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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 07 2014 18:38 GMT
#341
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 07 2014 18:38 GMT
#342
Artanis, the scumpoints are at best distracting. It'd be fine if I knew the real time value of a scumpoint and knew how many scumpoints equals a scumread... but I don't, so that makes it difficult to determine how serious you are about your reads.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 07 2014 18:39 GMT
#343
On January 08 2014 03:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
Artanis, the scumpoints are at best distracting. It'd be fine if I knew the real time value of a scumpoint and knew how many scumpoints equals a scumread... but I don't, so that makes it difficult to determine how serious you are about your reads.

Scumpointsᵀᴹ indicate a suspicion at the least. You'll see a vote once the scumpointsᵀᴹ exceed a certain threshold, like you did just now.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:39 GMT
#344
On January 08 2014 03:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

So you want me to lie and say "yeah it totally indicates person X as alignment Y"? When I think something isn't alignment indicative, I say it isn't alignment indicative. For trying to paint me as scummy in every way you can think of I award you more scumpointsᵀᴹ!
##Vote Mr. Cheesecake


The point is that you didnt care about conversation and talking just said it wasmt alignment indicative and left it at that. didnt seem interested in beginning the game apart from trolling.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:40 GMT
#345
On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection.


Are you even reading my posts?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:41 GMT
#346
And now we have DRAMA! hehehe
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#347
On January 08 2014 03:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

So you want me to lie and say "yeah it totally indicates person X as alignment Y"? When I think something isn't alignment indicative, I say it isn't alignment indicative. For trying to paint me as scummy in every way you can think of I award you more scumpointsᵀᴹ!
##Vote Mr. Cheesecake


The point is that you didnt care about conversation and talking just said it wasmt alignment indicative and left it at that. didnt seem interested in beginning the game apart from trolling.

If you ask me about a certain thing I answer it. You gave me something and asked if you thought it was alignment indicative, I disagreed. That you're willing to call me scum off it shows to me that you're looking for a target rather than looking for scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
January 07 2014 18:45 GMT
#348
On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection.

I did not change my opinion. That would mean I had a different opinion before and I didn't. And of course I checked what you said. Why would I agree with rayn without knowing what I am agreeing on as scum btw? That would be really dumb.
I fail to see how agreeing with rayn is scummy in any way (especially if this is one of very few good points made in this game). He usually plays best Day1 if he is town and I at least see some critical thinking of him. I can't say that about many other players yet.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 07 2014 18:48 GMT
#349
On January 08 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection.

I did not change my opinion. That would mean I had a different opinion before and I didn't. And of course I checked what you said. Why would I agree with rayn without knowing what I am agreeing on as scum btw? That would be really dumb.
I fail to see how agreeing with rayn is scummy in any way (especially if this is one of very few good points made in this game). He usually plays best Day1 if he is town and I at least see some critical thinking of him. I can't say that about many other players yet.

Because of being careless. Town wants to find scum, scum wants to find a target. It's how I caught Mocsta in LXIII and it's leading me to suspect you as well. How you come to the conclusion that I said nothing about CC when I clearly indicated I found him at least suspicious is beyond me other than simply parroting Rayn. Perhaps changing conclusion is the wrong wording, but you've created a new one entirely based on Rayn's words.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 07 2014 18:48 GMT
#350
can you provide quotes

On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:50 GMT
#351
On January 08 2014 03:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

So you want me to lie and say "yeah it totally indicates person X as alignment Y"? When I think something isn't alignment indicative, I say it isn't alignment indicative. For trying to paint me as scummy in every way you can think of I award you more scumpointsᵀᴹ!
##Vote Mr. Cheesecake


The point is that you didnt care about conversation and talking just said it wasmt alignment indicative and left it at that. didnt seem interested in beginning the game apart from trolling.

If you ask me about a certain thing I answer it. You gave me something and asked if you thought it was alignment indicative, I disagreed. That you're willing to call me scum off it shows to me that you're looking for a target rather than looking for scum.


You aren't thinking about this critically. Its not specifically the answers i dont like. its the fact that you didnt seem interested at all in getting content into the game.

And i never called you scum, somebody is paranoid. I did express the notion to lynch you, maybe that was the kickstart this game needed.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
January 07 2014 18:51 GMT
#352
On January 08 2014 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection.

