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On January 17 2014 00:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
All skan has done is post that stupid questionnaire and then opt out of discussion until everyone answers him he's so scummy #scumhunting.
Except I am literally participating in a massive debate here, and doing much more than posting shitty one-liners. Are you intentionally lying, or do you have reading problems?
On January 17 2014 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's selectively reading one's posts and twisting the facts to fit your case.
That's what it is, not scumhunting and figuring out one's alignment.
Now i am going to see if you were this stupid in Hogwarts game and if you were not you die.
I find it hilarious that you think you have the ability to get me lynched.
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Yes I was intentionally lying skan, see my followup post.
I find it hilarious you think rayn CANT get you lynched. Trololol
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Ugh.. this is gonna be really hard to figure out because Skanjab1s made a terrible terrible case on yamato in Hogwarts aswell.
As sad it is he could do this as town.. 
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On January 17 2014 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
That is the basic idea behind what rayn is saying you did skanjab. And here you are maintaining that your case is legit and sn0 is totes scum for joking about lynching the host when there were basically no posts in thread.
this.
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Even worse is the fact that Toad agrees with the case. I can't see how town!Toad could possibly agree with the case.
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On January 17 2014 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
That is the basic idea behind what rayn is saying you did skanjab. And here you are maintaining that your case is legit and sn0 is totes scum for joking about lynching the host when there were basically no posts in thread.
I don't think that's what rayn is saying I did, because to think I'm opting out of discussion is just silly. Also, I really hate when people strawman the case to one of its points and ignore the majority of the others to make me seem scummy/bad.
So, uhh, by the way, I think you're scum, too, hopeless.
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Please dont spam your wrongness rayn
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On January 17 2014 01:05 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
That is the basic idea behind what rayn is saying you did skanjab. And here you are maintaining that your case is legit and sn0 is totes scum for joking about lynching the host when there were basically no posts in thread. I don't think that's what rayn is saying I did, because to think I'm opting out of discussion is just silly. Also, I really hate when people strawman the case to one of its points and ignore the majority of the others to make me seem scummy/bad. So, uhh, by the way, I think you're scum, too, hopeless.
That is the fucking only point that even can be relevant in your case because other point is "Sn0 is scummy for joking 5min into the game".
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Oh wow, rayn, you actually think I'm opting out of discussion?
Really?
On January 17 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Ugh.. this is gonna be really hard to figure out because Skanjab1s made a terrible terrible case on yamato in Hogwarts aswell. As sad it is he could do this as town..
Making opening cases on people and then getting called scum for it is what I do, yo.
On January 17 2014 01:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes I was intentionally lying skan, see my followup post.
I find it hilarious you think rayn CANT get you lynched. Trololol
He can't. I mean, he's welcome to try, but it wont work.
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On January 17 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On January 17 2014 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
That is the basic idea behind what rayn is saying you did skanjab. And here you are maintaining that your case is legit and sn0 is totes scum for joking about lynching the host when there were basically no posts in thread. I don't think that's what rayn is saying I did, because to think I'm opting out of discussion is just silly. Also, I really hate when people strawman the case to one of its points and ignore the majority of the others to make me seem scummy/bad. So, uhh, by the way, I think you're scum, too, hopeless. That is the fucking only point that even can be relevant in your case because other point is "Sn0 is scummy for joking 5min into the game".
The only point that can be relevant to my case is "sno is scum for joking", because the other point is "sno is scum for joking".
What are you even saying, rayn?
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No skan, I'm saying my bullshit case on you is of the same calibre as your case on sn0. The level of bullshit is what rayn called out I.e. you can't use the word All and then leave out the points that don't support or directly contradict you.
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On January 17 2014 01:07 Skanjab1s wrote:Oh wow, rayn, you actually think I'm opting out of discussion? Really? Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Ugh.. this is gonna be really hard to figure out because Skanjab1s made a terrible terrible case on yamato in Hogwarts aswell. As sad it is he could do this as town.. Making opening cases on people and then getting called scum for it is what I do, yo.Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes I was intentionally lying skan, see my followup post.
I find it hilarious you think rayn CANT get you lynched. Trololol He can't. I mean, he's welcome to try, but it wont work.
This sounds a lot like "I intentionally made a worthless case cuz its my town meta and I gotta match that".
Which sounds a lot like scum :/
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On January 17 2014 01:08 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2014 01:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On January 17 2014 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
That is the basic idea behind what rayn is saying you did skanjab. And here you are maintaining that your case is legit and sn0 is totes scum for joking about lynching the host when there were basically no posts in thread. I don't think that's what rayn is saying I did, because to think I'm opting out of discussion is just silly. Also, I really hate when people strawman the case to one of its points and ignore the majority of the others to make me seem scummy/bad. So, uhh, by the way, I think you're scum, too, hopeless. That is the fucking only point that even can be relevant in your case because other point is "Sn0 is scummy for joking 5min into the game". The only point that can be relevant to my case is "sno is scum for joking", because the other point is "sno is scum for joking". What are you even saying, rayn?
You have 3 points in your case:
(1) Sno is joking 5min into the game, somehow this is scummy
(2) Sno calls out kushmasta, somehow this is scummy
(3) These contributions above are scummy because he is not really calling anyone scum (while he has in fact called Hopeless scum just a while ago).
