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BECAUSE I'M TOWN AND BEING DUMB RIGHT?????? THANKS FOR CONFIRMING ME
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I started some god damn discussion on a change of mindset that you had shown in the thread. It wasn't the be all and end all of cases.
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Scum hunting holyflare 2gd.
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On February 04 2014 10:59 marvellosity wrote: is DP Corazon's big brother?
Could it really be?!
*giggle*
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On February 04 2014 10:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:54 DarthPunk wrote: Holyflare literally said he would do this before the game on TS. then he posts stupid fucking nonsense about me. There is no point even playing if I have to deal with this bullshit from the start of the game onwards. Yes so that was why I did a joke shit meta case on you. You can literally tell that I've started playing the game when I said "trolling is over now". If you want to redeem yourself to the 3 people voting you. Explain this other game where you pulled this same strategy and what you hoped to achieve from artanis' responses?
I have literally given you an out of your rage cycle and you are still harping on about shooting me. Jesus christ.
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On February 04 2014 11:06 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote: I'm outlawing the phrase "mind meld" I'm outlawing the third guy getting to say he mindmelded. I hate that shit. Its like how I took credit for being the 'hammer' vote on Sand last invite game. I knew damn well Hapa voted before me but I wanted on because shennanies are fun. One minute is a tonne of time if you are paying attention and a post doesn't take long to write. Yo DP: cool yer jets bro. This shit is silly. Why wouldn't he push your buttons? MAfia is fun and one of the fun things is getting digs in at people.
I have no idea what you are saying.
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On February 04 2014 11:12 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:09 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 11:06 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote: I'm outlawing the phrase "mind meld" I'm outlawing the third guy getting to say he mindmelded. I hate that shit. Its like how I took credit for being the 'hammer' vote on Sand last invite game. I knew damn well Hapa voted before me but I wanted on because shennanies are fun. One minute is a tonne of time if you are paying attention and a post doesn't take long to write. Yo DP: cool yer jets bro. This shit is silly. Why wouldn't he push your buttons? MAfia is fun and one of the fun things is getting digs in at people. I have no idea what you are saying. calling mindmeld when you are the second (or in this case third) guy to post the same thing is horse poopy. A minute is more than enough time to post what a townie just posted and hop around screaming "mindmeld" to try to get in with the townies.
all those posts are within the same minute not even 1 minute difference
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Like prome, what are you doing now? I've already posted and it's been stated that Artanis' post is clearly alignment unindicative (the why's included) so why is your first real post to only ask that question to marv who has also been reading the thread. It's a useless rehash.
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On February 04 2014 11:23 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:19 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:15 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:12 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:09 Promethelax wrote: I kinda really want to lynch DP for martyring.
I hate people who vote themselves in IML.
Policy: all lynches occur on the third day of the day cycle. It's not the same in this setup because you get a vig shot bro. one bad shot and lylo. Totally the same, lynching scum>vigging them. Actually maybe not now that I write it down. Would prefer to lynch a townie who was on the margins of looking scummy and have them shoot a scum. It will confirm two alignments. Was thinking in the pre game if one player is kicking ass and taking names for town scum may actually choose to bus to be able to use their shot on said player. We should not be too confidant that those who push scum are town. There is valid reason for scum to bus even when neither scum is in danger. That is a fucking stupid plan if you are scum. Actually it's interesting and worth spending at least some thought on. Some time down the line you have player A and player B, both are suspicious and town is deciding between them. One mafia one townie. One is going to be lynched, the other will be vigged by the lynched player (seems a sensible play). Makes sense for the mafia in that situation to bus the mafia, so the mafia dies and doesn't flip, and the townie flips. Probably a better result for mafia than the townie not flipping and shooting the mafia who does flip. So it seems there's probably situations where bussing might be optimal for mafia It is actually a great plan for mafia. Even more than that the bussed mafia can shoot bigawesometownie1 and next day it is likely that town will lynch scummylookingtowniewhowasupforlynch since lynchedmafiaplayerX didn't shoot him. Does DP saying that a great plan for mafia is shitty make him scum? Yes/no?