I did not change my opinion. That would mean I had a different opinion before and I didn't. And of course I checked what you said. Why would I agree with rayn without knowing what I am agreeing on as scum btw? That would be really dumb.
I fail to see how agreeing with rayn is scummy in any way (especially if this is one of very few good points made in this game). He usually plays best Day1 if he is town and I at least see some critical thinking of him. I can't say that about many other players yet.

Because of being careless. Town wants to find scum, scum wants to find a target. It's how I caught Mocsta in LXIII and it's leading me to suspect you as well. How you come to the conclusion that I said nothing about CC when I clearly indicated I found him at least suspicious is beyond me other than simply parroting Rayn. Perhaps changing conclusion is the wrong wording, but you've created a new one entirely based on Rayn's words.

Because an opinion someone else has can't be adopted because that would be scummy. Good point man.

You entirely failed to show us where you "clearly indicated" that CC was a little suspicious to you too. Just calling Rayns point an incorrect conclusion doesn't cut it.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 07 2014 18:52 GMT
#353
Thtawn the motivation is exactly as I already said: I find what appeared to be no-reason vote dropping in order to gauge reaction a weak way to generate discussion or response, nothing more.

Mind explaining YOUR motivation behind it or your motivation behind jumping on me?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:53 GMT
#354
The conclusion I have reached is that artanis totally flipped when I casually said to lynch him. Lol. Mad town or mad mafia - which?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 07 2014 18:54 GMT
#355
On January 08 2014 03:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
can you provide quotes

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.


On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post.

I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

First he attacks me here, then realizes he messed up.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post.

I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

I'd consider that trying to make friends. Then he asks me some questions and comes back with
On January 08 2014 01:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hmm can we lynch Artanis? He wouldn't play nice with me.

On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

Despite having answered his questions. He's casting suspicion on me because I refuse to call something that I feel isn't alignment indicative alignment indicative. I suspect because I refused his advances because he wasn't sexy enough.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 07 2014 18:56 GMT
#356
On January 08 2014 03:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.

JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection.

I did not change my opinion. That would mean I had a different opinion before and I didn't. And of course I checked what you said. Why would I agree with rayn without knowing what I am agreeing on as scum btw? That would be really dumb.
I fail to see how agreeing with rayn is scummy in any way (especially if this is one of very few good points made in this game). He usually plays best Day1 if he is town and I at least see some critical thinking of him. I can't say that about many other players yet.

Because of being careless. Town wants to find scum, scum wants to find a target. It's how I caught Mocsta in LXIII and it's leading me to suspect you as well. How you come to the conclusion that I said nothing about CC when I clearly indicated I found him at least suspicious is beyond me other than simply parroting Rayn. Perhaps changing conclusion is the wrong wording, but you've created a new one entirely based on Rayn's words.

Because an opinion someone else has can't be adopted because that would be scummy. Good point man.

You entirely failed to show us where you "clearly indicated" that CC was a little suspicious to you too. Just calling Rayns point an incorrect conclusion doesn't cut it.

On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post.

I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
January 07 2014 18:58 GMT
#357
You took those scumpoints back shortly after.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 18:59 GMT
#358
On January 08 2014 03:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
can you provide quotes

On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.


Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post.

I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

First he attacks me here, then realizes he messed up.
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On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
[quote]
I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

I'd consider that trying to make friends. Then he asks me some questions and comes back with
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On January 08 2014 01:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hmm can we lynch Artanis? He wouldn't play nice with me.

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On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

Despite having answered his questions. He's casting suspicion on me because I refuse to call something that I feel isn't alignment indicative alignment indicative. I suspect because I refused his advances because he wasn't sexy enough.


I 'attacked' you because i was confused for not reading the spoilered quote, it was unwarranted. Not going to push something that was wrong when i realized that i was being dumb.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 07 2014 18:59 GMT
#359
You're accusing him of trying to win over your favor. But one of your first posts is
On January 07 2014 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm also town.
Cheesecake, on a level of 1-100, how sexy will you be this game?

so I don't know what you mean by that accusation. No matter his alignment any sexiness he demonstrates for your benefit is likely a result of the above quote.

I don't trust scumpoints:

On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.

Anything interesting happening?

Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
[quote]
I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!

That's why scumpoints are bad. You are assigning CC scum points for misunderstanding a post. That's too weak of an accusation for me to believe but I can't tell how serious you are when you act silly while assigning scum reads.

I just refreshed the page and saw your recent post about the point I just brought up. Obviously I don't think it's a valid point.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 07 2014 19:00 GMT
#360
And im fucking sexiest townie usa artanis.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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