EPTTL Mafia LXIV: The Restart - Page 26
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kushm4sta
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On January 27 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Idk about them, but for me personally: I liked your post at first and was like "oh shit maybe QP is town, especially his latest post I liked a lot - this BH guy is my top town for pointing this out before anyone else" Then I thought "well wouldn't it be super pro if a mafia made the first post that caused everyone to realize QP is town to get town cred" Then I decided I wasn't actually sold on QP yet as town or mafia and that he still leaned scummy - and even if he's town it could be either scenario so I will null-read for now but you haven't really done anything besides that QP read. don't bother with giving me towncred for defending QP. just realize that QP is an "easy" lynch, and not because he's scummy, but because his thought process, which seems internally consistent to me, is foreign to other players. He's the kind of guy who can get lynched D1, flip town, and we'll go into D2 basically going "well, that happened" because that's what happens to players like QP. just don't lynch him today, see how it goes. If he's still unreadable in a day, we have more lynches. I look at QP and I see a wagon that is suspiciously easy, if that makes sense. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 27 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Idk about them, but for me personally: I liked your post at first and was like "oh shit maybe QP is town, especially his latest post I liked a lot - this BH guy is my top town for pointing this out before anyone else" Then I thought "well wouldn't it be super pro if a mafia made the first post that caused everyone to realize QP is town to get town cred" Then I decided I wasn't actually sold on QP yet as town or mafia and that he still leaned scummy - and even if he's town it could be either scenario so I will null-read for now but you haven't really done anything besides that QP read. So what was the actual conclusion here. That BH never actually said anything? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On January 27 2014 04:06 VisceraEyes wrote: So what was the actual conclusion here. That BH never actually said anything? The conclusion is ggtemp doesn't feel comfortable taking a strong read on me at this time. He probably isn't aware that most of you are just pushing me because that's how you get me to do anything before D2, and is wondering what the deal is with all these people pushing BH. He's feeling a little out of place. He thinks he's missing some subtext--and he is. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 27 2014 04:05 Blazinghand wrote: don't bother with giving me towncred for defending QP. just realize that QP is an "easy" lynch, and not because he's scummy, but because his thought process, which seems internally consistent to me, is foreign to other players. He's the kind of guy who can get lynched D1, flip town, and we'll go into D2 basically going "well, that happened" because that's what happens to players like QP. just don't lynch him today, see how it goes. If he's still unreadable in a day, we have more lynches. I look at QP and I see a wagon that is suspiciously easy, if that makes sense. In what way is it suspiciously easy? BC said something and then KUSH agreed with him. What do you mean by "suspiciously easy" exactly? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On January 27 2014 04:07 VisceraEyes wrote: In what way is it suspiciously easy? BC said something and then KUSH agreed with him. What do you mean by "suspiciously easy" exactly? Well, as I've explained in the previous paragraphs, QP case is imo showing the signs of the classic "let's lynch this guy because he's different" stuff. If QP was really newbie scum (instead of newbie town) we'd find 1) he wouldn't be making this posts flagrantly defending a weird position ("long posts are bad!") and 2) his posts to begin with would make more sense since he has a scum QT to coordinate with come on man this is scumhunting 101. can't' you smell a mislynch like this a mile away? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Blazinghand
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Balla24
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1. I'm probably the one with the most knowledge about the most players. I know the quantumpope/ggtemplar/storrzerg/tehpoofter players where probably nobody else really does. Then I've been active on this forum for long enough to know the vets and the trolls. This gives me the best chance of feeling something is off with everybody compared to a mayor who doesn't know half the town. For example, atm ggtemplar is deviating from his scum games a little bit, he seems more relaxed: + Show Spoiler + On January 26 2014 07:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I counterclaim your [g]Mason[/g] claim. And [r]Storrzerg[/r] is probably mafia. On January 26 2014 07:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote: ok I look dumb now but you should still make me the mayor On January 26 2014 08:34 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Balla24 is probably town. I like the way he came into the thread fearless like a tiger pushing a clear agenda. Compared to opening posts in really small: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 04:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Holyflare is my scumtell right now because he presumes to act like a confirmed town without having actually made any contributions to town himself. He just keeps asking for others to find clues for him. Not to mention his first post lead to the great scoobydoo spam of 2014. His trolly attitude came off as relaxed and confident townie on the surface, but the intentions and consequences were ultimately anti-town in my eyes. On January 10 2014 05:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote: The consequences are the 2 pages of scoobydoo roleplaying and off-shoot trolling that resulted from the silly atmosphere which just reads null all-round to me. The intentions were to produce this amount of fluff that we have to sift through to get reads + the added effect that he initially comes off as a relaxed/confident townie despite not having presented any unique game-related content. + Show Spoiler + /mysterymachine Whereas storrzerg seems less assertive than usual and less willing to put himself out there, which is strange. Also lurking, which town storr barely ever did. