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On February 07 2014 11:50 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:49 Holyflare wrote:On February 07 2014 11:48 Aquanim wrote: Like, in all seriousness, why would any townie kill themselves when there is only one scum left... you can just lynch the scum... if someone hammered him without discussion after saying not to put a vote down, they are scum Yeah OK that is a fair point. What I don't understand is why you lynched yourself...
because i lost all motivation to play because the game got really shitty for me and i wanted to shoot someone and get to the end game with lsb there
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On February 07 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. Why can't mafia self-vote in LYLO? You get hammered and lose instantly?
Unless you get really ballsy.
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On February 07 2014 11:50 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:48 DarthPunk wrote:On February 07 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote: you woulda won if you didn't hammer him??? Nope. Him self voting along with the rayn thing would have made him super confirmed town. At that point all town needs to do is to not kill LSB. Ceph would have understood that and shot me if he got lynched and If I got lynched I would have died. I took a 50/50 shot hoping that LSB would follow marv and promes reads of me being like totes town. Scum can't self vote at lylo and win whilst town can so self voting was a really good play. DarthPunk either was incredibly stupid since he didn't think I was confirmed town. Or he was mafia.
I couldn't think you were confirmed town or I would lose. Town wins with ONE confirmed townie lol.
Anyway I think scum played well. This seemed like an incredibly difficult setup for scum but maybe I am biased.
If artanis had actually played maybe we would have been in a better spot, but overall I think it was a close game.
GG alll !
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On February 07 2014 11:52 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. Why can't mafia self-vote in LYLO? You get hammered and lose instantly? Unless you get really ballsy.
LYLO is for ballsy play, no?
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On February 07 2014 11:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:50 LSB wrote:On February 07 2014 11:48 DarthPunk wrote:On February 07 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote: you woulda won if you didn't hammer him??? Nope. Him self voting along with the rayn thing would have made him super confirmed town. At that point all town needs to do is to not kill LSB. Ceph would have understood that and shot me if he got lynched and If I got lynched I would have died. I took a 50/50 shot hoping that LSB would follow marv and promes reads of me being like totes town. Scum can't self vote at lylo and win whilst town can so self voting was a really good play. DarthPunk either was incredibly stupid since he didn't think I was confirmed town. Or he was mafia. I couldn't think you were confirmed town or I would lose. Town wins with ONE confirmed townie lol. Anyway I think scum played well. This seemed like an incredibly difficult setup for scum but maybe I am biased. If artanis had actually played maybe we would have been in a better spot, but overall I think it was a close game. GG alll ! Game was incredible hard for mafia. Although to be fair two of the mafia were outed within 12 hours of the game start pretty much.
And yes, it only took one confirmed townie in the end. Definitely playing mafia very hard.
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On February 07 2014 11:54 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:52 LSB wrote:On February 07 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. Why can't mafia self-vote in LYLO? You get hammered and lose instantly? Unless you get really ballsy. LYLO is for ballsy play, no?
Setup super town imba IMO.
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On February 07 2014 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:54 Hapahauli wrote:On February 07 2014 11:52 LSB wrote:On February 07 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. Why can't mafia self-vote in LYLO? You get hammered and lose instantly? Unless you get really ballsy. LYLO is for ballsy play, no? Setup super town imba IMO.
Town imba yes. Super town imba? No. That was a product of Rayn and Artanis getting outed too quickly.
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On February 07 2014 11:56 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:On February 07 2014 11:54 Hapahauli wrote:On February 07 2014 11:52 LSB wrote:On February 07 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. Why can't mafia self-vote in LYLO? You get hammered and lose instantly? Unless you get really ballsy. LYLO is for ballsy play, no? Setup super town imba IMO. Town imba yes. Super town imba? No. That was a product of Rayn and Artanis getting outed too quickly.
You only need one confirmed town to win. Scum get no way to deal with good town players without suiciding. Win con is harder than normal, Scum have no initiative to make plays and totally rely on town misplaying in IML which by it's nature rarely happens with infinite time.
We mis-lynched 4 straight times and still lost because LSB could
a.) self vote when scum could not
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b.) Was confirmed town and you only need one alive to guarantee a victory.
Maybe i'm biased, But i don't think I am and I certanily won't play this setup again.
Thanks for hosting though. :D
Scum qt:http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/8EDMN7jGwWtT
Apologies in advance to marv and prome for all the venting at your expense.
