Golden Sun: The Lost Age Mafia Djinn Edition

On May 17 2014 10:41 geript wrote:
Man this player list looks really sketch.

On May 17 2014 18:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
alright player list is updated for now.

It is 7 more to go, as I deleted some of the older sign ups. If they answer my PMs they will be readded, but for now 7 more.
If anybody is interested in cohosting I would take him, preferably US or Asia Timezones

On May 18 2014 17:54 ShiaoPi wrote:


I would prefer to have a full game first before finding co hosts, so you are on the list until the banlist says otherwise




yes like california among others.

On May 21 2014 06:30 Blazinghand wrote:
21385105 mod 32 is 17

##vote OdinofPergo

On May 21 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote:


^ against the idea of rng



no posts since first post that indicate that his opinion has changed other than his idea not working

contradiction?

On May 21 2014 09:48 Holyflare wrote:
actually think geript might be onto something with slam atm

On May 21 2014 09:52 kushm4sta wrote:


your response?

On May 21 2014 10:55 geript wrote:

I get it. I'm a douchebag. Get over it; you're more than happy to be a douchebag a number of times too. Where is my logic bad? Where am I wrong? I've give two very distinct and accurate reasons for why Slam is confirmed scum. You disagree with them somehow? No. You just think I'm a prick. Last I recall, saving you've gone through conversion therapy recently, you happen to like pricks. So let me ask you again. Why is Slam reading the thread? Why isn't Slam gaining over BH's ring pile of horse crap? Like Slam has literally cherished every random pile of crazy/wacky/insane BH has done from many old past games; this one he just simply +1's the rng mess??? Wtf. Seriously. Hell, even his response to me is all wrong. There's no playfulness in it. Like if he were town he would've posted something crazy like Nixon saying "I am not a crook." You think he associates himself with princess peach there at all? No way. You think he associates me with Star fox at all? No way. When he is town, his posts are not random. The associations he makes are subconscious but they are not random. Like there are tons of town ways he would respond to that. There are tons of town ways he would enter the thread or +1 the rng mess. He hasn't done any of those. What isn't to get?

On May 21 2014 10:58 Holyflare wrote:
the peach thing is because he plays peach in ssb btw

On May 21 2014 11:03 kushm4sta wrote:
I don't think the crux of getript's case on alakaslam is insulting. And I think it is a very accurate description of slam's meta.

On May 21 2014 09:16 geript wrote:
Like if we seriously don't lynch slam today I'm just going to shoot random people I think are town who didn't side with me so we can lynch him the next day. No way Town Slam enters the thread anything like that. No way Town Slam even bothers to read the thread before posting. Like lynch it with fire.

On May 21 2014 09:25 geript wrote:

There's a major difference in how Town slam plays from scum slam. Town Slam wants to enjoy himself and have fun despite the fact that he knows that he's not a great player and is often lynched for how he plays. Scum Slam wants at all costs to avoid being lynched because it's directly detrimental to his teammates because he's a player that already has no thread pull. So basically how Slam enters and stays in the thread, how he trolls and how he lacks trolling, how he sheeps specific people and where versus how he doesn't is alignment indicative. Town slam would just read the current page, come in, have fun and proceed back to read as necessary. Scum Slam needs to look like less of a crazy so he starts from the beginning. Like he's super EZPZ to read.

On May 21 2014 10:26 geript wrote:
Also for the record, Slam is the fox. Bye bye Marv.

On May 21 2014 11:27 layabout wrote:

why would you post this? you aren't attempting to justify calling geripts post scummy and the rest of the post is irrelevant bollocks and whinging. Why are you being so defensive?

On May 21 2014 11:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Slam, who do you think is mafia?

On May 21 2014 11:33 Steveling wrote:
I don't think this is favorable for town guys.
We need to talk more.

On May 21 2014 11:33 Steveling wrote:


SLAM you goofball, do you think BH and HF are scum?

On May 21 2014 11:36 Hapahauli wrote:


We don't need to talk more - we need to talk more constructively. We have so many posts, but so little of them are actually directed at scumhunting. Instead, people are perusing random selfish agendas instead of trying to push discussion.

/endrant

On May 21 2014 11:40 Steveling wrote:
Does Princess Peach hook up with Mario ever?