That is why we come to a consensus and make the people we lynch shoot specific targets.
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On February 04 2014 11:34 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:33 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 11:32 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:29 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:28 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 11:23 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:19 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:15 Promethelax wrote: [quote]
one bad shot and lylo. Totally the same, lynching scum>vigging them. Actually maybe not now that I write it down. Would prefer to lynch a townie who was on the margins of looking scummy and have them shoot a scum. It will confirm two alignments.
Was thinking in the pre game if one player is kicking ass and taking names for town scum may actually choose to bus to be able to use their shot on said player. We should not be too confidant that those who push scum are town. There is valid reason for scum to bus even when neither scum is in danger. That is a fucking stupid plan if you are scum. Actually it's interesting and worth spending at least some thought on. Some time down the line you have player A and player B, both are suspicious and town is deciding between them. One mafia one townie. One is going to be lynched, the other will be vigged by the lynched player (seems a sensible play). Makes sense for the mafia in that situation to bus the mafia, so the mafia dies and doesn't flip, and the townie flips. Probably a better result for mafia than the townie not flipping and shooting the mafia who does flip. So it seems there's probably situations where bussing might be optimal for mafia It is actually a great plan for mafia. Even more than that the bussed mafia can shoot bigawesometownie1 and next day it is likely that town will lynch scummylookingtowniewhowasupforlynch since lynchedmafiaplayerX didn't shoot him. Does DP saying that a great plan for mafia is shitty make him scum? Yes/no? That is why we come to a consensus and make the people we lynch shoot specific targets. Can I assume for a minute that you are not dumb? Given your play in past games I think I can assume that. Why will mafia do what we tell them? If we all get together to lynch Cephero and he says he'll shoot artanis but really shoots marv how do we punish him for that? We don't. He is already dead. So why are you harping on this point. You haven't thought about this at all, have you? Play nice. That scenario removes the doubt from Cephiro's flip, which is a decently good thing. Given that we lynched him I'd say we're reasonably sure. I still think scum killing townie#1 and town knowing that dead guy=scum is > for scum than townie#4 being dead and town not knowing if dead=scum maybe that is just me though. wat !?! you never mislynch people? I've never mislynched cephero
Was that a joke post?
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On February 04 2014 12:00 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:49 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 10:45 iamperfection wrote: dp can get emotional as town.
answer my question dp its quite a simple one. Yes. There is a difference though. Getting emotional in the game when people aren't doing something or are town that aren't listening is when it mostly happens. Getting emotional at someone pushing "shit cases" and being "awful" shouldn't trigger those same emotions though, your first thought should be that they are scum pushing an agenda and then further investigate. Especially as DP has said "HF is a good town player that I listened to" (in Titanic). So if he thinks I am being shit in this game he should jump to the conclusion that I am being scum. Yet, this anger relates to someone that has a scum mindset of a towny pushing a case that doesn't "make sense to me even if I AM scum". Catching up, but....um...did you or did you not read my reactions to Toad's/Foolishness's terrible cases on me last game? Your conclusions are completely wrong imo.
Toad's case was legitimately beyond terrible. This case was totally unjustified rage on a case that wasn't awful. How can you equate the two things at all? The fact that 3 people jumped onto him because of that shows that other people agree why so have you taken the opposite point of view?
Please explain how my conclusions are wrong.
Now onto Prome.
Half of Prome's filter is talking about tactics that scum can do and what would be best for the town to do. Now, at the start of the game it isn't so bad, however, when he talks about it more and more even though he has "thought about it a lot before the game" his ideas do not add up. In fact, there are many contradictions in his thought processes.
