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27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 22 2014 18:48 GMT
#2481
Does anyone remember the quote:Odin bet that BH made with someone?

I feel like that's what this is now.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 22 2014 18:48 GMT
#2482
On May 23 2014 03:46 Koshi wrote:
BH was pretty persuasive in YOSO on SnB right? Or was he less persuasive?
Anybody remembers?
I don't want to fall into this rng trap :/


I can't really argue my own meta, but if you want, just read Odin's filter on your own and think about what I said. Make your own analysis based on my suspicions and see if you come to the same result.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 22 2014 18:48 GMT
#2483
On May 23 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Does anyone remember the quote:Odin bet that BH made with someone?

I feel like that's what this is now.


I didn't make the bet cause he wasn't willing to vote odin.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 22 2014 18:49 GMT
#2484
On May 23 2014 03:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Does anyone remember the quote:Odin bet that BH made with someone?

I feel like that's what this is now.


I didn't make the bet cause he wasn't willing to vote odin.


Uh huh....

Very well then
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 22 2014 18:49 GMT
#2485
On May 23 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Does anyone remember the quote:Odin bet that BH made with someone?

I feel like that's what this is now.


I was thinking the same. I was looking for it but couldn't find it.

Both of these lynches feel kinda "eh" to me, but maybe I'm just bad. I don't know.
Spectaticle
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 22 2014 18:50 GMT
#2486
On May 23 2014 03:49 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 03:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 23 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Does anyone remember the quote:Odin bet that BH made with someone?

I feel like that's what this is now.


I didn't make the bet cause he wasn't willing to vote odin.


Uh huh....

Very well then


Damn man, if you don't trust me, fine, read odin's (very very short) filter for yourself and think about what I said. You'll come to the same conclusions I do. REad the casae. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=120#2398 It's all true
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 22 2014 18:50 GMT
#2487
On May 23 2014 03:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 03:28 OnceKing wrote:
On May 23 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2014 03:21 OnceKing wrote:
also bunnies just brought up a gr8 point where once people started pulling off of tambo he's disappeared l0l


He honestly did.

Like a "Hey, no one's voting me now, I still have one day" type thing.

I think tambo is a procrastinator.

procrastinating scum or procrastinating town or procrastinating null?


Prcrastinating scum.

I still don't like tambo in this game.
I think he thinks he has one more day, and will be all like "hey, I have anther day to make them think im town. Let me post more now."


Oh bunnies if I didnt know any better you're just a bit butt hurt cause I tunneled on you early game and just want the satisfaction of saying you got me ML because I get you ML a lot

Also just to rustle your jimmies some more click this

trolling FTW

and then this is what I did at end of that game

#wrekt
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 22 2014 18:50 GMT
#2488
On May 23 2014 03:49 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Does anyone remember the quote:Odin bet that BH made with someone?

I feel like that's what this is now.


I was thinking the same. I was looking for it but couldn't find it.

Both of these lynches feel kinda "eh" to me, but maybe I'm just bad. I don't know.


there's no bet. read the case, read odin's filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=120#2398
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 22 2014 18:50 GMT
#2489
The timestamp is broken (probably just for me). Could anyone tell me if lynch is in 10 minutes or 70? Thanks.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 22 2014 18:50 GMT
#2490
wow fuckin mtamb shape up or get out. I'll lynch you to shut you up and lynch odin tomorrow if that's what it takes. don't believe I can't do it, either
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 22 2014 18:51 GMT
#2491
On May 23 2014 03:50 kitaman27 wrote:
The timestamp is broken (probably just for me). Could anyone tell me if lynch is in 10 minutes or 70? Thanks.


70 minutes
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 18:51 GMT
#2492
70 kita
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 18:54 GMT
#2493
kita can you talk about mtam? You were looking earlier for a counterwagon to avoid blowout, now they appear in spades.

If you throw out the last couple posts that are intentionally trolly, how you feel about his/her play?
Fe fi fo fum.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 22 2014 18:55 GMT
#2494
On May 23 2014 03:50 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 03:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2014 03:28 OnceKing wrote:
On May 23 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2014 03:21 OnceKing wrote:
also bunnies just brought up a gr8 point where once people started pulling off of tambo he's disappeared l0l


He honestly did.

Like a "Hey, no one's voting me now, I still have one day" type thing.

I think tambo is a procrastinator.

procrastinating scum or procrastinating town or procrastinating null?


