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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 04 2014 22:34 GMT
#361
I quoted it IN my vote post. You can't get more obvious than that.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 22:37 GMT
#362
Koshi, I get Jonny is #1 on your scum list. Do you also find Oatsmaster scummy? You said you had a problem with his case on you but you didn't straight out come to a conclusion.

LoneMeow Give me your top 2 scum reads and reasons, please.

Alakaslam You set a trap for Jay by voting for Oats, now you've unvoted Oats. What are your thoughts on Oats at the moment? Who are your scum picks?

Plenty of time has passed and there has been enough activity to form opinions on people. There are also several cases floating around so there is no reason for people not to contribute their thoughts on the cases and put down their vote.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2014 22:42 GMT
#363
If he doesn't take his vote off me he can die.
I had a good night of sleep.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 22:44 GMT
#364
my thoughts on Jonny right now are neutral. Jonny plays a very aggressive game as town and gets mad at people as town.

I'd like to see more from Jonny that is not related to Koshi/LoneMeow's early posts.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 22:45 GMT
#365
On February 05 2014 07:42 Koshi wrote:
If he doesn't take his vote off me he can die.


And if he takes his vote off of you?

Your statement doesn't really elaborate your thoughts towards Oats.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2014 22:55 GMT
#366
My thoughts about Oats are that he is being dumb because I am town and he should know that by now, if he doesn't he is scum. He can defend against your cases when he is back. My read on him solely rests on him saying sensible things between the contradictions. He isn't doing that.
I had a good night of sleep.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 04 2014 22:56 GMT
#367
Fair enough.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2014 23:04 GMT
#368
I am off to bed.

Ugh, I kinda botched the Jonny case. I am going to reread everything again tomorrow. Normally I don't make these kinda mistakes but it just doesn't make sense that it was all about LM saying he has a lurking meta. I have to see if Jonny his filter looks better now that is clear. Everything just didn't make sense, it might do now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 04 2014 23:08 GMT
#369
Before you go to bed can you explain this?

On February 05 2014 07:55 Koshi wrote:
My thoughts about Oats are that he is being dumb because I am town and he should know that by now, if he doesn't he is scum. He can defend against your cases when he is back. My read on him solely rests on him saying sensible things between the contradictions. He isn't doing that.


If Oats is town, why the hell would he know you are town by now?
If Oats is scum, he would obviously know you are town if you are town...

This doesn't really make sense. What's the missing information here (history I guess?)?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2014 23:18 GMT
#370
Because I do not get this worked up about a read as scum. I dont post this much as scum. I dont react this fast as scum. It is literally impossible for me to be scum atm.

The part about him being scum.is.because he is not trying to read me.

In bed atm sleeping.
I had a good night of sleep.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 04 2014 23:19 GMT
#371
Sleep tight princess.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 04 2014 23:54 GMT
#372
On February 05 2014 07:37 suki wrote:
Koshi, I get Jonny is #1 on your scum list. Do you also find Oatsmaster scummy? You said you had a problem with his case on you but you didn't straight out come to a conclusion.

LoneMeow Give me your top 2 scum reads and reasons, please.

Alakaslam You set a trap for Jay by voting for Oats, now you've unvoted Oats. What are your thoughts on Oats at the moment? Who are your scum picks?

Plenty of time has passed and there has been enough activity to form opinions on people. There are also several cases floating around so there is no reason for people not to contribute their thoughts on the cases and put down their vote.

First let me say Koshi, I haven't found jlaw's post on you. Let me find it and I'll answer you.
Suki the trap was not specifically for jay, I couldn't possibly know who would trip it. The vote was dishonest, the prior statement was. I don't try and read oats this early.

My scum picks, if I had to make them now, are jay and sidespring's slot, or Koshi, or oats. "Or"s separate between possibilities.

I do not do anything stronger than FoS yet though.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 04 2014 23:55 GMT
#373
I'll be in and out for the next few hours. First I'm going to go find some Oats town games. I played with him as scum and it looks similar to this game. I have a nagging suspicion that's how he plays every game though. I asked him yesterday to link me town games but he never responded.

I'll address Koshi's post afterwards. Not too worried about it at the moment.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 04 2014 23:56 GMT
#374
Oh and they're in his profile. That makes this easier.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 04 2014 23:59 GMT
#375
##unvote Koshi
##Vote hopeless

I never said Koshi's policy to catch scum was a good one.
I dont get it though, the cases against me just seem to be summarizing my play.
No gg, No skill.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 05 2014 00:00 GMT
#376
He also said SMB which was just played.

