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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 09:44 GMT
#821
Why this:
Artanis is a ?-Factor.

???
table for two on a tv tray
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
February 05 2014 09:49 GMT
#822
I have my reasons to doubt both of you. I have read the thread completely. The possibilities of buses or the lack of them are fairly irrelevant. If you read my post, you'd know I am not calling either of you scum nor am I saying you two to be in a team. Regardless, every option is possible.

What ticks off me in your play the most is the intentional annoying of DP to an unnecessary extent which was hardly for a pro-town atmosphere. This also applies to marv, but he's played 80% of the game like an egoistic dick. The remaining 20% are fairly redeeming though, and this game is not about finding or being the nicest players, as much fun as that would be.

Prome on the other hand displayed weird qualities several times, especially in the earlygame. It was as if he really didn't care THAT much about whom would get lynched. He clearly proposed several targets even when saying he doesn't want to rush it. Contradictory. His latest posts have been more contributing though, imo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 09:51 GMT
#823
Anyone played with cephiro on forum before? Does he do this "my plan is complete" only to then reveal... Nothing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 09:52 GMT
#824
Zzzzzz i trolled dp for one post. You REALLY haven't read the thread.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
February 05 2014 09:53 GMT
#825
On February 05 2014 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 18:33 Cephiro wrote:
2) I want to see how certain players continue without me taking an action against them.

Cephiro the thing here is pretty much all other people have reads on each other. We are trying to figure out your alignment because you havn't done shit. Continuing to not do shit is not really a townie way to proceed..


I understand that. But for now I have nothing to offer that will provide us a likely scumlynch, so I refrain from being overly confident on an unsure read and possibly derailing the discussion into tunneling a townie.

Things don't always need to be messed with. That's why I'm around now to reply questions. My current playstyle certainly may not be the way all of you would play, and certainly isn't the best townie play either. But I'm town, I'm here, and I'm playing as I find fit for the current situation. You'll just have to deal with it and make of that what you can.

Obviously I have nothing against contributing, but for now the way I prefer to do that is by answering questions, since I feel that'll be more useful.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 05 2014 09:53 GMT
#826
On February 05 2014 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
Zzzzzz i trolled dp for one post. You REALLY haven't read the thread.


I disagree completely with that statement. but let's not bring it up again.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
February 05 2014 09:54 GMT
#827
On February 05 2014 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why this:
Show nested quote +
Artanis is a ?-Factor.

???


Because on what he has posted so far I have absolutely no idea of what his alignment could be. Whereas Wave and LSB both have points both for and against them in a balanced amount, which is why I'm not tipping the way or the other about them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 09:55 GMT
#828
Like how can you say me and marv did the same thing but then marv is most towny with dp and rayn. While I'm the least towny? 1 of my posts trolled dp and i have 6 pages of filter looool
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
February 05 2014 09:56 GMT
#829
On February 05 2014 18:51 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone played with cephiro on forum before? Does he do this "my plan is complete" only to then reveal... Nothing?


Well I do have a tendency of making up all kinds of plans, mostly overly complicated and counting on a small, very unlikely possibility to pull off a huge play. Usually hasn't ended up that well, but practice makes better...

You've played with me in several games though, so I'm curious why you are asking about others? You've been around long enough to know.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 09:58 GMT
#830
On February 05 2014 18:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
Zzzzzz i trolled dp for one post. You REALLY haven't read the thread.


I disagree completely with that statement. but let's not bring it up again.


No but seriously i trolled you for one post. As soon as i said no more trolling i meant it. If i misconstrued something and it seemed like more trolling then i must have misread something in your posts.

Either way, what i just said about cephiro still stands.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
February 05 2014 09:58 GMT
#831
On February 05 2014 18:55 Holyflare wrote:
Like how can you say me and marv did the same thing but then marv is most towny with dp and rayn. While I'm the least towny? 1 of my posts trolled dp and i have 6 pages of filter looool


I don't care if you have 0.6, 6, 16, or 60 pages of filter. It's not alignment indicative. There are reasons why I consider your play more likely to be pro-scum than pro-town. As I explained earlier, even though I dislike marv's play in general he has enough good points to back him up as likely town.

He could still be scum, I'm open up to all possibilities for now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 09:59 GMT
#832
On February 05 2014 18:56 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 18:51 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone played with cephiro on forum before? Does he do this "my plan is complete" only to then reveal... Nothing?


Well I do have a tendency of making up all kinds of plans, mostly overly complicated and counting on a small, very unlikely possibility to pull off a huge play. Usually hasn't ended up that well, but practice makes better...

You've played with me in several games though, so I'm curious why you are asking about others? You've been around long enough to know.


