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Vote geript. If he dies he stops talking. We all want that. Only vote jp him if you're út t early unwilling to vote lei odin | ||
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C Bo 63 odin. What has he done for towbn. Why would he invite me. He's proof dc in scum. Ring worked | ||
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On May 22 2014 16:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I don't buy this bullshit at all BH. My patience is running thin. Isaaaaaaaaaac | ||
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On May 22 2014 16:37 Blazinghand wrote: Not cause I think he's scum I just want him dead. Lel god reading geri op t | ||
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Let's seriously talk about Odin. He enters the thread with an OMGUS on me. He doesn't call it an OMGUS, but let's be 100% real here: it's an OMGUS. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21389332 now what's interesting here isn't the OMGUS itself (which is imo only mildly scummy-- it could come from angry town for example, especially someone who has been pushed while he was legitimately away) but rather the follow up. Odin has plenty of time without me in the thread. He could be gathering reactions, pushing people to make reads, and generally trying to get me lynched. After all, he thinks I'm scum, doesn't he? Instead, he mostly jabbers and completely forgets he's pushing me. On May 22 2014 01:17 OdinOfPergo wrote: LOL. townpile. But no, serious the reason I have a problem with Vale is that he doesn't bring all those pooper analysis to the thread! On May 22 2014 01:25 OdinOfPergo wrote: I'm just going to say I don't disagree with either of you here. It's simple. That comment might get me to re-evaluate my willingness to lynch Vale. But it's only going to happen when he backs it up with actual results.. What's the problem here? On May 22 2014 01:30 OdinOfPergo wrote: Ye, that's all I'm getting at. I think Cav's getting picky about it when there isn't a reason too. Because Vale will just never produce results from it.. That post was lols.. If Vale is scum, I really look foward to seeing that qt comment "I know! I'll lie and tell them I was on the toilet!" Oh yes, later, hours later, he finally remembers he's actually pushing me... and makes this amazing post which convinces and was destined to convince absolutely no-one to lynch me: On May 22 2014 01:50 OdinOfPergo wrote: you should totes vote BH Holy. I'm not really sure on Thrawn. I think he should be much more apparent in later days though. I don't want to lynch him today at least. with no followup. People have been talking about me occasionally, too, and even if not why isn't he pushing his read? his vote sure is on me. It's only AFTER I re-enter the thread that he starts addressing me more clearly and aggressively. He was fine interacting with other players without pushing his read. Only a proximal notification reminded him, "oh, right, i'm supposed to be tunnelling BH. Oops" On May 22 2014 02:36 OdinOfPergo wrote: lol convienent of you to drop by BH. Thanks for summing it up for me. I posted my thoughts, elaborated why I thought that way. So yes, basically, I've done more in like my 5 post than you've managed in 3 pages of filter? Yet I'm still you're choice of scum? And you still managed to add nothing else outside of it. You're not making me sad about where my vote is. So, I literally call him out for not pushing me On May 22 2014 02:38 Blazinghand wrote: zzz I don't see any pushing or analysis from you, or any follow up. How convenient! you're not pushing your scumread, except when he literally shows up and points out that you're not. Where was your pushing when I wasn't in the thread? sure, youv oted me, but you didn't try to get ANYONE else on the wagon, because as scum you're afraid afraid of what will happen afraid to play the game and here's what he says: On May 22 2014 02:43 OdinOfPergo wrote: It hasn't been very long since I came to the thread. Considering I'm pretty obvious as town.. Also curious how come you don't mention I do this exact same sort of thing every town game? I mean common.. We just were in a game.. think back I think you can do it. Now sub out the bullet points I used in that game for - marks... and BAM I'm like playing exactly the same.. So ye, I'm not big flashy going to blow out 15 pages of bs for your lynch. I want you lynched. But I will at least give people time to read my case and make opinions for themselves. I'm not going to blow out 15 pages of spam about useless crap for it. Until other people comment on it I'm pretty much done explaining this lol.. Odin has been in the thread at this point for hours. Not days, granted-- but hours. He hasn't done ANY follow-up. When I ask him for follow-up, he claism I'm asking for some flashy 15 page thing. That's not what i'm pointing out; what i'm pointing out is that