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On January 09 2014 23:13 Mocsta wrote: /in Doc pl0x /in I'm doc | ||
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Scooby Doo Mini-Mini Mafia! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_C2HJvtRDY Marvellosity: Holyflare, you are truly the best mafia player of them all! Holyflare: I am so honored you think that but I truly can't accept your gratitude. I had help. I always have help. Marvellosity: What do you mean? Surely your intelligence alone is enough to solve these mysteries each and every time??? Holyflare: Alas! It should be, yet, there are always scores of underwhelming people that need convincing that I am always right and thus I need my trusty team to do that. Marvellosity: What team is that? Holyflare: Don't be silly marv, search deep down. What does your heart tell you. Marvellosity: NO..... You don't mean!? Holyflare: YES MARV, YES! I DO MEAN THEM. It is Mystery Inc!!!! I also have a bit of a confession marv... I don't know how to tell you this but you've been part of the gang all along. There have been hints, I would have hoped you had realised by now. Remember WHC? Remember how we worked great as a team? That was synergy marv, it was no coincedence. We even come from the same country. Your accident left you with crazy amnesia and the plastic surgery has left you looking.... significantly different to say the least. Want to know your previous identity? Well, your name was Velma the female detective. Marvellosity: What!?!?!? NO?!?? THIS CAN'T BE. I AM A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have so many questions!!! I NEED ANSWERS RIGHT NOW!!! Holyflare: Well, the accident left us all worse for wear. I, for one, used to be a dog with a speech impediment. My name was Scooby of all things! Marvellosity: That name sounds so familiar. I always thought you were a good boy........ What happened to the rest of Mystery Inc? Holyflare: Fuck you marv. The others - well... I lost track of them long ago, however, quite recently I received a message from Fred saying that he had located the others and has arranged for a place for all of us to meet. That meeting is today. In fact, we're heading there right now. Marvellosity: Shit! What?!?! I'm not ready! JINKIES, WHAT ON EARTH WAS THAT SOUND Holyflare: I don't kn- Scooby Doo and Velma have been kidnapped! ----------------- RUH ROH gang! It seems that someone has taken 2 of the gang hostage, it is up to you to find out who! Type /mysterymachine to get in the van and start searching for clues! | ||
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On January 10 2014 03:11 Giggletummy wrote: Unknown. If this is some scooby doo/star trek crossover, then I might be entering the van, but in a parallel universe where the gang rides around in the Obvious Machine and points out obvious things (and also all have goatees/beards/lack of goatees/beards). Who knows what could happen when one searches for clues! | ||
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On January 10 2014 03:15 Giggletummy wrote: In non-scooby doo news, Derrida was a critic of Foucault, which means Derrida is probably town. Nobody likes a smelly frenchman! Why will you not search for clues giggle? Do you not want to find the bad guys? | ||
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On January 10 2014 03:09 Holyflare wrote: Fred (Derrida) has entered the van! On January 10 2014 03:09 Holyflare wrote: Scrappy Doo (Artanis[Xp]) entered the van! On January 10 2014 03:00 Holyflare wrote: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) entered the van! 3 people are currently set to search for clues! It takes 6 to start the search! Current players not in the van: 1. GGTeMpLaR 2. Giggletummy 5. Mocsta I suggest joining the search for clues. Clues always lead to the correct answers. | ||
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On January 10 2014 03:09 Holyflare wrote: Fred (Derrida) has entered the van! On January 10 2014 03:09 Holyflare wrote: Scrappy Doo (Artanis[Xp]) entered the van! On January 10 2014 03:00 Holyflare wrote: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) entered the van! On January 10 2014 05:10 Holyflare wrote: Daphne (GGTeMpLaR) has entered the van! Yabba-Doo (Giggletummy) has been forced into the van to search for clues! Only Mocsta remains! | ||
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![]() ![]() Find the rest of the gang! On January 10 2014 03:09 Holyflare wrote: Fred (Derrida) has entered the van! On January 10 2014 03:09 Holyflare wrote: Scrappy Doo (Artanis[Xp]) entered the van! On January 10 2014 03:00 Holyflare wrote: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) entered the van! On January 10 2014 05:10 Holyflare wrote: Daphne (GGTeMpLaR) has entered the van! On January 10 2014 07:06 Holyflare wrote: Yabba-Doo (Giggletummy) has been forced into the van to search for clues! Scooby Dum (Mocsta) has been dragged along to search for clues! Fred and the gang had been waiting for hours now, they were growing impatient. Fred (Derrida): Where are those 2? I'm getting worried you guys, I even promised scooby some scooby snacks! Shaggy (raynpelikoneet): It's not like scoob to turn down some food. Daphne (GGTeMpLaR): I don't get how both of you can eat so much. Fred (Derrida): Look guys, this conversation needs to stop! We've gotta go find velma and scooby! I'll get his family along. ----------- Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]): We haven't heard from scoob for a long time! I brought the others along too! Scooby Dum (Mocsta): Uhhhhh, where is scoob! Yabba-Doo (Giggletummy): WHERE IS HE I'M WORRIED!! Fred (Derrida): We'd hope you knew where they were! Guys we have to go look for them. *Fred turns on Mystery Machine's engine* **BEEP BEEP** Fred (Derrida): It's a text from velma!!!!!! ![]() Fred (Derrida): Hop in! We're going to solve this mystery! Dawn of the First Day ![]() Fred pulls up to the haunted house just off Victoria Street, just like the text had asked. Daphne (GGTeMpLaR):Guys, I don't see a way in, what do we do Fred (Derrida): Let's split up and look for clues! Shaggy (raynpelikoneet):Yikes! I don't like that plan! Fred (Derrida): We will split into groups of 2. Me and Daphne, Shaggy and Scrappy, Yabba Doo and Scooby Dum. Text us if you find a way in. Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]):PUPPPYYYYYY POWERRRR!!!! (The first voter of each team decides where to look!) Team 1: Fred (Derrida) and Daphne (GGTeMpLaR) Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) Team 3: Yabba (Giggletummy) and Scooby Dum (Mocsta) Only 1 team can go in 1 direction at a time! Pick: A) Try the front gate DUH! B) Check around the back for hidden side doors! C) Attempt to climb the fence. D) Hide in the van and wait! | ||
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On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: *growls* *wags tail* Team 3: Yabba (Giggletummy) and Scooby Dum (Mocsta) has decided to try the front gate. DUH! Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. ![]() A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! | ||
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On January 10 2014 08:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote: C Team 1: Fred (Derrida) and Daphne (GGTeMpLaR) have attempted to climb the fence! ![]() A sharp looking fence surrounds the compound as far as your little eyes can see! By joint decision you must come to an agreement on the following: A) Do you try and climb the really spikey fence despite it being COVERED IN SPIKES. Risk of impalement!!!!!! B) Look at the fence closer to get a real feel for the material and engravings! C) Search the immediate area, who knows what secrets are hidden at a haunted mansion! | ||
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On January 10 2014 08:47 Mocsta wrote: HF in an attempt to copy Rayn ##hide Team 3: Yabba (Giggletummy) and Scooby Dum (Mocsta) decide to hide in the van and wait! ![]() You return to the nice warm van and sit in the back with the doors locked shut. Something is wrong though. What could it be? Suddenly the van starts to rock back and forth, you're scared, REALLY REALLY SCARED. Sitting there in frozen horror a head slowly emerges from the back doors of the van. IT'S COMING THROUGH THE LOCKED DOORS!!!!!! As a team consensus do you: A) Shit yourself and stay there, maybe he is friendly *crosses fingers*. B) Try and smash out a window and run for your life to other companions. C) Stop taking that whack LSD and mong out in the front for a bit longer. DISCUSSION IS ENCOURAGED | ||
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Voted 1/2: "A" (GGTeMpLaR) Team 3: Yabba (Giggletummy) and Scooby Dum (Mocsta) has decided to try the front gate. DUH! Voted 1/2: "A" (Artanis[Xp]) Team 2 must choose a direction! | ||
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Team 1: Fred (Derrida) and Daphne (GGTeMpLaR) have attempted to climb the fence! Voted 1/2: "A" (GGTeMpLaR) Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[Xp]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH! Voted 1/2: "A" (Artanis[Xp]) Team 3: Yabba (Giggletummy) and Scooby Dum (Mocsta) are tripping balls in the mystery machine! Voted 1/2: "A" (Mocsta) | ||
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On January 10 2014 09:23 Mocsta wrote: .... I'm all ears. I bet that's awkward on a first date | ||