Prcrastinating scum.

I still don't like tambo in this game.
I think he thinks he has one more day, and will be all like "hey, I have anther day to make them think im town. Let me post more now."


Oh bunnies if I didnt know any better you're just a bit butt hurt cause I tunneled on you early game and just want the satisfaction of saying you got me ML because I get you ML a lot

Also just to rustle your jimmies some more click this

trolling FTW

and then this is what I did at end of that game

#wrekt



What was that?

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the big sounds and noises that are blaring

"TAMBURINI IS MAFIA SCUM"

Even if oyu aren't, yes. I will get deep satisfaction that your ass got mislynched.

How does it feel tamburini? Huh?

The fact everyone believes you are a girl and about to get lynched...

To me it feels so sweet.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 22 2014 18:55 GMT
#2495
Yeah, that's a reasonable case. Votes going on Odin in a bit unless i find anything in the filter of one/two others first.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 22 2014 18:56 GMT
#2496
On May 23 2014 03:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 03:49 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2014 03:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 23 2014 03:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Does anyone remember the quote:Odin bet that BH made with someone?

I feel like that's what this is now.


I didn't make the bet cause he wasn't willing to vote odin.


Uh huh....

Very well then


Damn man, if you don't trust me, fine, read odin's (very very short) filter for yourself and think about what I said. You'll come to the same conclusions I do. REad the casae. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?page=120#2398 It's all true


I read your case, I agree it is pretty good.d

But I'm not sure if I'm willing to switch my vote over just yet.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
May 22 2014 18:56 GMT
#2497
vote## odin
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2014 18:57 GMT
#2498
On May 23 2014 03:50 Blazinghand wrote:
wow fuckin mtamb shape up or get out. I'll lynch you to shut you up and lynch odin tomorrow if that's what it takes. don't believe I can't do it, either

^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
May 22 2014 18:58 GMT
#2499
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 23 2014 03:48 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 03:45 mtamburini wrote:
I Vote:: tehpoofter

why?
No one else has and I can be the first one to say in post game if he is scum to say I TOLD YOU SO MOFOS

harharharhar
##vote: mtamburni


Let's play a game!

I'm gonna give you a person. You're going tell me the towniest thing in their filter, the scummiest thing in your filter, and what you think their spirit animal is. You're also going to ignore that the previous sentence was grammatically incorrect and should have had "his/her" instead of their.


VALENIUS!

gogogo

You can do the same to me when you return.


Town
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2014 04:15 Valenius wrote:
Onegu, that's terrible; Really hope it get's better quickly.





I'm not sure how many posts, and this applies for all of you 'vets', are serious and how many are little in jokes between yourselves.. so if I miss out something it's probably because i didnt want to make a read based on something that could be common in your games. Make sense? As always with me, i just read through filters. Backtracking thread is too hard.

So.. + Show Spoiler +


Yell0w.

+ Show Spoiler +
Despite how much everyone seems to hate the whole RNGesus plan, his initial post on it was solid. It's misguided in that it would require everyone to take part.. which won't happen; but the theory is sound. It's easy enough for someone to test everyone else's post to make sure there's no tomfoolery occurring. Any switches (early or late) would draw suspicion. Somebody pulled him up on his switch to BH's plan 'with no posts in between', but that was bullshit. He'd been shown how it wouldn't work, so his switch was logical.

His first big post mostly makes sense. I agree with his points on RNG not being totally alignment indicative, and for me it's probably more like 60% town indicative. With most of the players in here, I don't think experienced scum would have much trouble causing a mislynch on day1. RNG is imo more likely to hit them than a lynch through the normal course of play - Unless they made a monumental slip-up.

Summary: Probably Town, like his thought process.


Blazinghand

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Dude, drop the RNG. I was a believer, but it's not going to happen.

Again, the logic behind it was solid (imo - see above), as is the setup talk and effectiveness of the scummers.

The wording of this post was a little bit off to me: + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Good point, also it doesn't matter, we need to kill them all. So are you on board, jampidampi? or are you busy thinking of another excuse not to lynch your scumbuddy odin?


In the post he was replying to, i'd put the win condition was "Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town". The 'we need to kill them all' seems to have just ignored that. Not sure if slip, but thought i'd mention it.. 'when in Rome' and all.

Overall: I don't like how you've continued pushing the RNG as it's getting to the stage where most are ignoring you, although If anything I think it makes you more town than scum at this point.


