about cake changing his reads that hopeless mentioned to me that i wasn't able to look up on.

I will still respond if i find something i deem worth responding too.

How is jay not aware of this when he gives cakeman a townread after the discussion about him?

On February 06 2014 03:15 jaybrundage wrote:
Where is cake? I would like him to be able to defend himself if hes a candidate to get lynched.

Hopeless If you get lynched today what would your prediction for a scum team be?
Can we get a vote count?

Here he clearly knows that cakeman is up for discussion, but he claims to have not looked up on why that was just now...



On February 06 2014 06:13 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 06:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
Sorry Balla, the confirmation bias is strong here. Do you not see my point though? He is calling me scum for playing in a pro-town manner.


Kind of, but I don't think it's correct. I see where it's coming from. But he's not calling you SCUM because you post more cases and whatever, he's calling you a possibly good scum player. He's calling you scum for the content you produced and the way you handled yourself early game.

I can see that side of things but to me he's fearmongering the thread into lynching me because I suddenly became active and potentially readable. I dont like it because if anything he should be able to get me lynched based on the content I have produced, not the threat that I'll be able to fool people. The mentality doesnt sit right.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:26 GMT
#712
Suki or Balla, what do you make of the fact that Jay literally reposted his old case without updating it based on anything else that LoneMeow has done?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:46 GMT
#723
On February 06 2014 06:43 suki wrote:
I like my vote where it is.

I also think valid points are being raised against Jay and will look at him closer after the lynch.

Not cool suki...There is still 15 minutes to look at things. Why won't you actually look at Jay now, especially when he is voting for the same person you are?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:51 GMT
#738
On February 06 2014 06:47 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 06:44 LoneMeow wrote:
This wagon on me is a mislynch and jaybrundage is scum.

This progressing is incredibly unnatural:
On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.


On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.


On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Lonemeow


Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down.


Doesn't mention me as a lynch choice (despite having cased me earlier!) -> decent lynch -> votes me.

I have convinced myself he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: jaybrundage


I had the impression that he always had you as a lynch target. Since his case on you.

This seems reasonable but jay had nothing to do with LM gaining traction, lumps himself in with the crowd and then when he's called out on it he points back to his severely outdated case and says "what now?" Your case shouldn't hold the same merit it did yesterday as it does today and he JUST addressed that point and has moved his vote onto Koshi.

And admittedly Koshi's afk looks bad but I can't reconcile Jay to a town mindset right now.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 21:52 GMT
#743
ugh dat claim doe....you didnt happen to crumb did you jay?
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