For instance, over time Prome discusses how it is more beneficial to kill a fringe looking townie/scum to then shoot who we think is actual scum so we can determine the alignment from the flip. On February 04 2014 11:32 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:29 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:28 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 11:23 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:19 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:15 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:12 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:09 Promethelax wrote: I kinda really want to lynch DP for martyring.
I hate people who vote themselves in IML.
Policy: all lynches occur on the third day of the day cycle. It's not the same in this setup because you get a vig shot bro. one bad shot and lylo. Totally the same, lynching scum>vigging them. Actually maybe not now that I write it down. Would prefer to lynch a townie who was on the margins of looking scummy and have them shoot a scum. It will confirm two alignments. Was thinking in the pre game if one player is kicking ass and taking names for town scum may actually choose to bus to be able to use their shot on said player. We should not be too confidant that those who push scum are town. There is valid reason for scum to bus even when neither scum is in danger. That is a fucking stupid plan if you are scum. Actually it's interesting and worth spending at least some thought on. Some time down the line you have player A and player B, both are suspicious and town is deciding between them. One mafia one townie. One is going to be lynched, the other will be vigged by the lynched player (seems a sensible play). Makes sense for the mafia in that situation to bus the mafia, so the mafia dies and doesn't flip, and the townie flips. Probably a better result for mafia than the townie not flipping and shooting the mafia who does flip. So it seems there's probably situations where bussing might be optimal for mafia It is actually a great plan for mafia. Even more than that the bussed mafia can shoot bigawesometownie1 and next day it is likely that town will lynch scummylookingtowniewhowasupforlynch since lynchedmafiaplayerX didn't shoot him. Does DP saying that a great plan for mafia is shitty make him scum? Yes/no? That is why we come to a consensus and make the people we lynch shoot specific targets. Can I assume for a minute that you are not dumb? Given your play in past games I think I can assume that. Why will mafia do what we tell them? If we all get together to lynch Cephero and he says he'll shoot artanis but really shoots marv how do we punish him for that? We don't. He is already dead. So why are you harping on this point. You haven't thought about this at all, have you? Play nice. That scenario removes the doubt from Cephiro's flip, which is a decently good thing. Given that we lynched him I'd say we're reasonably sure. I still think scum killing townie#1 and town knowing that dead guy=scum is > for scum than townie#4 being dead and town not knowing if dead=scum maybe that is just me though.
However, he also states that he'd never mislynch Cephiro.
On February 04 2014 11:34 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:33 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 11:32 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:29 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:28 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 11:23 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:19 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:15 Promethelax wrote: [quote]
one bad shot and lylo. Totally the same, lynching scum>vigging them. Actually maybe not now that I write it down. Would prefer to lynch a townie who was on the margins of looking scummy and have them shoot a scum. It will confirm two alignments.
Was thinking in the pre game if one player is kicking ass and taking names for town scum may actually choose to bus to be able to use their shot on said player. We should not be too confidant that those who push scum are town. There is valid reason for scum to bus even when neither scum is in danger. That is a fucking stupid plan if you are scum. Actually it's interesting and worth spending at least some thought on. Some time down the line you have player A and player B, both are suspicious and town is deciding between them. One mafia one townie. One is going to be lynched, the other will be vigged by the lynched player (seems a sensible play). Makes sense for the mafia in that situation to bus the mafia, so the mafia dies and doesn't flip, and the townie flips. Probably a better result for mafia than the townie not flipping and shooting the mafia who does flip. So it seems there's probably situations where bussing might be optimal for mafia It is actually a great plan for mafia. Even more than that the bussed mafia can shoot bigawesometownie1 and next day it is likely that town will lynch scummylookingtowniewhowasupforlynch since lynchedmafiaplayerX didn't shoot him. Does DP saying that a great plan for mafia is shitty make him scum? Yes/no? That is why we come to a consensus and make the people we lynch shoot specific targets. Can I assume for a minute that you are not dumb? Given your play in past games I think I can assume that. Why will mafia do what we tell them? If we all get together to lynch Cephero and he says he'll shoot artanis but really shoots marv how do we punish him for that? We don't. He is already dead. So why are you harping on this point. You haven't thought about this at all, have you? Play nice. That scenario removes the doubt from Cephiro's flip, which is a decently good thing. Given that we lynched him I'd say we're reasonably sure. I still think scum killing townie#1 and town knowing that dead guy=scum is > for scum than townie#4 being dead and town not knowing if dead=scum maybe that is just me though. wat !?! you never mislynch people? I've never mislynched cephero This presumably implies that he can read Cephiro quite well, to the ability that he wouldn't mislynch him. Yet, his stance on Cephiro becomes increasingly more different than Artanis:
On February 04 2014 11:37 Promethelax wrote: yeah, I don't disagree. Your problem though is that scum will shoot said townies if/when we lynch them.
