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That quote from Toad obviously looks terrible and is the fucking exact same thing I called Sno out on and then you fucks all said my case was horrible haha.
Regardless, Toad is not the best lynch. 1) hes been pretty active, isn't proof that hes town but is a decent indicator usually. 2) Mafia don't usually fake claim like this in a small setup. If he was going to fake claim why do it this early? Better to wait until it was almost lynch then fake claim. Usually it is stupid/emotional townies who claim this early. Also if he were mafia he risks someone counter claiming and just lynching him. Unless he/vayne are both mafia so they planned for vayne to immediately tell people not to counter claim.
Anyway with 3 mafia alive, seems better to lynch someone else and maybe mafia will just shoot toad tonight.
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Well what do you suggest then?
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On January 19 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote:
Or SK.
Therefore he didn't give reads because he knew he wasn't going to be shot. Or he even has vest.
I will check how many times toad gives reads when town on the night deadline.
Did you ever check this koshi?
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If vayne/toad are not mafia together then seems pretty likely that vayne is town. He had obviously considered the possibility of multiple parity cops. If he were mafia he would be thrilled with the possibility of a potential counter claim. It would probably end the game for town.
Rayn is like 99% town. So if we ignore toad/vayn. Probably should be ignoring hopeless just based on the fact that 0 blues have flipped and if town doesn't have any medics (I am assuming this unless they are retarded and didn't protect thrawn/kush. Guess it is possible they protected rayn). But anyway would make sense for town to have vets. Possible that hopeless could be sk and took the bp option still btw but useless to consider for now.
So what we have ceph/sno/skan/koshi/oats.
I am just going to be honest, I don't really know who is mafia. I looked back through skan's games and he doesn't have any as mafia so wasn't a lot of help.
Rayn are you confident koshi is town? I asked you this earlier and don't think you answered it.
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We should lynch Sn0, his few posts after we were all on his ass made me think he was kinda townie, but his late-lynch sheepiness is suspect, and the other reasons that I mentioned on d1 are valid.
##Unvote
##Vote: Sn0_Man
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sno btw hasn't posted in forever. If he ends up being mafia and I was right from the beginning going to be pissed.
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I can promise you that I'm not mafia, and tell you that I've never lied about making that kind of promise as scum, and if you feel like being illogical you'd get to cross off a townie from your scumlist.
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On January 20 2014 07:02 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote:
Or SK.
Therefore he didn't give reads because he knew he wasn't going to be shot. Or he even has vest.
I will check how many times toad gives reads when town on the night deadline. Did you ever check this koshi?
Toad is not the player I expected. :D Like his previous games are just mayhem. Some games he is constantly pushing somebody writing his name in different colors. Some games he lurks. Meh. Got nothing from there.
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Skan what happened to hopeless. You were more confident after the lynch that it made him mafia. What changed.
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But to answer the question. He is not the guy that makes lists and posts them.
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On January 20 2014 07:07 Mig wrote:
Skan what happened to hopeless. You were more confident after the lynch that it made him mafia. What changed.
Toad says that he checked hopeless last night, and because he hasn't tried to lynch him, I assume that he got back a green check.
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Oh wait, there are only parity cops.
Well regardless, I'm fine with letting hopeless live for one more day on the off chance that Toad survives the night.
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koshi you said earlier that oats being aggressive/in your face does not make him town because he has done it as mafia. Do you have any examples of games where that is true?
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If we are not lynching Toad who is mafia then we need to lynch Oats who is also mafia.
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Yes, i am pretty sure Koshi is town, like almost certain.
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Mig how do you not see Oats is scum? He has done absolutely nothing in this game.
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Oats never does anything, in white flag he was way more passive/self conscious and Grack caught him immediately just based on meta. Grack didn't do the same this game. So I am asking does anyone have examples of Oats being aggressive as mafia.
Anyway I am reading his filter and pyp's for comparison now.
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oh remembered there was something I wanted to look up. Found it:
On January 17 2014 08:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
no one will follow through and will probably try to lynch me, but here's my thought process
option a) kush flips scum
option b) rayn takes a hit to his ego
option b2) rayn dies for being wrong (haha smd)
thats a win-win(-) to me.
Since kush already flipped town, b) should already be the case. I'd be willing to execute b2) or vote myself, nothing else. Up to whoever gets in here first and tells me what to do with my vote. Yeah sorry but rayn's been a dick all game long so I just felt like pointing this out before I, the other 100% certain mafia will flip town as well.
Back to CivV
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