Also, prome was scum MVP cause we literally had to rely on prome shooting Artanis over Rayn or town would have won instantly cause marv would be confirmed and then all town needed to do was lynch town reads and shoot scum reads.
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"we mislynched 4 straight times" is misleading when the first two lynches were to guarantee mafia flips.
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On February 07 2014 12:03 marvellosity wrote: "we mislynched 4 straight times" is misleading when the first two lynches were to guarantee mafia flips.
Still imba
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I mean it's basically the direct equivalent of "town lynched mafia day 1 and day 2 and mafia got their revenge shots"
suddenly seems like town is raping if you put it like that, which is actually correct ;p
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On February 07 2014 12:06 marvellosity wrote: I mean it's basically the direct equivalent of "town lynched mafia day 1 and day 2 and mafia got their revenge shots"
suddenly seems like town is raping if you put it like that, which is actually correct ;p
I mean we sacked rayn to get a shot on you. So you didn't really catch him and artanis didn't play.
Anyway. I am happy with the 50/50 outcome cause this game was hard as scum.
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I caught rayn off his first post.
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I mean I literally could not have caught rayn any harder.
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On February 07 2014 12:02 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:56 Hapahauli wrote:On February 07 2014 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:On February 07 2014 11:54 Hapahauli wrote:On February 07 2014 11:52 LSB wrote:On February 07 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. Why can't mafia self-vote in LYLO? You get hammered and lose instantly? Unless you get really ballsy. LYLO is for ballsy play, no? Setup super town imba IMO. Town imba yes. Super town imba? No. That was a product of Rayn and Artanis getting outed too quickly. You only need one confirmed town to win. Scum get no way to deal with good town players without suiciding. Win con is harder than normal, Scum have no initiative to make plays and totally rely on town misplaying in IML which by it's nature rarely happens with infinite time. We mis-lynched 4 straight times and still lost because LSB could a.) self vote when scum could not and b.) Was confirmed town and you only need one alive to guarantee a victory. Maybe i'm biased, But i don't think I am and I certanily won't play this setup again. Thanks for hosting though. :D Scum qt: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/8EDMN7jGwWtTApologies in advance to marv and prome for all the venting at your expense. Also, prome was scum MVP cause we literally had to rely on prome shooting Artanis over Rayn or town would have won instantly cause marv would be confirmed and then all town needed to do was lynch town reads and shoot scum reads. The objective is NOT mislynching necessarily, it is to look townie enough to not get shot when a townie is lynched. None of you did that well at all.
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I think this would be cooler if when nobody survives, mafia wins. That would make LYLO situation cool, because self-voting as mafia would actually be legit. Otherwise LYLO is way too easy as town.
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In any game where 2/3 of the mafia team are outed on day 1, mafia are gonna have a hard time, regardless of setup.
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On February 07 2014 12:13 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 12:02 DarthPunk wrote:On February 07 2014 11:56 Hapahauli wrote:On February 07 2014 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:On February 07 2014 11:54 Hapahauli wrote:On February 07 2014 11:52 LSB wrote:On February 07 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. Why can't mafia self-vote in LYLO? You get hammered and lose instantly? Unless you get really ballsy. LYLO is for ballsy play, no? Setup super town imba IMO. Town imba yes. Super town imba? No. That was a product of Rayn and Artanis getting outed too quickly. You only need one confirmed town to win. Scum get no way to deal with good town players without suiciding. Win con is harder than normal, Scum have no initiative to make plays and totally rely on town misplaying in IML which by it's nature rarely happens with infinite time. We mis-lynched 4 straight times and still lost because LSB could a.) self vote when scum could not and b.) Was confirmed town and you only need one alive to guarantee a victory. Maybe i'm biased, But i don't think I am and I certanily won't play this setup again. Thanks for hosting though. :D Scum qt: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/8EDMN7jGwWtTApologies in advance to marv and prome for all the venting at your expense. Also, prome was scum MVP cause we literally had to rely on prome shooting Artanis over Rayn or town would have won instantly cause marv would be confirmed and then all town needed to do was lynch town reads and shoot scum reads. The objective is NOT mislynching necessarily, it is to look townie enough to not get shot when a townie is lynched. None of you did that well at all.
I was a universal town read Yamato. and if you look too townie town will lynch you to shoot your scum reads (marv, Prome) That is the best way to play.
But you can't be lynched as scum, so you can't do the thing town will do and if you look scummy you get shot. Hue.
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Anyway, this game was horrible. Everyone had a shit attitude. Scum were talking about conceding during D1. You don't get to complain about balance when you're not even trying.
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