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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 16:55 GMT
#1981
So did you not think Balla's thought process made sense or?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 16:55 GMT
#1982
Also how does the conversation start? Doesn't look like legit start of PM-convo.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 16:56 GMT
#1983
On February 01 2014 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta asked you to tell your reads. You said some wishy washy general things abous some people. When he asked to clarify you said "but i have not been able to play, i have not been able to be on computer, i have not been able to do anything.. i have not been able to talk people..".

Excuses, excuses. For about 5 irl-days you have done jack shit in this game.
so in case you some weord fucking reason are town, start now.


You sound like you need to calm down. Please attempt to talk with me when you become rational. Thrawn is very likely town, because he is one of the few people I have talked to. He didn't give a lot of scum reads, but he was intent on learning my alignment. His vote on me for mayor that early in the game I took as a town tell.

Are you this sure of me being scum because I haven't been around? Think it through again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 16:57 GMT
#1984
" Thrawn is very likely town, because he is one of the few people I have talked to. "

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?
seriously???? man????

THIS IS WHY THRAWN IS TOWN?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 16:59 GMT
#1985
I think you are mafia because of what i said in my case on N1.
Here:
On January 29 2014 06:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is why bumatlarge is mafia:

This is literally everything he has done in this game:
- Made a mayor campaign, but shared no reads at all.
- Suddenly uncampaigned and voted for BC.

Okay, what were his reasons:
- demotivated (bla bla)
- Agreed with BC's reads and they shared smae reads/lynch targets.

Let's look at the only real reason:
I asked bumatlarge what were these lynch targets they agreed on with BC. He told me Mocsta and GGTeMpLaR. I asked him to prove it with logs or PM's, because there is nothing about it in thread. He says he has no logs from irc because of some reason. BC refuses to give me those logs.

Anyways, this is what was discussed on Mocsta and GGTeMpLaR:


Show nested quote +
Original Message From bumatlarge:
Yeah pretty much, i dont have the IRC logs. I've spoken with him since then. It is possible is was trolling as town, but I didn't like it.

Original Message From raynpelikoneet:
Like that was your reason for suspecting Mocsta? All of it?

Original Message From bumatlarge:
The GGtemplar read was discussed in the thread.

Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
well he could if there were no witness' lol

Original Message From bumatlarge:
I don't, but he can't deny he did it.
Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
do you have the record of that convo with mocsta btw?
Original Message From bumatlarge:
yeah

Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
on irc?

Original Message From bumatlarge:
Sweet, if you get mayor over me, consider mocsta. He faked his name to me, and thats ok if you are trolling, but when i started talking to him he didnt correct himself. He logged out and then logged in as his own name.

[quote]


Original Message From raynpelikoneet:
1 & 2)
- I wanted to lynch QP and only QP. Did not consider lynching anyone else.
- I considered BC scum since his refusal to talk with me about QP and his terrible lynch on Storr.
- I consider(ed) you scum because all you did was had a mayor campaign, then you dropped it for no apparent reason and just voted for BC with no reasoning.
- I considered Storr mafia because BC had him as #2 scumread but Storr refused to elect me and wanted to elect BC (seems pretty stupid given he is BC's top 2 scumread - apparently he was just stupid)

3) thrawn + thread. Blazinghand is clearly town for what i said many times in thread.

I would love to have your logs with BC and hopefully one of you guys have them and send them to me. Otherwise it's really goddamn fishy because BC has not really implied his interest in lynching either Mocsta/GG, ever.

Original Message From bumatlarge:
Can you give me
1) Who you were going to lynch
2) People you considered
3) People you were in contact with about these

I'm assuming number 1 and 2 are among these
On January 28 2014 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
QP
BC
Storr
bum


ezpz


But I want your clarification. I know you are thinking what I am thinking. I wasn't going to be too active, so there was no reason to stay in the race, especially if I know it wasn't going to gain momentum. I voted BC because he seemed to be on board with lynching mocsta or templar. Obviously things changed since then and I want to know who he else he was considering. BH and QP?


Okay so bumatlarge's reasoning for suspecting Mocsta is "he did fake someone to me in irc".
SERIOUSLY WTF?!?! That's the stupidest reason ever.

Reasons to suspect GGTeMpLaR; "It was discussed in thread". NO IT WAS NOT! YOU NEVER DISCUSSED ANYTHING IN THREAD!

One more thing, look at why and how bumatlarge votes for BC for mayor.
His reasons are "he shares a scumread on GG and Mocsta and wants to lynch them".
That's not correct, BEFORE bum votes for BC, BC has said he will lynch Blazinghand and the only other person he considers is Storrzerg. bumatlarge's story does not add up.

Here are the posts BC lays out his reads the last time before bum votes for him and bum's vote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 02:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK heres how things stand.

I have suitably been given enough Information via thread and irc to consolidate my read for the day.

IF elected, barring any shenanigans between now and the deadline, I will lynch BH.

The reasons for this are simple.

First off he "shared" Alakaslams role for no reason to VE. He has been unable to justify this to anyone I have talked to or to myself. Its day 1, and its fucked up that he would do it as town.