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On January 10 2014 09:26 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote: On January 10 2014 09:23 Mocsta wrote: On January 10 2014 09:20 Holyflare wrote: Derrida is confirmed town. .... I'm all ears. I bet that's awkward on a first date Didn't bother ya mum actually. dad......? | ||
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On January 10 2014 01:53 Derrida wrote: Hey all, this is my second mafia game and first one as townie finally! woohoo! Let's lynch some bad dudes. He literally said so himself. He also just got to L-1 and off it again in 0 seconds! | ||
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On January 10 2014 09:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I was reading you as trolly town after you refused to give a fuck about my pressure and kept making giant scooby doo stories when I gave good reasons for why you might have been scum and should stop. I am literally confirmed town at this point so you aren't reading | ||
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On January 10 2014 12:56 Derrida wrote: I am town you noobs, unvote me. Currently 5 am here just woke up because my cat is horny and meowing her ass off, do not, I repeat do not lynch me and I will try to provide some good reads intfhe morning. told you he's confirmed now | ||
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[QUOTE]On January 10 2014 09:00 Holyflare wrote: Team 1: Fred (Derrida) and Daphne (GGTeMpLaR) have attempted to climb the fence! Voted 1/2: "A" (GGTeMpLaR) Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[Xp]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH! Voted 2/2: "A" (Artanis[Xp]), "A" (raynpelikoneet) Team 3: Yabba (Giggletummy) and Scooby Dum (Mocsta) are tripping balls in the mystery machine! Voted 1/2: "A" (Mocsta)[/QUOTE] | ||
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On January 10 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 10 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote: Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]) *growls* A) Try the front gate DUH! *wags tail* Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH! Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. ![]() A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Decision reached: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. Scrappy and Shaggy edge up to the ominous looking gate with the crow sitting on top. Shaggy: I got a real bad feeling about this Scrappy. Scrappy: PUPPPYYYYYYY POWERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrappy charges into the gate headfirst! It swings open and the crow flies away. It turns it's head in the distance and Shaggy swears he see's the eyes of a human staring right back at him. Shaggy: Don't... no! Don't go. Come on, Scrappy Doo, don't do this. Please, don't go. Scrappy: Ghosts don't stand a chance with me! Let me at em!!! Let me at em!!! --------Scrappy and Shaggy walk through the gate only to end up on the same side they started on---------- Shaggy: Like, what's going on Scrappy? I could have sworn we were just here. *Scrappy tries again and again* Scrappy: I don't get it Shaggy, every time I go through the gate I end up back here again! Shaggy: Like, let's get out of here! *Shaggy and Scrappy turn around only to see the same gate now in front of them once again* Shaggy: Mary Jane isn't really helping right now! Scrappy:Who is she Shaggy? Shaggy: Just a timeless friend. How do we get out of here??? *Scrappy eyes some words on the gate bars* Scrappy: It says: If an exit is what you require, then solve this riddle and obtain your desire! "There is an ancient invention still used in some parts of the world today that allows people to see through walls. What is it?" A correct answer from either of you will be acceptable. | ||
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On January 10 2014 04:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Holyflare is my scumtell right now because he presumes to act like a confirmed town without having actually made any contributions to town himself. He just keeps asking for others to find clues for him. Not to mention his first post lead to the great scoobydoo spam of 2014. His trolly attitude came off as relaxed and confident townie on the surface, but the intentions and consequences were ultimately anti-town in my eyes. that I am his "scum tell" (odd choice of words???) but then within the NEXT POST has contradicted himself to say that: On January 10 2014 05:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote: The consequences are the 2 pages of scoobydoo roleplaying and off-shoot trolling that resulted from the silly atmosphere which just reads null all-round to me. The intentions were to produce this amount of fluff that we have to sift through to get reads + the added effect that he initially comes off as a relaxed/confident townie despite not having presented any unique game-related content. + Show Spoiler + /mysterymachine all the posts and actions done by myself so far are in fact a "null tell", this was before I had even posted half of what I had posted now!!! However, he completely drops off of me and I'm now actually a townie On January 10 2014 09:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I was reading you as trolly town after you refused to give a fuck about my pressure and kept making giant scooby doo stories when I gave good reasons for why you might have been scum and should stop. because I ignored him and continued to spam... All in the meanwhile he has made a semi-case on Derrridadadada the total towny+++ and voted him without discussing with his vote target or anyone else in an IML game. Unacceptable! I hesitate to vote right now (do we even have a time limit in this game..?) because the quest to save scooby doo MUST be completed. | ||
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Derridadadadadadadada's filter this game See any stark gameplay differences? Dude has a lot of reads on everyone as scum because he has perfect information whereas this game he has posted really just... nothing. Wanna know why he is town? People in this game know it's IML and HE STILL GOT TO L-1 WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. He has quite literally not been here and almost got lynched within the first few hours of the game despite the other shit going on and the fact that extractor trick got fucked because of early lynches like that IT STILL ALMOST HAPPENED AGAIN. There is 0 need for a bus today and that certainly did not seem like a bus as nobody fought it. (Only anti-bus I could see would be coming from giggle). He is town in my eyes. At least until someone has decent arguments against it. | ||
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Why don't you save scooby and velma instead for now. | ||
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On January 10 2014 16:39 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 10 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote: Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]) *growls* A) Try the front gate DUH! *wags tail* Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH! Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. ![]() A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Decision reached: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. Scrappy and Shaggy edge up to the ominous looking gate with the crow sitting on top. Shaggy: I got a real bad feeling about this Scrappy. Scrappy: PUPPPYYYYYYY POWERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrappy charges into the gate headfirst! It swings open and the crow flies away. It turns it's head in the distance and Shaggy swears he see's the eyes of a human staring right back at him. Shaggy: Don't... no! Don't go. Come on, Scrappy Doo, don't do this. Please, don't go. Scrappy: Ghosts don't stand a chance with me! Let me at em!!! Let me at em!!! --------Scrappy and Shaggy walk through the gate only to end up on the same side they started on---------- Shaggy: Like, what's going on Scrappy? I could have sworn we were just here. *Scrappy tries again and again* Scrappy: I don't get it Shaggy, every time I go through the gate I end up back here again! Shaggy: Like, let's get out of here! *Shaggy and Scrappy turn around only to see the same gate now in front of them once again* Shaggy: Mary Jane isn't really helping right now! Scrappy:Who is she Shaggy? Shaggy: Just a timeless friend. How do we get out of here??? *Scrappy eyes some words on the gate bars* Scrappy: It says: Show nested quote + If an exit is what you require, then solve this riddle and obtain your desire! "There is an ancient invention still used in some parts of the world today that allows people to see through walls. What is it?" A correct answer from either of you will be acceptable. Scrappy: Shaggy, OH SHAGGY! I KNOW IT! IT'S A HAMMER, RIGHT RIGHT? *Scrappy runs through the gate and ends up right where he was before* *Sadness spreads across his face* Shaggy: You know, I think I just might have got it! A window! *Shaggy walks through the gate and actually ends up INSIDE the mansion's grounds. Scrappy follows disheartendly* Shaggy: I definitely preferred being on the other side of that gate! What do you do now? A) Text the others the password to the gate and wait for them to arrive. B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. C) Both (reduction in clue searching ability!) | ||
