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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 14:50 GMT
#1961
Are you stupid?
That's what you sent me. You do not call me mafia.
I proved you do not call me mafia in your PM.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 14:51 GMT
#1962
You really like to nitpick on every single thing you possibly can.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 31 2014 14:51 GMT
#1963
is it the same reason you elected not to tell the thread that kush claimed to you, and instead decided to give this response?

On January 31 2014 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 31 2014 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 31 2014 07:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn knew kush was blue, so either it's rayn or rayn should be able to tell us who else knew

So what? Did i shoot myself during the night?


how did you know kush was doctor

Because BC does not pay attention and ask stupid questions from people.
Are you seriously suggesting that i shot myself?


a confusing answer that doesn't answer the question, allowing you to obscure the fact that kush claimed doctor to you?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 14:52 GMT
#1964
What does it matter?
How does this make me mafia?
WHAT HE FUCK ARE YOU DOING? AGAIN, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 31 2014 14:56 GMT
#1965
here is what you do when 2 people vote for you:

On January 31 2014 17:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyone else do not vote for me!

BC knows what's going on already!


a bit of an overreaction to 2 votes isn't it? I ask you why are you overreacting and your response is that people shouldn't vote early duing IML

On January 29 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm okay.

I don't think that was wise BC, your BG choises i mean. That was in fact realy dumb considering you don't even seem to think i am mafia.

##unvote
##Vote: bumatlarge



clearly that's not your actual opinion. so yes. you are mafia, i caught you, and now you are panikcing. you are calling me and oats mafia and bad town all at the same time, you are concealing PMs, every post you make is filled with ad hominem and you have yet to answer several important questions I've asked. gg.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 31 2014 14:57 GMT
#1966
On January 31 2014 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What does it matter?
How does this make me mafia?
WHAT HE FUCK ARE YOU DOING? AGAIN, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?


LMAO so I'm town now?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 14:58 GMT
#1967
That's your "complicated" case?
I think you are full of shit and lying thrawn. Also that's not even a case.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 31 2014 15:02 GMT
#1968
lol I am lying? do tell

you are the person who told BH that our plan to trap oats was 20 hours in the making. it wasn't. it was about half of that.

you are the person who started acting really shady when I aksed you how you knew kush was doctor

you are the person who is trying to use my early game town read on balla to discredit me, when in PMs you completely agreed with my reasoning for reading balla as town

and you say i'm lying, lmao
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 15:07 GMT
#1969
ehh your read on balla changed in ~7 minutes based on the same log from "townietownietownietownietownie" to "ehh.. i need to throw that read out of the window". I think it's pretty much proven.

Yes i misremembered. Does that make me mafia? How? Like did i intentionally lie about something that's easy to prove? Can you tell how that makes sense from a mafia perspective and how it's more likely than that i read a QT and misread 8 PM as 8 am?

I am not acting shady. I think you are suspicious and i do not have to tell you anything. I won't give you info that you want, because the info does not matter. If you tell me how does it matter that YOU (instead of our confirmed townies) know how or why kush claimed doc to me, please share. Why does it matter and why should i share that info with you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 15:09 GMT
#1970
You have said a lot of things. You use words "shady" and "fishy" and "looks bad" but how about saying some general shit you tell how those things make me mafia?

Oh i know, because you can't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 15:09 GMT
#1971
Last time you did this same fucking shit you were scum and i got you vigged on N1.
The history is about to repeat itself.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 31 2014 15:19 GMT
#1972
On January 31 2014 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You really like to nitpick on every single thing you possibly can.

so do you. Hypocrite.
No gg, No skill.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 31 2014 15:37 GMT
#1973
Thrawn I have a serious question for you.

Why havent I received this amazing case on rayn from you?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 16:08 GMT
#1974
because the cake is a lie..
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 31 2014 16:40 GMT
#1975
Rayn, better spend your time writing an actual case for thrawn then, currently you are the one that is gonna die.
No gg, No skill.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 16:47 GMT
#1976
On January 31 2014 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You guys are seriously really bad at mafia if you think one post or "case" that's never followed up in any way in the whole game makes those two people "2% chance to be mafia together".

Like do you think mafia is nover "suspicious" of other mafia? That was not even a fucking bus, it was a retarded comment that bumatlarge never ever never followed up. He has never even talked about Balla after that. NEVER.

Then he shows up, has not even read the thread, in this whole agame, and hammers someone. YES!!

Then he talks about reads with Mocsta, except that he has not read the thread and can't have reads. But he is suspicious of Skanjabs. And Slam & Coag. Hmm.. why those three people? Because he is a fucking mafia and he knows who he can possibly even get lynched and who he can't. Why does he think i am town? Why does he think thrawn is town? Oats? Grackaroni?