Right now I'd say marv/imp both looking townie to me.
Waiting to hear from Artanis as I don't have trouble reading him. Need some personal time with him to really 'get a feel' for things.
On February 04 2014 11:40 Promethelax wrote: I find myself kinda into the idea of lynching Cephiro (I finally figured out how to spell it) basically only he and Rayn have not been here for the opening remarks and I've found the general pace and movement of this opening to be townie and interested. I'd be willing to lynch those who are not here. Ergo Cephiro/rayn.
He doesn't mislynch Cephiro, yet here we have him increasingly leaning more and more towards lynching him without even talking to him OR rayn. Like, I understand that the pace feels towny right now but why Cephiro over Rayn? Like there is a legitimate super focus on lynching Cephiro over Artanis who claimed mafia with no thread activity further or rayn who hasn't typed at all either. He "thinks" there is a mafia between rayn and cephiro based on the thread but if that's the case then he WOULDN'T want to lynch Cephiro based on what he's said before, he would want to vote a fringe towny (probably me based on his next post), yet this conclusion is seemingly absent:
On February 04 2014 11:50 Promethelax wrote: While we sit around waiting for DP to sift through Art's filters shall we move this discussion away from Dp and towards HF? Yes, yes we shall.
Why did Holy just vanish, he was here excited to be playing but when things got hot he got out of the kitchen. He was here to claim a mindmeld and here to argue its validity but he hasn't provided anything new to the discussion. Is HF scum? Inside sources say yes.
His only reasoning? That I vanished. Lol.
On February 04 2014 12:31 Promethelax wrote: Sorry, that wasn't productive, mad at people who are not you.
two reasons 1: gut says people present are town for various reasons. I would bet good money that at least one of ceph/rayn are scum 2. it was a change of topic from the DP thinks Art is scum for something prome thinks is not alignment indicative. Amd I was/am bored with that topic. This is also an incoherent thought. If the people present are town then why is he mad at those people and displaying it in the thread? If there is a good chance of scum in cephiro/rayn then surely he should be happy that he's narrowed down the pool of potential scum to two?
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Wave is another person who I am concerned about being scum.
On February 04 2014 08:30 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:26 iamperfection wrote: Hrm wave are you being serious? Bout marv, no. Bout holy/artanis, yes. Gimme a while and ill find examples. It always seemed to me to be more likely to joke about being scum AS scum because it would be seen at endgame to be ballsy as hell even though nobody ever takes it to be alignment indicative.
Wave initially starts the game joking around, however, after I point out the point about scum claiming scum on Artanis he seems to begin to agree with me as evidenced above and below
On February 04 2014 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:18 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 08:14 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 04 2014 08:04 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 08:02 iamperfection wrote: Who else is town? That's a terrible question, we want to know who ISN'T town. I'm Mafia. How about you? always lynch the people that claim mafia, you've played enough voice to know that's at least 80% correct! ##vote artanis But if your saying he knows this why would he do it? because it's a scum default mindset! they think we know they always do it so they do it again to bluff but really, they're always scum! Artanis also claims jester exclusively as town. This sort of gives the same idea I'm trying to get across but not quite. Essentially it comes down to there being absolutely no reason to claim scum as town, even to joke---seems much more likely to me to come from a mafia standpoint to introduce WIFOM into the thread at best, shit things up a little at worst and somewhere in the middle they get to brag if they win. And before anyone asks again, yes I am completely serious. I'm gettin' them feels. This is super early and there hasn't been much in thread to give me other feels right now so it's what I'm going with atm. ##Unvote ##Vote: Artanis
So, now he is fully in agreement with what I have been saying as he is clearly quoting my reasoning as bolstering his "gut feels".
