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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 01:07 GMT
#719
Just in case what? Mafia come in and claim scum with bad votes in IML? Why would you want to prevent that?
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 01:08 GMT
#720
Reminder to any and all townies that get lynched: DON'T BE A HERO!
marv's post just made me think of that. No idea why.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 01:30 GMT
#725
On February 04 2014 20:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway. As I said I'm not posting again until someone besides marv is here.


Whatever happened to DP?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 01:35 GMT
#727
Where I live 'chirp' means to insult someone. Essentially 'to talk shit' and a chirpy person is someone who talks a lot of shit about other people.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 01:35 GMT
#729
On February 05 2014 10:35 LSB wrote:
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On February 05 2014 10:12 marvellosity wrote:
We don't yolo until 48 hours are up, give or take. Everyone should have more time.

There are day limits? I don't think there is any in the OP

And no I don't want a 100 hour day 1


72 hours is the day limit.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 01:36 GMT
#731
Wait, where the fuck did I read that? It isn't in the OP.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 01:39 GMT
#734
As long as I'm not crazy. Okay cool, I thought we had deadline. Ha, that means we get to be dicks and make days last forever.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 01:43 GMT
#737
~48-72 hours is best but no reason to limit ourselves if there is productive discussion occurring. If things slow down I'll agree with you. But for the moment I'm happy to have this day continue at least another 24 hours and preferably longer. It also means we can have a player like Ceph say they need more time and we can allow them to name their time. I suggest we do just that, next time Ceph is in thread we get a commitment on a time where he can play for at least one hour and we can make sure the lynch does not occur before that time.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 04:21 GMT
#743
Im around for a bit but after last game I'm pretty bored of talking to people I read as townie who think I'm scum for bad reasons.

In short the reasons for people being town:
Marv: meta. His tone and interest are in direct contrast to his play as scum ever. I can't show it to you because it is present in every post. Either you believe that I know how to read Marv based on his tone or you don't. However, I can and because I value my reputation on this site I would never commit to a read this heavily unless I was sure. I am very sure.

Wave: had some posts which read townie to me early on. I'm on a tablet so I can't quote. My memory suggest these had to do with his determination to watch Marv and his insistence of it in thread. Other people saw these as scummy but I liked them, they made sense from a townie who had misgivings about scum Marv in his past game but hadn't done anything to get him lynched.

Iamperfection: seemed really townie. He niggled in ways I liked during early game. I'm sad he replaced out since he was making sense and generally read as town.
Lsb: has clearly thought about the set up from a town perspective. This gels with both my past experience with town lsb (PYPLOL) and my read of imp as town.

DP: all the rage, it seems like genuine towniedp rage. DP plays a smart game of scum and screaming and kicking is a good way to get shot while at the same time ruining his chances of being listened to as a thread leader. Also I disagree with most/all of what he is saying which, counter-intuitively, makes him seem townie to me. In the past scum DP has tried to fit into thread and say similar things to townies and since he is not doing that I think he is town.

I have reasons DP. I just never bothered to write them out. There they are. I'm not going to repeat myself, I don't think there is a lot of value in answering you in a case on me. If you lynch me I'll happily shoot Artanis. I don't really care since I'm clearly town and you might listen to my reads after I shoot scum.

I believe I've adequately explained my scum reads. If you disagree feel free to ask.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 14:36 GMT
#937
Okay this DP/HF/Rayn circle jerk is awful and boring.

##Unvote
## Vote: Promethelax


lynch me. I'll shoot scum and that will reveal both my own alignment and a scum alignment. With me and Artanis out of the thread DP/Rayn?HF and to a lesser extent Wave can stop hugging each others' dicks and being dumb. They will be forced to use actual thoughts to find scum instead of calling me scum when my play has been clearly townie.
It is better to lynch town and shoot scum than the other way around since getting the scum flip is more important and that way we get to choose scum's night kill for them. It is better to lynch a boderline town who understands this and will follow the plan. Now I'm not borderline but some idiots refuse to see that so I'm happy to be killed.

Special bonus: I don't have to listen to Rayn or DP ever again.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 14:41 GMT
#939
Nope. I just really hate listening to you talk.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 14:44 GMT
#941
Because you are not only bad but also self congratulatory. It gets really old really fast, you have been spouting bullshit this whole game and DP, WoS and HF are right in the thick of it with you. Since Art is scum at least two of the four in that group are town and that makes those two people incredibly bad. I have no desire to keep listening to people be both incredibly bad and full of themselves at the same time.

Lynch me so I can shoot scum and stop reading this game.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 14:46 GMT
#944
On February 05 2014 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really hate this game because people who used to be reasonable decided to be massive dicks.

Yes. Now you get it.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 14:51 GMT
#947
look at say, the last 10 pages of this thread. You and Rayn have been the worst offenders while HF piggy backs on and 'me too's Wave has been almost reasonable, it isn't really fair of me to lump him in with you guys.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 14:54 GMT
#951
On February 05 2014 16:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Im around for a bit but after last game I'm pretty bored of talking to people I read as townie who think I'm scum for bad reasons.