But yes, so far town/scum look the same for him from what i've seen. BRB cooking dinner.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 05 2014 00:00 GMT
#377
My profile isnt updated .
Most recent town games is SMB mini mafia, before that probably the large normal game hosted by marv.
No gg, No skill.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 00:03 GMT
#378
Yeah, I'm reading the normal game. You caught koshi and sn0man d2. No one listened. Poor oats.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 05 2014 00:04 GMT
#379
On February 05 2014 02:24 suki wrote:
So right now Oats is super scummy to me.

His "case" against Koshi is bad, and yet he continues to push it. He's also not consistent with his views:

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
suki nullish, dunno why she is attacking you though, bad reasons but not inherently scummy.

Cakeman also null. Same with johnny. i mean, nobody is really pushing shit and its hard to figure out if they are posting for the sake of it or posting to find scum. Literally throughout the whole 7-8 pages there is no concerted effort to push someone by anyone.

Koshi scum for suggesting a really bad policy about post counts and nothing else. It feels like bait for scum to jump on but there is no followup.


Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 00:49 Balla24 wrote:
On February 04 2014 15:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its so bad, so if its town koshi, I assume he doesnt mean it seriously and has some reason for posting it. But no signs of that so far.


Can you explain a bit more?

1. How does Koshi posting something "bad" make it bait for scum to jump on? Basically: what will scum do with it?
2. Did anybody jump on it?
3. Was this your first thought when you read it?



Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
1. Scum will go and shit on Koshi for it because its bad and scummy.
2. yeah suki and some other dudes.
3. My first thought was why is koshi proposing such a useless policy.

mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post.


This is almost a scum claim right here. Oats is doing the exact thing that he says scum would do, and yet he's calling other people out for it.

Who is Oats willing to lynch today?
This whole point makes no sense to me, I said thats what I thought koshi mightve done if he was town, at that time I thought he was scum so thats like a non-point.
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 01:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah Im not telling you my conclusions because I want to hear what you think without my conclusions coloring your analysis.
I really null on cake, what he posts when he comes back is really important and will probably decided my read. Hopeless is a useless piece of shit that we should lynch.


(... On a side note, I don't approve of the personal attack calling Hopeless a 'useless piece of shit'.)

Anyways. He suddenly thinks Hopeless is super scummy, without any reasoning. This is after LoneMeow has stated suspicions on Hopeless so it feels like a bandwagon. Hopeless was one of the people who didn't shit on Koshi's policy, and said that the policy makes him feel motivated. So this big scum tell that Oats has been pushing the entire game doesn't apply to his choice of lynches?

He reads cake as null and yet it's cake and hopeless who he wants to discuss. Why not me, who you said was scummy for 'jumping on Koshi's policy' or those 'other dudes' that you so specifically called out?

Why is LoneMeow town even though he was the most vocal about probably not meeting Koshi's 40 post policy?
[green]Again, this presupposes I think Koshi is town. Regardless, hopeless was kidding and he can be useful as town but he hasnt done anything this game. I wanted to discuss people not being discussed.
Hm. Also this exchange just leaves a bad taste in my mouth:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hi guys, [jay] probably town

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 04 2014 12:17 suki wrote:
On February 04 2014 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 04 2014 12:13 suki wrote:
And what reasons do you have for saying Jay is town?

he's trying to advance the game to find scum duhhhh.


Sorry I must be a bit slow. Can you provide a few examples where you feel that he is advancing the game to find scum?

asking all those questions


Also, why does Oats avoid Balla's question here? He's not being transparent, and if he thinks Balla is town then why throw the question back at him?
I answered the question in the next post, I was making a joke.
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 01:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 05 2014 01:53 Balla24 wrote:
Before I answer that can you answer me this:

Am I leaning town or scum? Same for LM.

I thought you disapproved of the asking questions before giving your own answers?




In summary, Oats is calling people scummy for something that he himself is actively doing. His reads on people seem random, rather than thought out. There's no logical progression on why he thinks Hopeless is super scummy and worth lynching (it feels like bandwagoning to try to push an easy lurker lynch). There's no explanation on why LoneMeow is town to him despite the dissonance with his 'Koshi policy' case.

When asked to explain himself he's extremely reluctant. He tries to deflect attention from himself. This all reads as scum to me.
So suki thinks that hopeless is town, interesting. Anyway this whole cases relies on the fact that I think Koshi's trap is good, which it isnt. So yeahhhhh not such a good case.

##vote Oatsmaster

No gg, No skill.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 05 2014 00:07 GMT
#380
Anyway, that was fruitless. The filters could be from the same game. Oats put a little more effort into the normal game but it was a much larger and faster game. I'm going to reread the thread. I'm missing something obvious and the game's still short.

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