Yet, increasingly he discovers that his conclusion that scum does this all the time has 0 evidence in the entirety of TL that he remembers. You'd think this would totally remove his read on the player then?
On February 04 2014 12:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok caught up. I'm comfortable with my vote where it is despite the findings that Artanis specifically does this all the time as either alignment, on voice, at weddings and at barmitzvahs.
DP the salt overflowing from this thread has raised my blood pressure. I'd stick you with a solid townread but I worry simply because I figure you're smart enough to know that kind of reaction is what people expect from you. I also have a bunch of townreads already in this game and there's only room for so many (and I'm hesitant to dump scumreads simply on lurkers).
I want to talk to you but I think the current topics have been done to death a little.
What do you make of marv?
No. He doesn't care what alignment artanis actually his he's just sticking his vote on there. Now, in the shadow game part 1 wave was COMPLETELY different. Take this post for example that he outlines his thought processes (he was town in shadow): On January 21 2014 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 12:36 kitaman27 wrote:On January 21 2014 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On January 21 2014 12:16 kitaman27 wrote:...The reason to random vote sandroba is because he is incredibly lazy and notorious for getting away without posting on day one. Well... why wouldn't you post this before? Regardless, several players have mentioned that sandroba isn't going to respond to pressure anyway, so I don't see the point here. I wanted to see whether you thought that I was pushing sandroba based on his first post or not. Regardless of whether or not sandroba will react to having votes on him, I still think the best way to start off a game is to place votes early on 1-2 targets. If we're discussing players that have recently posted, I'm not really interested in joining you on VE. Would you be willing to support a Wave bandwagon? I find very few of his questions relevant thus far. I don't see what he is looking for. Wave, would you like to explain your approach to the first few hours of the game? I get a feel for reads through conversation. My questions to Hapa/Prome are to try and get a feel for them while creating conversation at the same time. When I'm curious about something or something strikes me odd, I mention it.I'm not sure why that isn't obvious to you. He makes reads from conversation, from interaction, from things that are odd. Now that there is 0 information that Artanis claims scum as scum or town his read should be null. He hasn't interacted with Artanis and he hasn't discussed much else in the game despite a lot of stuff happening between me and DP.
There are a lot of posts in his filter that says all the actions DP has been doing point to town actions - but he could be smart enough to do them as scum. Wishy-washy, non alignment indicative trash. Just like his artanis read. Not only that but after agreeing with my points on Artanis (who his vote is on and is staying on) he puts ME in his top 3 scummy people in the game (based on people that have posted).
On February 04 2014 13:16 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 13:12 Promethelax wrote: you missed the thread a bit there. Which makes me feel better given how many times I've already almost posted in their game from people that are talking. Marv, the person he made a giant wall of text on here
WoS: will you play along? You liked my thought that the posters so far felt townie. Which of the players who have posted feels the least townie? Artanis, HF, mebbe DP. I don't like giving iamp a townread because I feel he hasn't contributed much but I give him one anyway for 'feels+' reasons. You're probably somewhere above DP level right now, on towny side of null.