he has voted me but clearly has no actual intention to get me lynched. So I toy with him. I call him a bad newbie. I try to anger him. If he were really town, he'd leap on me, he'd tear into me, wouldn't he? Wouldn't he, being town, become sure that I'm scum, become angry, lose control? No, he's completely calm. He doesn't even make a REAL attempt to get people to vote me. On May 22 2014 03:02 OdinOfPergo wrote: Let me answer this for you. I am still BH sole read this game. A read he could not of possible of come to at the time he came to it.. ...and then he unvotes me. On May 22 2014 10:16 OdinOfPergo wrote: Ok I'm just going to unvote for now since this will never happen today. I freaking hate that you opt out of this with a blue claim to fool around, not do anything, partake in a continueing (since the start of the freaking game) RNG talk. And make stupid bets that have no relevancy to anything based off of getting me lynched. Oh and then proceeding to not even really push my lynch. Austin gets sideways glances from me for prodding BH to continue to post nothingness. I'm not super sure on Rit but meh, I don't have the time to filter him tonight so hopefully I'll get to that. Still wouldn't be upset with Ceph, since I don't recall him ever being back yet. But still curious on his response to that sketchy push on Bunnies. even though he's still convinced that I'm scum, and that i'm opting out. Instead he talks about "Sideways glances". Where's the anger? Where's even the bitterness at a Vet pretty much literally pulling rank on him to not get lynched? He doesn't care, cause he's scum. And what has he done since unvoting me? pretty much nothing. Oh yes, he has some small interactions On May 22 2014 22:55 OdinOfPergo wrote: hmm so much reading.. so little energy. That's your only issue with that layabout post Holy? Geez, I find the progressions of his reads rather far-fetched. But maby that's just me. Out of anyone who's going to get him lynched I'm suprised by the wtf response he gives. More so to a player he hasn't really mentioned... ever? and he jumps on the mtamb wagon On May 23 2014 00:31 OdinOfPergo wrote: Ok well, if today's lynch is between Laya/Trambo.. I'll ##vote: mtamburini If I'm not noncomprehending your previous argument Laya, shouldn't you consolidate on Trambo as-well instead of OMGUS Rit? Isn't your point that he's trying to either distance himself or bait onto a second bandwagon? To pull attention from Trambo? Meh, I'm going to sleep. I'm to tired to think clearly anymore. but that's it. And look at his post, which is just a vote for tamb and some like, lame questions for layabout, coupled with an excuse of sleepiness and fatigue. Look at that. There's like NO chance the guy is town. He's not even trying, he's hedging, and he reacted exactly like a scum trying to to start a shitfest and just appear involved. Where is his followup? Where are his reads? does anyone know ANYTHING About Odin's reads? No, and not cause he hasn't been posting. He's been active lurking, making posts that look conversational and analytic, but tell nothing. His behavior doesn't make sense, either between his vote on me and my return to the thread, nor when I was goading him, and honestly not even when he unvoted me. Afterwards he did nothing. Odin is an amazing lynch. Even if you don't believe in RNG, you have to lynch Odin. Read his filter. Realize he's scum. Vote him. | ||
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On May 23 2014 02:54 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, I'm back. I don't think tambo is the correct lynch right now. Neither do I think val is, but if I had to choose between them, I would choose val. I want to see a jampi lynch, but that's not gonna happen. Still thinking about who my vote will go on. check out my pbp analysis on odin imo http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=120#2398 | ||
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On May 23 2014 02:57 Valenius wrote: How long till deadline, vote count isnt showing it for me in mobile browser? On a train for next 20 mins with shit reception :tunnels: OK, youre better than this. Go back to being the long thought out case guy instead of 'hes shit so hes scum' I made that point in one of my first posts, I suck at day1. 2 hours to the deadline please check out my long thought out case on odin. it's literally not about rng at all; the guy is scum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=120#2398 | ||
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On May 23 2014 02:58 Cavalinho wrote: I might move my vote onto Odin if others do it. I'd prefer mtam over Valenius right now, and unless I can ensure Odin's lynch over Val's, I won't move my vote. Will you be around until deadline? Let's start moving votes to Odin now, since people will be slow to move unless they see some people going first. I'm really good at getting people to move votes at the deadline, but we need momentum. | ||