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On January 10 2014 17:39 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I didn't read his opening post as town at all. This is actually my second forum game too but you didn't see me trying to use that to gain favor in my intro post, I actually started trying to find scum. I still think Derrida is likely scum until he responds to my concerns or provides something that reads more town to me. I really don't like my arguments being misrepresented by either you or HolyFlare, but I still think the way HolyFlare reacted to my pressure read more townie than the way a mafia might react. I will say that I think HolyFlare's logic for why he is confirmed town for getting to L-1 is circumstantial evidence in my opinion. Three people scumread him and three people had nothing to say about him. I don't think that in-of-itself reads anything but null. There is nothing circumstantial whatsoever. My alignment is confirmed to myself (and others if they read the game(s)) and so I can remove myself from the equation. There is not a chance in sweet sweet hell that a bus occurs that fast into the day based on the same evidence appearing from every person on that wagon with such little filter from a person. No credit would be gained and they lose a potential ally. So either he is scum in which case rayn or giggletummy are mafia (something that doesn't seem that likely so far) or he is town (which is much much more probable) and by process of elimination at least 1 mafia are in the group of Templar, Artanis and Mocsta. | ||
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On January 10 2014 17:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote: That might work for you but from my perspective the probability is flipped. Either Mocsta or Artanis bussed him (unlikely) or he's scum with any of You/Giggle/Rayn. You can retrieve scum reads from 8 posts of a filter? I'm am quite seriously impressed. You seem to KNOW that the guy is scum despite me linking an ACTUAL scum game of his from his last newbie game that looks nothing like this one so far. | ||
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On January 10 2014 17:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 10 2014 05:09 Derrida wrote: ^ Agreed, I am disliking this amount of fluff. We need to get back to reads. What do you guys think about Artanis playing along with the Scooby Doo scheme? How is this not a specific accusation? Or a specific question or whatever? I think it pretty clearly reads he is concerned about Artanis' play and wants to know what other people think about it. no? How is asking "what do you guys think of X doing Y?" an accusation? It's an extremely safe way to look like you're contributing to the discussion without actually putting yourself out in the open for anyone to read you or committing to any viewpoints. On January 10 2014 04:53 Giggletummy wrote: What intentions and consequences do you ascribe to his posting? On January 10 2014 03:57 Giggletummy wrote: Any purely speculative thoughts based on people searching or not searching? On January 10 2014 05:11 Giggletummy wrote: GGTeMpLaR, LIGHTNING ROUND TIME. HF's buddy plays along or sits silently while HF posts? On January 10 2014 07:38 Giggletummy wrote: Show nested quote + Cuz HolyFlare came into the game and made a spectacle of himself. For a couple hours into the game, that's still going to be townie for me.On January 10 2014 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote: On January 10 2014 06:26 Giggletummy wrote: I don't like that artanis is content to just play dog. There's no real rush on the day, but whereas you messed around and tried to get other people to mess around (townie), artanis is content to do nothing more than mess around. I don't count the non-me bark as not messing around. He also has 2 brackets in his name, and we have 2 scum. After this post you joke around some more with HolyFlare who still hasn't given a read despite me pinging him. Artanis actually gave a scum read (or at least, that's what I read into his barking at Derrida as) that I agree with. At least he's playing the game while trolling. HolyFlare is still trying to recruit people into his mysteryvan. How do you read Artanis scummy over HolyFlare and Derrida? Artanis DID do a little read-giving, which I like more than what rayn has done. But I don't view him barking and whatnot as determinative of anything. His more recent post looks better. Derrida sounds like Doritos. On January 10 2014 09:00 Giggletummy wrote: mocsta, any comment on the derrida suspicions? These all fall under the same category of what you attribute to Deridadadadada being scum. Yet this guy has significantly more trolly posts inbetween and a substantially larger filter. Why is he not your target instead? | ||
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On January 10 2014 18:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote: On January 10 2014 17:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote: That might work for you but from my perspective the probability is flipped. Either Mocsta or Artanis bussed him (unlikely) or he's scum with any of You/Giggle/Rayn. You can retrieve scum reads from 8 posts of a filter? I'm am quite seriously impressed. You seem to KNOW that the guy is scum despite me linking an ACTUAL scum game of his from his last newbie game that looks nothing like this one so far. Two of the posts, especially the one we're discussing right now read very scummy to me. I'm still waiting for his actual response. Right now he is the strongest scum-tell I have. I haven't actually read through the filter of the last game and compared it to the filter from this one yet. I'm not sure how valuable it will prove with such a low sample size and the fact that people are likely to change their play from game to game, especially during their first few games, so even if it is a different style I'm not willing to clear him based on that fact alone. Are you claiming scum or something? You just admit to having not read his previous game and so haven't actually looked at his posting style at all yet still try and state an informed opinion on this game. These are VASTLY different styles and there are only 8 posts. So why did you feel the need to add votes to him in an IML game with 7 people before he could even respond based off only 8 posts do you have extra information that we don't? | ||
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On January 10 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare who's Giggletummy's scumbuddy? Mocsta soft-bussing? Seems good to you? Mocsta seems very buddy buddy with giggle, weirdly so. A lot of people were around (yes a lot of it was scooby related at the time) but he took his time out from trolling to only address Giggle posts. I like to think Mocsta has a longing crush on giggle too, evidence can be found: On January 10 2014 09:56 Mocsta wrote: But you aren't the medic. *goes off to cry in a corner* @Giggly/WoS Where'd ya go? He only addresses people that he knows (me and artanis etc) with heuristics from voice games (yes, elements of trolling etc etc) but doesn't attempt to involve us in discussion either in favour of discussion with giggle (who I've just proven to be... not so towny looking). I don't like mocsta's vote either (was it L-1 or L-2??) he gets frustrated in voice games when people start voting so fast and he should know not to do it in a forum game without discussion especially as there is ample time to discuss. His case was also very lackluster. | ||
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On January 10 2014 17:36 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 16:39 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 10 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote: Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]) *growls* A) Try the front gate DUH! *wags tail* Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH! Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. ![]() A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Decision reached: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. Scrappy and Shaggy edge up to the ominous looking gate with the crow sitting on top. Shaggy: I got a real bad feeling about this Scrappy. Scrappy: PUPPPYYYYYYY POWERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrappy charges into the gate headfirst! It swings open and the crow flies away. It turns it's head in the distance and Shaggy swears he see's the eyes of a human staring right back at him. Shaggy: Don't... no! Don't go. Come on, Scrappy Doo, don't do this. Please, don't go. Scrappy: Ghosts don't stand a chance with me! Let me at em!!! Let me at em!!! --------Scrappy and Shaggy walk through the gate only to end up on the same side they started on---------- Shaggy: Like, what's going on Scrappy? I could have sworn we were just here. *Scrappy tries again and again* Scrappy: I don't get it Shaggy, every time I go through the gate I end up back here again! Shaggy: Like, let's get out of here! *Shaggy and Scrappy turn around only to see the same gate now in front of them once again* Shaggy: Mary Jane isn't really helping right now! Scrappy:Who is she Shaggy? Shaggy: Just a timeless friend. How do we get out of here??? *Scrappy eyes some words on the gate bars* Scrappy: It says: Show nested quote + If an exit is what you require, then solve this riddle and obtain your desire! "There is an ancient invention