In short the reasons for people being town:
Marv: meta. His tone and interest are in direct contrast to his play as scum ever. I can't show it to you because it is present in every post. Either you believe that I know how to read Marv based on his tone or you don't. However, I can and because I value my reputation on this site I would never commit to a read this heavily unless I was sure. I am very sure.


Cool. some bullshit about tone, actually zero reasons for his read And somehow he can't show me because it is present in every post of this this game. If it is meta show me the meta. Show me things he is doing this game that he doesn;t do in other games. Explain it. OH wait, you can't because you pulled the read from nothing an nowhere.

And that stuff about your rep or whatever is meaningless. If you are scum like I think you are you would say 'of course I knew better I was just scum'

Right. Absolutely no good reason to call marv town. Appeals to his 'rep' but can't provide one single concrete reason. Basically spending a lot of time saying nothing.

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On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Wave: had some posts which read townie to me early on. I'm on a tablet so I can't quote. My memory suggest these had to do with his determination to watch Marv and his insistence of it in thread. Other people saw these as scummy but I liked them, they made sense from a townie who had misgivings about scum Marv in his past game but hadn't done anything to get him lynched.


That was literally not a reason to call wave town at all. You were right people thought they were scummy because it was. And that is the only reason you give for a 'solid' townread.

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On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Iamperfection: seemed really townie. He niggled in ways I liked during early game. I'm sad he replaced out since he was making sense and generally read as town.
Lsb: has clearly thought about the set up from a town perspective. This gels with both my past experience with town lsb (PYPLOL) and my read of imp as town.


Oh look this person is town because he seemed town. You keep coming back to that as justification but it is meaningless. What does 'he niggled in ways I liked' mean? can you provide examples of those niggles and explain why it makes him town. Using vague fucking terms to give town reads is not something town do. Town KNOW why they think people are town, ESPECIALLY if people are so confident that they are eliminating them from the mafia pool.
Literally the setup speculation of LSB was not alignment indicative but at least you gave an actual reason on him.


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On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
DP: all the rage, it seems like genuine towniedp rage. DP plays a smart game of scum and screaming and kicking is a good way to get shot while at the same time ruining his chances of being listened to as a thread leader. Also I disagree with most/all of what he is saying which, counter-intuitively, makes him seem townie to me. In the past scum DP has tried to fit into thread and say similar things to townies and since he is not doing that I think he is town.

At least you give a reason for me even if it is just the same reason everyone else has given.



On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
I have reasons DP. I just never bothered to write them out. There they are. I'm not going to repeat myself, I don't think there is a lot of value in answering you in a case on me. If you lynch me I'll happily shoot Artanis. I don't really care since I'm clearly town and you might listen to my reads after I shoot scum.

I believe I've adequately explained my scum reads. If you disagree feel free to ask.


you actual don't have reasons you just spent 4 paragraphs basically saying these people are town because they 'feel' town and they have 'niggled' you as town and 'META that is in every post but I can't point it out to you' and 'tone' and blah blah blah.

Basically giving out town reads like this is really scummy. Town reads are easy to give out as scum because you don;t have to fake as much, it is easy calling townies town because you KNOW they are town. The problem is when you have been asked several times WHY and you still can't answer straightforwardly.

My top scum read shooting my second scum read sounds fantastic to me

##vote: Promethelax[/QUOTE]

All of my reads are valid and based on valid things, whether or not they are right we'll see in post game. However you took everything I wrote and shat on it. I haven't over justified my town reads, true, I haven't cared to. I only did so because you asked and while I believe you to be townie I want to work with you, instead of working with me in any way you shat on every single one of my reads and said they were invalid and made me scum. Since I happen to know I'm town and my reads are valid I'd call this post both bad and self congratulatory.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 14:58 GMT
#953
Sometimes marv is right. It happens. I find I often see games in a similar way that he does and, for whatever reason, the players he feels generally comfortable reading are also the players I feel comfortable reading. Now Rayn is clearly on that list for marv while he isn't for me; hence why I have preferred lynch candidates who are not Rayn while marv prefers to lynch Rayn.

It is much better for town to lynch me than marv. Marv is clearly town and is a better player than me. I also don't think Rayn is as good a shot as Artanis. Therefore it is better to lynch me and let me shoot Artanis.

We should be lynching a townie every day. That is better play than lynching a scum. If we lynch a townie that townie gets to shoot into the scummy players list which we have drawn up as a town thus eliminating tow suspects, themselves and the other player. If we lynch a scum he can shoot whomever he feels is most dangerous to scum. I am happy to be the townie lynched because 1) I will shoot scum and 2) you guys are not fun to play with
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 15:05 GMT
#958
On February 05 2014 23:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 23:51 Promethelax wrote:
look at say, the last 10 pages of this thread. You and Rayn have been the worst offenders while HF piggy backs on and 'me too's Wave has been almost reasonable, it isn't really fair of me to lump him in with you guys.