HF are you rly town?

On May 21 2014 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:


The problem with his post isn't necessarily that every little bit of info is terrible. The problem is the presentation and scope.

Firstly, it's almost designed to be the least efficient/effective way of communicating one's reads/information. When a townie finds someone suspicious, they are generally direct about it "I find <xxx> town, and <yyy> suspicious, for <zzz> reason." However this post is just a clusterfuck. His reads are buried in the middle of irrelevant banter, and hell he changes his mind on reads of the course of his post!

The post is not designed to be helpful - it's designed to be massive and showy. Ergo, he's trying to appear like he's contributing without actually contributing.

Secondly, the scope of the post is just a mess. He just finds random things in the thread that he doesn't agree with and is really snarky about them. That's a really common mafia tactic - to find a bunch of things to critique/shit-on in the thread. It gives the effect of making one appear to contribute, when in reality, nitpicking several posters is generally easy, creates paranoia, and serves no real constructive purpose to actually finding mafia.

On May 21 2014 14:43 Tehpoofter wrote:


IS geript right? Why is he wrong?

Do you have reads on Yellow? Hf/Steve? Austin aka ABBA? Cephs case on bunnies? Bunnies case on thrawn?

On May 21 2014 11:45 Cephiro wrote:
First up, the thoughts behind my questioning. While initially reading the thread I noticed 27ninja is a very cooperative person. Which is why I started the whole exchange with her.



She takes part in the discussion a lot and actively, aiming to contribute (or look like contributing.)



Her intention is to try and play as honestly as possible. Which again, is not a bad thing from a town perspective, but if you roll scum and try to play with the least amount of lies possible, it will be hard. The point of interest here is her admitting her annoyance to being called out on her play. She encourages others to share the reasons on hers, yet withholds her own for "reasons", are excused as:



While I definitely agree with the logic behind it, her reasoning doesn't seem sincere. It's as if she wants to put content into the thread, but avoid (for now), making any decisions that may come to haunt her play later. Specifically: She doesn't want to be read as scum. Obviously, no town player does, but her play is (even self-admittingly) aimed at not being read as scum. Even if you are read as scum as a townie, it doesn't mean you can't manage to prove your town-ness. Surely, it's an uphill battle, but for someone putting as much effort as her in the game seems unlikely to be _that_ scared of being a misread as a town. Rather, I feel the fear comes from other players correctly reading her as scum.

Analysis break: My questions, the reasons behind it, and my conclusions of her replies.



The first exchange. My question here aims at finding the natural level of her thought process. It may not be the best comparison, but think about chess. What I'm aiming to find here is whether she thinks about:

1) The current move
2) The reasons behind the current move
3) The follow-up to the current move

Or a multitude of the above. As you can see, she instantly jumps into an assumption that I vote her because I read her as mafia. She doesn't take her thought process further (into different possibilities), into questions such as:

"Would he vote for me for a reason other than suspecting me as mafia?"

Instead, she takes it for granted that I suspect her to be mafia. It fits well with her wanting to play as honestly as possible, trying not to doubt the claims of others. This I feel is a trait belonging to the person.

So here I establish the fact that she doesn't think things ahead. Her thought process is not zero though, but considering the current step with the information given to her comes more naturally. (There are people who naturally start thinking multiple steps ahead.)



Here is my followup. My question is intentionally aimed to hint at a possibility of thinking outside the box. As I came into the conclusion that she doesn't naturally by instinct start thinking things too many steps ahead, I wanted to see the reaction that would come after hinted towards doing such.

Her response is quite interesting. She does correctly analyze on scenario, that is, if I didn't have a proper read and wanted to gain more information on her. There are many others she does not think about however. What I'm most interested in, is this crucial miss: She does not at all consider a possibility where I am scum. Ding ding, alarm bells anyone?

Note how she points out that if I don't really consider her as mafia, I shouldn't be voting for her. Yet at the end of her post, she asks why I'm reading her as mafia. This means that she thinks (knows?) of me being a town player suspecting her, rather than any other possibility. Why could I not be a scum player trying to start a wagon on her? She doesn't even go through this option at all, even after being hinted to think outside the box. It's as if she knows I'm town. That's not possible unless she's scum.