Dude has seriously more informationb that he pretends to have.


This has to be the most ignorant statement in the thread. I'm not supposed to have reads? I do think grack is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 16:48 GMT
#1977
bumatlarge care to tell us all why do you think anyone is mafia?
All i have heard from you is some flip flopping and no real reasoning.. all game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 16:51 GMT
#1978
Mocsta asked you to tell your reads. You said some wishy washy general things abous some people. When he asked to clarify you said "but i have not been able to play, i have not been able to be on computer, i have not been able to do anything.. i have not been able to talk people..".

Excuses, excuses. For about 5 irl-days you have done jack shit in this game.
so in case you some weord fucking reason are town, start now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 31 2014 16:52 GMT
#1979
##Vote: bumatlarge
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 16:52 GMT
#1980
On January 31 2014 21:42 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You guys are seriously really bad at mafia if you think one post or "case" that's never followed up in any way in the whole game makes those two people "2% chance to be mafia together".

Like do you think mafia is nover "suspicious" of other mafia? That was not even a fucking bus, it was a retarded comment that bumatlarge never ever never followed up. He has never even talked about Balla after that. NEVER.


Look at their interactions:
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On January 26 2014 16:22 Balla24 wrote:
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On January 26 2014 16:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Logical leaps in PM land. I said I want to see alot of voting to help my assessment of people, and he asked if I was going to lynch one of the people running. That was a big assumption, but I could be wrong. He seems paranoid about his well-being. I don't understand why he would jump to that when I haven't said anything about him at that point.


You said you wanted to put a lot of stock into who votes for who. My first thought is:

- He wants to deduce relationships between people.

So I then think, well relationships are useless between unflipped players, so he must be planning on lynching a mayoral candidate (someone who was garnering votes) to be able to see if there might be scum-scum votes or the like. I don't see how that's a strange thing to think about, so I asked you.




On January 26 2014 16:23 Balla24 wrote:
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On January 26 2014 16:22 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 26 2014 16:18 Balla24 wrote:
Paranoid about my well-being? How so?


Well you are one of three other people running besies myself, and when I tell you I'm going to look at the votes, you jump to that. It seems a little self interested, when I never said anything about that.


Wasn't at all my thought. See above for my thought process.


It is very unlikely that a scumteam would make up a conversation, and then talk about it in this much detail to call each other scummy. But we do need to see the logs between them,
Bum can you post the logs between you and Balla, please?

I agree with you on thrawn, rayn, I think he scum. Along with Mocsta and one of Alaka/Coag. That's my bragging rights scumteam bet.

You also haven't answered my question on Mocsta. Could you please do so, and also look at his balla read, especially in that awful case post that me and kush destroyed the other day.


While you and kush are right, you need a more to be sure that someone is town other then an interaction.

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Original Message From Balla24:
Nah it's reasonable I guess. Just not what I was thinking though.

Anyways i'm going to bed, i'll reply tomorrow if you still think my thought process doesn't make sense.

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Original Message From bumatlarge:
I'm just paying attention to the flags I see man. It's still early, I'm sure if you are town it will alleviate that notion. I wouln't have immediately said anything, but I told a person on IRC who I thought was thrawn about it, and they said they thought you were scummy. So There is that.

Original Message From Balla24:
You seriously scum read me off of what I said here? It's legitimately what I thought you were implying. Turns out you were just thinking the opposite way.

Original Message From bumatlarge:
Right now it is weak, but it will get stronger. Vote placement, even for mayor, is another facet to analyze. If people say alot but don't vote that's something less to go on. It might sound silly, but I think it will end up surprising you. Take it as a late lesson. That mayor lynching conclusion is pretty weird of you. I'm a little worried

Original Message From Balla24:
I don't know it's just one of the first things I think about when talking about deducing relationships from votes.

Mayor votes feel a lot different then lynch votes. They don't really hold the meaning that lynch votes do since we aren't voting to kill anybody. So I disagree that it's a town tell, especially since people throw them out so willy-nilly. And I also disagree that its something we should focus on. Maybe if you could elaborate?


Original Message From bumatlarge:
Why would you jump to that conclusion? I probably wouldn't lynch any of the runners without better reasons. I was more or less talking about the voters. For instance, look at thrawn. I think him voting for me that early is a pretty nice town tell for me. Why would scum do that so early, unless we were both scum. If another mayor were to lynch thrawn and he flip green, I think that says something about me.

Original Message From Balla24:
So that you can deduce relationships between people? Does that mean you are planning on lynching one of the mayor candidates?

Original Message From bumatlarge:
I'm going to concentrate a lot on votes this game. The more votes that are made, the more I have to analyze. I kinda feel like what I say is true, but I think alot of voting is important. I wanted to tell you because, yes technically what I said isn't completely true about it going quickly.
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