This is weird as DP who has done "towny" like things (but maybe scummy???) ranks more scummy than marv who he just made a massive post about here in which he says that he doesn't like a lot of marv's posting (but marv's post can come from both scum marv and town marv so in actuality his post was something that came to the conclusion of null - but he doesn't like them)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=441979¤tpage=17#329
This wave is not sitting right with me at all. His gameplay is completeellyyyyyy different to shadow mafia (here is his filter for shadow) and the majority of what he is posting ends up concluding that the players actions are null. His top 3 least towny looking people contain the person who he is voting based on no information, the person he said has been posting towny looking things (but could be scum because he's smart...?) and the person who he has been agreeing with (me) in regards to the person he is voting (artanis).
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For someone who has me as their top 3/4 list of scum (Promethelax) and I've been his pretty much only non-lurker scummy target he sure is interested in talking to/about me isn't he?
On February 05 2014 02:32 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2014 02:29 Promethelax wrote:On February 05 2014 02:10 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2014 02:09 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 19:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 04 2014 19:46 marvellosity wrote: How do I know? You just made some weird nitpicky thing about a post I made, and said Prome is mafia when he probably isn't. Very bleh. Yeah and you didn't even care to answer me. You said "mafia benefits from chaos and whatever shit", then you call DP out for it when it was clearly Holyflare who caused the thing in the first place. So yes, i want to know why it's only DP's "fault". And now you are being a bitch and doing the same thing here, and i have no fucking idea why. I cared to fall asleep though. Early game is early game. Like you I'm bored of DP going on about his bullshit with Artanis' entrance. I tried, halfheartedly, to change the direction of the conversation onto HF. This game has felt like one with an end day shennanie scum lynch. And the players who haven't done anything to strike me as townie are: HF/Rayn/Ceph/Art of those three I like Artanis most on a personal level and find him easiest to read (I have no idea how I would read Ceph as I've never played with him) so I'd rather like to lynch one of the other three guys. Bold and red don't really go together. Try again. I have not had the chance to read him yet so at this point I'd prefer not to lynch him. Probably better to read people before offering opinions on who you want to lynch, hmm darling? I read everything he posted and had found it not alignment indicative. Given that it was ~6 hours into d1 I figured I'd keep the guy I liked more and would wait for him to show up to have a chit chat with and see if I could read him. Not like I'm advocating a lynch of anyone RIGHT NOW. I'm advocating a lynch of one of these four dudes and placing pressure on the ones I know less well/have a harder time reading. I see no issue here, why do you?
You'd think if his original suspicion was on 2 lurkers (rayn/cephiro) and Artanis he can read with interaction. Then surely the only person he CAN talk about is me??? Yet, he just says half of my case on him was a joke (even though another half still stands but he discredits it wholly) and fails to talk about my other case. In fact he doesn't say ANYTHING about me for the entirety of the game yet I am still in his list. Just because "I've done this with Gonzaw".
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Rayn, the quote about DP at the top of my Prome case had nothing to do with my case on DP, it was to do with wave's response to it which should have been quite obvious as the question was directed at wave.
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On February 05 2014 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote: Rayn, the quote about DP at the top of my Prome case had nothing to do with my case on DP, it was to do with wave's response to it which should have been quite obvious as the question was directed at wave. I think it's pretty clear what you are saying in that paragraph but, just to clarify: Do you think DP is mafia or not?
I'll have to re-read him thoroughly but from what I got on my run through and what I was thinking after things cooled down, probably not.
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On February 05 2014 03:12 Promethelax wrote: Okay, HF is scum because the only thing which makes him town is his rage inducing interactions with DP which is something he has very recently proved he is able to do.
There are things which make 5 players town. PoE three of the other four are scum.
There is nothing that makes wave town and I am confused why you have placed him in the "town" pile. Regardless of his meta or not he kept his vote on artanis without discussing with him and he didn't care what Artanis' claim meant in terms of alignment, he was quite happy to waste his vote on someone he knew nothing about. He can argue it's "pressure" or whatever but he has done nothing to interact with that vote since.
