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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:35 GMT
#1641
And you can't just WIFOM that "this dude was killed because scumwanted to set me up" as it's at least equally likely he was killed because he was right. All this added to in thread reasons why Toad and Oats are scum yeah, we should lynch Toad.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2014 19:36 GMT
#1642
##unvote
##vote: Toadesstern


/agreed. This is just desperate.
I had a good night of sleep.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 19:38 GMT
#1643
On January 20 2014 04:21 Koshi wrote:
If rayn is scum I am going to be really sad. Oo
imho he isn't. It doesn't make any sense. It feels like town rayn to me and the 2 guys that are dead.

Toad, why did Kush and thrawn die?


I guess mafia shot thrawn because he looked decently townish and him flipping green doesn't give us that much information. If they shot me you'd know that the people talking about me on n1 were wrong and you'd move on, at the same time you'd have the question of why they didn't just shoot rayn or mig, which if one of them is mafia is bad for them.
From my point of view and I know I'm town thrawn is a really good hit for mafia because it keeps us in this clusterfuck were rayn thinks I'm mafia.

My guess on Kush idk, could be anything at this point and depends on if it was a mafia hit or an SK hit. SK shoots that to keep confusion instead and perhaps like hopeless said to frame me while being somewhat certain mafia's not going to hit that. To avoid doublestacking.
Mafiahit seems unlikely as that'd mean they had 2 shots and they could have just shot rayn (assuming he is town like everyone thought at that point) or some other high caliber target if the said person is a dangerous.


TL;dr:
So if you think it was 2 mafia hits the logical conclusion can be either:

1) Mafia wants you to keep talking about me
2) Mafia doesn't mind rayn alive (assuming he is town like you seem to) and Mig because nothing they said is correct and they're not posing a threat to mafia, thus not feeling the need to shoot them.

If you think it was mafia + SK the SK wants confusion for sure. The fact that mafia (probably) went for thrawn makes me believe the same's true for mafia. I don't think they'd be shooting thrawn if they want to dodge possible medic protection.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:39 GMT
#1644
How can SK frame you as they would not know if you are mafia or not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:39 GMT
#1645
You just said maybe SK shot kush to frame me.. lol.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 19:39 GMT
#1646
On January 20 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 04:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
On January 19 2014 05:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 19 2014 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
im pretty drunk thrawn.
Oats is so scum.
So is Toad.
Who is third?


seems like an ok list. third maybe mig or skan? no idea really. i don't want to even think about hopeless anymore but my heart tells me he's town

all i can say with any confidence is kush/rayn/sn0 = town


I think this post is probably important, but dunno if scum expected me to see it or not. Could be setting them up or he could just be dead because this is mostly correct.

Mafia kills people who are on the right track. That's how it goes. Noone "sets up people" because then the people who are right just lynch you because they already think you are mafia.

If that's the case, why didn't they just shoot you?
On January 20 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How can SK frame you as they would not know if you are mafia or not?

Frame as in, set me up for lynch? You three were talking about my lynch after all.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 19:40 GMT
#1647
i think it is as simple as the last part nothing more. they just shot people that no one was really suspicious of that would not be protected. Nothing more really to be said. They did the same thing with their roleblock so I think it's an easy assumption to make that they were PR paranoid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:41 GMT
#1648
How the fuck can you even ask that as thrawn had same reads then i did?
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 19:42 GMT
#1649
On January 20 2014 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How the fuck can you even ask that as thrawn had same reads then i did?

So you think that thrawn and kush are both players that are better than you are. Good I'll remember that
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 19:43 GMT
#1650
toad you answered your own question, rayn isn't dead because of doc fear.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:44 GMT
#1651
On January 20 2014 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
i think it is as simple as the last part nothing more. they just shot people that no one was really suspicious of that would not be protected. Nothing more really to be said. They did the same thing with their roleblock so I think it's an easy assumption to make that they were PR paranoid.

Look there is basically no way Hopeless is mafia.
If Hopeless was fakeclaiming mafia must assume there is a medic, right?
Thrawn was the most likely medic target 100%. No sane mafia who assumes there is a medic in the game would shoot thrawn. thrawn getting shot implies mafia believes Hopeless' claim which makes him not mafia, and they made an educated guess that there is not a veteran and medic in the game. That's the only solution i can come up with for thrawn being shot. You know what happens when you just shoot the dude who is most towniest if there is medic in the game. You get no kill and you are fucked.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:45 GMT
#1652
On January 20 2014 04:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
toad you answered your own question, rayn isn't dead because of doc fear.

I don't get docced on N1 because people are always paranoid of me.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 19:45 GMT
#1653
actually screw this, there's no point in talking with this idiot.
Yes I'm the cop,
yes I checked hopeless n1,
yes I breadcrumbed it,
yes vayne ruined the breadcrumb,
yes that's threa reason I said rayn thinks vayne is blue because I strongly suspect him to have found something that looks a lot like a DT softclaim
yes that's the reason I kept talking about why vayne asked about the miller and wanted to hear his reasoning for that,
yes that's the reason I didn't give too much of a crap to post decentish because I don't want to get shot by mafia nor roleblocked.

See you in 28hours, I'm done with this bullshit
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:46 GMT
#1654
On January 20 2014 04:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How the fuck can you even ask that as thrawn had same reads then i did?

So you think that thrawn and kush are both players that are better than you are. Good I'll remember that

Fuck you make so stupid conclusions of people's posts you can't possibly be town.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 19:46 GMT
#1655
I have plenty more reasons then just that to believe hopeless is town, never wanted to lynch him
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:47 GMT
#1656
On January 20 2014 04:45 Toadesstern wrote:
actually screw this, there's no point in talking with this idiot.
Yes I'm the cop,
yes I checked hopeless n1,
yes I breadcrumbed it,
yes vayne ruined the breadcrumb,
yes that's threa reason I said rayn thinks vayne is blue because I strongly suspect him to have found something that looks a lot like a DT softclaim
yes that's the reason I kept talking about why vayne asked about the miller and wanted to hear his reasoning for that,
yes that's the reason I didn't give too much of a crap to post decentish because I don't want to get shot by mafia nor roleblocked.

See you in 28hours, I'm done with this bullshit

So why did you not check Sn0? After all he was your top scumread and Hopeless is a fucking dumb check.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 19:47 GMT
#1657
also, don't counterclaim if there are any other cops out there.
I come in for the scraps
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
January 19 2014 19:49 GMT
#1658
Why would you claim if there is probably no medic now you moron
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 19:50 GMT
#1659
On January 19 2014 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:
because all I see is:

Rayn: mentioned me about 10 times, but never really gave any explanation other than me disagreeing with him? He called me and hopeless useless but probably town, which was the most indetail explanation from him about me and after that just oh yeah, he mafia

thrawn: says I'm mafia for something that's so townie that rayn insta-voted mig when he thought mig was doing the opposite

kush: seems to think I'm mafia because... idk? everyone is mafia according to kush

and that's really all I found so far. Good job, this'll be the 2nd time ever to be lynched as town for me in 3 years of mafia on TL. Usually people aren't so dense and I really thought I'm way to obvious about it, but whatever, rayn even thinks vayne is town for the reason he should be thinking I am town, or so I presume?

This post makes absolutely zero sense especially if Toad is a cop, because if he is there is literally no reason he should even fear of getting lynched.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 19:50 GMT
#1660
its as I expected from our interactions, which is why I rescinded my SK read. I believe the claim btw
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