still used in some parts of the world today that allows people to see through walls. What is it?" A correct answer from either of you will be acceptable. Scrappy: Shaggy, OH SHAGGY! I KNOW IT! IT'S A HAMMER, RIGHT RIGHT? *Scrappy runs through the gate and ends up right where he was before* *Sadness spreads across his face* Shaggy: You know, I think I just might have got it! A window! *Shaggy walks through the gate and actually ends up INSIDE the mansion's grounds. Scrappy follows disheartendly* Shaggy: I definitely preferred being on the other side of that gate! What do you do now? A) Text the others the password to the gate and wait for them to arrive. B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. C) Both (reduction in clue searching ability!) ![]() On January 10 2014 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Team [S]crappy[S]haggy will do the following: B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. Shaggy and Scrappy proceed further into the grounds only to realise they have no actual idea where they have ended up. Shaggy: We appear to be lost. I knew I shoulda just waited for the guys! Scrappy: No problem Shaggy. I can get us out of here! If I knew where here was..... Scrappy and Shaggy look around and to their dismay it is hedges as far as their eyes can see. It appears they have stumbled into a maze!! ![]() Complete this maze (in paint or whatevs) and post back here with the finished result! | ||
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On January 10 2014 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why not Artanis. I think i get what ziziyo is saying about his original suspicion on you and to me it seems like a tiwnie thought process which is really hard to emulate as mafia. Artanis is a dog at the moment and his vote on Derrida was kinda shit too because he didn't justify it and it was a +1. Meh. They can't all be scum ~_~ I can switch artanis for giggle or mocsta to be honest. It's early and there isn't enough for me to go on properly until I can talk to them or they actually participate in finding scooby and velma T_T! | ||
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On January 10 2014 19:22 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 12:56 Derrida wrote: I am town you noobs, unvote me. Currently 5 am here just woke up because my cat is horny and meowing her ass off, do not, I repeat do not lynch me and I will try to provide some good reads intfhe morning. Official Callout. The morning has passed and I'm still waiting for this to come to fruition. I'm sure your words are reaching him. In another note, that is a totally useless post, what did you hope to achieve? | ||
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On January 10 2014 18:54 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 17:36 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 16:39 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 10 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote: Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]) *growls* A) Try the front gate DUH! *wags tail* Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH! Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. ![]() A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Decision reached: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. Scrappy and Shaggy edge up to the ominous looking gate with the crow sitting on top. Shaggy: I got a real bad feeling about this Scrappy. Scrappy: PUPPPYYYYYYY POWERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrappy charges into the gate headfirst! It swings open and the crow flies away. It turns it's head in the distance and Shaggy swears he see's the eyes of a human staring right back at him. Shaggy: Don't... no! Don't go. Come on, Scrappy Doo, don't do this. Please, don't go. Scrappy: Ghosts don't stand a chance with me! Let me at em!!! Let me at em!!! --------Scrappy and Shaggy walk through the gate only to end up on the same side they started on---------- Shaggy: Like, what's going on Scrappy? I could have sworn we were just here. *Scrappy tries again and again* Scrappy: I don't get it Shaggy, every time I go through the gate I end up back here again! Shaggy: Like, let's get out of here! *Shaggy and Scrappy turn around only to see the same gate now in front of them once again* Shaggy: Mary Jane isn't really helping right now! Scrappy:Who is she Shaggy? Shaggy: Just a timeless friend. How do we get out of here??? *Scrappy eyes some words on the gate bars* Scrappy: It says: Show nested quote + If an exit is what you require, then solve this riddle and obtain your desire! "There is an ancient invention still used in some parts of the world today that allows people to see through walls. What is it?" A correct answer from either of you will be acceptable. Scrappy: Shaggy, OH SHAGGY! I KNOW IT! IT'S A HAMMER, RIGHT RIGHT? *Scrappy runs through the gate and ends up right where he was before* *Sadness spreads across his face* Shaggy: You know, I think I just might have got it! A window! *Shaggy walks through the gate and actually ends up INSIDE the mansion's grounds. Scrappy follows disheartendly* Shaggy: I definitely preferred being on the other side of that gate! What do you do now? A) Text the others the password to the gate and wait for them to arrive. B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. C) Both (reduction in clue searching ability!) ![]() Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Team [S]crappy[S]haggy will do the following: B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. Shaggy and Scrappy proceed further into the grounds only to realise they have no actual idea where they have ended up. Shaggy: We appear to be lost. I knew I shoulda just waited for the guys! Scrappy: No problem Shaggy. I can get us out of here! If I knew where here was..... Scrappy and Shaggy look around and to their dismay it is hedges as far as their eyes can see. It appears they have stumbled into a maze!! ![]() Complete this maze (in paint or whatevs) and post back here with the finished result! Shaggy and Scrappy reach the end of the maze! You found Scooby Doo's collar!!!! Scrappy: Oh boy! Oh boy! It's Scooby's collar! Shaggy: SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB! *A note is attached to the ring on the collar* ![]() *Shaggy texts the gang and then both Shaggy and Scrappy return to the gate for the others* + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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On January 10 2014 20:58 Derrida wrote: Good reply. Read the game before you make a case. | ||
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On January 10 2014 21:06 Derrida wrote: Please share the alignments you have figured out so far with the help of your scheme. Who are the two scums according to your analysis? EVEN IF you are townie, a game that helps only one person to figure out alignments does not benefit the town at all. As an inexperienced mafia player it has only clogged the game for me. Anyway, previously you stated you have a townie++++ read on me, yet reply to Mocsta's calling me out by What the hell is this supposed to mean? Mocsta "officially called you out" rofl. What benefit does typing that post have on the game in any way? Does it make you arrive at the thread any quicker? No. Does it propose new ideas on why he thinks you are scum? No. Does it solve the rest of the game if you are scum? No. It was a totally useless post that filled time and had no net benefit to posting it - something scum typically do. Also, If you don't know who I am calling scum THEN YOU HAVE NOT READ THE GAME. I have 4 pages of filter and all you have to do is click on it and find out that really, the last 2 pages of my filter have been almost all analysis on trying to solve the game. So to return to the thread with your half-assed accusation on me with blatant disregard to the entirety of what's gone on in your absence really REALLY makes me reconsider my read on you. | ||
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I would be gathering A LOT more information from people playing scooby doo if they actually played along instead of criticising it. I have already gained much information based on responses though so it has most definitely had a net benefit. | ||
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You are also ignoring a lot of what has been going on. If I am scum, why does templar then become scum too? You state that the person that is most against scooby doo is most likely scum but that was not templar as he /in'd to the game. That would be giggle and thus I must be bussing which is also retarded in this setup. When you misquote my actual analysis to make it look worse you are only looking worse yourself when people reread the game | ||
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The fact you are bringing this up and investing so much of your time into discrediting me rather than scum hunting is cute though. Derrida is clearly a worse candidate for association cases but there really isn't much mention of him at all from you recently. Derrida almost got lynched today but you haven't been asking him questions or addressing that situation at all. Do you not want to solve the game? | ||