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102 On October 30 2013 09:46 StorrZerg wrote: On October 30 2013 13:54 StorrZerg wrote: i really hate people who look for "concrete" reasons to lynch someone, specially day 1.... we want to lynch mafia sure, but a "concrete" reason would imo be, a cop claiming his checks at night, then dieing that night. i think this is a pretty consistent thing regarding the median of mafia. personally i'm a bit sad so many people are going after cakeman since i wanted to pressure him more. I can pick up on these things without actually going and searching for games since I've played with a good majority of the thread. 2. I'm active in PM land. So I can get answers and find out how people are acting in PM land, whereas some people aren't as active there. Or if they are, then they are sacrificing thread presence. Please PM me if you want to have a conversation!!!!! I'm on IRC and will respond on TL too. 3. I'll find scum, and be very open with the thread so that the players who can't be as active in PM land will know what their mayor is thinking. Right now, i'd lynch: Alakaslam Skanjab1s StorrZerg Alakslam opened like he wanted to play. Kush pointed out that he did this in Extractor Mafia and since then slam has gone straight back to non-sensical thread clogging. That's sketchy, but some people have expressed their disagreement about this read. Skanjab1s is because he already contradicted himself within the first couple posts of the thread by saying he'd lynch QP but then agreeing with kush that BC's attack on QP was bad. StorrZerg because he's not "generally active" like he said he would be, and it's already a change from his town game like I pointed out above. 4. I'm Balla, I know I got a bad repatation. Walking 'round, always mad repatation. ##VOTE for me for mayor! | ||
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Blazinghand
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QuantumPope
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On January 27 2014 03:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your post was crafted. It was vague, included 0 reads. The "bad" people were listed with flawed reasoning that you had for placing them there, etc... You only provided "full" reads on your town reads when asked and they were shoddy. Also anyone who has experienced games with kush should know fully where I am coming from. Its no secret that he trolls a fuck ton and randomly vanishes or just does random shit. Getting a town read on him is fine, putting him in power is not. I appreciate a post like this much more than your previous one. You lack of personal attacks and actually trying to give me a read is helpful instead of trying to play on my emotions. That post was to have town start speaking about my reads and have me explain them further. By doing this it allows town to gather information on why you pinged that person and shows interaction. You decided to personally attack me without trying to think why someone would post like that and read my scummy for it. You also seemed to be grasping at straws when I felt like I gave good arguments to my reasoning. If you are into specific reads so much why have given none and been tunneling on my posting style instead of asking questions to have me elaborate? Especially if you don't like some of those reads. As for kush: I have never supported him. I'm trying to see where you got that?I'll let this first day let me get a better read and I have taken your words into consideration but my read on him has not changed. He is not being town read, nor is he someone I want in power. Overall I think I've defeated a lot of the pressure brought towards me but I'd love to see what more people think of my reads. On January 27 2014 03:31 Oatsmaster wrote: QP, why did you write a list post SO EARLY IN THE GAME? I thought it would be the best way to get my reads out early on in a quick and easy way. As to questioning other people's reads I tend to like that play but I found it too aggressive for my liking. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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GGTeMpLaR
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GGTeMpLaR
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Skanjab1s
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Skanjab1s
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 27 2014 04:24 Skanjab1s wrote: ##Vote: BC I don't yet. :D | ||
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QuantumPope
Canada76 Posts
On January 27 2014 04:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote: You never responded to my post QP On January 27 2014 02:34 GGTeMpLaR wrote: CONRAD!!!! You're my top scum now!!! Did you put one of your mafia in each of the 3 categories? Could you explain to town what you believe in right now TeMpLaR? You claim I put mafia in each of my 3 categories but then you immediately thought my reasoning was pretty good. I am confused with this latest post if you like my reads or not? | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 27 2014 04:30 QuantumPope wrote: Could you explain to town what you believe in right now TeMpLaR? You claim I put mafia in each of my 3 categories but then you immediately thought my reasoning was pretty good. I am confused with this latest post if you like my reads or not? Sorry I just meant this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856¤tpage=23#460 Also, how are you guys so sure BC is town? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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