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On May 23 2014 02:58 Xatalos wrote: Hm, I actually kind of like BH's case. I'm actually kinda amazed that Odin is objectively scummy. When I started the filter dive I was worried he'd be town and I'd end up looking stupid. Not worried any more! | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:00 27ninjabunnies wrote: Also, I'm back. Got off of work super early. Will read and post in a bit you don't need to catch up on the thread to read this bit, I think you'll find it very interesting. I did post by post analysis of Odin's filter and am sure he's scum, based on non-rng reasons. Check it out: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=120#2398 | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote: It's just that he's so apathetic in his scumhunting...... yeah, it's not like anything odin said was literally contradictory, or that he made scumslips. It's worth noting that if he is scum, he's been very careful not to let obvious slips through. However, it seem fairly clear that Odin is not actually interested in hunting scum or pushing his reads. I think that's the big takeaway here. If he were truly apathetic as a townie, we'd see less hand-wavey attempts to look like he's pushing or discussing. He's trying to put up a front but his goal isn't scumhunting, and it shows. | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:03 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, looking at Odin's filter myself, I think he's just a vanilla townie. Scum would try harder to get out of it. As a vanilla townie, he wouldn't care. You say as a VT he wouldn't care, but remember the first thing he did when he got back was to vote me (and not follow it up! and then unvote me later after I goad him deliberately, angering most people, but not him for some reason... while waffling on others)... | ||
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On May 23 2014 03:05 Koshi wrote: Odin filter in You only shoot once. Meta differences? to me Odin looks pretty the same. big differences. Take a look at this post from YOSO by Odin: On April 26 2014 18:06 OdinOfPergo wrote: I still don't understand. Maby I'm bad. What does it really have to do with squat though? "But know this: IF he's scum, then he's got a free pass to use his KP however he wishes right now if he has day KP free of scrutiny because he is GOING to die." But why? What you are saying involves these possibles. a) Palmar is vanilla town. He dies to nuke. b) Palmar is blue dayvig towner. He OMGUS Caller and kills him. c) Palmar is scum. He OMGUS/ Spends scum kp killing Caller and dies himself unless his role (or other scum role for him) can dayvig Palmar. Point in case is that either; vanilla town Palmar dies to the nuke. town dayvig Palmar kills Caller. Scum Palmar/ teammates dayvig Caller. None of these results give us any information. How are you drawing conclusions from them? Like I don't disagree that Caller's nuke at this point seems unwarrented. I'm simply confused on how you are coming up with 'scum' for someone because of it. This is Odin following up a post with a continued argument in direct response to someone, pushing his arguments. Sure, he votes then unvotes Palmar, but look at how his reads develop On April 27 2014 09:49 OdinOfPergo wrote: Koshi rest your mind. If this isn't a scum claim I don't know what is. Palmar is basically saying "Firetruck all you town ppl" Besides I think you've been in a few games where the 'blow me town' phrase came up as a scum claim a few times. What gives Kosher? I'm so comfortable with this that I hope Caller's nuke DOESN'T land(Like he claimed) just so we can lynch scum regardless. I also get a nice town-read from it. Which is nice because I was kind of at a loss at how to treat the scenario of Palmar not dying from the nuke. Now I do. SO thanks Palmar for being so scum. Anyway. I just thought I'd chime in on this. I need to actually do more than a breeze through of this thread but ye For now while I re-read with some thought.. Koshi; I want you to decide and base what your read is on this. I've heard you flip flop between Palmar and Caller for a while now with little to go between. SO decide. Otherwise I'm going to be confused and might think your scum for floating reads with no reason. P.S. (It might be a while before I'm free to post. Ask your questions though. I'll make it around to them.) On April 27 2014 10:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: No I don't care about the pardon. I have Prp as null/slight town. I don't care if Foolish says he's scum. From his filter I don't think that. I'm curious as to why Koshi goes from reading his filter pretty much saying "This guy seems town" to "welp Fool thinks he's scum so he's got to be scum." Doesn't make sense to me. Per Palmar.. Ye my read has little to do with it. Palmar could be scum framing a townie