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On January 11 2014 02:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Derrida is not obviously town Any town who says so is a clown My suspects I have told On Giggletummy and Mocsta I am not sold Your posts contain unnaturally high amounts of fluff For you to be town, it is tough Interest in continuing this conduct, I am not You are scum, you have been caught. Why have you imposed a self restricting posting style which adds nothing to helping us determine what you are? Talking in verse is obviously not helpful to us and you are accusing rayn who is arguably doing the most at the moment. Why are you not discussing anything else with anyone? You're playing your own game of "J'accuse!" but not actually participating in a game of mafia. Please explain to me your distaste of both Giggletummy and Mocsta. | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:36 Giggletummy wrote: Show nested quote + On January 11 2014 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well my associations are that 2 of you/Mocsta/Artanis are scum because other people are town. dealwithit. none of you three is making better posts than two other and you all fail to give your reads on the other two. ![]() On January 11 2014 03:39 Giggletummy wrote: The game is already solved. We just need to convince cora to let us see the solution. Next, rayn follows a thought process of "eliminate town people and find scum", this is when his next dragon enters the field (the speak about 3 random reads thing), he eliminated town reads down to his 3 scum reads and tried to make them talk about each other to further narrow down the suspects. Yet, surprisingly, those 3 provide VERY VERY lackluster responses about the other 2. Mocsta's reply: On January 10 2014 19:33 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can still talk about WoS and Scraptanis no? Yeah I could, but there is no point having active fronts open with 3/4 of the game. FYI, I have already engaged in dialogue with WoS/GigglyTummy and am waiting a response. /BBL (already seen giggletummy pretty much ignore it too) artanis' reply: On January 11 2014 01:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 11 2014 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: So are you going to give your reads on Giggletummy *lays down* *lays down* *wags tail* all 3 of these people provide the shittest responses anyone could ever imagine to rayn trying to solve the game, artanis even goes so far as to ACCUSE rayn of doing nothing???? When nobody wants to participate in fucking finding scum of course it limits our options. Yet, not, his vote is on the person who is displaying towny thought processes and is playing the game rather than elaborate on Mocsta/Giggletummy. Scum is definitely within these 3. | ||
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On January 11 2014 06:19 Derrida wrote: ##unvote Please explain? | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:16 Giggletummy wrote: @HF Show nested quote + It's not an assumption. I personally find all the extra fluff to be anti-town. It adds pages, provides things to do for people that aren't scumhunting (even if you are using it for a purpose), and it fluffs your filter up. It also encourages rayn to add fluff now too. Regardless of what posting scooby doo stuff does for you, it has an effect on the rest of the thread, and it may not be helpful for everyone. Let alone the fact that people aren't "assuming" your scooby doo stuff to be anti-town, some people just think it is. Not an assumption, an opinion. For instance, I think it's anti-town right now.On January 10 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote: Why is everyone assuming that scooby doo is ANTI-town? It helps me figure out alignments, it has generated A LOT of discussion over it for analysis and you can all have fun in the process! That is the most pro town thing that can be done. You also quite clearly have not read this game up to date if you think it has wasted any time at all, coupled with the fact that you think I haven't been participating my previous read on you is rapidly dwindling. Show nested quote + For instance, this is your opinion. You would be in a better spot if people played along. But other people may disagree. They're not assuming differently, they're not necessarily scummy for disagreeing, you are both assuming different things. I would be gathering A LOT more information from people playing scooby doo if they actually played along instead of criticising it. I have already gained much information based on responses though so it has most definitely had a net benefit. @everyone that isn't HF, #HF Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 21:16 Holyflare wrote: I know you're new and are learning the ropes but a connection theory between 2 unflipped players is generally regarded as really bad in the community as you are basing your entire read on unknown information. So when you come back saying that I am your scum read so there has to be a scum who take takes the opposite stance to me is verging on the crazy. You can't possibly know that UNLESS 1 of the scum is actually taking a stance against me and you are using that information for your attack on me. Show nested quote + *friendly rhinoceros noises*On January 10 2014 21:20 Derrida wrote: Jesus, I have read your god damn filter. Mocsta seems very buddy buddy with giggle, weirdly so. I can see a team of Giggle/Mocsta/Templar (obviously eliminating one) although judged on exp of mafia games (I don't think i've seen templar play?) he looks more tunelled than anything else and also seems confused about the implications of the setup whereas Mocsta definitely knows better. At an early stage such as now a Giggle/Mocsta team is looking mighty plausible. This is not analysis, this is just babbling. Do you honestly expect two scums to act like buddies at the start of the game? I don't think anyone can be this naive, you are just swinging wild accusations based on what? "exp of mafia games"? what does that even mean? Please provide clear and logical analysis before accusing people of not reading the game. *goes into a pet shop, buys scooby snacks and a clicker* Holyflare attacks derrida for drawing conclusions between unflipped players. Holyflare has been drawing conclusions between unflipped players. Derrida does not turn hard on this and bop HF, but it's there. I don't care who you are; that's scummy right there. Why have you told people to vote me based on stuff that wasn't even true but not put a vote down yourself? | ||
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On January 11 2014 08:10 Giggletummy wrote: Specifically, I do think you've drawn some associations between players. You certainly have, in looking at who mocsta did or didn't respond to. Grabbing derrida's other game makes you look good though, and I agree with your statements that the two filters look different. That act alone is more than enough to make you a poor D1 lynch candidate in my opinion. Are you trying to portray my "associative tells" as bad because acting differently to a certain person is definitely substantial compared to derrida who drew associative tells based on.....? Yes, absolutely nothing. Yet you jumped on ME for that instead of him. Why is that? Why have you still failed to address anything that has happened surrounding derrida's almost lynch, his scummyness of his first posts to some people or his play thus far. All you have done is pretty much +1 what i've been saying now. | ||
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Mocsta Here is his filter in B2B. (I suggest reading up to page 4 or 5 to get a general jist of how he hunts for scum as town) Notice on pages 3 and 4 how he initiates discussion about EVERY player that he thinks is scummy or worth mentioning, now, once you have read that I want you to reread everything that has happened in his filter in this game, Mocsta's filter. I specifically want to draw your attention to his attitude in this game, specifically all the aura of not giving a crap what happens. Look at this for example: On January 10 2014 19:33 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can still talk about WoS and Scraptanis no? Yeah I could, but there is no point having active fronts open with 3/4 of the game. FYI, I have already engaged in dialogue with WoS/GigglyTummy and am waiting a response. /BBL There is a COMPLETE change in his attitude between this game and that. Why does he refuse to participate in discussion? Another scum tell is posting for the sake of posting which I brought up before: On January 10 2014 19:22 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 12:56 Derrida wrote: I am town you noobs, unvote me. Currently 5 am here just woke up because my cat is horny and meowing her ass off, do not, I repeat do not lynch me and I will try to provide some good reads intfhe morning. Official Callout. The morning has passed and I'm still waiting for this to come to fruition. We already know that he is suspicious of Derrida because of his vote on him and intent to lynch based on being the L-1 vote. Yet, what does this post achieve? Absolutely nothing. Derrida isn't going to feel threatened by it, it doesn't attempt to solve the game and it doesn't add anything to anyones capacity to read himself. So why do it? It's an attempt to appear to post while actually not caring about the game. Typical attitude of rolling scum when you don't want to. To the people that may not know mocsta well, we play voice mafia an awful lot on the TL teamspeak and so I know how frustrated he gets when he is town and people pile onto a person without discussion and end up quick voting off people in an instant majority lynch. Yet, here we are in this game and he votes a person with 8 posts in his filter with the intent to lynch him by being the L-1 voter. That is extremely dangerous and I know he knows better than to do that without more information as town. ##Vote Mocsta | ||
