@suki yeah that interaction ruined most of my wifomy case. I'm still not convinced you're town.

Bum and kush are town.

Crossfire could be town for his rapid fire vote on balla. balla seemed pretty beat down the last day so I can see where crossfire is ready to bus him. hmm...need to look at how much pressure balla felt when he made his case on crossfire. If there was pressure on him already it could be an attempt to give crossfire towncred later.

zarepath's prob town from how day1 ended.

scumteam is some combination of artanis, wile, ve and suki. maybe crossfire.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 24 2014 16:38 GMT

#1542

@jl wow nice work. yeah that makes artanis look so scummy.

ima about to blow your mind though.
ready?
thrawn.
u ignore thrawn but thrawn is scummy as a mother fuck. always making excuses rather than doing anything (lol i got high and played xbox).
I know from being on thrawns scumteam that he is bored as fuck by scum and he has no motivation to do stuff.

Lately thrawn has been soft defending artanis under very shaky pretenses.

On January 24 2014 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
I'm saying that scum artanis would have had to sit there watching a last minute wagon form on scumballa and not buss, not even when asked to

So he's town because he refused to vote for scum??? seriously?????????? most wifomy shitty townread ever.

Scum don't like to go on the same wagon. Instead they like to distance themselves. This is almost always true for some reason. That was the real motivation behind the lack of bus.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 24 2014 16:39 GMT

#1543

thrawn plz read that^ then cry

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 24 2014 16:42 GMT

#1544

scumteam can surrender now

Crossfire99

United States1529 Posts

January 24 2014 16:45 GMT

#1545

Ok. I'm back. I'm willing to lay off Jonny for now because he's actually tried and done stuff. I can also see his defense as townie. If our lynches don't turn out, we have to look at him again, but for now I'm definitely down for an Artanis lynch. This bum claim clears some things up, and Artanis's activity around lynch is super suspicious plus this quote from him (I feel someone already said this but I can't find it so I apologize to that person)

On January 24 2014 06:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Show nested quote +

I think it might be Barristan. I'm not sure though. The only point that really goes against him was the one I pointed out earlier, other than that nothing really stands out from his filter. If it's not Barristan, then I imagine it's one of the people that's town for the wrong reasons. It could be someone town just for a claim (Zarepath, Wile E, Thrawn). I haven't looked into them too much. Still plenty of time and I'm pretty sure on my other townreads.
-snipped-

Basically, he's attacking what he knows is a fake claim because mafia only have a rb which means 3 named vts is impossible. This is the same thing that bum knows to be false, but he knows it is because he's a parity cop. (I still can't believe you claimed now...you could have at least tried a little bit to move the lynch to artanis before claiming, but whatever lol).

##Unvote JonnyLaw
##Vote Artanis[Xp]

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 24 2014 16:52 GMT

#1546

I think thrawn did something I liked earlier in the game. Maybe it was just him calling me town when every post from the thread said lynch jonnylaw tho.

I'll have to look at it again.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 24 2014 16:53 GMT

#1547

Oh no, it was his name claim right?

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 24 2014 16:56 GMT

#1548

I just had a quick look at thrawn and it's kind of hard to believe a thrawn-artanis team would have the conversation on Balla that they did.

That is, thrawn telling Artanis to vote Balla and both of them arguing why they should/shouldn't.

I'm a bit suspicious of WileE actually. Let's say he planned to fake claim boxer from the start and just play the clueless townie card. After thrawn and Zarepath claims, he knows that he's in shit because the last boxer/doc/cop in town will know something's fishy and out him. So he has to come out right away and say woops I'm not actually blue my bad.

WileE was also on Crossfire at the time of the lynch.. although he doesn't actually ever say why.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 24 2014 16:56 GMT

#1549

Barristan or thrawn could be lying and then we're left with

B: 8x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker

as our only potential set up.

I dunno, fake claiming named vt seems so risky as scum. I need to mull it over some more. Then again Kush claimed named vt and backed off the claim.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 24 2014 17:00 GMT

#1550

Actually Jonny, B being the only setup makes sense with my WileE theory, because that means town has a GF, which would rule out setup D which is the only setup with 2 boxers and no power roles. So scum is absolutely sure there's another power role.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 24 2014 17:00 GMT

#1551

Oh I have everything wrong set up related. Ignore those posts completely. I need to sleep. Was up all night finishing up a project for work.

I thought barristan claimed and completely forgot zarepath.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 24 2014 17:00 GMT

#1552

##vote: visceraeyes

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 24 2014 17:02 GMT

#1553

Hi thrawn, reasoning?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 24 2014 17:04 GMT

#1554

I'm curious as well. I'd like more input form him but I don't see a clear reason to vote him over artanis at this point.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

January 24 2014 17:07 GMT

#1555

i dont know yet

this is the scummy group

2.) BarristanTheBold
8.) VisceraEyes
5.) Artanis[Xp]
7.) Crossfire99
9.) Wile E. Coyote

(crossfire and W E I think are town but my reasons for him aren't as good as reasons for other town reads)

I have good reasons not to lynch anyone else. vote is sorta a place holder vote until I finish filtering the above group, however I am worried about VE, it doesn't seem like he cares too much about the lynch

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 24 2014 17:07 GMT

#1556

On January 25 2014 02:00 JonnyLaw wrote:
Oh I have everything wrong set up related. Ignore those posts completely. I need to sleep. Was up all night finishing up a project for work.

I thought barristan claimed and completely forgot zarepath.

... Ok ignore my follow up post too then cuz I just went with what Jonny said and didn't read carefully.

The setup has to be:
F: 7x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 2x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker

because there is no way doctor would have not saved rayn.. Although this means mafia took the chance and shot rayn anyways even though it was possible there was a doctor in the game with setup G:

G: 7x VT, 1x Doc, 2x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker

Also, my point on WileE knowing that there had to be an extra power role is null. However it's still possible that scum didn't want to take the risk?

hm........ have to think on it more.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 24 2014 17:08 GMT

#1557

That's true thrawn.

On January 24 2014 16:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: JonnyLaw

VE when you get back, can you explain why you voted Jonny instead of Artanis after unvoting bum?

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 24 2014 17:11 GMT

#1558

Also, the setup has to be F, but only if we assume both Zarepath and thrawn's boxer claims are true.

I have no reason to doubt them at this moment so until further evidence shows up I'm going to assume this is the case.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 24 2014 17:12 GMT

#1559

Best case scenario is Artanis flips godfather. Then we just lynch WileE, thrawn and Zare cuz one of them definitely lied.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 24 2014 17:13 GMT

#1560

Half of Barristan's filter is about artanis.

I kind of feel like it's trying to give Artanis town cred but it could be a legit read.

stuff like

On January 22 2014 02:29 BarristanTheBold wrote:
My *ONLY* small concern about Artanis is that as scum he always just picks on weak targets. He never picks a fight with active, good players (ala rayn). But on the flipside, he also tends to lurk and not do much as scum.

I think I would be okay with Artanis lynch.

As an aside, I have to leave for work soon and won't be around for the lynch. I *might* be able to check the thread from my phone, but that's a big might. Let's figure this out before I leave, yis?

There's a few other posts. I dunno. I'm still happy with an artanis lynch.

@ve - I saw him tell the shadow mafia game to fuck off and went awol. I don't think we should lynch him today over artanis. If he's not useful soon? Sure.