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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2014 22:06 GMT
#2694
if by some miracle i'm alive? so you expect me to get shot by scum, yet you also want to lynch me?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2014 22:26 GMT
#2708
On May 23 2014 07:12 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 07:04 geript wrote:
It's funny, like I saw what BH was doing. Wait for wagon to fall apart, present case that no one will read, lynch for no reason.if by some miracle that BH is alive tomorrow, we lynch him. Perhaps someone will shoot him tonight, perhaps someone won't but meds shouldn't be given to him.


Why are you so against BH this game, Geript?


I forget, some of the people here are relatively new to TL, even the people experienced elsewhere may not know our particular things. Geript kinda has a "thing" for me, and by "thing" I mean "deep-seated, intense hatred"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2014 23:30 GMT
#2747
On May 23 2014 08:24 geript wrote:
BH. If you want to live through the night then you will provide analysis on the players that blindly sheeped your RNG, the players that soft pushed your RNG and the players which wholly ignored your RNG.


So what your'e saying is, you have actually no idea whether or not I'm scum, for all your bluster and yelling. Very cool g-man.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 22 2014 23:31 GMT
#2748
Anyone who's as sure I'm scum as geript claims to be would just shut up and submit his night shot. Silly geript.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 01:04 GMT
#2802
On May 23 2014 10:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 09:57 geript wrote:
I'll look at your stuff after work Scumeling. Maybe I won't shoot you for lulz.


you shouldn't shoot him.


I'd be pretty surprised if geript was a vigi
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 01:20 GMT
#2806
On May 23 2014 10:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 10:04 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 23 2014 10:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2014 09:57 geript wrote:
I'll look at your stuff after work Scumeling. Maybe I won't shoot you for lulz.


you shouldn't shoot him.


I'd be pretty surprised if geript was a vigi

Well on the off chance he is....

You're right, I better goad him more.

Geript, you're a meanyhead and a sillyhead!!!!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 01:27 GMT
#2809
On May 23 2014 10:23 geript wrote:
Like BH I really don't get why you don't want to do the analysis you promised. I don't see any town motivation for that. I also don't get why I'm somewhat hesitant to shoot you after rigging the vote to lynch you in Aperture.


Gerry boy I'm gonna do whatever I want based entirely on my own motivations. The only motivations I have are:

1. hunt scum
2. yank g-dawg's chain

so if I can just write my analysis now and post it later, but in the mean time make you really salty, why not? everyone wins. the night is young, big G. take a chill pill and wave your fake gun somewhere else.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 01:28 GMT
#2810
well, everyone wins except geript I guess, but that's sorta the point, isn't it?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 01:32 GMT
#2812
On May 23 2014 10:30 geript wrote:
Do your scum hunt thang then billy gene. Regardless, if you do nothing odds are you die.


hah, if you really think you can lynch me, if you think it will be so easy, why even bother shooting me? It's always funny watching you play, geript, you're like a dog that thinks it's off its chain but hasn't run to the length of it yet
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 02:08 GMT
#2824
In case anyone is confused about what Geript is trying to do here with his so-called gun I will make it absolutely clear

[image loading]

I don't negotiate with terrorists. period.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 02:10 GMT
#2825
oh man, wrong image after all that effort editing it fuuuu

[image loading]
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 17:58 GMT
#2936
Hmm, that's a good point. Should I be more suspicious of people who voted Odin at the start for reasons entirely based on RNG or should I be more suspicious of people who voted him after I wrote my case?

I think it depends on what the person did after voting him, if they did in fact vote him early for rng reasons. There are people who voted him, then went to use their votes in other ways. I'm gonna talk about Yell0w, who was my most steadfast RNG supporter throughout D1

at first, yell0w had a different idea for how rng ought to work.

On May 21 2014 07:04 Yell0w wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:57 Xatalos wrote:
If most players randomed their votes separately, it would just end up with scum getting to choose their preferred lynch. LMAO


I disagree, if most people randomed their votes, the ones who didn't would instantly look scummy and we could lynch them tomorrow. Everyone would RNG their votes if most people did it, because they'd know how bad it would make them look otherwise.