Alakaslam

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't get you.



+ Show Spoiler +
You know what stop putting Vaseline in your car and diesel does not improve your lips. Neither does motor oil work for lubrication of human anatom-

Actually, I am unsure of that

Anyway dat GASOLINE more specific than PETROL bro

Putting plastic in the car or what?

Loo

Heheh

Alyoominnium

If course to you we like a-LOO-minnum


sqrtofneg1
+ Show Spoiler +

Seems reasonably in line with newbie games i've played/obs'd with him, although slightly

Odd post time: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed." - Forgive me if I missed the page, but where was this confirmed?

Your vote on Holyflare was about as useful as my vote on Koshi.

+e$ports 20 for the recent geript comment.

Summary: Stay vigilant sqrt, newbie bro. These guys will promise you the world, and just end up taking your bottle-cap collection. (Probably town, but a bit too easily swayed)


Cavalinho

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You could pretty much pull out in a black Ford Model 18 "V-8" (1932-1934)* and wave your tommy gun around and I still probably wouldn't lynch you today. You're a survivor Cav, I believe in you.

* Thanks GQ slideshow

Oh, actual 'analysis' time?

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 14:12 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 14:09 BlueyD wrote:
Cav why do you think he's scum?


Because he's scum.

And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making people feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in.


I pretty much fully disagree. Steveling's done anything but try and blend in. The lover's tiff between him and Holyflare is one of the more dominant things that have happened so far. Maybe people will laugh, and maybe I'm overestimating the ability of some of you regulars/overusing my newbie reads, but it doesn't seem massively scummy.

You haven't defecated today.

Summary: Pale Mafia. A light shade of pink.



27ninjabunnies
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.



I find the last sentence a little bit contradictory. If you assume that you're in a game with people who will catch slips most of the time, then surely the talkative slippy mafia wouldn't last longer than the lurkers due to the talkative slippy nature of themselves? I don't know, maybe it's just my interpretation of the line, and maybe im understating the {if any) part.


+ Show Spoiler +
If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.


The fuck? It's early in the game, and there's pretty much 0 pressure on you to give out your reads to him. Saying you're then looking at them will surely change their behaviour, rendering the whole thing invalid?

The whole post by matamburini is too big and had too many capitals, so I havent and probably wont read it.


Meapak_Ziphh
+ Show Spoiler +

You still have your vote on me, and i think you've spelled my name about 6 different ways. Apart from me, who do you think's scummy?


bkqyrldp

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't have a clue what to expect from a 2-player player, but his post on how players enters the thread is alright. His quotes on jampidampi back this up. When the game started last night i couldnt really care, and i plan to return to that after this post for today. Previous newbie games i tried hard to analyse everything, and ended up being wrong and getting stressed, so it's carefree all the way for this game.

Erm, summary: Town.


Kitaman27

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The heart post was funny, not much else in his filter. He hosted my first game, so I always thought he'd be super pro. Kita, warm my little heart and show me you're pro.


I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.



Scum
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 07:50 Valenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced?


As a member of the balance team, I can assure you that a multifactional game supports more scum than a non-multifactional game. There are a number of reasons for this. Part of it is that, say, in a 2-scum-faction game, half of the scum will push on each other for reasons unrelated to bussing, because they can't distinguish between "scum on the other scum team" and "town". They'll even shoot into each other sometimes. Town loses the ability to make some associative tells, but the amount of crosstalk from scum accidentally pushing or shooting each other makes up for it.

2+2 scum with each group having 1 kp will never be as effective as 4 scum with 2 kp working together at killing town.

That being said, you never mentioned any real objection to the concept of RNG, you just questioned my estimate of scum in this game. I can only assume you didn't object to actual RNG because you think it would be fine if more factions = more scum. So, now that I've shown that more factions = more scum, you'll vote odin, yes?

I would need some kind of hard evindence that there are multiple scum factions in this game to RNG lynch, since those additional factions could be third parties and that wouldn't necessarily increase the scum numbers.


The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right?

Also nice goalpost moving.

1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions.

2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1.

So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch???


From OP: "Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town!"

Not necessarily all scum aligned?
+ Show Spoiler +


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Chipmunk
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 18:59 GMT
#2500
Sorry, can you do those things and add why you chose them? That's my bad I guess for not including it.

Also, no desire to assign someone back?
Fe fi fo fum.
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