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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 05 2014 01:02 GMT
#381
bleh I dont know if suki is scum or misreading multiple people.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 05 2014 01:05 GMT
#382
Anyway everyone should lynch hopeless because he started this game significantly differently from the past 2 town games he has been in.
No gg, No skill.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 01:06 GMT
#383
Make the case~ don't rely on us to look at what you're trying to tell us.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 05 2014 01:19 GMT
#384
On February 05 2014 10:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway everyone should lynch hopeless because he started this game significantly differently from the past 2 town games he has been in.


playing different. must be scum. Oats, forgive me when I scoff at that post. (I havent really read shit, starting now)
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 01:27 GMT
#385
I want to talk about Jay.

After Jay's done talking about policy he starts posting that he's doing what a good townie would be doing. But I don't believe he's actually doing it. Just talking.

He starts off talking about Sidesprang out of all of the lurkers. I ask him why Sidesprang and his answer made sense to me originally.

I should properly preface this by saying that before the game as I was looking at some of the games from other players. I noticed sidesprang had a worrying about of posts in his town game. Perhaps like 2 - 3 posts a cycle and that was pushing it. I noted that and planned to put alot of pressure on him this game. I was considering trying to start a policy lynch on him with my first post to get conversation moving and put pressure.


Then he reveals he hasn't really looked into others later. I think his filter dive on sidesprang could be a bus or he did it when pressured about why he wanted to go after sidesprang. LM, cakeman and prob others have short filters in their recent games as well. Who are these other people he looked into then? Jay's saying "look I did super town things hunting scum."


On February 04 2014 08:58 jaybrundage wrote:
Balla is this your first mafia game? I was browsing some of this towns old games and didn't see you.


On February 04 2014 09:47 jaybrundage wrote:
Guess your not in the database either huh jonny XD If your gonna compile your games you might as well make a post in the mafia database with them listed and a quick review :o

On February 04 2014 12:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 04 2014 12:13 suki wrote:
And what reasons do you have for saying Jay is town?

he's trying to advance the game to find scum duhhhh.

Whats up Masta of the Oats?

Been a long time since we played ill have to look ya up. Tho I don't like the buddying atm :o



Then there's the entire interaction with Suki.

This is out of the big list thread. Which I hated by the way. Jay's telling the town to post clearly and giving advice while doing the exact opposite the entire game. There's not one concise read.

On February 04 2014 12:24 jaybrundage wrote:

10. Suki scummy I don't like suki so far she just seems like she has no real motivation behind her posting. Her poke at jonnys waffleing was ok but then when balla inquired about it she said she never said she implied hes scum or anything LIke wtf? Why poke at someone but have no real reason behind it. It would seem that she didn't understand him but then she didn't say that she got very defensive. Said she didn't see anything with LM posting slight defending I dont like her atm


He goes from that to this. I can understand changing your mind but I don't think that case was straightforward or even particularly good.

On February 05 2014 02:35 jaybrundage wrote:
SUKI GONNA RUSTLE SOME JIMMIES

I like your case seems well thought out and pretty straight forward logic. The first big case of the thread :D


On February 05 2014 02:48 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 02:38 Alakaslam wrote:
pffft.

you all crappin on my styles

##unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster


His flip may provide sufficient information in and of itself. If he is town, we take his posting to this point more seriously. Otherwise, oh happy day!

He is not particularly townie so there should be no problem with this.

So looking at my posting the thing that you might perceive as "scummy" Is that I am not posting my own opinion as much as prodding other's for information. And that is intentional I want to see more posting from lurkers that is my number 1 concern at the moment. I want to be able to separate the town lurkers to the scum lurkers.

My other question is why did you vote Lonemeow but then vote Oatsmaster when suki and Balla made cases and votes against him. What was your initial intention to vote lone meow in the first place?

Why switch over to Oats just cause thread sentiment is going in that direction.


Town should be posting opinions and hunting scum. Yet there's none of that here.

When are you going to start playing this game Jay? Pressuring and even voting lurkers is fine by me. You're not above the game though.

Lets chat.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 01:47 GMT
#386
Jay never said how he felt about Suki's case either. Yes, we can all see it's a case. What do you think of it? I have yet see and opinion except that list post.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 01:48 GMT
#387
*any
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 01:51 GMT
#388
Fine Jonny ill start playing the game gosh...
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 01:51 GMT
#389
Lonemeow

I want to lynch lonemeow. He claims that people should be judged on the content. But he doesn't bring much to the table. As a preface I was originally planning on pushing Mista Cake but going over his filter I felt that he was actively trying to figure out the game so I abandoned that suspect and looking over filters and players lonemeow caught my eye.

