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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 26 2014 20:22 GMT
#541
you could even argue that a vet is the worst choice since a vet will look town regardless of alignment
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
January 26 2014 20:22 GMT
#542
@balla you got anything else other than "oooooo not as active as he said he would oooooooooo"

like to point out last game we played, i got harped on that and it turned out to be a useless baseless thing to try and lynch me for.
gotta step up your game, i thought you "knew how i played"

seems like your unique points are really not that great....
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 26 2014 20:22 GMT
#543
also a vet might have inherent biases that a rookie does not
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 26 2014 20:23 GMT
#544
On January 27 2014 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope you guys know your shit regarding BC being town

Well I have seen him roll scum, he fooled me then. However, I want a vet mayor and the other two I recognize at the moment are not running.


I don't follow how Mafia Vet > Town Rookie


Just to be clear, I'm not saying he's mafia. It just seems like you have no read on him and are voting for him purely on being a vet without regards to his alignment.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 26 2014 20:24 GMT
#545
On January 27 2014 05:22 Balla24 wrote:
also a rookie might have inherent biases that a vet does not


I swapped the two things you're comparing in this sentence and it still makes sense, meanign that this is a non-sentence
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 20:25 GMT
#546
On January 27 2014 05:22 Blazinghand wrote:
you could even argue that a vet is the worst choice since a vet will look town regardless of alignment


Prettty sure I have been seen fairly easily as scum in recent times. I dont tend to fool people past day 3 when im scum. Usually not even that long.

Also I am loving the people stepping out to try and prevent me from being elected.

Also I haven't stated who I will 100% lynch. You know why? Because not even 24 hours has passed in this game. Committing to a lynch with that little information is something no player should ever be doing at this stage.

Give it another 12-18 hours and sure.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 26 2014 20:27 GMT
#547
On January 27 2014 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope you guys know your shit regarding BC being town

Well I have seen him roll scum, he fooled me then. However, I want a vet mayor and the other two I recognize at the moment are not running.


I don't follow how Mafia Vet > Town Rookie

Well vote me then.

I don't buy it.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#548
On January 27 2014 05:21 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:17 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:16 StorrZerg wrote:
##Vote:GGTEMPLAR

his swooning has won me over


K how


what don't you understand?

he is driving discussion, the only thing people are hunting about him of any importance is him "blue hunting" and to that i say null. Reason being is, its obviously super bad and stupid in general. He is a newer player, i'd expect him to be talking to his "scum team" if he was scum, and they would have bashed the shit outta him for doing that.

Moving off that, he starts off day one with aggressiveness and discussion focus game. my pms with him have lead me to believe he is looking for scum and i feel his mindset is that of a townie.

Sure I townread him too considering the blue hunting bs was clarifying a campaign anyway! But I WANT A FRIGGIN' VET MAYOR BRO.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#549
I have to ask. I noticed you were pushing somebody again for wanting to elect Kushm4sta?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#550
On January 27 2014 05:24 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:22 Balla24 wrote:
also a rookie might have inherent biases that a vet does not


I swapped the two things you're comparing in this sentence and it still makes sense, meanign that this is a non-sentence


no, not really, what kind of biases do you think i have? or ggtemplar?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#551
imo the most important part of the mayor position is the protection from NKs. If a townie is making a lot of sense and leading town discussion in a good direction, scum are going to want to NK them to remove them. But if they're mayor, they can't until the Bodyguard(s) is dead.

It's not just about getting to decide the D1 lynch, it's about making the right choice for town. Based on PMs and what I've seen from BC in the thread so far, I think he's got town's best interest at heart and he'll lynch wisely. I reserve the right to change my vote if he starts seeming scummy, but I think he's the best choice for mayor right now.