On to my third question:



This question was mainly to confirm. I was fairly certain that she does not intentionally downplay her ability to mislead her opponent. Combined with the logical deduction of her naturally not thinking ahead, and with her honest tendency to answer questions, I have no reason to believe she'd be lying about this one either. It would be possible to downplay or not reveal your scumread to try and trap a person into a situation which essentially confirms them as scum to other players, or many shenanigans of the kind. Her response however is strictly related to her own confidence about her read. If she's sure about her read, she'll go for it (no downplaying). If she's unsure, she'll work to be able to trust her read enough to convince others. (Upping her own play.)

With this I come into the conclusion that she is not downplaying her abilities when responding to others, or in any questions that she replied to me. This is exactly why I consider the 2nd question where she does NOT EVEN CONSIDER ME AS POSSIBLE SCUM extremely alarming. Also take in consideration how interested in she is in the reasons why I suspect her to be mafia. She doesn't just ignore and wait for me to actually provide something, but she actively asks for it again and again. If not combined with the above, I would see this as a townie trait, but I feel she is trying to get to know her mistakes/flaws in early play so she doesn't make the same mistakes later on.

TLDR:

1) Is afraid of being seen as scum
2) Extremely co-operative due to not wanting to be looked upon badly, refer to point 1.
3) Ignores the possibility of the player questioning her being scum.
4) When suspected, wants to know the flaws in her play to not repeat the mistake later

Like literally, for one moment she doesn't think I could be scum trying to push her for mislynch.

27ninjabunnies is mafia, and needs to be lynched. My vote stays where it is.

Opinions?

On May 21 2014 14:49 Tehpoofter wrote:



KK can you answer the other stuff if you're reading

On May 21 2014 12:04 Cephiro wrote:


I have no idea because I rolled town, but I would assume that the goals of the multiple factions do not overlap, at least not by much. It is also not certain that all of the 4 other factions are pro-scum, but it is likely there is more than one. I think it's very possible for there to be a pro-town faction, or some sort of win with town faction.

In any case, let's assume a case where we'd both be scum.

1) We're in the same faction
---> Why would we intentionally make her respond badly to a bus case?
2) We're in a different faction (and do not know each other)
---> She knows for sure I am not in the same faction as her, proving my point about her reaction.
3) We're in a different faction (and know each other??)
---> Highly unlikely to be a case, refer to point 1. Why would we intentionally make her response look bad in a bus case this early on?

I may be missing something, but I can't see a situation where us both being scum makes sense. Well, for #2 it slightly does, but even if you think I'm scum trying to get another scum killed, you should be happy for that as town.

Of course, there is a possibility she is also town, but currently I don't believe that to be the case based on her reactions.

Lynch her.

On May 21 2014 14:57 Tehpoofter wrote:
Thats the most words i've ever seen in a slam post... it was all a quotes but still.

On May 21 2014 12:18 austinmcc wrote:
For confused non-brits, hula hoops are these I assume:



and not these

On May 21 2014 15:07 geript wrote:
Maybe I should just shoot BKQ on the off chance that it's Yamato. Man I'm so sad Yamato isn't playing this game right now.

On May 21 2014 12:23 mtamburini wrote:


Out of all the things you read you mention the thing that was just recently brought up about me by the person questioning you?

Thats so scummy brah

On May 21 2014 12:25 Holyflare wrote:
austin had it, they're just salty ring shaped crisps(chips fu amerifags)

On May 21 2014 12:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
Going to throw out some of my reads so far this game I'd like to see where others stand as well.

Town Hero: Tehpoofter

Townies: Hapa, BlueyD, HF, Steve, Bunnies, Geript

Scum: Yellow, BKQ, Valenius, layabout

People Geript Should shoot: Slam

People Geript Shouldn't shoot: MarvelloCity

3rd Parties:

Crazy MAn who wins by screaming and passing out the most fliers to his RNG party: Blazinghand

Lazy People that need to do more: Marv, Koshi

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 21 2014 14:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Well, Tamburini is a girl, too.

Also, did you know that lynching/killing a girl in online games is considered rape?

Cause you are overpowering them.

Confirmed don't rape me this game guys.