He starts off the game with a post saying basically he doesn't post much and it doesn't seem like he plans to change. However the point of these policy discussions is that we should be striving to post more. Not even making an attempt at trying to improve his town play is scummy to start with.

On February 04 2014 07:33 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 07:16 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2014 07:13 JonnyLaw wrote:
Half the game won't meet those requirements. Being nice is too hard. People are lazy.

Lynching lurkers is fine but your 40 posts are ambitious.

Who isn't going to meet those requirements?


You've played with me before...


Here lonemeow is basically setting himself up to lurk the rest of the game. Content and Number of posts go hand in hand. If you only post 3 things a cycle your not gonna have much content. Even if your put alot of information in those posts it doesn't replace the ability to talk reads out with players and converse. And lets be honest Lonemeow doesn't even put alot in the few posts he has.
On February 04 2014 07:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 07:38 Koshi wrote:
Also. Mr. Stray Kitten. Just say what you think whenever you think it.


Well, for starters I don't quite agree with your "minimum post count" thing. I'll support a lurker lynch if it's necessary, but based on amount of content, not number of posts.


Here is a classic scum post ask a question with out putting any content. Do you think this makes X town or scum?
That's it. Notice that LM also comments on this because he was mentioned in the previous post. He does this more often then not making a comment on something if he is involved at all. He doesn't really care about reads. He just wants to appear to care.
On February 04 2014 19:44 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Meh, okay so she dislikes everything I say. I think they mean the same thing. I guess it could be taken as she thinks im misguided sometimes rather than simply scummy.

Her question seemed legit enough but balla's right. At the start of day 1 I want to see what someone is willing or able to bring to the game. There's no point saying much until they show what they're committing.

At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game.

Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game.

How am I scum for things that other people do? JL says this:
LM is null.
Koshi is scum because LM acted like he participated in the game and then fucked off.
There are other people like LM who are faking to participate in the game.


Does this make JonnyLaw scum or just town using broken logic?




So here is Lonemeow's I would say one of his top posts. Which looking at the content is pretty disappointing. He says jonny gets hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when he is town. Ok great some new information. Chiming in on someone's tell's when there town while may appear helpful. Is easy to do as scum as they already know the alignment of said person. Of course as you can see in the second part of the post. Lonemeow notices that he is mentioned so he tries to defend him self.
On February 04 2014 19:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 19:49 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2014 19:44 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 04 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Meh, okay so she dislikes everything I say. I think they mean the same thing. I guess it could be taken as she thinks im misguided sometimes rather than simply scummy.

Her question seemed legit enough but balla's right. At the start of day 1 I want to see what someone is willing or able to bring to the game. There's no point saying much until they show what they're committing.

At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game.

Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game.

How am I scum for things that other people do? JL says this:
LM is null.
Koshi is scum because LM acted like he participated in the game and then fucked off.
There are other people like LM who are faking to participate in the game.


Does this make JonnyLaw scum or just town using broken logic?

I give him a point in the scum collomn.

Don't know what Jonny his deal is but he has been hostile towards me from the get go. He answered pretty hostile on my policy thing, but that was null. But then he taunted me with the PYP Inventor thing and I was just "ok w.e". And now he is saying that due to my shitposting people can act scummy, but those people are null.


He's generally very hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when town, though, so I wouldn't read too much into that.


I find it suspicious that he is angry about me "fucking off" then right in the next post says you're probably not posting because you're asleep - we both have country tags visible so he should've applied the same logic to figure out that I was probably also sleeping.



Asking another question with no content. Also notice that the subject is about lonemeow as he doesn't usually venture to give much input on other topics.
On February 04 2014 19:56 LoneMeow wrote:
What do you make of Balla24's vote/unvote on me?



Gonna lump these under questions with out content
On February 04 2014 21:09 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 14:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote koshi


Is Koshi scum?


On February 04 2014 22:04 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
yes koshi is scum


Is there anything else about him that makes you think so besides the policy thing?



On February 05 2014 01:01 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post.


Is there anything else in this game that you think is worth talking about than Koshi's "shitposting"?



On February 05 2014 05:31 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 04:56 Balla24 wrote:
I think you are misrepresenting a lot of what jonnylaw said there Koshi and oftentimes ignoring the context of his posts. I'll just leave it at that for now cause i brb t_T


Please point out where Koshi is misrepresenting and/or ignoring context.



Yes hopeless1der not posting for a day after 2 contentless posts is bad. I think we all can agree with that. Easy to say as either alignment this as it is very obvious.

He gives leaning town read on cake. Who is freely posting. Again easy to give town reads as scum. They know who is town already. Then he defends himself again. Showing that he just wants to defend himself. That's his biggest goal this game. To try to not post much content and make sure he can slide by.