for a... second mislynch? (Assuming Prp actually would of gone through) Or setting up Wifom trying to frame Prp as town now. I don't know which yet. I'll draw conclusions on it after I've thought about it more. But Palmar saying "sod off town. I'm going to be disruptive as possible" You think that play makes Palmar town? Like seriously? Look how he mentions other reads, but never stops pushing his target: On April 27 2014 09:49 OdinOfPergo wrote: Koshi rest your mind. If this isn't a scum claim I don't know what is. Palmar is basically saying "Firetruck all you town ppl" Besides I think you've been in a few games where the 'blow me town' phrase came up as a scum claim a few times. What gives Kosher? I'm so comfortable with this that I hope Caller's nuke DOESN'T land(Like he claimed) just so we can lynch scum regardless. I also get a nice town-read from it. Which is nice because I was kind of at a loss at how to treat the scenario of Palmar not dying from the nuke. Now I do. SO thanks Palmar for being so scum. Anyway. I just thought I'd chime in on this. I need to actually do more than a breeze through of this thread but ye For now while I re-read with some thought.. Koshi; I want you to decide and base what your read is on this. I've heard you flip flop between Palmar and Caller for a while now with little to go between. SO decide. Otherwise I'm going to be confused and might think your scum for floating reads with no reason. P.S. (It might be a while before I'm free to post. Ask your questions though. I'll make it around to them.) And then he votes, as a culmination of a legitimate pushing effort: On April 27 2014 17:48 OdinOfPergo wrote: What the hell. Seriously. Why is no one lynching Palmar. This dude claims scum, and everyone ignore it. I haven't checked out SnB but you know what.. I'm not going to until tomorrow. Lynching scum to high on my list to worry about other things. ##Vote: Palmar Even now Palmar you can't be asked to put any effort into this game. Per your last post you; Want to die so you can "yell at game" post game. Didn't actually read Prp's case but decided he must be town. So thus pardon.... TO FIRETRUCK WITH TOWN. And he's WORRIED he didn't screw with town. So what gives? There is this guy in our game... Who claims over and over again he's out to do whatever is possible to ruin the town. And we aren't lynching him. and he only unvotes when, in a majority game, a consolidation is NEEDED in order to prevent a no-lynch. Not because people didn't express interest 24 hours into a 48 hour day, but because in a majority game at the end of the day you MUST consolidate On April 28 2014 11:39 OdinOfPergo wrote: OK snap we need to consolidate. I haven't been around so I'm going to ##Unvote I still don't like anything Palmar has done. But I have no hope of pushing this lynch and no one else seems to think.. well, bluntly put, doing anti town things makes you not town. w/e. I'm not happy but there is tomorrow. I'm also willing to donate post to people who are around to discuss topics. I'm a bit behind but I will focus on catching up before the deadline. Even later, he stays on Palmar On April 28 2014 12:47 OdinOfPergo wrote: Wtf no. How is Palmar not been anti town? Also thanks Austin. Your previous comment led me to Oats filter and I had some quams with it before. But reading it now with fresh eyes... These are the big hiccups I ran into. What Slam shot? I must of missed it earlier but apparently he is lying and didn't shoot Yam. Then we should lynch him. Yam was annoying. I thought there was a decent chance he was scum. I don't blame Slam for his shot. But wait I just read it was Ace who possibly shot Yam? I'm much confused right now. Moving to SnB ##unvote ##vote SnB as per my SNB thoughts.. I didn't like his VE tunnel. It wasn't a tunnel in the sense that he focus him as scum.. He focused on explain how his ideas lined up. Way to much. Like I don't even think VE is scum and I think this guy is protecting so much that it makes me wonder. But a few of his responses and even his post in general tbh give a townish vibe when people bring up arguement. Like for example People grab pitchforks and go for SnB Odin: "Well ye I guess that makes sense" People: "NO! He's super towns! Re-read his stuff you will see!" Odin: "Well, I mean that looks bad but this looks ok..." People: "He's totes scum" Odin: "I'm so freaking confused." My problem with the SnB lynch isn't that I think he could flip scum. No there is that possibility. I think that it's not a bad lynch. I know this responce will make me look bad. But I don't care. The reason I don't want to lynch SnB is because I'm not sure on SnB's alignment. He's posted plenty to point towards scum. He has posted enough that I second guess myself. where's that follow up now? Where's that follow through, the development of reads, the conviction of his beliefs? nowhere | ||
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