It has nothing to do with vet bias. I concede that my personal experience playing with him factors in, but that's meta, not vet bias.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#552
On January 27 2014 05:30 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:22 Balla24 wrote:
also a rookie might have inherent biases that a vet does not


I swapped the two things you're comparing in this sentence and it still makes sense, meanign that this is a non-sentence


no, not really, what kind of biases do you think i have? or ggtemplar?


like ok here's what i'm trying to say (sorry i should be more clear). you can't just say "we shouldn't elect a vet because a vet might have biases a rookie doesn't have" without specifying what kind of biases these are. Like, by definition a vet will have different biases than a rookie because a vet has played more games, right? Or maybe a vet knows people better or something. If you can put together a reason why these biases might be bad (for example, a vet might arbitrarily be pro lynching BH since BH is way to sexy) or at least a list of what these biases ARE, then we can have a conversation. otherwise, you're just weighing in without saying anything, a classic active lurker move. Balla24.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
January 26 2014 20:34 GMT
#553
ggtemplar is a rookie over yourself do you not agree BH?

also BH how likely would you be to lynch a vet day 1? how likely would any vet be to lynch a vet day 1 as a mayor?

even moving off that, everyone who plays this game has bias. Players they like, players they don't care for and would lynch scum or town because they hate their play.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 26 2014 20:36 GMT
#554
On January 27 2014 05:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope you guys know your shit regarding BC being town

Well I have seen him roll scum, he fooled me then. However, I want a vet mayor and the other two I recognize at the moment are not running.


I don't follow how Mafia Vet > Town Rookie

Well vote me then.

I don't buy it.


Buy what? What are you even talking about?
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 26 2014 20:36 GMT
#555
Balla I have to ask. You say that you know the most amount of players and that you play with a group of them elsewhere. IE this would give you the most experience with the player base. Not necessarily the most experience at the game but most with the player base. As such how do you classify yourself as a rookie? You clearly know everyone and as such you would have bias'. As someone who says you have more knowledge about a specific group of players would that not inherently mean you are biased in some way towards those people?

Vet bias is silly. If someone is experienced, you trust that they are capable of doing what is required you support them. If a rookie is making a shite ton more sense than the vet and they get the support thats where it lands. But at the end of the day it comes down to the posts.

Trying to undermine someones support on a faulty basis is just silly.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 26 2014 20:37 GMT
#556
On January 27 2014 05:34 StorrZerg wrote:
ggtemplar is a rookie over yourself do you not agree BH?

also BH how likely would you be to lynch a vet day 1? how likely would any vet be to lynch a vet day 1 as a mayor?

even moving off that, everyone who plays this game has bias. Players they like, players they don't care for and would lynch scum or town because they hate their play.


I suspect there are certain vets (VE, Marv, etc) who basically never get lynched D1 because when they are town they are often shot. I'd certainly be hesitant to lynch VE, or even to consider pushing him, even if I thought he was scum, during D1. For example, this game I don't have a townread on VE, which is evidence to me that he's scum (scum VE rarely strikes me as scummy). you wont' see mentioning this or pushing it in thread though, for a number of reasons. mostly ve isn't lynchable today, and I could be wrong and he'll be shot tonight. But also, my read on VE is a gutread. something just seems off to him. I can't just point at something and say "this is where VE is being scum" because if I could, I would just do that. I may have to sit and think a bit leading up to D2 on whether or not he really is scum, and as importantly, whether or not actually pushing him would do anything but get me lynched.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 26 2014 20:38 GMT
#557
On January 27 2014 05:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:27 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:09 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope you guys know your shit regarding BC being town

Well I have seen him roll scum, he fooled me then. However, I want a vet mayor and the other two I recognize at the moment are not running.


I don't follow how Mafia Vet > Town Rookie

Well vote me then.

I don't buy it.


Buy what? What are you even talking about?

Having a non-vet mayor!

G2g soon folks. Get your PM's sent and questions asked!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 26 2014 20:41 GMT
#558
Real quick.

I am now agreeing with VE. I think "Wile" has lost interest in the game entirely... What is not a lot of reading to is is a ton to him apparently... And I don't think anyone has bothered to message him. Doesn't seem like it.

May need plynch. Sorry.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 26 2014 20:42 GMT
#559
aren't you Wile
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 26 2014 20:45 GMT
#560
On January 27 2014 05:42 Blazinghand wrote:
aren't you Wile

Yes and no. He is using my smurf account. He changed the password but even if he hadn't you all would still have to trust me, I could just look over his shoulder or ask him or etc.

This is his first (and possibly last) mafia game.
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