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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 02:07 GMT
#1161
Haha, you're funny.

Which part of my filter indicates that I'm scum?
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 09 2014 02:13 GMT
#1162
On January 09 2014 11:07 mkfuba07 wrote:
Haha, you're funny.

Which part of my filter indicates that I'm scum?


None, because theres absolutely no filter to go on : P





In all fairness, your no scummier than me ( : and besides I'm not talking to you right now, one lynch at a time friend, what do you think of Thrawn, and how do you feel about WBS still thinking yamato is scum after the Cora flip?
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
January 09 2014 02:15 GMT
#1163
Bugs said yamato is not confirmed town by coras flip which is absolutely true.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 09 2014 02:17 GMT
#1164
On January 09 2014 11:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Bugs said yamato is not confirmed town by coras flip which is absolutely true.


I didnt ask you.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 02:17 GMT
#1165
On January 09 2014 10:59 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 10:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
I never thought Cora was buddying me, it seemed like he was trying to avoid a real conversation. If he was unwilling to attack me it is because I was questioning him and he didn't want that to happen.

So you say i weren't the most spectacular townie

cool i'm town?

wait no you're accusing me atm?


Bieng unspectacular doesnt make you scum is what i said, it improves your odds though, I never said you were town 0_0 dont twist my words. The thing that makes you scum for certain are your interactions with Cora.


Here is what you said

"Would you say it was weird for Cora to try and buddy you? I mean, no offence but you weren't the most spectacular townie"

In the context of a scum play buddying a town player and being concerned with the skill, thread presence or sheepability of the town player, when you say I wasn't the most spectacular townie, your argument is implying I'm town. Why would Corazon try to buddy a scum mate who would have already been bussing him? I don't know what you're asking because I never thought he was buddying me nor do I see the consequence of that. Your argument is that I wasn't influential enough for Cor to want to buddy me, yet you think he buddied me, so I might be mafia? I will continue this after the next quote..

On January 09 2014 10:59 gumshoe wrote:
Cora is never afraid of an argument, your argument is invalid, besides he did have a conversation with you, and he conducted it very civily in stark contrast to his other engagments, thats the problem.


I don't think you are taking drama into account. Scum Corazon will be mad at townies and that can influence his scum play, he's a very emotional player. I like to think and hope that Corazon knows I don't care about any of the drama from banlist thread and all that, so that may be a reason why he was more civil with me than others.

If you're concerned with the interaction between Corazon and Thrawn the only reason you can be concerned about that is because you want to know if Thrawn is scum. But right now I can't tell if that's what you want, because you have no questions for me besides this irrelevant argument and you don't seem to have read my filter and come to a conclusion about my alignment.

So what is your point?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 09 2014 02:18 GMT
#1166
For future reference, will people please not answer questions intended for specific individuals...
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 02:28 GMT
#1167
Lets talk about this.

[QUOTE]On January 09 2014 08:39 gumshoe wrote:
WOS: Overall I just feel his play is kinda scummy, and while hes active I'm not sensing the typical conviction out of him, or even the good naturedness he exhumes in even dire circumstance as town.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/xCXgmgu.jpg[/img]

Too be honest WOS actually looks more townie than several players in this game who are likely town, my read on him is a gut one ) : going by some games ive played with him. Mainly withcraft, where he established his innocence right off the bat and was the towniest force in the whole game, a role he seemed to enjoy immensely, and basterd mafia where he was neutral but once again came off as a guy having all the fun. He just seems to be a bit more scared/confused/serious this time around.

##Vote:WOS

>>WoS is kinda scummy because of vague irresponsible meta justifications.

>>He actually looks more townie than other players who don't look as townie but are probably town

Can you re-explain these paragraphs?[/url]
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 02:28 GMT
#1168
On January 09 2014 11:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Lets talk about this.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 08:39 gumshoe wrote:
WOS: Overall I just feel his play is kinda scummy, and while hes active I'm not sensing the typical conviction out of him, or even the good naturedness he exhumes in even dire circumstance as town.


Too be honest WOS actually looks more townie than several players in this game who are likely town, my read on him is a gut one ) : going by some games ive played with him. Mainly withcraft, where he established his innocence right off the bat and was the towniest force in the whole game, a role he seemed to enjoy immensely, and basterd mafia where he was neutral but once again came off as a guy having all the fun. He just seems to be a bit more scared/confused/serious this time around.