This thinking is so obviously and blatantly incorrect I'd be somewhat surprised if he was scum. Scum would care a lot about how they appear, and making a statement like this shows a certain amount of "I didn't consult with anyone before posting this thought" that makes me think he's not in a scum QT. It's possible he just made this post without the help of teammates, but I feel like he'd be advised to back off of it at the very least.

He then throws in his towel with me:


On May 21 2014 08:55 Yell0w wrote:
Okay so I'm behind an RNG lynch, I understand my idea wouldn't work since people don't want to random their vote and if most don't do it it'll never work, so I'll just vote Odin. I was willing to wait for people to say why they were against it, but nobody gave a good reason not to do it, in my opinion.

##Vote: OdinofPergo


and then he jsut has conversational posts. His next major post is 12+ hours later:

On May 21 2014 22:48 Yell0w wrote:
So I'm going to go ahead and explain my actions since some people want to lynch me, I'm gonna answer poofter's accusation first:

Show nested quote +
@Sqrt Look at what Yellow has said since then. Hes super on board with the random lynch and gives up on his idea. He throws dirt on Steve when someone comes in and tells him to stop shitting up the thread (I think steve is town so no on that) + Show Spoiler + This screams of TMI like how do you know there are multiple scum factions could be town + scum + third party shenanigans?


@yellow I voted you because of the above and other minor interjections where you're saying "wow that looks scummy of you" basically nudging a wagon into happening instead of actually pressuring someone with voting and a case sounds more like you're pointing people to be like "hey look boys X did something scummy what do we do?" like a not get your hands dirty type of play.


So first of all, I don't get how thinking a random lynch is a good idea is in way alignment indicative and I still think Steve is probably town, but his play has been very anti-town, talking a lot and saying absolutely nothing except that HF was mafia for no reasons. This whole me thinking there are multiple scum factions is kind of a silly argument, I just think it's the most likely scenario, don't see how that makes me scum. As far as I know, most possible 3rd party roles are anti town, so they're scum. Hm, I guess if I am a 3rd party anti-town myself I would know there are at least one other scum faction, maybe the argument isn't as silly as I first thought.

I think the second part refers to what I said about Slam, I just thought him acting the way someone said he does when he's town is something a scum player would do, I don't know what was wrong with me pointing it out. I don't know if he is scum or not, clearly others know him and know how to read him, so I'm going to let them read him because I certainly have no idea.

And the other person who voted against me was BlueyD, he said:

Show nested quote +
Yellow’s is just...
-a lot of rng discussion with very few reads,
-that switch from “BH’s method doesn’t work well” to “okay let’s do it”, and the general fact he’s for rng lynch
-mentions the fact that there are multiple scum factions twice and seems to think it’s important.
- and there’s at least one gem of defensive thought right here:


Once again assuming a random lynch is scummy, which I still don't get, and the issue with BH's method isn't that it doesn't work well, it's just that it's not as RNG as it could be since people know what they're voting for before voting, I asked questions about it since this is my second game and no one brought it up in my first game and I wanted to know people's thoughts on it. Nobody really answered though, people either said my idea was good or it was bad, without saying why, no one answered my questions about BH's method and the general idea I got from the thread is that RNG lynches are just not fun, which I don't think is a good argument. So I thought about it some more and came to the conclusion his method was the best RNG method since people aren't willing to random their votes.

I didn't really see it as a contradiction, even though everyone seems to think it was, I wasn't fully against it in my first post, I just asked some questions about it and then thought about it and concluded it was fine.

I already talked about the multiple scums faction thing, but yes I do think what the other factions are is important, why would it not be important? And I don't get your last point at all.

I'm town here guys, I don't think I did anything scummy, I especially didn't like BlueyD's case, I think it was really weak, like because I talked about RNG I'm scum, that doesn't make sense to me. Anyways, I'm gonna give my general reads a bit later, I still need to catch up to the thread though, I didn't give any reads earlier because it's hard when everyone knows each other and knows each other's plays when I don't, I'm worried I'll say silly things and call someone suspicious for doing what everyone knows is his town game, but I'll definitely give reads on the people I played with.


and is mostly a defensie post. he/she follows it up though with this post full of reads. Exerpted it from it:

On May 22 2014 00:19 Yell0w wrote:

tamburini: scum, I didn't like the big post he made, it all seemed like fluff, he was basically just giving his gut reads on people as he was reading the thread, which is pretty much useless to anyone but him. He's been very different from the game I played with him where he was town.