On May 21 2014 14:15 Tehpoofter wrote:



This is why I think you should shoot him. Cause he will just be lynched ez mode either way. I can't read him so I'm not reading him and there is a large chunk of people that haven't played with him I think. And you have to admit the Slam "meta" is far different than ANYONE else.

On May 21 2014 15:48 geript wrote:
Slam are you high right now?

On May 21 2014 16:02 mattisfoolish wrote:


I feel he's town off of this post:

I'm not really sure how to explain it. I guess it felt like a genuine town reaction.

Outside of that though I feel like he's bringing up some good points that nobody else has. Any new information comes from townies.

--Foolishness

On May 22 2014 06:03 Holyflare wrote:


oh yeh, why is ritoky in your list?

austin i would probably lynch today if push came to shove wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much focus on this bh rng thing even though he's claimed blue

On May 22 2014 06:13 Blazinghand wrote:


No, I totally get that. People vastly underestimate the value of post-RNG lynch analysis. Think of it as a contrapositive to the zephirdd rule. It's got the same backbone of solid reasoning but the same honey-laced exterior that draws bad attacks. Wagon development for an RNG lynch doesn't need to be pure RNG. I'm sure there's plenty of people who want to lynch Odin now for reasons unrelated to RNG. When he gets lynched, some of them will mention or not mention RNG, and that gives us info. I'd go into more detail but I don't want to ruin it. Surely you can see what I see here, right?

On May 22 2014 06:13 Blazinghand wrote:


No, I totally get that. People vastly underestimate the value of post-RNG lynch analysis. Think of it as a contrapositive to the zephirdd rule. It's got the same backbone of solid reasoning but the same honey-laced exterior that draws bad attacks. Wagon development for an RNG lynch doesn't need to be pure RNG. I'm sure there's plenty of people who want to lynch Odin now for reasons unrelated to RNG. When he gets lynched, some of them will mention or not mention RNG, and that gives us info. I'd go into more detail but I don't want to ruin it. Surely you can see what I see here, right?

On May 22 2014 06:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Just got off of work!!!

Read a bit through the forum while I was working, but going to quickly reread it again, so it'll be about 15-20mins to look through everything. If there is anything you want me to focus on, let me know.

Also, BH. Wtf? You claim a BLUE role when only 3 votes on you?
How...stupid... is .... that....

On May 22 2014 07:07 Hapahauli wrote:


Gealwkefjalskdjfawef why do people keep calling him "she"?

On May 22 2014 07:15 Koshi wrote:
GOOD JOB ALAKASLAM!

On May 22 2014 07:17 geript wrote:
Slam... Think about Scumeling and answer me my questions three mmmK.

1. On a scale of 4 to 36, how much scooby doo are you? 11.65678839
2. If you were forced into having a threesome, which two celebrities would you choose? Taylor Swift and Emma Stone? Y? This random
3. Beets or Brussel sprouts? Beets. But I like both

On May 22 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:

You stopped being marv his secret sex buddy.

On May 22 2014 07:23 marvellosity wrote:
I also love "forced" into having a threesome.

This reveals things about geript, I feel.

On May 22 2014 07:23 austinmcc wrote:
Also have I professed my love of beets here? Or did you just randomly pick one of my favorite vegetables/foods.

Everyone should go roast some beets and put some ginger/scallions/oil on em.

On May 22 2014 07:26 geript wrote:
Your return does not make my peepee hard Slam. I'm very unconvinced.

On May 22 2014 17:31 Koshi wrote:

YOU ARE ME!

teraG

On May 22 2014 17:35 geript wrote:

Don't know. You two 3P lovers?

On May 23 2014 00:45 mtamburini wrote:
Fuck me i gotta read 50 pages since I was last online how the fuck did I get put up for a lynch!

On May 23 2014 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:


My read on him is sorta weird. Normally I'd read these antics by BH (Claiming Issac, Obsessed with RNG lynch, Stubborn Uselessness, etc) as townie. It's a sign he doesn't care much for his reputation, he's not pushing any visible objectives (which he does as mafia), and I've seem him do similar things in many of his town games (and none of his mafia games).

While I'd read him as town in a more traditional setup, this really isn't one. I can see BH's behavior as being part of one of various factions, and I wouldn't mind seeing him dispatched with a bullet tonight.