##Vote:WOS


>>WoS is kinda scummy because of vague irresponsible meta justifications.

>>He actually looks more townie than other players who don't look as townie but are probably town

Can you re-explain these paragraphs?

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 09 2014 02:36 GMT
#1169
On January 09 2014 11:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 10:59 gumshoe wrote:
On January 09 2014 10:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
I never thought Cora was buddying me, it seemed like he was trying to avoid a real conversation. If he was unwilling to attack me it is because I was questioning him and he didn't want that to happen.

So you say i weren't the most spectacular townie

cool i'm town?

wait no you're accusing me atm?


Bieng unspectacular doesnt make you scum is what i said, it improves your odds though, I never said you were town 0_0 dont twist my words. The thing that makes you scum for certain are your interactions with Cora.


Here is what you said

"Would you say it was weird for Cora to try and buddy you? I mean, no offence but you weren't the most spectacular townie"

In the context of a scum play buddying a town player and being concerned with the skill, thread presence or sheepability of the town player, when you say I wasn't the most spectacular townie, your argument is implying I'm town. Why would Corazon try to buddy a scum mate who would have already been bussing him? I don't know what you're asking because I never thought he was buddying me nor do I see the consequence of that. Your argument is that I wasn't influential enough for Cor to want to buddy me, yet you think he buddied me, so I might be mafia? I will continue this after the next quote..

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 10:59 gumshoe wrote:
Cora is never afraid of an argument, your argument is invalid, besides he did have a conversation with you, and he conducted it very civily in stark contrast to his other engagments, thats the problem.


I don't think you are taking drama into account. Scum Corazon will be mad at townies and that can influence his scum play, he's a very emotional player. I like to think and hope that Corazon knows I don't care about any of the drama from banlist thread and all that, so that may be a reason why he was more civil with me than others.

If you're concerned with the interaction between Corazon and Thrawn the only reason you can be concerned about that is because you want to know if Thrawn is scum. But right now I can't tell if that's what you want, because you have no questions for me besides this irrelevant argument and you don't seem to have read my filter and come to a conclusion about my alignme

So what is your point?


1: Theres is no point buddying with an uninfluential TOWNIE, but there is a point to buddying with an uninfluential scum buddy (making them look good, which works so long as Cora doesnt get lynched, something niether of you were counting on considering you switched to yamato once things got serious against Cora) the point is, it makes no sense for him to buddy you if he was town, unless he was planning on dying in order to throw doubt on you.

2: Ok please dont make me account for banlist drama in my reads T_T

3: Oh I assure you, I KNOW that your scum XD

4: there is no real point to asking questions of you actually, because your scum and your not going to give me a)useful answers b) answers that result in your lynch. Also I have read your filter, and as I said, its unremarkable, but so is Fuba's, Kush's, and even Wos's, I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD. Your filter makes you a candidate for lynch, your interactions with Cora make you scum.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 02:36 GMT
#1170
On January 09 2014 11:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Bugs said yamato is not confirmed town by coras flip which is absolutely true.


I don't like this post.

If JAT thinks yamato is scum, why isn't he talking about it? If he thinks yamato is town, why is JAT contributing to lowering yamato's town cred?

Jat you accused me pretty directly. I'm here if you want to talk about anything.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 02:37 GMT
#1171
no you haven't read my filter
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 02:39 GMT
#1172
On January 09 2014 11:13 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 11:07 mkfuba07 wrote:
Haha, you're funny.

Which part of my filter indicates that I'm scum?


None, because theres absolutely no filter to go on : P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0L1jbDZQ5w



In all fairness, your no scummier than me ( : and besides I'm not talking to you right now, one lynch at a time friend, what do you think of Thrawn, and how do you feel about WBS still thinking yamato is scum after the Cora flip?

u so funny~

I haven't filtered thrawn yet. I might get to that tonight, or I might spend some time with my friends.

As for the WBG/yamato/cora thing, I'd say that anything is possible. I think WBG still being suspicious of yamato is reasonable, because as JAT said, cora's lynch doesn't make yamato confirmed town. However, as I read through their filters, I recall it not feeling like a bus. I'm inclined to keep thinking of yamato as town.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 02:41 GMT
#1173
On January 09 2014 11:36 gumshoe wrote:

1: Theres is no point buddying with an uninfluential TOWNIE, but there is a point to buddying with an uninfluential scum buddy (making them look good, which works so long as Cora doesnt get lynched, something niether of you were counting on considering you switched to yamato once things got serious against Cora) the point is, it makes no sense for him to buddy you if he was town, unless he was planning on dying in order to throw doubt on you.

