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Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
January 20 2014 00:09 GMT
#1721
Worst case scenario, he sinks the roleblock, and we lynch him tomorrow and someone else today. The end result of the worst possible scenario is one less scum power being used tonight.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 20 2014 00:13 GMT
#1722
there's so much wrong with that I don't know where to begin. If you make the assumption he is mafia, there are many things that can happen.

they simply RB some one else, knowing the claim isn't real. He brings in a fake check tomorrow

They "RB" him

The claim is real and they RB him (the most normal scenario)

the claim is real and they RB some one else for WIFOM

etc. etc. I dont follow your logic basically because if mafia was that easy then no one would play this boring ass game.
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:15 GMT
#1723
No the fact is unless Toad does things that townies would do in his situation we lynch him. I don't give a fuck what he has claimed, what he is doing now is 100% anti-town.
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Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
January 20 2014 00:18 GMT
#1724
On January 20 2014 09:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
there's so much wrong with that I don't know where to begin. If you make the assumption he is mafia, there are many things that can happen.

they simply RB some one else, knowing the claim isn't real. He brings in a fake check tomorrow

They "RB" him

The claim is real and they RB him (the most normal scenario)

the claim is real and they RB some one else for WIFOM

etc. etc. I dont follow your logic basically because if mafia was that easy then no one would play this boring ass game.


Yeah. And in every one of those scenario's he dies, in two of them, he dies as scum, and in one of them we get a wasted RB, and in the other we get a free check.

There is nothing wrong with this. But whatevs, use it, dont use it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2014 00:18 GMT
#1725
If someone is a dayvig, now would be a great time to shoot Toad
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
January 20 2014 00:24 GMT
#1726
Yes! Anything to keep the claimed cop from surviving until night!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 20 2014 05:05 GMT
#1727
Hey Rayn, kush flipped town, are you gonna agree to get lynched today?
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2014 11:59 GMT
#1728
I think I solved this game. Let me gather my thoughts. It just came to me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2014 13:22 GMT
#1729
The easiest solution is just Toads scum. Mig/Cephiro with him.

Because I promised it, if you really want my theory here it is in short version:
+ Show Spoiler +

It contained Toads as SK. Oats/Cephiro/Skanjab/Mig as scums.

Kush died by mafia. (Skanjab, + last post)
Thrawn by Toads. (The entire theory by Toad is to misdirect mafia)

Then there is Mig/Oats/Cephiro and I can't decide which ones are scum.

Also I think that 7 town 3 scum 1 SK is quite insane. But the RB on mafia enforces SK theory. I was thinking maybe 2 mafia but that is close to impossible, a 2 man team is so low...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2014 13:24 GMT
#1730
I can call all of them scum but it is so based on association and because I have 4 scums it doesn't even make sense. On top of that there is an SK.....
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2014 13:25 GMT
#1731
Also. Where is the Evil Snowman? It's "normal" that he is awol when it is weekend. But this is getting silly.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 14:30 GMT
#1732
Koshi that's really weak. You need to explain that in more detail.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 14:31 GMT
#1733
There is no way mafia shot kushmasta unless mafia has a vigi and there is no SK.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 20 2014 15:10 GMT
#1734
Why not?
"
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2014 15:18 GMT
#1735
Why not? Let's say scumteam is Mig/Cephiro/Skanjab.
Kush knows Skanjab and had the theory around Mig/Cephiro bus.

He was a good shot.

Look at how Mig plays:
On January 20 2014 06:36 Mig wrote:
Regardless, Toad is not the best lynch.

Todays lynch. --> Toad is not best lynch but I don't give a better solution. I give you this though:

On January 20 2014 07:04 Mig wrote:
1) If vayne/toad are not mafia together then seems pretty likely that vayne is town. He had obviously considered the possibility of multiple parity cops. If he were mafia he would be thrilled with the possibility of a potential counter claim. It would probably end the game for town.

2) Rayn is like 99% town. So if we ignore toad/vayn. Probably should be ignoring hopeless just based on the fact that 0 blues have flipped and if town doesn't have any medics (I am assuming this unless they are retarded and didn't protect thrawn/kush. Guess it is possible they protected rayn). But anyway would make sense for town to have vets. Possible that hopeless could be sk and took the bp option still btw but useless to consider for now.

3) So what we have ceph/sno/skan/koshi/oats.

I am just going to be honest, I don't really know who is mafia. I looked back through skan's games and he doesn't have any as mafia so wasn't a lot of help.

Rayn are you confident koshi is town? I asked you this earlier and don't think you answered it.

1) VA is not scum because he is not on the same scumteam with the guy I think is town. what???
2) Hopeless is town or SK with vest. Why not mafia that lies if he is possible SK? The reasoning that Hopeless is town is because of no blue flips, but if you trow that theory out of the window there is 0 reasons for Hopeless to be SK over mafia.
3) So 3 out of these 5 are mafia. Doesn't give any probability who it is but asks for the millionth time "is Koshi town?" After that still doesn't know who the 3 mafia are between 4 candidates. Like, you can't go wrong anymore, just pick one and vote him......
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2014 15:19 GMT
#1736
Mig doesn't have 1 townread except rayn. 99% sure.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 15:20 GMT
#1737
Do you think any mafia team in this game would shoot kushm4sta on N1? Like do you think regardless of how right or wrong kush is on his reads he can ever convince anyone to lynch anyone given the other players in the game?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
January 20 2014 15:21 GMT
#1738
Considering you still think I am mafia, you don't know who the mafia are either koshi.

I was trying to narrow people down through poe on who would give the highest % chance of being mafia. Could hopeless still be mafia? Yes but he at least had something going for him which most people don't.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 15:21 GMT
#1739
I don't understand how can you possibly come to the conclusion kush was shot byy amfia and thrawn was shot by SK, how do you even entertain the possibility regardless of who is mafia/SK?

It makes absolutely zeros sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 15:22 GMT
#1740
Mig thoughts on Toad and Oats please?
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