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On January 11 2014 10:44 Giggletummy wrote: Mocsta has played enough town games that I'd like to look through more than just the one, but noted. Second point I don't care about, because following up on a suspicion or pointing out broken promises often a townie thing to do, shows he's staying with his read, knows what Derrida has been saying, and is trying to get more out of Derrida. Voice mafia stuff or IML stuff I can't comment on. So your conclusion....? | ||
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This attitude of straight out accusing people without developing reads and not giving a shit about what anyone says is indicative of scum mocsta. Just because his attitude is different from both his town and scum games does not mean that his actions are NOT scummy. | ||
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This attitude of straight out accusing people without developing reads and not giving a shit about what anyone says is indicative of scum mocsta. Just because his attitude is different from both his town and scum games does not mean that his actions are NOT scummy. In fact, now that I think about it, his attitude is very VERY like mine was in B2B. | ||
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On January 11 2014 13:28 Giggletummy wrote: Your case/vote was B2B comparison + followup on derrida + voice mafia/IML comments. I can't prove or disprove the voice mafia/IML comments, but it would be curious for you to lie about that. I disagree with your characterization of following up with derrida saying he'd do something. So I'm left with the B2B comparison to consider. Yes, mocsta's lazier attitude does not make him not scum, but it makes your case look weaker, because you didn't present those thoughts before. You just compared his play to one town game and went with that. I'm not playing a 1 on 1 game with you so when I make a statement I expect you to do research to verify whether my claims are true or not in regards to meta because that is what a sensible towny would do and it allows me to see who is putting effort into this game. You can look into games where he is both scum and town I do not need to provide all the evidence because based on Mocsta's post I can pretty much confirm him as scum in my mind so I find it INCREDIBLY suspicious that he is your favourite out of me/rayn/him. | ||
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On January 11 2014 13:42 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On January 11 2014 13:37 Derrida wrote: Guys, Derrida confirmed town, come on. I wish posting screenshots of inbox was not banned. Aside from that, I am trying to read through the other games you guys played together, which is a stupidly enormous task on its own, it's like playing 3-4 mafia games simultaneously. As I'm the newbie here, could someone summarize me why a player's attitude in previous games matter? I would assume we are all above-average intelligent people here who could take on a new persona in every new game, no? The issue is Derrida that HF thinks he knows me from playing numerous games of voice mafia together so has put together what he considers a personality thing. What he doesnt add into his consideration (whether intentionally or not) is that Im not meant to be playing mafia this yaer. I said my last game woudl be my last. I changed my mind for some personal reasons, but my willingness/time committments are different. His meta case is terrible because its based on outdated information. My issue with him is how he has used a forced read on you as a medium to pursue other people. I find that scummy. Rayn has done the same thing. I think Artanis looks better for sticking to his guns in general. I still havent read your posts in detail so my scum subset is {Derrida, Rayn, HF}. Like this post is SO full of crap, it's actually funny. Whether he decides to play or not in this game adds no relevance to the past present or future or any of your reads. It is wholly meant to discredit what I am saying. The REAL REAL issue I have with his post is this: His meta case is terrible because its based on outdated information. My issue with him is how he has used a forced read on you as a medium to pursue other people. I find that scummy. Rayn has done the same thing. The case I linked (B2B is a very very recent game with him and I in it), the game I talked about where we rolled scum was LXIII Here is Mocsta's filter seeing as this was also the most recent game (LXIV only just started today) I find it ridiculous that he says his that it is in fact "outdated" when it is most definitely not. Now, to top that all off here are things that he does that do not follow a logical towny thought process in this post: 1. As you all remember his only contributions this game have been calling out Derrida and voting him. You'd think on his return to the thread the first thing he'd be looking out for was posts on the way that Derrida has made to confirm or refute his thought process. The fact that his first post states that he has not read posts from Derrida in detail is a red flag for me. I still havent read your posts in detail so my scum subset is {Derrida, Rayn, HF}. 2. For someone who was SO SO confident that Derrida was scum (he never took his vote off Derrida after he put it on there) and was allowing him to be hammered (even if he didn't know what the votes were - he should make it 100% certain as town because he has intent to lynch) based on 8 posts in his filter, the thing that would be on Mocsta's mind is that Derrida is most likely/probably scum from his perspective and so when you read the post at the top his interaction with Derrida would be aprehensive/taken aback/not trying to convince Derrida that I am scum because of discrediting his post. Yet, as we can see this is quite clearly not the case, his words act like he's trying to tell Derrida that I am scummy rather than the reaction that Mocsta should of had if he was town. On January 11 2014 13:36 Giggletummy wrote: HF have you played many games with rayn? Yes, I have played many many games with rayn and so when I say I will not lynch him 100% today I mean it because I think the thought process he has laid out makes him look more towny and the vote switching that people usually accredit to scum are staple rayn moves as both alignments so that should be a non-alignment indicative action. In fact that indecision is what I see rayn do when he doesn't know what to think between his choices. All I can say to the rest of you is that what reason does someone have to switch their votes all the time as scum? You can say he would be trying to start a wagon on someone by throwing shit at people and seeing what sticks but where is he pushing everyone to vote his targets? It isn't happening. He's got a read of potentially 3 people and when they do something that he thinks is scummy he votes that person. | ||
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On January 11 2014 12:35 Giggletummy wrote: Why not tonight? You, HF, mocsta probably have a scum or two in there, keep on fighting and let's pick out the scum! This is also a ridiculous thing to say. If I was scum I could just bandwagon on with the rest of the people that were voting Derrida (who I think is town) and nobody would think anything of it because the majority of the people on the wagon wouldn't think too heavily on that individual action yet here he is still alive and kicking. You still have not even mentioned that lynch whatsoever other than to stop it. Why is that? Is there no information to be gathered from that entire debacle? Why should there "probably" be a scum between me,rayn and mocsta? There is no basis for this statement, no justification and you expect us to follow it? If you are thinking that there is scum between one of us 3 why have you only gone so far as to research Mocsta's meta so deeply yet have not looked into me and rayn (but we are your scummy reads right and mocsta isn't really anymore?) but still call us scummy. Why should I be the one telling you about rayn's games and putting in all the work. Why don't you convince ME of a read instead of driving on asking questions with no real conclusions. | ||