I haven't played a forum game with you have i....?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 10:03 GMT
#833
On February 05 2014 18:51 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone played with cephiro on forum before? Does he do this "my plan is complete" only to then reveal... Nothing?

Yes i have. Cephiro has a quite interesting playstyle that revolves around making plans that usually (to me at least) make no sense (rofl ^^). Look at Hogwarts (how do you not remember this, you played in that game?), Aperture 2 and SMB mini mafia.

The way of reading Cephiro is to make a judgement call on if his plans make sense from him to do as town or not. Not if they make sense or not in general (trust me, in the first 2 games i wanted to lynch him for his plans because i thought they were dumb).

I've seen Cephiro play mafia in LXII but that's not really a good place to look at because he basically posted more in mafia QT than in the thread and just lurked all game and promised to du stuff he never did later on. I do not remember anything about the Witchcraft game because i do not really pay attention to what townies say when i am mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 10:04 GMT
#834
On February 05 2014 18:58 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 18:55 Holyflare wrote:
Like how can you say me and marv did the same thing but then marv is most towny with dp and rayn. While I'm the least towny? 1 of my posts trolled dp and i have 6 pages of filter looool


I don't care if you have 0.6, 6, 16, or 60 pages of filter. It's not alignment indicative. There are reasons why I consider your play more likely to be pro-scum than pro-town. As I explained earlier, even though I dislike marv's play in general he has enough good points to back him up as likely town.

He could still be scum, I'm open up to all possibilities for now.


You're literally not grasping my point. The only point you raise about my play is 1 post out of 120. You acknowledge your play has been shit if you are town so you need to prove to us you ARE town by elaborating on your reads. You shouldn't have to be asked.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 10:04 GMT
#835
On February 05 2014 18:58 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 18:55 Holyflare wrote:
Like how can you say me and marv did the same thing but then marv is most towny with dp and rayn. While I'm the least towny? 1 of my posts trolled dp and i have 6 pages of filter looool


I don't care if you have 0.6, 6, 16, or 60 pages of filter. It's not alignment indicative. There are reasons why I consider your play more likely to be pro-scum than pro-town. As I explained earlier, even though I dislike marv's play in general he has enough good points to back him up as likely town.

He could still be scum, I'm open up to all possibilities for now.

Could you be more specific in what those good points are that marv has brought up?
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 10:08 GMT
#836
Don't really remember people from when I'm scum gotta keep track of the lies. +he didn't do any plans then
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 10:09 GMT
#837
On February 05 2014 19:08 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really remember people from when I'm scum gotta keep track of the lies. +he didn't do any plans then

rofl

He did, he claimed about 10 different roles and a check on me/Koshi..
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 10:11 GMT
#838
Kinda blanked hogwarts from my mind anyway :p
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
February 05 2014 10:12 GMT
#839
On February 05 2014 19:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 18:58 Cephiro wrote:
On February 05 2014 18:55 Holyflare wrote:
Like how can you say me and marv did the same thing but then marv is most towny with dp and rayn. While I'm the least towny? 1 of my posts trolled dp and i have 6 pages of filter looool


I don't care if you have 0.6, 6, 16, or 60 pages of filter. It's not alignment indicative. There are reasons why I consider your play more likely to be pro-scum than pro-town. As I explained earlier, even though I dislike marv's play in general he has enough good points to back him up as likely town.

He could still be scum, I'm open up to all possibilities for now.


You're literally not grasping my point. The only point you raise about my play is 1 post out of 120. You acknowledge your play has been shit if you are town so you need to prove to us you ARE town by elaborating on your reads. You shouldn't have to be asked.


I am not concerned about having to prove I am town to you at all. Of course it is of my interest to make other town players trust in me, but figure this:

Let's assume I'm a IDGAF townie. Even in that case, 5 other town players can gain an instant majority if they all work together. It is not required of me to spend my time making myself look as town, when I can concentrate on trying to find scum instead. Surely it is in town's best favour if I manage to find mutual partners to trust. Which is why I'm contributing currently by answering questions as I do not have enough to be confident to lynch someone yet. I am planning on pressuring players soon enough. All in time.

I raised that point of your play because I found it excessively different from your other play. It isn't about the amount of points I raise, not about the posts I analyse. Why take up something I don't consider of particular importance?

@Rayn: Following up an answer to your question soon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 05 2014 10:16 GMT
#840
You are 36 hours late to the fucking party that's why it matters. 2 people are already considered super scummy artanis/prome based on play that WE HAVE ALREADY DONE. I'm confident we have found scum seemingly so are rayn and dp. You cannot find mutual partners to trust if you don't convince us to trust you.

Stop this shit plan/act and give me some elaborations
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