On May 23 2014 01:16 mtamburini wrote:


I wont finish 70 pages of thread in 4 hours

On May 23 2014 01:12 mtamburini wrote:


They just claimed Blue without a specific role?

I would be more inclined to think BH would be more likely a role candidate and alakaslam trying to save his ass from ebing shot by geript LOL.

To comment on BH behaviour early game being all aggro and yelling and shit wiht the RNG. He sees himself in a godlike light which shows a lot of confidence in his abilities to scumhunt and win games as either allignemnt. His play reminds me of a mafia game I played on another site where I went super aggro and did the exact same thing he did (except I did not use RNG I used some other bs technique to get conversation started and start building connections) and I also was a Blue role.

On May 23 2014 01:18 Hapahauli wrote:


Cool - go ahead and tell me that reason.

On May 23 2014 01:18 geript wrote:

The lady doth protest too much.

On May 23 2014 01:52 bkqyrldp wrote:
Can you cite the last time a person like that flipped mafia? He even blatantly states he will play his trademark lazy town and indeed does absolutely nothing afterwards, not even pretense.

On May 23 2014 06:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
LET IT GOOO LET IT GOOOO.

I'm currently watching frozen. Yes, I know. Not even relevant to this game.

On another note, the bandwagon onto odin was indeed weird.

The vote tehpoofter was weird as well.

I'm going to read through the filters of those that voted on odin (mostly the ones who switched)

On May 23 2014 08:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

I can play level 2 also!
I win.

On May 23 2014 08:19 Steveling wrote:


1. I don't know what you understood but that's what I meant.
That they are toying with the idea of Odin being scum, the reasons don't matter.

2.Are you inside his head? I don't think so unless you share a qt. He said bh is crazy, that equals bad in my book.
Stop projecting your own opinions upon other people.
Marvel himself said that bh was crazy, he also dismissed a vote switch on val as non persuasive enough.
Logic as to why he sheep'd bh over sqrt=none.

3.I pointed it out because he had actually voted him earlier.

4.She/he/it wasn't for a long time though.

On May 23 2014 08:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

How old is she?

On May 23 2014 08:49 27ninjabunnies wrote:


*cough*

Whatcha talking about, Willis?

On May 23 2014 08:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:


why what?

On May 23 2014 08:51 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

Why Hapa? Why Marv?

On May 23 2014 08:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Am I learning the real names of people right now?

On May 23 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:


What?

On May 23 2014 09:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:


And what you think steveling is doing then?

On May 23 2014 09:02 Holyflare wrote:


do you think they couldn't be doing that as scum in a 4 faction game?

On May 23 2014 11:10 Blazinghand wrote:
oh man, wrong image after all that effort editing it fuuuu

On May 23 2014 16:06 Steveling wrote:
sleepy time

On May 23 2014 16:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
why do you care slam

On May 23 2014 16:47 OnceKing wrote:
I mean he's definitely a mole of epic proportions here, haven't seen what would make him scum
guess I'll check through his filter and stuff when I wake up
in the meantime can I get you to read through kita's stuff? Maybe you could have a more meta perspective on him but he feels really timid and not pushy at all with his reads this game which I don't like

On May 24 2014 00:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Slam - if you're around, talk to me about the lynch yesterday. You seemed to be active the hours leading up to deadline, and you had your vote on Odin. Yet I can't find anywhere in your filter that you thought Odin was suspicious. The only mentions of Odin in your filter are towards the beginning (RNG lynch stuff).

Sticking with the RNG lynch all day (despite being quite active in thread) does not look very good.

On May 23 2014 16:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
why do you care slam

On May 24 2014 01:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

BlueyD falls into this category as well.

On May 24 2014 01:40 BlueyD wrote:
Meh, a few strange things in thrawn's filter (talks about "tambo" being lynchable then asks "who is tambo?" 3 posts down, zero explanation on switch to Odin but it's probably just BH's case) but nothing I feel I can build a case on. The early stuff is just thrawn being thrawn. Nullish read.

Slam why do you say Yellow is incredibly trusting? Cuz he puts his trust in BH's RNG lynch before a case is even made, even though he has some scumreads? Isn't that your case as well?

On May 24 2014 02:04 Koshi wrote:

It helps if you give reasoning. Otherwise people just ignore what you say.

This is not the Ver way of posting Alakaslam.