I thought I'd have more time to do this but my friend showed up and wants to play chess, but for now, with tamburini, my biggest scum read is jampidampi and biggest town reads are poofter and hapa.



And, when the lynch comes down to RNG vs his scumread, he's nowhere to be found. He disappears and never has to weigh in on whether he'd rather lynch RNG or his scumread, and has not returned since then, even though judging by when he's usually active he should have posted right now. Even better, the lynch has already happened so he can just say what's convenient for him. So yeah I'd say pretty good chance he's scum.

Man all this filter diving is lame, I kinda want to just wait and see if I get shot THEN do all the work but if I do get shot how will you guys win unless I leave something behind? As the only competent townie I have a responsibility to lead, even from the grave.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 17:59 GMT
#2938
On May 24 2014 02:58 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 02:56 marvellosity wrote:
yes, you're much more likely to be right than me, of course.


As meapak said to bh, town down the douche vet harping.
You guys are ruining the game.


Unless of course Marv and I are scum and we're intentionally being douch-vet-harps (what a bad mental image!) to trip you up hue hue hue
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 18:05 GMT
#2943
I could respond to that but instead I'm being nice <3

see how nice I am <3
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 18:09 GMT
#2948
On May 24 2014 03:08 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 24 2014 03:00 Steveling wrote:
Well there's a reason that new guys run away screaming after a couple games here.

?

I did not do this, tehpoofter still here...

Coag left but he isn't new

I don't think vet folks are the reason Hurricane Sponge left, and Jampidampi was out because EVERYONE was a mongrel to him from what I remember



Letting aside the douche mode, it's also detrimental to the game's progression.

Take for example my last exchange with marv.
I'm obviously right but all marv says is "no im a vet so im right".
And I wouldn't care about this if there weren't a bunch of gullible dudes that will actually side with him.
BH's read on Odin case in point.

You are only as good as your filters.
And so far bh and marv are couple of the worst players in this game.


So, you say "worst" instead of "scummiest" because...?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 18:18 GMT
#2961
Since when is Koshi a vet?

No offense to Koshi
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 18:20 GMT
#2965
Like I guess I'm just saying, people seem to have no trouble lynching me when I'm scum, and me being a vet doesn't protect me there. When I was a newbie, and even today when I smurf, things always go fine for me, because I'm actually a not-TOO-terrible player of mafia. Hell, even Geript is a "vet" in his own way, but the "vet" "non-vet" distinction isn't meaningful imo. After all, Slam has played tons of games but you don't see people worshipping him as a "vet" cause "vet" is just a word
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 18:25 GMT
#2975
here take a look at my filter in like the first game I played on TL Mafia

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/291067-student-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=Blazinghand

Some choice quotes

On December 10 2011 13:19 Blazinghand wrote:
BKEXE, I'd be more careful about how I post, were I you. I personally feel a great deal of frustration in my attempts to parse the tomato-stained spaghetti that you call "analysis", and I am one of the more patient folk here. Please, for the good of the town (if you are town) make your case in a legible fashion.

Thank you.


more funly worded but I still just called a dude bad and told him to be better

moral of the story is i'm just a dick
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 18:26 GMT
#2978
On May 24 2014 03:25 layabout wrote:
That case on y3llow is horrific and i would normally call it pretty scummy tbh. Being absent during the last 3 hours of the day (which is when the odin wagon started in earnest) is not something that we can necessarily infer things from because we have no way of knowing if the absence is legitimate. That's a narrative, a few quotes and no argument with some added complaining about doing work for the thread.


the dude was absent for way more than the last 3 hours of the day tho and he hasn't veen back since then so yewah, get served
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 23 2014 18:28 GMT
#2982
Yeah honestly I'm always down with a slam lynch/shot because I never understand how that dude operates. I was gonna dive his filter since he's the next guy on the wagon but I'd rather not, can someone just shoot him? kkthx
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