Secondly. He said he was planning on going out of his way to find a suitable candidate for the day and push them as he didn't want to be elected. He has then with "prodding" decided he was going to actually run. However this was over a day between these posts and he never at any point recommended anyone vote for one of the other candidates.

His scum read of VE is incredibly weird. He apparently trolled VE which got VE understandably confused. Then based on irc/in thread BH thinks VE is scum primarily in regards to a case Mocsta made. But never provided a new point of his own. He never clarified why he believes one of mocsta and VE has to be scum and the other town and how he made that differation.

Also his entire play has changed from the last 3 games hes played. In LXIII he was a third party assassin. In the first version of this game he was a town mason. In both those games he played a clearly distinct style. He is now showing a third style of play this game. Given he went third party, town, and now we have a third play style I am suspecting its scum.



The only other person I am currently considering as a suspect is storrzerg. His interactions with me were incredibly weird, and i know the general opinion of him from those he has played with before is that hes scum. I also know hes been far more active in pms than the thread thats fishy as fuck.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 02:50 bumatlarge wrote:
##Vote BC

See the timestamps. Right!


After this you have failed to do anything productive.
You have given no reads at all.
You have done no scumhunting.
You have done nothing.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 16:59 GMT
#1986
On February 01 2014 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also how does the conversation start? Doesn't look like legit start of PM-convo.


It was after one of his posts in the thread, it's relevant. I'll try to find it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 17:01 GMT
#1987
No i don't really care as it does not really matter.
Just tell us who is mafia in your opinion and why.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:02 GMT
#1988
On January 26 2014 10:29 Balla24 wrote:
Why are you rushing people to declare their candidacy? Last game marv didn't run for a long time and he ended up being the best candidate. Let things develop as they develop.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 17:04 GMT
#1989
On February 01 2014 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So did you not think Balla's thought process made sense or?

Although this is a relevant question.

Why did you never ever talk about Balla after that PM-convo / thread post?

Like, did your scumread somehow fade into oblivion? And then you just happened to chime in and hammer him with "i have not been able to play so idk wtf is going on but YOLO, let's hammer someone" or what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 17:05 GMT
#1990
Okay so you wanted people to vote, and vote fast. That was your intention.
Where are the vote analysis?

Seriously, every single thing you have promised to do in this game you have not done. Do you think it's townie?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:07 GMT
#1991
Grack is mafia. How can you call me scum for reads, or thrawn for just town reads, when there is a post like this.

On January 29 2014 08:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Balla could be a solid lynch as well.

I'm basically working with this group of townies:
Grackaroni
Bloodyc0bbler
Raynpelikoneet
Blazinghand
Mocsta
Thrawn
Alakaslam

Leaving 4 scum in the remaining 6 people.


You are ignoring players for what is curently on the table rayn. I have yet to say who I think is town aside from a few players. I never said I thought you were town, but just because I haven't mentioned you, you jump to that conclusion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 17:10 GMT
#1992
So why is Grack mafia?
Why is it so fucking hard for everyone to give a fucking reasoning for their read?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:11 GMT
#1993
On February 01 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So did you not think Balla's thought process made sense or?

Although this is a relevant question.

Why did you never ever talk about Balla after that PM-convo / thread post?

Like, did your scumread somehow fade into oblivion? And then you just happened to chime in and hammer him with "i have not been able to play so idk wtf is going on but YOLO, let's hammer someone" or what?


Becacuse I wasn't here. I knew my vote was early, but I can't help if I was the hammer. That's not really indicative of anything if you aren't looking at anyone else on there. He was a red-read, so I would have liked to see him lynched, especially if there was a chance we were going to lynch me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:12 GMT
#1994
On February 01 2014 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you wanted people to vote, and vote fast. That was your intention.
Where are the vote analysis?

Seriously, every single thing you have promised to do in this game you have not done. Do you think it's townie?


It doesn't matter at this point because everyone you and BC wanted to lynch were town. You have a very selective memory if you don't remember the one real post I made in the past few days.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 17:13 GMT
#1995
But you have not mentioned Balla after D1?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 17:14 GMT
#1996
On February 01 2014 02:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you wanted people to vote, and vote fast. That was your intention.
Where are the vote analysis?

Seriously, every single thing you have promised to do in this game you have not done. Do you think it's townie?


It doesn't matter at this point because everyone you and BC wanted to lynch were town. You have a very selective memory if you don't remember the one real post I made in the past few days.

Of course it matters. BC was about to lynch BH, who is now confirmed town.
You are the one who is avoiding to contribute what you have promised.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 17:15 GMT
#1997
Ugh i fucking give up.
Just lynch that dude. He is not playing the game.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
January 31 2014 17:16 GMT
#1998
On February 01 2014 02:07 bumatlarge wrote:
Grack is mafia.

Let's hear it Bummers.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 31 2014 17:17 GMT
#1999
Read his filter, read the logs. He promises things and never does anything. He has no real reads and when asked for reasoning there is no reasoning. Everything has been "misremembered" or dropped but then suddenly appears again or whatever...
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
January 31 2014 17:20 GMT
#2000
So what's the deal here Rayn. Do you believe Thrawn is mafia? And there's something about a green check on Oats?
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