On May 24 2014 02:36 layabout wrote:
not reading any more of alakaslam po..

hang on i wasn't anyway

On May 24 2014 02:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm, that's a good point. Should I be more suspicious of people who voted Odin at the start for reasons entirely based on RNG or should I be more suspicious of people who voted him after I wrote my case?

I think it depends on what the person did after voting him, if they did in fact vote him early for rng reasons. There are people who voted him, then went to use their votes in other ways. I'm gonna talk about Yell0w, who was my most steadfast RNG supporter throughout D1

at first, yell0w had a different idea for how rng ought to work.



This thinking is so obviously and blatantly incorrect I'd be somewhat surprised if he was scum. Scum would care a lot about how they appear, and making a statement like this shows a certain amount of "I didn't consult with anyone before posting this thought" that makes me think he's not in a scum QT. It's possible he just made this post without the help of teammates, but I feel like he'd be advised to back off of it at the very least.

He then throws in his towel with me:




and then he jsut has conversational posts. His next major post is 12+ hours later:



and is mostly a defensie post. he/she follows it up though with this post full of reads. Exerpted it from it:




And, when the lynch comes down to RNG vs his scumread, he's nowhere to be found. He disappears and never has to weigh in on whether he'd rather lynch RNG or his scumread, and has not returned since then, even though judging by when he's usually active he should have posted right now. Even better, the lynch has already happened so he can just say what's convenient for him. So yeah I'd say pretty good chance he's scum.

Man all this filter diving is lame, I kinda want to just wait and see if I get shot THEN do all the work but if I do get shot how will you guys win unless I leave something behind? As the only competent townie I have a responsibility to lead, even from the grave.

On May 24 2014 03:00 Steveling wrote:
Well there's a reason that new guys run away screaming after a couple games here.

On May 24 2014 03:04 marvellosity wrote:
I just deleted 3 different sarcastic yet slightly hilarious responses to Steve. I feel so virtuous.

On May 24 2014 03:12 Steveling wrote:
You guys keep refusing to play this game.

BH's filter consists of the rng thing, a ridiculous case on his poor sod towny rng target and basically him being satisfied with himself that he managed to pull off the rng thing.

tis all

Until you actually contribute I think I'll ignore your silly jabs.

On May 24 2014 03:21 kitaman27 wrote:
In all likelihood, I won't be available until after the deadline tonight. If I survive, I'll try to put together a larger post than what I've been able to produce so far.

Just remember my mafia friends, in multi-faction game historically, the faction that focused their night hits on the opposing faction were far more likely to win than those that prioritized mafia shots. I think it was something crazy like 9/10 last time I looked. The reason for this is that the top priority should be to eliminate the rival mafia kp. The town lynch cannot be eliminated until all town members are dead, but the mafia factional kp can be removed by killing off a much smaller group of players. Additionally, you can save yourself from a lynch by talking your way out, but you can't deal with a bullet that you don't know about. The opposing mafia faction can manipulate the vote based on their additional knowledge, which is much more of a threat than town, which is in the dark. Finally, claiming a scum shoot is a free pass to get out of jail if you get in trouble during the following cycle. The only time you want to start shooting obvious townies is a scenario where the mafia factions need to work together at like 8/1/1 or something.

The reason that I was looking for Heart/Spade posts is that I am somewhat paranoid about a multi-faction scum team that wins together, but is not aware of each others identities. As a result, they may need to breadcrumb their identities to the other half. Something to keep in mind at least.

On May 24 2014 03:25 layabout wrote:
That case on y3llow is horrific and i would normally call it pretty scummy tbh. Being absent during the last 3 hours of the day (which is when the odin wagon started in earnest) is not something that we can necessarily infer things from because we have no way of knowing if the absence is legitimate. That's a narrative, a few quotes and no argument with some added complaining about doing work for the thread.

On May 24 2014 03:29 Steveling wrote:


You can be dicks all you want.
I'm too.
But the whole vet thing is just silly and a cancerous limb that needs to be cut off.

On May 24 2014 03:33 Blazinghand wrote:


Also as a slight note on that metaphor, typically amputation is like a big nono for cancerous limbs due to weird cancery science things. That's not to say that a surgical solution is all bad, but given that cancer can metastasise and that removal of a larger tumor causes smaller tumors to grow, lopping off a limb is pretty dangerous.