2: Ok please dont make me account for banlist drama in my reads T_T

3: Oh I assure you, I KNOW that your scum XD

4: there is no real point to asking questions of you actually, because your scum and your not going to give me a)useful answers b) answers that result in your lynch. Also I have read your filter, and as I said, its unremarkable, but so is Fuba's, Kush's, and even Wos's, I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD. Your filter makes you a candidate for lynch, your interactions with Cora make you scum.


1. The only thing you want to talk to me, your top scumread about is the possibilty of me being scum, because you claim a scummate was fake-buddying me in order to trick the thread into thinking he was actually buddying me in a scummy attempt to give me town points? No, I'm not taking any of that seriously.

2. Yes you need to. The only thing you want to talk to me about is whether or not Corazon was buddying me. I give you a very good reason of why (although I disagree about him actually buddying me) he was being more civil with me than with others, and you choose to ignore it.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 09 2014 02:42 GMT
#1174
On January 09 2014 11:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 11:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Lets talk about this.

On January 09 2014 08:39 gumshoe wrote:
WOS: Overall I just feel his play is kinda scummy, and while hes active I'm not sensing the typical conviction out of him, or even the good naturedness he exhumes in even dire circumstance as town.


Too be honest WOS actually looks more townie than several players in this game who are likely town, my read on him is a gut one ) : going by some games ive played with him. Mainly withcraft, where he established his innocence right off the bat and was the towniest force in the whole game, a role he seemed to enjoy immensely, and basterd mafia where he was neutral but once again came off as a guy having all the fun. He just seems to be a bit more scared/confused/serious this time around.

##Vote:WOS


>>WoS is kinda scummy because of vague irresponsible meta justifications.

>>He actually looks more townie than other players who don't look as townie but are probably town

Can you re-explain these paragraphs?



In an ideal world, where every townie plays like a townie, the above can in fact be considered bullshit, unfortunately games like extractor trick mafia happen...where scum are townie than town... Basically just because a player is bad doesnt mean hes scum, scum ideally situate themselves somewhere in the middle of the pack, and I feel WOS has done just that. It was a gutread more than anything, similar to the Cora one XD it was also a day one read, and certainly not my finest. Well get back to him though, for now your my new ride : P


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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 02:48 GMT
#1175
On January 09 2014 11:36 gumshoe wrote:
4: there is no real point to asking questions of you actually, because your scum and your not going to give me a)useful answers b) answers that result in your lynch. Also I have read your filter, and as I said, its unremarkable, but so is Fuba's, Kush's, and even Wos's, I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD. Your filter makes you a candidate for lynch, your interactions with Cora make you scum.


I have no idea what you're doing. You're not going to talk to me because I'm scum, you KNOW I'm scum, you're already voting for me, etc.

But,

"I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD."

So... after all that big talk about how sure you are of me being mafia, my filter is inconclusive? You say it's unremarkable without ever giving examples or explaining what you're talking about and that's why I think you're making this up. Why is it unremarkable? Do you know that I've talked with many people in the game? That I've been involved in many of the main discussions? That the thread was even focused on me for a small amount of time? Do you know that when people were wanting to policy lynch kush and Corazon, I spent a lot of time trying to steer all the policy lynchers onto Corazon? If you knew any of this, or found any of it alignment indicative you would have mentioned it. You aren't trying to figure out my alignment.

and then,

"your interactions with Cora make you scum"

I don't know how that can actually be your main point against me.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 09 2014 02:50 GMT
#1176
On January 09 2014 11:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 11:36 gumshoe wrote:

1: Theres is no point buddying with an uninfluential TOWNIE, but there is a point to buddying with an uninfluential scum buddy (making them look good, which works so long as Cora doesnt get lynched, something niether of you were counting on considering you switched to yamato once things got serious against Cora) the point is, it makes no sense for him to buddy you if he was town, unless he was planning on dying in order to throw doubt on you.

2: Ok please dont make me account for banlist drama in my reads T_T

3: Oh I assure you, I KNOW that your scum XD

4: there is no real point to asking questions of you actually, because your scum and your not going to give me a)useful answers b) answers that result in your lynch. Also I have read your filter, and as I said, its unremarkable, but so is Fuba's, Kush's, and even Wos's, I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD. Your filter makes you a candidate for lynch, your interactions with Cora make you scum.