We called you and marv mafia, Prome. Because we said that we are: Bad, spewing bullshit and being self congratulatory?

That is so bullshit. We are trying to play the game. Calling someone scum does not mean we are being bad, spewing bullshit or being self congratulatory. The reason you didn't link anything was because there WAS nothing to link.

I don't even know what this is. It's fucking weird and it makes me sad.


Bad because you called me mafia. Self congratulatory because you keep saying I am mafia and patting yourself on the back about it. Bad because you keep calling HF and Rayn super townie when neither is anything close to that. Bad because you are intentionally creating a toxic thread environment and at the same time bitching about it and I still cannot call you scum for that because I truly believe you'd do this as town. The fact that it makes you sad is at least relieving, it means I'm right and you are town.

Rayn has no interest in engaging in conversation with me which means he is probably scum but I don't know how to read him so I'll leave it as simply likely. The way he plays has always bothered me and this game is no exception besides that he seems to have put his brain on hold to be an ass. Usually he can think while being an ass but that has not occurred here; I guess him being scum would explain that.

HF can't even come up with original thoughts he just +1s the vitriol that you and rayn spew together.

Yes, marv is also being a dickmiester, and yes that is unpleasent but like you I expect it from him when he is town. This sort of thing where he thinks he is better than everyone else and is a dick about people not listening to him is something he (and you) do as town. The difference is that marv has regularly proved that he is better than everyone else so I find his behaviour more excusable than yours.

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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 15:07 GMT
#959
On February 06 2014 00:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 23:58 Promethelax wrote:
Sometimes marv is right. It happens. I find I often see games in a similar way that he does and, for whatever reason, the players he feels generally comfortable reading are also the players I feel comfortable reading. Now Rayn is clearly on that list for marv while he isn't for me; hence why I have preferred lynch candidates who are not Rayn while marv prefers to lynch Rayn.

It is much better for town to lynch me than marv. Marv is clearly town and is a better player than me. I also don't think Rayn is as good a shot as Artanis. Therefore it is better to lynch me and let me shoot Artanis.

We should be lynching a townie every day. That is better play than lynching a scum. If we lynch a townie that townie gets to shoot into the scummy players list which we have drawn up as a town thus eliminating tow suspects, themselves and the other player. If we lynch a scum he can shoot whomever he feels is most dangerous to scum. I am happy to be the townie lynched because 1) I will shoot scum and 2) you guys are not fun to play with


Marv is not clearly town. The fact that you sheep marv has nothing to do with what is happening in the game right now and lynching a townie every day is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.




No it isn't. Lynching a townie is BETTER than lynching scum IFF that townie shoots scum. It reveals two alignments and restricts scum from ever directing a shot. Take your head out of your ass for two minutes and think.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 15:19 GMT
#965
I have said a lot more that is useful than you have, I've given reads on every player in the game and they continue to evolve as I play. I have questioned players and discerned alignments; I'm also the only person thinking clearly about the set-up while you run around like a chicken with its head cut off skwawing about how wrong I am.

Rayn is not talking to me right now, he asked a single question and decided I was totes scum and votes me. He is totally full of shit and the fact you cannot see that is saddening.

Final reads:
town: marv, DP
probably town LSB, Wave
might be town, might be scum; I think he is town but its a gut feeling and I have no real idea: ceph
Likely scum: HF
scum: Rayn Artanis
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 05 2014 15:20 GMT
#967
On February 06 2014 00:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 00:07 Promethelax wrote:
On February 06 2014 00:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 05 2014 23:58 Promethelax wrote:
Sometimes marv is right. It happens. I find I often see games in a similar way that he does and, for whatever reason, the players he feels generally comfortable reading are also the players I feel comfortable reading. Now Rayn is clearly on that list for marv while he isn't for me; hence why I have preferred lynch candidates who are not Rayn while marv prefers to lynch Rayn.

It is much better for town to lynch me than marv. Marv is clearly town and is a better player than me. I also don't think Rayn is as good a shot as Artanis. Therefore it is better to lynch me and let me shoot Artanis.

We should be lynching a townie every day. That is better play than lynching a scum. If we lynch a townie that townie gets to shoot into the scummy players list which we have drawn up as a town thus eliminating tow suspects, themselves and the other player. If we lynch a scum he can shoot whomever he feels is most dangerous to scum. I am happy to be the townie lynched because 1) I will shoot scum and 2) you guys are not fun to play with


Marv is not clearly town. The fact that you sheep marv has nothing to do with what is happening in the game right now and lynching a townie every day is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.




No it isn't. Lynching a townie is BETTER than lynching scum IFF that townie shoots scum. It reveals two alignments and restricts scum from ever directing a shot. Take your head out of your ass for two minutes and think.


And half of the players in the game are not going to shoot who town says. Read cephiro's conversation about it with marv and then decide if it is a good idea.


I am a townie who will shoot scum. Therefore lynch me.
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