An ideal solution is probably some kind of surgery where just the tumor is removed, coupled with chemotherapy and radiation to kill whatever's left and also anything else in the body. This leads to the best patient health outcomes.

On May 24 2014 03:40 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I still dont like Thrawn.

On May 24 2014 03:43 Blazinghand wrote:


fair enough. Let's talk about mtamb. I don't have a strong read on him, since I haven't paid attention to him all day, but he was being highly annoying around the deadline th eother day. I'd gain great pleasure from lynching him. What do you think?

On May 24 2014 03:49 Steveling wrote:


Is this double negative intended? xD

On May 24 2014 03:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:


So why thrawn? What's your reasoning on him?

On May 24 2014 04:04 Blazinghand wrote:
"two of one instead of one of two" -- what did they do? is why not the comedy in the pan

On May 24 2014 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:
It's not a fucking falsified read goddamnit. Just because I don't have time to post my justifications for a vote swap FROM FUCKING I-90 doesn't mean that I don't have justifications.

On May 24 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
Not sure if the mod is being flavourful but didn't someone mention something about being electric and then someone got electrocuted?

On May 24 2014 05:14 Steveling wrote:
Guys, thought on BH burning meapak?

The playful tone of the flavor suggests his 3rd party Djinni.

On May 24 2014 05:23 Blazinghand wrote:
There's 4 kinds of djinni, lined up with the 4 elements (air is lightning) of classical yore. Each djinni is a scum faction. We're people fighting against them. seems straightforward to me.

Also is steveling suggesting that I'm scum based on the fact that my name hs "blazing" in it?

On May 24 2014 05:28 Blazinghand wrote:
Don't worry guys, I won't reveal my role unless it's necessary to save my life. My role is such that I can't reveal it without making it substantially less useful going forward, assuming scum has certain roles/powers.

On May 24 2014 05:26 Steveling wrote:
BlazingHand the only way I'll take you seriously and anyone else for that matter, is if you reveal your role.
Its high time I think by now.

Same goes for slam.

On May 24 2014 05:33 Steveling wrote:


Slam+BH 3rd party confirmed.
Ironically enough considering BH's name they are the fire djinnies.

##bote: Blazinghand

On May 24 2014 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:


wouldn't this actually be "fitting" rather than "ironic"? It would be ironic if my name was like, frostinghand. but instead it's literally the opposite of that.

On May 24 2014 05:45 layabout wrote:

"Yo guys i claimed vig day 1 i had time to make a 12 page filter but i didn't have time to find a lurker, a spammer, read posts about who to vig shot or have a single scum read. I tunneled steveling to the point of spamming the thread accusing him of being scum but i didn't shoot him either. Furthermore i didn't use my bullet since I didn't expect to be roleblocked or shot by mafia"

On May 24 2014 05:51 Steveling wrote:
I don't like how BH was the first to clearly speak about the setting after all these kills happened.
Seems like he's one of them djinnis.

But then why did he claimed isaac?
But then why is scummy slam sheeping him?

It all rests in the isaac role and I'm willing to take the risk of unveiling a good town role too early than him being scum surviving until late game abusing his semi-claim.

On May 24 2014 06:16 mtamburini wrote:


I dont get it do you think Im scummy for that or towny?

On May 24 2014 06:35 Blazinghand wrote:


assuming recruiting is in fact what being controlled by a djinn means, the amount of stupid I would have to be to even hint that such a thing was possible right after being recruited is astronomical. Surely you can't be serious.

On May 24 2014 06:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
lets lynch BH for obviously getting recruited N1

On May 24 2014 06:49 Steveling wrote:
BH, calm and serene. Pls.
Can you answer why you revealed your role d1 if you knew beforehand that your role can be recruited?
Do you think we can trust you now?

On May 24 2014 07:12 BlueyD wrote:
Hey Slam, what do you think about BH's claim?

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Also Hapa I like your cases much more than austin's case on you. Agree with lynching burini or yellow.

What do you think of cav?

Ashamed of myself I didn't catch the fact that yellow had scumreads and wasn't voting for them, blegh. Though you don't seem to have caught that until way after he made that post with reads in it, like you still had your vote on Val for a while after that. Any explanation on that delay?