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On January 11 2014 14:00 Giggletummy wrote: The newbie filter is worth looking at because bright-eyed fresh mocsta was using all sorts of bold and italics and lists and making these giant headings and just prettying up his posts. And now he is a grizzled infantryman, down in the trenches, posting nary a space or punctuation mark, and sometimes he only types in wingdings. At least some of this post contains true statements. His initial post in LXIII has headings and colours and fonts, guess what, he was scum. I am not looking into a newbie game when he has played well over 10 other games that he has evolved in. His most recent games are by far the most representative. It's his actions in this game that contain many red flags: 1) Not caring if I vote him 2) Not forming a case on me (when he thinks I am scum..?) but instead just trying to discredit invdividual parts of the argument instead (classic tell of scum vs town) 3) Voting someone with 8 posts in a game without allowing him to defend despite his meta of hating people that do that (artanis and rayn can confirm) 4) His quite clear dislike of me forming a read based on personality from voice mafia: The issue is Derrida that HF thinks he knows me from playing numerous games of voice mafia together so has put together what he considers a personality thing. However at the beginning of the game he said: On January 10 2014 02:33 Mocsta wrote: Too much voice mafia influence I think here :S but then very soon after that was quite comfortable slipping back into the groove of trolling (even though posts were starting to get more serious) by stating random things from voice mafia: On January 10 2014 08:47 Mocsta wrote: HF in an attempt to copy Rayn ##hide On January 10 2014 08:51 Mocsta wrote: HF How come you didnt claim medic? On January 10 2014 08:51 Mocsta wrote: Artanis How come you didnt claim jester? | ||
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2) Not forming a case on me (when he thinks I am scum..?) but instead just trying to discredit invdividual parts of the argument instead (classic tell of scum vs town) should read:2) Not forming a case on me (when he thinks I am scum..?) but instead just trying to discredit invdividual parts of the argument TO HIS ORIGINAL TOP SCUM READ (classic tell of scum vs town) | ||
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Accusation: - Weak cases - Opportune efforts to jump onto players - Misrepresented logic to force a read - Overt commitment on early reads - Conveniently ignores evidence that works against him. - Over exerting "our" time together. What HF doesn't tell you in our combined scum game is that *I* lasted 48hrs and didn't interact with him. Yet he thinks he has the keys to my head. - Made 1 proper case this game only on Mocsta - I haven't jumped on anyone other than Mocsta and it most certainly isn't opportune when people's consensus was NOT on him - I made an initial read that Derrida was town based on the wagon that was formed, I inflated it incredibly to be confirmed town to see who would react to things like that. You think I can outright confirm someone just like that without having a plan? - Not really sure where this has ocurred - Just because I don't have the keys to his head does not mean I haven't read his other games. I am good at analysing IMO and this is what information I've gathered over my time playing with him. His case is baseless (it's not even a case as there is no factual evidence........?), his read on Derrida has now come to the same conclusion that I had stated already, in fact his whole read is pretty much based on what I've been saying. Also, why would I want Derrida's trust lolololol? He has 1 newbie game and 0 influence. Best partner to gain trust. | ||
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On January 11 2014 15:43 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On January 11 2014 15:16 Holyflare wrote: Another anecdote for you guys; Mocsta is being incredibly hypocritical for calling me scum because I'm "not taking into account his lack of care", he quite literally knows I have exams on Monday and Tuesday that I am studying for (as I have repeated it many times and just pulled out of a LoL game with him so I can study for it) yet here I am STILL trying to post and solve the game and I have posted the most in this game so far. Why would I be doing that when I have NO time to play whatsoever? He doesn't even think about situations, reasons, meta, anything. Just that I'm totes scummy. I'm working on a $300million project that is behind schedule. I still find time to post as town or scum. Stop laying on the excuses. Now look at the difference between our posting content and say the same thing. | ||
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On January 11 2014 17:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote: ##Vote: Mocsta What was the scum slip in his post you mentioned before? | ||
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On January 11 2014 22:32 Derrida wrote: Anyway I think Mocsta is town because this selfvote coincides with this post in the other mafia game. He just wants to get out of this game and focus on that one. You don't know his alignment in this game you don't know his alignment in that game. So why does he want to play in that game more? He's playing equally bad in that game too. Also if he wants to self vote out of this one isn't that also indicative of a caught scum that wants to end the day quicker so we get no information? | ||
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On January 12 2014 02:30 Giggletummy wrote: Show nested quote + I like fun games more than won games. If I have to lose some games or put myself in a worse position in order to discourage certain behavior that makes the game less fun for everyone (screw everyone, I'm killing myself because I cba to do anything), I will. With a smile on my face. Do it enough and perhaps people will knock it off.On January 12 2014 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote: So Giggletummy you are voting for a guy you think is town. Why is that? Show nested quote + Townies get frustrated and do stupid things. There are more townies, they feel expendable, they feel like they don't want to play the game. There are only two scum. They are not expendable. They feel very scared, because if either of them dies, the other guy is all alone. He's not a scum team anymore, he's a shipwreck survivor clinging to a floating log and trying to survive in the ocean. I'd expect self hammering to come from town based on that.On January 12 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote: How is self hammering a green indicative thing to do in any instant majority lynch????? Has everyone gone crazy? He has quite clearly mentioned that he does not give a shit what happens this game. The conclusive proof that he is scum is that he has 2 scum reads, a team that he has constructed of Rayn and me. The votes that were on him were me, Rayn and Artanis. That is 2 of his scum reads voting him so why would he choose to self vote in that situation instead of hammer on with his rhetoric of how me and rayn are scum and it should be obvious from this vote? I'll tell you why. It's because he knows that he is all but dead and wants to leave this game sooner rather than later. You are valuing his care for his team mate way more than you should. How about analysing what I've actually been saying instead of using the wifomy martyr as your basis for a town read? | ||
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On January 12 2014 05:19 Derrida wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2014 03:35 Giggletummy wrote: I would argue, and have argued, that a town player is more likely to not want to play than a scum player. So I do think it points more towards town than scum. You may disagree, and do. I recognize that I am likely overvaluing that argument, but I do stand by it. Completely agree. This bandwagon on Mocsta is starting to feel increasingly scummy. You are actually both wrong. A town player most likely does not want to participate LATER on in the game. A towny on day 1 who has both of his scum team accusations on his wagon does not EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER self hammer. This is beyond ridiculous that you can think like this. | ||
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On January 12 2014 06:23 Giggletummy wrote: Show nested quote + There are 5 townies. There are 2 scum. Anyone who just frankly doesn't want to play a game of mafia is more likely to be town than mafia. Barring certain players with a reputation for hating playing scum, which I don't believe mocsta has, in any game a person who just gives up is more likely town.On January 12 2014 05:58 Holyflare wrote: On January 12 2014 05:19 Derrida wrote: On January 12 2014 03:35 Giggletummy wrote: I would argue, and have argued, that a town player is more likely to not want to play than a scum player. So I do think it points more towards town than scum. You may disagree, and do. I recognize that I am likely overvaluing that argument, but I do stand by it. Completely agree. This bandwagon on Mocsta is starting to feel increasingly scummy. You are actually both wrong. A town player most likely does not want to participate LATER on in the game. A towny on day 1 who has both of his scum team accusations on his wagon does not EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER self hammer. This is beyond ridiculous that you can think like this. I think they both exhibit different behavior as well. A scum player who does not want to play can just lurk. He's not helping his team, but at the very least he's not hurting it, and he 100% doesn't have to do jack. Town players may exhibit more frustration, fight getting lynched, give up, whatever. Personal opinion on this bit. You just practically gave reasons WHY mocsta is scum. Let's look at the facts. 1) Start of game trolling 2) Wagon starts on Derrida who has 8 posts 3) Mocsta joins wagon to make it L-1 and tells us we should actively discuss before we L-2 and L-1, doesn't really discuss (says about misreading votes... yeh sure) 4) Leaves vote on Derrida whilst others unvote and discuss - does not participate in discussion, instead trolls that he is confirmed town after I say it. Why does he retort with a troll when I say that I'm giving Derrida confirmed town status? It's because it's 1 less player for me to target later in the game and he can't target that guy anymore. 5) REMAINS A LURKER AND POSTS NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE 6) Only returns when accused of being scum only to accuse the 2 active people. 7) Addresses his original scum read (derrida) as a towny and tries to convince him that I am wrong 8) Responds with the worst posts ever when called out 9) Self votes and afk's when he is in fact not dead THERE IS LITERALLY NO REASON TO DEFEND HIM | ||
