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On February 07 2014 11:49 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:48 marvellosity wrote:On February 07 2014 11:48 Aquanim wrote: Like, in all seriousness, why would any townie kill themselves when there is only one scum left... you can just lynch the scum... What if the townie thinks the other townie will kill him? It was a great play. You can just choose not to vote for the other townie, in which case unless they lynch themselves and shoot you it is fine... and if they do that, well, derp. Or you just take matters into your own hands and confirm yourself as town.
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On February 07 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. Why can't mafia self-vote in LYLO? Because if someone goes "ok, vote: you, now shoot the mafia" then the mafia loses instantly.
town gets to shoot the mafia.
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On February 07 2014 11:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:50 LSB wrote:On February 07 2014 11:48 DarthPunk wrote:On February 07 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote: you woulda won if you didn't hammer him??? Nope. Him self voting along with the rayn thing would have made him super confirmed town. At that point all town needs to do is to not kill LSB. Ceph would have understood that and shot me if he got lynched and If I got lynched I would have died. I took a 50/50 shot hoping that LSB would follow marv and promes reads of me being like totes town. Scum can't self vote at lylo and win whilst town can so self voting was a really good play. DarthPunk either was incredibly stupid since he didn't think I was confirmed town. Or he was mafia. I couldn't think you were confirmed town or I would lose. Town wins with ONE confirmed townie lol. Anyway I think scum played well. This seemed like an incredibly difficult setup for scum but maybe I am biased. If artanis had actually played maybe we would have been in a better spot, but overall I think it was a close game. GG alll ! Game was incredible hard for mafia. Although to be fair two of the mafia were outed within 12 hours of the game start pretty much.
And yes, it only took one confirmed townie in the end. Definitely playing mafia very hard.
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"we mislynched 4 straight times" is misleading when the first two lynches were to guarantee mafia flips.
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I mean it's basically the direct equivalent of "town lynched mafia day 1 and day 2 and mafia got their revenge shots"
suddenly seems like town is raping if you put it like that, which is actually correct ;p
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I caught rayn off his first post.
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I mean I literally could not have caught rayn any harder.
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In any game where 2/3 of the mafia team are outed on day 1, mafia are gonna have a hard time, regardless of setup.
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On February 07 2014 15:58 DarthPunk wrote: It was VERY imbalanced in favor of town.
I know, because there were very few ways to win as scum, and I was trying to think of them.
Anyway. I'm just going to avoid funky setups in the future.
Also about behavior, prome you and marv were just as big a dick as rayn and I, perhaps more so, and you were town.
Pay attention to this wave post from a third party not directly involved in the fight.
Lol are you seriously making this argument? You intentionally try to tilt me and call me "fucking useless" at the start and whatever else you were saying to me, and you're attacking me/us for being dicks? Are you for realsies? haha.
As I said earlier, mafia won't win any type of setup with 2/3 mafia outed on day 1. The only reason it got close was because people used a light version of dickmove analysis to call you town and town rushed things after artanis and rayn were shot. In the end townies had to get 3/4 shots right or lose the game.
I mean imagine this is a standard 9-3 or 10-3 setup and 2 mafia get caught on day 1. Mafia are totally fucked, no way back from that. Only the mechanics of this game made it close.
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On February 07 2014 16:23 Mocsta wrote: As an outside reader this game was painful.
Dp emotional pleas whilst catering to scum win con was really frustrating in general.
Marv was clearly town and whilst I also felt his vitriol was excessive, he instantly dropped it when pursuing rayn initially.
I only read to about page 40.
Also felt holy was annoying to read but he's usually cheeky like that so I have come to expect it from him.
Lastly. I dunno how much rayn opener was discussed but I was looking out for it cos I knew he was scum. It was really bad gaga. The traditional wishy washy position over talks about in his guide. Agreed. I jumped all over it and never let it go, and Prome agreed with me. The rest of the townies sat around derping and not recognising how bad it was and how mafia-oriented the rest of his play was either. Annoying.
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On February 07 2014 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: I was not a dick to anyone. well you called me "so bad" etc just like I did to DP (but much more), but I agree, you weren't
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Prome was not scummy in the slightest.
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On February 07 2014 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:marv you are going to mislynch me a lot in the future.  I don't think so. I know what you are getting at, that you will post less and stuff.
But also with VE his style changed quite a lot, he posted much less, his emotions changed, and all things like that. But I still read VE perfectly even after his style jumps around and changes.
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On February 07 2014 19:27 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 18:52 marvellosity wrote:On February 07 2014 15:58 DarthPunk wrote: It was VERY imbalanced in favor of town.
I know, because there were very few ways to win as scum, and I was trying to think of them.
Anyway. I'm just going to avoid funky setups in the future.
Also about behavior, prome you and marv were just as big a dick as rayn and I, perhaps more so, and you were town.
Pay attention to this wave post from a third party not directly involved in the fight.
Lol are you seriously making this argument? You intentionally try to tilt me and call me "fucking useless" at the start and whatever else you were saying to me, and you're attacking me/us for being dicks? Are you for realsies? haha.As I said earlier, mafia won't win any type of setup with 2/3 mafia outed on day 1. The only reason it got close was because people used a light version of dickmove analysis to call you town and town rushed things after artanis and rayn were shot. In the end townies had to get 3/4 shots right or lose the game. I mean imagine this is a standard 9-3 or 10-3 setup and 2 mafia get caught on day 1. Mafia are totally fucked, no way back from that. Only the mechanics of this game made it close. I'm not the only person that feels that way marv. And rayn wasn't going to get lynched in a normal setup. Didn't say I wasn't a dick, but you're literally saying "omg you dicks" when your plan was to TRY TO MAKE ME PLAY LIKE THAT. You're saying it as if it's some surprise.
And yes I would have got rayn lynched. I always get my man lynched. Always.
edit: the reason I'm laughing is because you sat there poking me with a stick repeatedly. and marv-bear got angry, as expected. and now post-game you're going "well marv was a dick too!". Well yes, you sat there poking a bear with a stick. Quelle surprise. And as if "and you were town" lends anything to any argument, I just sat there being poked with a stick by evil scummers.
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I wasn't playing against my wincon, what a retarded thing to say.
If you and prome hadn't been so dickish this game (and you were) I would have gained nothing from provoking you. you're literally incapable of understanding aren't you? you created it...
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On February 07 2014 19:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 19:41 marvellosity wrote: I wasn't playing against my wincon, what a retarded thing to say. You shat up the thread super hard. half the town were pissed at you. Holyflare quit playing the game. I could push you when you were obv town and look townie for it. So basically, RAGING was playing against your wincon. Which is the only reason I did it. Except it wasn't. I caught 2 mafia and gave town a confirmed townie. It didn't help my wincon but I was not playing against it
"it's ok that i was a cunt because i was mafia" is a shit argument, DP, a really shit one.
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Not playing optimally != playing against wincon
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na, I wasn't. I wasn't the one trying to make people angry. that was on you, wincon or not.
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Who got warned this game by the hosts?
You did.
edit: I also never said my behaviour was correct. Never suggested that.
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