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On January 09 2014 03:48 Corazon wrote:
That still doesn't explain why you said "meta is ass" and then said "this looks like the town Iamp I remember"
YOUR meta is ass.
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On January 09 2014 03:53 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 03:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Cora clearly has no idea what has / has not happened this game
At least I'm playing it. You basically were here in the first part of the game and have only had sporadic posting since.
Fuck off. I was busy, and was inactive from the game im confirmed town in as well. That's not alignment indicative and you know it--why do you insist on being a giant antagonist to everyone?
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Ok I have no idea who to vote and I have to leave in an hour and I won't be back before deadline.. please give thoughts. I don't like any of the kush/corazon/iamp/wos wagons. Undecided on yamato.
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On January 09 2014 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:This is for rayn: + Show Spoiler +On January 08 2014 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.
We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.
As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato. I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.
If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking. Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was. You are such a hypocrite. Do you know what you are doing here? No? You are doing exactly what I was doing in my little fight wit bugs. He voted Kush who was absent and did not want to go after and pressure or discuss anyone else and I tried to explain to him how it doesn't help and how we could still vote Kush later and kill him. Still you write this: On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though. Yeah... well how much did bugs contribute before I made him do it? Exactly. Funny how you call me dumb for getting him to do something but after our last game I won't consider this logic failures a scumtell for you. <3 You used this point against be as well iirc, and I showed hwo to me there was a definite difference between WBG's and your posting during that time. Why do you constantly find the need to come back to it? Because what both of you are saying is bullshit and I hate being misrepresented this way. But we can drop this if you want. I don't think stupidity makes you scum. Them's some harsh words JAT. Who are you voting again? Sue me. I think you know well that I am not voting anyone right now and I think you also know how this has nothing to do with this post in any way.
No I actually was too lazy and absorbed in arguing with Cora to check atm, and had figured you had voted somebody at some point; couldn't remember.
If I had known that, the question would have been (and is now) who would you like to vote? (As I am trying to steer a conversation from the stuff you feel we can 'drop' now to something mroe releveant.)
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This game is also an aberration.
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On January 09 2014 03:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
Ok I have no idea who to vote and I have to leave in an hour and I won't be back before deadline.. please give thoughts. I don't like any of the kush/corazon/iamp/wos wagons. Undecided on yamato.
There is no wagon on me or iamp, first of all, and do you think all four of us are town?
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On January 09 2014 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 03:50 Corazon wrote:On January 09 2014 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
How the FUCK is saying 'All of my play is townplay?' LYING?!
Twisting words?
What the fuck it was a joke because I never roll scum, and the thought of you attempting to use meta to talk about what my 'townplay' looks like is laughable.
This is why I don't think arguing with you will get anywhere. I have NO IDEA how you think I'm twisting your words there. No that's not the post you twisted my words. It was the one below my first post "Wave that post looks so bad..." What, about 'what turned the lightbulb on?' Where I questioned why other people found shit I said scummy earlier on and you picked out something completely innocuous after the fact, called it scummy and joined the bandwagon at the time? What exactly did I lie about or twist your words there?
You said that I was simply sheeping on the reactions to your first post that Iamp and others said was bad. You called me scum for it and it would have been scummy had I actually been talking about that post. I was talking about the first one that I had quoted in response to mine.
Your story:
You make a post
Iamp/others call it bad
I ask why
You say you are always town
I suddenly realize that your first post was bad
You call me scum because I suddenly realized that the original post was bad, hence I was sheeping Iamp
Real Story:
You make a post
Iamp/others call it bad
I ask why
You say you are always town
I say that the post I mentioned in the point directly above this looks scummy
You call me scum because you lied about which post I called scummy
That is my problem with you.
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On January 09 2014 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:This is for rayn: + Show Spoiler +On January 08 2014 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.
We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.
As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato. I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.
If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking. Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was. You are such a hypocrite. Do you know what you are doing here? No? You are doing exactly what I was doing in my little fight wit bugs. He voted Kush who was absent and did not want to go after and pressure or discuss anyone else and I tried to explain to him how it doesn't help and how we could still vote Kush later and kill him. Still you write this: On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though. Yeah... well how much did bugs contribute before I made him do it? Exactly. Funny how you call me dumb for getting him to do something but after our last game I won't consider this logic failures a scumtell for you. <3 You used this point against be as well iirc, and I showed hwo to me there was a definite difference between WBG's and your posting during that time. Why do you constantly find the need to come back to it? Because what both of you are saying is bullshit and I hate being misrepresented this way. But we can drop this if you want. I don't think stupidity makes you scum. Them's some harsh words JAT. Who are you voting again? Sue me. I think you know well that I am not voting anyone right now and I think you also know how this has nothing to do with this post in any way. No I actually was too lazy and absorbed in arguing with Cora to check atm, and had figured you had voted somebody at some point; couldn't remember. If I had known that, the question would have been (and is now) who would you like to vote? (As I am trying to steer a conversation from the stuff you feel we can 'drop' now to something mroe releveant.)
I would LIKE to vote Kush but I have no idea about his alignment. I am undecided about the other wagons.
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I think all the bitchfighting, particularly with cora needs to stop.
Since you're on the chopping block cora: Tell me what you think of JAT this game so far?