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On January 12 2014 08:48 Corazon wrote: Night 1 Mocsta was sitting in the back of the mystery machine, wondering how he could gain Holyflare's favor. All of a sudden, an idea came to him. "I know, I'll bribe him with Scooby Snax! He'll love those!" Unfortunately, they were Really Small, so small that Holyflare was not impressed with Mocsta, and proceeded to send Scooby's twin brother, Scary, to eat Mocsta. That didn't go so well for Mocsta. Mocsta, as a Mafia Goon, has been lynched! It is now night 1. Please send me your night actions. The night will last between 6-24 hours, with a 2 hour warning before the start of the day. I think i love you | ||
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On January 12 2014 09:12 Derrida wrote: I would argue that we need to look at people who voted first or second on Mocsta, or didn't vote him at all (though i think this is less likely). From my first game as scum, I think the scum reflex would make it so that if there was a strong case being built against Mocsta the other scum would jump on the bandwagon early on. 3rd vote is just too dangerous, and 4th vote is me. why not anyone you know... not on the mocsta wagon? | ||
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On January 12 2014 09:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 12 2014 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 12 2014 09:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote: On January 12 2014 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 12 2014 08:49 Corazon wrote: Warning to Raynpelikoneet for this post: On January 12 2014 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: This game is filled with really fucking stupid people. This post was completely unnecessary, and you should know better than to post like this, Rayn. Sorry. :/ GGTeMpLaR or Artanis is mafia. Both can be lynched whoever dies. Doctor do not protect these guys. Giggletummy's posts make no sense from scum perspective if it was a bus. Derrida & Holyflare are quite town. I don't like this line of reasoning because I know I'm town and I still read Artanis as town as well. He was one of the first to vote on Mocsta. I don't think you can look into his unvote off Mocsta as scummy since he never really tried to get it onto anyone else. yeah he voted for Mocsta at the start of the game. Cool story. When Mocsta was in serious danger of being lynched he in fact did not want to vote for Mocsta. This is false, my vote was third your memory must be blurred. I unvoted after Mocsta's self vote to get stances on what he wrote. The fact you put the vote to L-1 must have meant you had the intent to lynch so why after his hammer did not go through do you suddenly want to ask him for stances on his posts instead of before the lynch? | ||
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2) I cannot get reads from inflections in your posting style if your posting style will remain in constant verse 3) Why can't you be scum? 4) Stop being "dumb" if you are town | ||
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By the way, I solved this yesterday. On January 10 2014 20:09 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 18:54 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 17:36 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 16:39 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 10 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote: Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]) *growls* A) Try the front gate DUH! *wags tail* Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH! Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. ![]() A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Decision reached: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. Scrappy and Shaggy edge up to the ominous looking gate with the crow sitting on top. Shaggy: I got a real bad feeling about this Scrappy. Scrappy: PUPPPYYYYYYY POWERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrappy charges into the gate headfirst! It swings open and the crow flies away. It turns it's head in the distance and Shaggy swears he see's the eyes of a human staring right back at him. Shaggy: Don't... no! Don't go. Come on, Scrappy Doo, don't do this. Please, don't go. Scrappy: Ghosts don't stand a chance with me! Let me at em!!! Let me at em!!! --------Scrappy and Shaggy walk through the gate only to end up on the same side they started on---------- Shaggy: Like, what's going on Scrappy? I could have sworn we were just here. *Scrappy tries again and again* Scrappy: I don't get it Shaggy, every time I go through the gate I end up back here again! Shaggy: Like, let's get out of here! *Shaggy and Scrappy turn around only to see the same gate now in front of them once again* Shaggy: Mary Jane isn't really helping right now! Scrappy:Who is she Shaggy? Shaggy: Just a timeless friend. How do we get out of here??? *Scrappy eyes some words on the gate bars* Scrappy: It says: Show nested quote + If an exit is what you require, then solve this riddle and obtain your desire! "There is an ancient invention still used in some parts of the world today that allows people to see through walls. What is it?" A correct answer from either of you will be acceptable. Scrappy: Shaggy, OH SHAGGY! I KNOW IT! IT'S A HAMMER, RIGHT RIGHT? *Scrappy runs through the gate and ends up right where he was before* *Sadness spreads across his face* Shaggy: You know, I think I just might have got it! A window! *Shaggy walks through the gate and actually ends up INSIDE the mansion's grounds. Scrappy follows disheartendly* Shaggy: I definitely preferred being on the other side of that gate! What do you do now? A) Text the others the password to the gate and wait for them to arrive. B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. C) Both (reduction in clue searching ability!) ![]() Show nested quote + On January 10 2014 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Team [S]crappy[S]haggy will do the following: B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. Shaggy and Scrappy proceed further into the grounds only to realise they have no actual idea where they have ended up. Shaggy: We appear to be lost. I knew I shoulda just waited for the guys! Scrappy: No problem Shaggy. I can get us out of here! If I knew where here was..... Scrappy and Shaggy look around and to their dismay it is hedges as far as their eyes can see. It appears they have stumbled into a maze!! ![]() Complete this maze (in paint or whatevs) and post back here with the finished result! Shaggy and Scrappy reach the end of the maze! You found Scooby Doo's collar!!!! Scrappy: Oh boy! Oh boy! It's Scooby's collar! Shaggy: SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB! *A note is attached to the ring on the collar* ![]() *Shaggy texts the gang and then both Shaggy and Scrappy return to the gate for the others* + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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You are scum, you played well for your second game of scum. Sleep easy young babe for it shall all be over soon. | ||
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L-1 so unvote cz i can | ||
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I could make a case but i don't need to because other people have eyes and some have some resemblance of brains. I'm also studying for my exams which were today and tomorrow. Your vote on rayn is.... Yeh Giggle why did you not vote templar when you just posted all of that? | ||
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##vote ggtemplar | ||
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On January 14 2014 11:54 Aquanim wrote: Everyone talking about Derrida being obvtown and making meta reads in LXIV was bloody awkward when I'd replaced into this slot >.< Still though GG, the game was fairly entertaining to read. I skipped over the scooby-doo stuff btw. ![]() Gogo reread! | ||
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On January 14 2014 11:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Show nested quote + On January 14 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote: Templar i had you as scum day 1 that clue i sent to rayn was legit reads. If you guys kept playing it would have gotten so much better! The thing that convinced me you were scum was that post you called scummy in your qt, i just couldn't spend time making cases because a) people didn't listen day 1 and b) i have exams. You shouldn't be afraid to call out your team mate as scummy when he does something genuinely scummy like that. which one? The one where mocsta self voted and you said he might be scum but rayn is more scummy the one with all the links to posts | ||
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