On February 05 2014 01:10 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 01:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 05 2014 01:01 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post.


Is there anything else in this game that you think is worth talking about than Koshi's "shitposting"?

how everyone doesnt really want to find scum lol.

I dunno, nothing really stood out. I would really like to discuss cakemanofdoom and hopeless though, what are your thoughts on them?


Hopeless1der has not produced anything that I find directly useful for deducing his alignment. Which, in itself, could become alignment indicative.



cakemanofdoom seems to post pretty freely which makes me lean town on him, but I found this weird:

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:20 cakemanofdoom wrote:
I wanna see more posts from LoneMeow. His first post doesn't seem very alignment-indicative to me; just a throwaway comment. Response to the vote is a decent explanation. Aside from that, his only post is about how post quality is more important than number of posts. True, but overall he's made too few posts/contributions for me to read him. That puts him more scummy than not.


Why did he single out me as someone who has not posted much and claim I'm scummy based on that, given that at the time there were many others who would fit the criteria aswell?



So in summary I think Lonemeow is posting with the intention to remain unreadable . He has posted largely all questions with out interjecting much of his own opinion in the thread. He gives town reads but never suspects anyone as scum to date. He doesn't seem to want to be encouraged to post more although this can only produce more content for town which makes him easier to read and helps the town. When I made a post directed at lonemeow to try to set a goal for himself to post more often and with content. He completely ignores it. He rather just try to slide by with out posting content and make himself not readable.


##Vote Lonemeow
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 01:55 GMT
#390
Jay, what did you think of Suki's case on oats? I understand you like that someone finally put hard content in the game but what's your take on her views?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 01:58 GMT
#391
On February 05 2014 10:55 JonnyLaw wrote:
Jay, what did you think of Suki's case on oats? I understand you like that someone finally put hard content in the game but what's your take on her views?

I like the case as in I agree with it. I thought it did have good points. I said this is my post about it didn't I?
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The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 02:05 GMT
#392
I'd lynch LoneMeow.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 02:07 GMT
#393
Jay I think we might be the same person. It's eerie.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 02:10 GMT
#394
On February 05 2014 11:05 Balla24 wrote:
I'd lynch LoneMeow.



That's fine.

I want to talk about Jay. He's actually here. Both times I question him about something he comes in with a town-like response to the questions. Jay refuses to do that until there's pressure on him though. How is this town behavior?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 02:11 GMT
#395
The play feels so calculated. An attempt to lead the town without actually leading.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 02:15 GMT
#396
On February 05 2014 11:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 11:05 Balla24 wrote:
I'd lynch LoneMeow.



That's fine.

I want to talk about Jay. He's actually here. Both times I question him about something he comes in with a town-like response to the questions. Jay refuses to do that until there's pressure on him though. How is this town behavior?


Meh. I wouldn't say he's refusing to do it. It's ok to wait sometimes. I was choosing to wait a bit longer to post what he posted about LoneMeow, which I'm sure he was doing too until you asked him to do something.

I'm very biased though, cause he's basically my clone at this point.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 02:17 GMT
#397
On February 05 2014 11:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 11:05 Balla24 wrote:
I'd lynch LoneMeow.



That's fine.

I want to talk about Jay. He's actually here. Both times I question him about something he comes in with a town-like response to the questions. Jay refuses to do that until there's pressure on him though. How is this town behavior?

I find this funny. Should I come up with a scum like response? Also you do realize that I was making that case before you posted your "pressure" on me.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 02:23 GMT
#398
On February 05 2014 11:17 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 11:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:05 Balla24 wrote:
I'd lynch LoneMeow.



That's fine.

I want to talk about Jay. He's actually here. Both times I question him about something he comes in with a town-like response to the questions. Jay refuses to do that until there's pressure on him though. How is this town behavior?

I find this funny. Should I come up with a scum like response? Also you do realize that I was making that case before you posted your "pressure" on me.


I'm trying to talk to you Jay. You called Suki scum twice then change your mind once she posts a case on Oats.

What do you think about Oats? You claim to like the case but don't say anything else. I want to know why. You've played with Oats before this game.

We can chat about Lonemeow after this if you'd like. For now, I'm curious about some of your opinions.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 02:24 GMT
#399
JL why don't you talk about somebody else too. The world doesn't revolve around you and your cases.

I don't think we're going to get anywhere talking between us 3 about Jay. Unless you have some new information.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 05 2014 02:30 GMT
#400
Kk sorry I was playing an epic hearthstone game last time I responded to you. Priest on priest battle when down till we were both getting fatigued. He had thoughtstole my deathwing but I waited it out and Mindcontrolled it :D and won

Annnywho You have my attention lemme respond to this stuff
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