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Corazon talks about some irrelevant misunderstanding and still refuses to tell me where thrawn's ultimate contributions to scumhunting were. Lynch with fire.
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On January 09 2014 03:57 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:50 Corazon wrote:On January 09 2014 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
How the FUCK is saying 'All of my play is townplay?' LYING?!
Twisting words?
What the fuck it was a joke because I never roll scum, and the thought of you attempting to use meta to talk about what my 'townplay' looks like is laughable.
This is why I don't think arguing with you will get anywhere. I have NO IDEA how you think I'm twisting your words there. No that's not the post you twisted my words. It was the one below my first post "Wave that post looks so bad..." What, about 'what turned the lightbulb on?' Where I questioned why other people found shit I said scummy earlier on and you picked out something completely innocuous after the fact, called it scummy and joined the bandwagon at the time? What exactly did I lie about or twist your words there? You said that I was simply sheeping on the reactions to your first post that Iamp and others said was bad. You called me scum for it and it would have been scummy had I actually been talking about that post. I was talking about the first one that I had quoted in response to mine. Your story: You make a post Iamp/others call it bad I ask why You say you are always town I suddenly realize that your first post was bad You call me scum because I suddenly realized that the original post was bad, hence I was sheeping Iamp Real Story: You make a post Iamp/others call it bad I ask why You say you are always town I say that the post I mentioned in the point directly above this looks scummy
You call me scum because you lied about which post I called scummyThat is my problem with you.
.....so because I assumed you were referring to a different post than the one you were actually apparently referring to I am scum?
K Cora.
Good luck with that. Clearly this misunderstanding means I am out to get you, twisting every single one of your posts into lies and slander (which I do believe you actually said at some point) and have been out to get you all game. Really coherent and useful argument you have been tunneling on for much of the game.
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On January 09 2014 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon talks about some irrelevant misunderstanding and still refuses to tell me where thrawn's ultimate contributions to scumhunting were. Lynch with fire.
I agree. Cora generally needs to talk about other things.
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Now that extractor is over with, fuck inactives and people that don't do shit. what in the hell, coagulation did nothing the entire game, and hammered himself at lylo AS TOWN
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On January 09 2014 03:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I think all the bitchfighting, particularly with cora needs to stop.
Since you're on the chopping block cora: Tell me what you think of JAT this game so far?
I don't think too much of him. There's nothing I've seen from him that pops out as scum to me. I do like how he continued his discussion with WBG and complained about the fact that no one else was posting. It would have been really easy for scum to just peace out of the thread, especially when you are with someone as abrasive and aggressive like WBG. His activity levels have been satisfactory for me. I would just like for him to figure out someone that he wants to lynch.
I wouldn't vote him out today.
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Hey Rayn. Stop lying. I answered Thrawn's question.
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On January 09 2014 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon talks about some irrelevant misunderstanding and still refuses to tell me where thrawn's ultimate contributions to scumhunting were. Lynch with fire.
Yeah and I got baited into it.
On January 09 2014 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:This is for rayn: + Show Spoiler +On January 08 2014 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.
We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.
As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato. I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.
If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking. Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was. You are such a hypocrite. Do you know what you are doing here? No? You are doing exactly what I was doing in my little fight wit bugs. He voted Kush who was absent and did not want to go after and pressure or discuss anyone else and I tried to explain to him how it doesn't help and how we could still vote Kush later and kill him. Still you write this: On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though. Yeah... well how much did bugs contribute before I made him do it? Exactly. Funny how you call me dumb for getting him to do something but after our last game I won't consider this logic failures a scumtell for you. <3 You used this point against be as well iirc, and I showed hwo to me there was a definite difference between WBG's and your posting during that time. Why do you constantly find the need to come back to it? Because what both of you are saying is bullshit and I hate being misrepresented this way. But we can drop this if you want. I don't think stupidity makes you scum. Them's some harsh words JAT. Who are you voting again? Sue me. I think you know well that I am not voting anyone right now and I think you also know how this has nothing to do with this post in any way. No I actually was too lazy and absorbed in arguing with Cora to check atm, and had figured you had voted somebody at some point; couldn't remember. If I had known that, the question would have been (and is now) who would you like to vote? (As I am trying to steer a conversation from the stuff you feel we can 'drop' now to something mroe releveant.) I would LIKE to vote Kush but I have no idea about his alignment. I am undecided about the other wagons.
What is stopping you exactly from voting for him? Is it the potential for kush to flip town? Because if so I ask you: which of the current players who may be up for lynch would you not want at LYLO as either alignment? Chances are, given statistics and no VERY clear choice for lynch that we may very well lynch town today---I'd rather risk kush be town and removal a potential toxin from within our midst (who may very well flip scum as well).
At the very least if we don't lynch Cora/yamato/whoever we can READ them at some point.
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Every time Cora uses the word 'lie' it makes me want to rip my hair out.
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On January 09 2014 04:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Now that extractor is over with, fuck inactives and people that don't do shit. what in the hell, coagulation did nothing the entire game, and hammered himself at lylo AS TOWN
This coming from you is amusing. What did you do besides your chat with gumshoe and Artanis at the start of the game? All 3 of you somehow vanished after all that fluff.
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On January 09 2014 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Every time Cora uses the word 'lie' it makes me want to rip my hair out.
+1
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I'm taking a bit of a break from posting.
Will be back in a short while.
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