EPTA Quiet Game of Mini Mafia - Page 63
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raynpelikoneet
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thrawn2112
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On January 09 2014 15:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: thrawn tbh i can't see how you can possibly be town after that post.. u should figure it out | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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kushm4sta
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LOL rayn why do you want to policy me. it was pretty easy to catch me last game right? mental note - adding rayn to possible scummeers list | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On January 09 2014 15:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: thrawn let's talk about bugs. why do you think he might be scum? because early on he told everyone that nobody suspects him on D1, which I didn't so now I'm worried. tbh I haven't thought about it any more than that, would need to read his filter to tell you more. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On January 09 2014 15:57 thrawn2112 wrote: because early on he told everyone that nobody suspects him on D1, which I didn't so now I'm worried. tbh I haven't thought about it any more than that, would need to read his filter to tell you more. So if he looks town to people he is scum? That's what i get accused a lot of and that's retarded. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
i think it's null/town | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 09 2014 15:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Initial impressins post flip are that thrawn and bugs are scum (if both scum have indeed posted). I need to do some research. On January 09 2014 15:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean you could consider yamato scum on something like D6 is he is alive and has done nothing but right after lynch? Call the ONLY counter-wagon scum? Nah.. no way. IF ANYONE WANTS PROOF AS TO WHY THIS MENTALITY IS INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS: Go look at LIX (the one with FiveTouch as mayor) and Smurf Mini (in which GMarshal had us all playing under smurf names he created) In both games we had TWO scum on day 1. We killed one of them and then the other one lived for a really long time. In LIX it was okay because we just kept killing scum, in Smurf it was fucking awful because people attacked those who were on the counter wagon (like me) under the assumption that the counter wagon had to be town, even though the guy did nothing. You know what's funny? Last time the counter wagon was Yamato too. We just didn't know it cause it was a smurf game. He got replaced for inactivity and we never held him to any sort of standard because I ended up getting lynched for attacking him. Then we lost because no one knew where the scum were. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On January 09 2014 15:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: So if he looks town to people he is scum? That's what i get accused a lot of and that's retarded. actually I think you've even said it about yourself. so either you are also retarded or my paranoia is validated | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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wherebugsgo
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In fact I would say it is so stupid that it's even worse than someone coming up with an elaborate conspiracy that Yamato had to have bussed, because at the very least in the second case the player still leaves open the possibility of killing Yamato. In the first case it is nearly impossible to convince a player who has taken on the mentality that counter wagons have to be of opposite alignment to lynch someone like that later in the game when it is completely obvious that you have no choice left. | ||
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wherebugsgo
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raynpelikoneet
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On January 09 2014 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: No thrawn, thinking someone is mafia because they look town is stupid. It really is, if someone looks town they are probablytown. I have no amazing reason to think he is town so that is why he can't be knocked off a list of possible scum. Do you think wbg looks town? I don't like how much lecturing about how to play mafia goes into his posts and he isn't even talking about reasons for why people could be scum. I don't want him to die, but I haven't seen anything to make me feel confident about that. He's capable of quality posts as both alignments. I wasn't even going to bring this up because it's so inconsequential, but you asked. | ||
yamato77
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It seems like WoS is afraid of calling people mafia, I think it's pretty scummy. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 09 2014 16:05 wherebugsgo wrote: I am not suggesting though, that yamato has to be scum. He very well could be based on how much of a useless asshole he continues to be. However, considering him town is stupid. In fact I would say it is so stupid that it's even worse than someone coming up with an elaborate conspiracy that Yamato had to have bussed, because at the very least in the second case the player still leaves open the possibility of killing Yamato. In the first case it is nearly impossible to convince a player who has taken on the mentality that counter wagons have to be of opposite alignment to lynch someone like that later in the game when it is completely obvious that you have no choice left. unless you plan on lynching me, you should plan on finding mafia. I do not like how well timed your switch is nor that you so easily bought into letting me live after badgering me so hard most of the day | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On January 09 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote: I have no amazing reason to think he is town so that is why he can't be knocked off a list of possible scum. Do you think wbg looks town? I don't like how much lecturing about how to play mafia goes into his posts and he isn't even talking about reasons for why people could be scum. I don't want him to die, but I haven't seen anything to make me feel confident about that. He's capable of quality posts as both alignments. I wasn't even going to bring this up because it's so inconsequential, but you asked. Lecturing about how to play mafia is not alignment indicative in my opinion and it only tells you how that person should be playing. If they don't play like that they are playing against their own "rules of playing town" and they are probably scum. | ||
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gumshoe
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 09 2014 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: So bugs, which townie scum did try to lynch on D1? Who the fuck knows, I'm not scum. They clearly weren't coordinated enough to get any votes on townies. Cora voted Yamato and so did thrawn but that doesn't mean Yamato has to be town any more than it means thrawn has to be scum. The idea itself is pretty ridiculous on its own merits and it's tied to why people say don't connect flips. He voted Yamato initially but that itself doesn't mean much, particularly as scum distance each other and even more so when it was clear that he and Yamato were two of the strongest candidates. He voted me and also attacked WoS as well. These posts in particular are pretty interesting, though: On January 08 2014 13:25 Corazon wrote: Stop stop stop stop stop Rayn and Thrawn. Thrawn - lynching Rayn D1 is a bad idea. If Rayn is town, he is going to be a great asset to us going forward. He should be a policy lynch if he lasts longer than N2. Rayn - you need to stop OMGUSing and overreacting when people vote for you. This debate isn't going to help anyone. This is exactly what derailed the game in BttB. I'm begging for you to please drop this silly argument and resume it D2 or D3. We don't need this right now. Let's focus on actual scummy people like WBG, Yamato, and the inactives (in my opinion, CC, Yamato, Artanis (to an extent), Kush (to an extent, and mkfuba). On January 09 2014 04:28 Corazon wrote: Well Rayn, how can you tell my usefulness when you don't give me any breathing room. Are you really saying that I am going to be more useless than Kush, CC, fuba, gumshoe, Artanis, and Yamato? I'm here! I'm talking to you and I'm continuing to let you figure out my alignment. If we get down to MYLO, you are going to have a fairly decent opinion about my alignment. You cannot say the same about the people I listed above. I can help out town but it's hard to scumhunt when the mobs are coming after you the moment you try to get anything done. In the first post, gumshoe is missing. In the second, he's reappeared, note that by the second post corazon was under much more pressure. Anyway my point overall is basically that we cannot assume anything about anyone's alignment. No one is confirmed yet, and just because Cora attacked Yamato d1 it does not mean Yamato is guaranteed to be town. Sure, it makes him look townier, but that doesn't matter at all if he's going to continue to be worthless. So far Yamato has proven to be continuing his previous play despite trying to use the flip to better his own image, which is a very anti town thing to do. You don't establish yourself as a townie by calling yourself confirmed. You establish yourself as townie by finding scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On January 09 2014 16:30 gumshoe wrote: Anyone have any questions for me before I go to sleep? Not really, no. At least i don't. I don't think your reasons for thinking thrawn is scum are good because you can't tell thrawn's alignment based on what Corazon says about him and the "buddying one guy and not the other people" thingy is just meh but i don't have pa roblem with you because i think thrawn is scum. | ||
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