The only thing he has done since Artanis started talking is to say
On February 04 2014 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm reading and posting when I can until later Speaking of pointless cases can anyone explain iamps suspicions on me? Marv you have a super towny townread on him right? Maybe you can elaborate.
I don't like HF's case but at the very least I can sort of understand what he's getting at because my D1 this game IS different from last game, but as I said if he cared to look, its not so different from other more aggressive games of mine, ie NWM or LXII. What bothers me a little is Rayn bringing up the meta defense because I'm not sure it applies in this case. Ill delcve into it when I get a chance later today.
Artanis, keep talking.
No more interaction, no more talking. You'd think you'd want to determine the alignment of someone you are voting since he is so adament at keeping his vote on him. Coupled with the fact that he has lumped me in with his scum reads even though he agreed with the majority of what I said about Artanis. Wave's play just doesn't make sense as someone trying to learn about other people's roles.
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On February 05 2014 03:12 Promethelax wrote: Okay, HF is scum because the only thing which makes him town is his rage inducing interactions with DP which is something he has very recently proved he is able to do.
There are things which make 5 players town. PoE three of the other four are scum.
This is also why I think prome is actually scum. He keeps harping on with rhetoric about "the heart of the thread is towny guys!" and "I love you allllllllllll let's lynch dem lurkers scummers!!!!!" yet, he isn't actively determining whether his town reads are correct. He has lumped 5 players into one category and perpetuates more about Cephiro (even if his posts are awful) rather than trying to interact with other people and see if he needs to second guess himself.
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On February 05 2014 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 03:20 Holyflare wrote:On February 05 2014 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 05 2014 03:07 Holyflare wrote: Rayn, the quote about DP at the top of my Prome case had nothing to do with my case on DP, it was to do with wave's response to it which should have been quite obvious as the question was directed at wave. I think it's pretty clear what you are saying in that paragraph but, just to clarify: Do you think DP is mafia or not? I'll have to re-read him thoroughly but from what I got on my run through and what I was thinking after things cooled down, probably not. umm.. Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 12:00 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 10:49 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 10:45 iamperfection wrote: dp can get emotional as town.
answer my question dp its quite a simple one. Yes. There is a difference though. Getting emotional in the game when people aren't doing something or are town that aren't listening is when it mostly happens. Getting emotional at someone pushing "shit cases" and being "awful" shouldn't trigger those same emotions though, your first thought should be that they are scum pushing an agenda and then further investigate. Especially as DP has said "HF is a good town player that I listened to" (in Titanic). So if he thinks I am being shit in this game he should jump to the conclusion that I am being scum. Yet, this anger relates to someone that has a scum mindset of a towny pushing a case that doesn't "make sense to me even if I AM scum". Catching up, but....um...did you or did you not read my reactions to Toad's/Foolishness's terrible cases on me last game? Your conclusions are completely wrong imo. Toad's case was legitimately beyond terrible. This case was totally unjustified rage on a case that wasn't awful. How can you equate the two things at all? The fact that 3 people jumped onto him because of that shows that other people agree why so have you taken the opposite point of view? Please explain how my conclusions are wrong. Okay then what do you mean by the bolded part? What i read is you tell your case on DP is good and ask Wave why does he not agree with it, no?
I think what I said "made sense" in a way because that is what a normal reaction is (DP isn't normal PPP). It's less about my stance on DP and more about why Wave has taken the totally OPPOSITE point of view (in comparison to 3 people that shared the view) and compared it to a case that I thought had very little relevance. I used that post as a way to get to the bottom of what wave is thinking in this game as I know he likes to conspiracy theorise and come up with whacky situations based on nothing and I wanted to know if that was the case here.
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On February 05 2014 03:28 LSB wrote: Hi guas
have you actually replaced...?
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On February 05 2014 03:33 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On February 05 2014 03:28 LSB wrote: Hi guas have you actually replaced...? What the fuck question is this? The mod said so.
Well let's see the realm of possibilities oh royal ass hat.
1) I missed it 2) ......?
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