1. The only thing you want to talk to me, your top scumread about is the possibilty of me being scum, because you claim a scummate was fake-buddying me in order to trick the thread into thinking he was actually buddying me in a scummy attempt to give me town points? No, I'm not taking any of that seriously.

2. Yes you need to. The only thing you want to talk to me about is whether or not Corazon was buddying me. I give you a very good reason of why (although I disagree about him actually buddying me) he was being more civil with me than with others, and you choose to ignore it.


1: I dont really wanna talk to you, this goes no where, you wanted to talk to me : P

2: I didn't say he was fake buddying you, I think he was legit buddying you because he didnt wanna attack his scum partner. He was nicer to you than any other player in this game, although it was in a very understated yet noticeable way. This, plus your vote switch off him once things got series, plus you responses now, plus your crappy filter which I can go into if you insist, is why I think your scum.

3: No I fucking dont, keep that shiit out of here, this is such a dumb argument T_T also you cant have your cake and eat it to, either you dont think he was buddying you, or you think he was bieng nice to you cause banlist drama, the fact that you feel the need to defend yourself either way belies your need for security as a scum player.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 02:55 GMT
#1177
On January 09 2014 11:50 gumshoe wrote:

3: No I fucking dont, keep that shiit out of here, this is such a dumb argument T_T also you cant have your cake and eat it to, either you dont think he was buddying you, or you think he was bieng nice to you cause banlist drama, the fact that you feel the need to defend yourself either way belies your need for security as a scum player.


This is the main reason for your top scumread. This is the part of the game that you have put the most emphasis on. You claimed that this point "makes me scum" so yes, you actually do need to consider my response. This is something that should makes or break the read you claim to have. It is not a dumb argument, you asked why Cora wasn't being hostile towards me and it's because I've made efforts to get along with him while many people haven't lately. That's a good explanation! You can't just pretend it shouldn't effect your read because it's "dumb."
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 09 2014 02:57 GMT
#1178
On January 09 2014 11:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 11:36 gumshoe wrote:
4: there is no real point to asking questions of you actually, because your scum and your not going to give me a)useful answers b) answers that result in your lynch. Also I have read your filter, and as I said, its unremarkable, but so is Fuba's, Kush's, and even Wos's, I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD. Your filter makes you a candidate for lynch, your interactions with Cora make you scum.


I have no idea what you're doing. You're not going to talk to me because I'm scum, you KNOW I'm scum, you're already voting for me, etc.

But,

"I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD."

So... after all that big talk about how sure you are of me being mafia, my filter is inconclusive? You say it's unremarkable without ever giving examples or explaining what you're talking about and that's why I think you're making this up. Why is it unremarkable? Do you know that I've talked with many people in the game? That I've been involved in many of the main discussions? That the thread was even focused on me for a small amount of time? Do you know that when people were wanting to policy lynch kush and Corazon, I spent a lot of time trying to steer all the policy lynchers onto Corazon? If you knew any of this, or found any of it alignment indicative you would have mentioned it. You aren't trying to figure out my alignment.

and then,

"your interactions with Cora make you scum"

I don't know how that can actually be your main point against me.


Your filter includes getting high and bieng retarded, jumping off and on Cora, and wanting to kill rayn 0_0.

Not too to discuss when you can just excuse yourself for half the dumb shit you said, which is why I didn't really feel like talking about your filter in the first place, its dumb/irrelevant. Also your filter is scummy because its of no value and its been of harm, its just other peoples are scummy too. So why are you so special for me to focus on? Because the guy who flipped red, with a penchant for flipping out at people who accuse him refused to slander you... thats far from nothing, and more than enough for me to place you above a Fuba or Kush lynch.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 09 2014 03:02 GMT
#1179
If you're town then reason you think my play has been so shitty is because I only played shitty for a few hours and you were afk most of the rest of the cycle. I think I was actually a net positive for town. I did end up voting incorrectly but I spent a lot of time steering people towards corazon and attacking other lynches that I don't think would have gone as well.

You're resorting to ad hominem instead of providing examples of why you think my filter looks bad, when it honestly doesn't.

Why do you say kush is scum?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 03:03 GMT
#1180
What if Cora had said nothing at all in response to thrawn's accusations?
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