On May 24 2014 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
Not if the Isaac-controller-thing-player is lynched?

On May 24 2014 07:21 Steveling wrote:
Which present us with a dilemma.
We know BH is Isaac, we know he can be controlled.
Do we lynch him before they use his power?

On May 24 2014 07:20 BlueyD wrote:
Mostly Slam

On May 24 2014 08:37 Cavalinho wrote:
Yeah I'm voting kush, let's go.

Sheep Foolishness you fools.

On May 24 2014 10:57 Holyflare wrote:
Oh reread it, so they are immune to being controlled but we aren't. Why does it contain bh's name in slams pm though? Also, marv said some weird thing about bh and himself being confirmed to each other which was super weird.

The bk kill is highly highlyyy likely to come from marv/hapa/kita/foolishness/austin though so I'm pretty confident there is one mafia there.

On May 24 2014 11:52 Blazinghand wrote:

Lol I give you benefit of doubt and and call and call u scum

I go 63 ugly 49 vote u later when I have comp

On May 24 2014 14:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Steve if you sat nothing for 48 hours plz

On May 24 2014 14:52 Steveling wrote:
Slam do you wanna say to me what's going on?
I'm your best friend here.

On May 24 2014 14:53 Alakaslam wrote:

Hijole

On May 24 2014 14:54 Steveling wrote:
Does that mean you don't love me or you don't trust me?

On May 24 2014 14:57 Alakaslam wrote:




It means this is a ninja

"HIJOLE" is a Mexican slur, it means literally "son of" but is used as "holy shit"

On May 24 2014 15:02 Steveling wrote:
If you rly think I'm a svengali I will stop playing right here and now.

On May 24 2014 15:14 geript wrote:
BH I would like to point out that if I had a vendetta against you, I would just egged Scumeling on towards you as much as I could.

On May 25 2014 00:59 Yell0w wrote:


But I'm not complaining at them because they don't have an opinion, I'm "bitching" because, while not having an opinion on the person, they voted against him. I don't think the case is that great, that's my reason not to lynch him, I think we have better candidates.

On May 25 2014 03:16 austinmcc wrote:
Does the above make sense to you though? It's more about Foolishness and him saying, all within one post,

Kush is known for giving zero fucks
Townies try to solve the problem (i.e. give fucks), scum do not
Kush is not trying to solve the problem
That's not okay and points towards being mafia

I'll look more into thrawn, poking around yellow right now.

On May 25 2014 10:18 layabout wrote:
oh ive been waiting on valenius too

TAKE NOTE:
marv said that he and BH were confirmed town to each other but i cannot for the life of me find BH agreeing with this which should have been a priority of his the moment he saw that marv had written it. If they are confirmed to each other regardless of whether if helps us now we need to know it before one of them flips. It would leave us exposed to a flip manipulating role but since it's alignment flip it would be a ridiculous level of host setup bullshit for such a role o be there.

On May 25 2014 14:29 Steveling wrote:


He can be controlled.
He's 3rd faction with slam.

I'm guessing slam recruited him.

On May 25 2014 14:33 marvellosity wrote:

he may be a different faction (not sure about that though) but i don't think Slam recruited him. I dunno when that was supposed to occur, I assume things can't just happen instantly and they were doing their little dance really early

On May 25 2014 14:37 Steveling wrote:
I will try to force you to reveal your roles.
To us townies doesn't matter if you win or not because you are playing antitown anyway bh/slam.

So, reveal your roles and I will protect you.
I can also throw my casks at any person of my choice and guard them from the next kp against them.
That's why I have 4 of them.

On May 25 2014 14:42 Steveling wrote:
HF help me here.
You know these people better than me.
Slam recruited bh cause he likes him, what other "friendships patterns" do you see among the others?
Read the player list and report back.

On May 25 2014 14:43 austinmcc wrote:
I don't want to answer this one at this time, #mindgames

On May 25 2014 14:43 Steveling wrote:
Stay away perv.

On May 25 2014 15:32 kushm4sta wrote:
austin if you were red in this scenario, what would you do?

On May 25 2014 15:35 kushm4sta wrote:
##shoot slam
i unleash the power of dayvig upon you cause im tired of your cryptic shit