He didn't say "hi" to the thread. That's like a scumclaim. j/k, i dunno about JAT.

Actually no, i think yamato is town. There is some sort of a process going on in his head on his read on me. When he is scum there is no process, he just posts some stuff and tryhard reads or does not post anything.

Dunno about bugs either, have never played with him.

I have some super secret scumreads but i am waiting for all people to post.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

January 07 2014 14:44 GMT

#304

also that fucker kush hasn't graced us with his presence despite being able to i believe. so we still have to figure him out.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

January 07 2014 14:45 GMT

#305

On January 07 2014 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really.

can you elaborate on that process you see in yamato because i don't see it?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 14:48 GMT

#306

From this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439654&currentpage=12#236
..onwards in his filter. There is something happening, i just dunno what that something is, but i don't really care, because it's enough for me.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

January 07 2014 14:55 GMT

#307

On January 07 2014 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
From this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439654&currentpage=12#236
..onwards in his filter. There is something happening, i just dunno what that something is, but i don't really care, because it's enough for me.

like are you trying to say he is thinking about the game so he must be town because i don't see that much from those posts if that's what your trying to say?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 15:04 GMT

#308

Yes i think he is thinking about the game.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

January 07 2014 15:05 GMT

#309

can you show me where specifically?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 15:08 GMT

#310

He is trying to figure out my alignment and does not give a shit what everyone (including me) thinks about it.
He is doing stuff his own way, which is not what he does as mafia.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

January 07 2014 15:08 GMT

#311

I like how Gumshoe kept doing his own thing even after my pressure. It feels genuine and I'm revoking the scumpointsᵀᴹ. Also liked Fuba's enter into the thread. Checked two of his games briefly, PYP and White Flag. He was very inactive as scum, whereas he still at least posted a bit in PYP. If he goes full AFK he's worth another look.

On January 07 2014 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually this is where the interesting conversation about gumshoe ends:

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On January 07 2014 10:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have.

I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post.

That doesn't give me much to work with =| I may as well tell you my opinion on it, see if you share the sentiment. Two games ago I was lynched as town for being too Pro-town, too sexy, whatever. Felt it was completely out of my control and it was terrible. In the game still going on I was called out for being protown and it actually pissed me off because I thought i was going to get lynched again, this time D1 for no reason.

I can see Gumshoe being sick and tired of being called scummy for seemingly no reason, and just wanting to survive as town. I think it'd be fairly ballsy as scum to say "Hey, don't lynch me D1, I'm going to show you I hunt scum" without being as sarcastic as Coagulation or something. It made me lean townie on him. Thoughts?

I guess it's just hard for me to imagine because I have never gotten mislynched. I'm just that good + Show Spoiler +

or that bad at scum that no one needs to worry

. Your story makes sense, but I can also imagine him having thought of this and deciding beforehand that he wants to post this. I buy that he's frustrated of dying on D1. I can completely get into that, I just don't see why that means he's town now. Saying "I'm going to show you I hunt scum" doesn't cut it in that regard.

What I should say is, I wouldn't post something like that as mafia so that makes me lean town on him. I take it you're leaning scum on Gumshoe atm because you posted that gumshoe was talking about something not being alignment indicative and that he gains scumpoints.

Gumshoe you are once again the topic of day 1 discussion! Congrats! I can only hope that this leads to good things this time around :D

It ends in a disagreement and neither of those guys bring that up any more and neither of them have a read on each other.

This isn't true. I've indicated I have a minor scumread on CC, and had a minor scumread on Gumshoe. You're either not reading very well or you're trying to twist my words. I'm not sure which. I also don't like how Yamato having a thought process is apparently enough for Rayn to give him a townread. It feels poorly reasoned. Rayn is awarded a collection of scumpointsᵀᴹ. Do you really feel like Yamato is this easy to catch as scum?

I still like how Iamp is generating discussion and do not view him as scummy.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

January 07 2014 15:11 GMT

#312

yamato is actually pretty easy to catch as scum

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

January 07 2014 15:13 GMT

#313

and i dont think i would award "scum points" to rayn just for giving yamato a town read like that. More just bad reasoning than scum reasoning i would say.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

January 07 2014 15:13 GMT

#314

I don't think I've played with a yamato scum since like 2010 or something.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 15:13 GMT

#315

It's not bad reasoning when i am right.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

January 07 2014 15:18 GMT

#316

On January 08 2014 00:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think I've played with a yamato scum since like 2010 or something.

considering he didn't start playing until 2012 that is quite the feat!!!

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

January 07 2014 15:20 GMT

#317

On January 08 2014 00:18 iamperfection wrote:

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considering he didn't start playing until 2012 that is quite the feat!!!

I am a man of wonders. I think I'm remembering Pandain.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

January 07 2014 15:28 GMT

#318

On January 08 2014 00:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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I am a man of wonders. I think I'm remembering Pandain.

insane mafia you were the host

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

January 07 2014 15:44 GMT

#319

On January 07 2014 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
also that fucker kush hasn't graced us with his presence despite being able to i believe. so we still have to figure him out.

Lol I totally dare him to continue as such I will policy lynch him so fast.
Thrawn if you're around, where exactly did your line of questioning toward me go, and why am I not scum anymore? Or will you be dismissing it along with the other stuff you did while apparently high?

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

January 07 2014 15:46 GMT

#320

The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D

yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?

rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que?