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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On January 21 2014 00:40 Skanjab1s wrote: Hey, what are your reasons for thinking I'm scum? Because this does sound like pure OMGUS.(net) Because every time you pop in the thread its to be blendy and point out some irrelevancy without actually scumhunting. Who is scum Skanjab? Oh right, its me the safe vote that your scumbuddy oats has already put on the table. Why? "Sheepiness pre vote" give me a break. If you want to accuse me, at least try to make a case. I wanted CONSOLIDATION in the lynch. Something that scum couldn't just pull whatever way they wanted. Meanwhile the rest of your posts range from On January 20 2014 07:07 Skanjab1s wrote: I can promise you that I'm not mafia, and tell you that I've never lied about making that kind of promise as scum, and if you feel like being illogical you'd get to cross off a townie from your scumlist. to On January 20 2014 01:16 Skanjab1s wrote: If you guys could stop shipping me with whoever you think is scum, that'd be great. Rayn, could you summarize why Toad is scum please? Remember that I have no idea about his meta, so the "him being dumb" point doesn't help much. So helpful in catching scum. Clearly that is your primary desire. PS why did you drop your hopeless read? You were so certain he was scum post grack's flip. What changed? None of that comes from town. | ||
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Skanjab1s
748 Posts
On January 21 2014 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, if he is mafia there is not a single reason to not lynch him. rayn confirmed for not reading the thread | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On January 21 2014 00:49 Skanjab1s wrote: rayn confirmed for not reading the thread So you believe there is a chance that he is town, but if he does not get roleblocked or die the next night he is mafia. What do you suggest we do if on D3 Toad comes in and says "i checked X and him and Hopeless are different"? | ||
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Skanjab1s
748 Posts
On January 21 2014 00:48 Sn0_Man wrote: Because every time you pop in the thread its to be blendy and point out some irrelevancy without actually scumhunting. Who is scum Skanjab? Oh right, its me the safe vote that your scumbuddy oats has already put on the table. Why? "Sheepiness pre vote" give me a break. If you want to accuse me, at least try to make a case. I wanted CONSOLIDATION in the lynch. Something that scum couldn't just pull whatever way they wanted. Meanwhile the rest of your posts range from to So helpful in catching scum. Clearly that is your primary desire. PS why did you drop your hopeless read? You were so certain he was scum post grack's flip. What changed? None of that comes from town. (1) I have made a case (2) Your sheepyness and willingness to absolve yourself from responsibility of the town lynch by just copying thread sentiment is scummy. I will not give you a break. (3) You quoted a post where I am trying to improve my read on both rayn and Toad, and am trying to get more involved in the game, and then acted as if I was doing nothing in it. (4) I've already answered the hopeless question. Repeating people's questions to look townie isn't a very good strategy, dear. | ||
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Skanjab1s
748 Posts
On January 21 2014 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you believe there is a chance that he is town, but if he does not get roleblocked or die the next night he is mafia. What do you suggest we do if on D3 Toad comes in and says "i checked X and him and Hopeless are different"? Nevermind, I just thought properly about this. I was going to say "lynch the scummiest of the two (probably hopeless) and then the other if he flips town". But if Toad was mafia then by the time we get through lynching all of them the game would be over, I forgot that there are so little town left. I concede this point, I was wrong. I still, however, don't think Toad is mafia. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Skanjab1s
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
If you think he's scum, lynch with fire. The parity check would still be valid after hopeless flips, in fact it makes Toad's role more powerful if he's not lying. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I'm not certain on a hopeless lynch anymore I'd have to go back and do some re-reading if that becomes a thing. But Skanjab doesn't really have a reason for just dumping his prime scumread to start calling me scum without any case to speak of. Early D1 case that has been utterly debunked obviously doesn't count. | ||
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Skanjab1s
748 Posts
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Skanjab1s
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