The point (3) is the only one which can be even considered to be scummy (not contributing towards scumhunting) and even that point is totally incorrect given that Sn0 has made a post about why he thinks Hopeless is mafia and that posts was not wishy-washy at all.
So, what the fuck is your case about for real?
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On January 17 2014 01:10 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:07 Skanjab1s wrote:Oh wow, rayn, you actually think I'm opting out of discussion? Really? On January 17 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Ugh.. this is gonna be really hard to figure out because Skanjab1s made a terrible terrible case on yamato in Hogwarts aswell. As sad it is he could do this as town.. Making opening cases on people and then getting called scum for it is what I do, yo.On January 17 2014 01:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes I was intentionally lying skan, see my followup post.
I find it hilarious you think rayn CANT get you lynched. Trololol He can't. I mean, he's welcome to try, but it wont work. This sounds a lot like "I intentionally made a worthless case cuz its my town meta and I gotta match that". Which sounds a lot like scum :/
Because I have to match a town meta which nobody knows about, because nobody here has seen me play scum besides kush. Sure.
Nice try though, but I wasn't calling my case isn't worthless at all. It's totally legitimate.
On January 17 2014 01:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
No skan, I'm saying my bullshit case on you is of the same calibre as your case on sn0. The level of bullshit is what rayn called out I.e. you can't use the word All and then leave out the points that don't support or directly contradict you.
Oh okay, I get it now.
The misunderstand here is coming from the fact that you guys think I was using "all" to mean "every post he has made", when I was actually meaning "all the posts I've quoted here".
Regardless, his one post doesn't contradict my case, that's what you aren't getting. The fact that he made a single non-tentative post does not exclude his large number of tentative ones.
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On January 17 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:08 Skanjab1s wrote:On January 17 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2014 01:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On January 17 2014 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
That is the basic idea behind what rayn is saying you did skanjab. And here you are maintaining that your case is legit and sn0 is totes scum for joking about lynching the host when there were basically no posts in thread. I don't think that's what rayn is saying I did, because to think I'm opting out of discussion is just silly. Also, I really hate when people strawman the case to one of its points and ignore the majority of the others to make me seem scummy/bad. So, uhh, by the way, I think you're scum, too, hopeless. That is the fucking only point that even can be relevant in your case because other point is "Sn0 is scummy for joking 5min into the game". The only point that can be relevant to my case is "sno is scum for joking", because the other point is "sno is scum for joking". What are you even saying, rayn? You have 3 points in your case: (1) Sno is joking 5min into the game, somehow this is scummy (2) Sno calls out kushmasta, somehow this is scummy (3) These contributions above are scummy because he is not really calling anyone scum (while he has in fact called Hopeless scum just a while ago). The point (3) is the only one which can be even considered to be scummy (not contributing towards scumhunting) and even that point is totally incorrect given that Sn0 has made a post about why he thinks Hopeless is mafia and that posts was not wishy-washy at all. So, what the fuck is your case about for real?
I'm not going to debate your incorrect assumptions of what the points in my case are. I've explained exactly how point (1) and (2) are scummy, if you want to ignore this and instead over-simplify the points in my case to make them look silly, then that's your own problem.
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Well I was starting to think that you might have just been trying to get the thread moving and fishing for responses, which would be quite understandable, but instead it seems that you actually think I'm scum or something.
Jeeeeez.
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(1) His "let's lynch the host" thing, while being a joke, shows a deep lack of desire for actually wanting to find scum.
(2) His non-committal OMGUS onto kush's light accusations is scummy. He attempts to discredit kush to undermine is argument and divert the attention onto his accuser, which is inherently scummy.
(1) Bullshit. it's the first post in the game. how can Sn0 possibly be scumhunting in the first post in the game?
(2) Why is this? Do you think kush's accusation was worth answering and if so why is that? kush is the one who comes looking scummy for that argument because he is tryharding to make something out of nothing.
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On January 17 2014 01:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well I was starting to think that you might have just been trying to get the thread moving and fishing for responses, which would be quite understandable, but instead it seems that you actually think I'm scum or something.
Jeeeeez.
I can totes do both, baby.
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On January 17 2014 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +(1) His "let's lynch the host" thing, while being a joke, shows a deep lack of desire for actually wanting to find scum.
(2) His non-committal OMGUS onto kush's light accusations is scummy. He attempts to discredit kush to undermine is argument and divert the attention onto his accuser, which is inherently scummy. (1) Bullshit. it's the first post in the game. how can Sn0 possibly be scumhunting in the first post in the game? (2) Why is this? Do you think kush's accusation was worth answering and if so why is that? kush is the one who comes looking scummy for that argument because he is tryharding to make something out of nothing.
I've already explained #2 when you asked me to the first time.
(1) My first post of the game was a lovely scumhunting questionnaire. It's not that he wasn't trying to scumhunt, but rather, it felt like he didn't have any desire to scumhunt. There's a difference. Point 1 was a feelings-read that I tried to put into words to convey to you people, and obviously didn't do so well.
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On January 17 2014 00:04 Skanjab1s wrote:
Under that little pressure, (all kush said was "sn0s fluff seems awkward") I don't think town would react in this way.
Town is more likely to either (1) Ignore it, (2) ask for elaborations, or (3) omgus aggressively, depending on how the person plays. What Sn0 did was omgus very carefully, in a way that doesn't pressure or question kush, and doesn't help sn0 find out anything about kush's alignment.
Sn0 can you answer this?
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