1) Toad has done no scumhunting in this game. Toad even said himself that's true, here: On January 20 2014 04:45 Toadesstern wrote: yes that's the reason I didn't give too much of a crap to post decentish because I don't want to get shot by mafia nor roleblocked. There is absolutely no reason why you should not post decently if you are a town power role. Zero. Before his claim he argued he has done scumhunting but here he straight out claims against it. 2) Defends himself on N1 when he should be telling people who he thinks is mafia - there is no reason he pre-emptively defends himself to thrawn/me/kush. There is literally no reason to do that, especially if he is a town power role, which should "confirm" him as town. This whole thing makes no fucking sense from town perspective. 3) His thought process on "why is rayn not voting for Oats" is invalid as i pointed out. Later on he calls me mafia for thinking Vayne is blue and therefore i roleblocked him, he can't back that up with anything other than "i think so but i have no reasons to think so". He also uses Hopeless' theory to back that up but then he checked Hopeless on N1. It makes no sense to check Hopeless because regardless of Hopeless' claim's truthfulness he is not gonna die ever during the night. So he is using "Hopeless is town so i agree with his logic that rayn icould be scum" but he checks Hopeless because he thinks Hopeless is scum (that's the only reason he would check Hopeless for). He is contradicting himself. 4) He gives up when he thinks mafia is accusing him of being mafia. He is not trying to argue against the lynch, he is not trying to do anything, he just quits the game. Nothing, absolutely nothing Toad has said or done this game makes any sense from town perspective and that's why we should lynch him. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On January 21 2014 00:38 Sn0_Man wrote: After reading that little hate-fest and claim I understand toad even less than yesterday but I'm having a hard time calling him a good lynch. What kind of mafia fake-claims with like 2 votes on them and 12 hours to lynch? Right now Oats and Skanjab are looking scummiest, I'd like to lynch one of them. I promise this isn't pure OMGUS, but all Oats has done this last day is flame and discredit the shit outta rayn without actually trying to find scum. Then he's like "Lynch Sn0" without reasons simply cuz I'm not here to defend myself. Zero scumhunting or effort, just aiming for an easy target he can safely back off of once I'm back. lol are you not reading? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Because, like I (and others) said, when was the last time mafia fake-claimed with ~12 hours to lynch and ~2 votes on them? I mean, I'm more certain about Skanjab and Oats being scum, and leaving toad alive has the upside of him either absorbing mafia night actions or basically scumclaiming right? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
##vote sn0man | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 21 2014 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: 4) He gives up when he thinks mafia is accusing him of being mafia. He is not trying to argue against the lynch, he is not trying to do anything, he just quits the game. This is the point that really gets my goat, especially when earlier in the game when rayn was going to "throw the game" by letting us lynch him when kush flipped green, Toad was all for making a deal that didn't let rayn suicide etc etc. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On January 21 2014 01:17 Oatsmaster wrote: sn0man, where did your skan and oats read come from, you seemed to want to lynch Toad and hopeless day 1. You guys have both spend the entire game posting 1-line snipes that are pretty much dedicated to starting flame-wars and self-defense. Zero scumhunting. There's nothing to quote from your filters because there's nothing in them. Skanjab's day 1 case is the only thing worth mentioning and it's ridiculous garbage built on nothing day 1. Doesn't count as scumhunting, does count as trying to look good. You in particular oats, your main contributions were "huge flame war with thrawn" -> lurk "huge flame war with rayn". I fail to see how town!Oats does that exclusively instead of actually scumhunting. Your "lynch rayn" case boiled down to "he thinks i'm scum lol" no other reasons. Plus you dropped it in seconds as soon as I showed up. Toad I still don't get but I don't want to lynch uncountered cop claim see above. Hopeless does have a vet claim and his posts struck me as better going through the thread. If there's a serious push to lynch him as I mentioned I can go back and re-read his filter specifically. However, I don't feel the need to do that when you two are so clearly scum. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Toadesstern (4): Mig (0): Sn0_Man (2): Hopeless1der (0): raynpelikoneet (0): Skanjab1s (0): Not voting (4): some guys Toadesstern is currently set to be lynched. Day 2 ends in . | ||
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