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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 07 2014 19:01 GMT
#361
On January 08 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
You took those scumpoints back shortly after.

Not really. I just substituted them.
On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.

Anything interesting happening?

Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
[quote]
I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!


On January 08 2014 03:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
can you provide quotes

On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.


On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post.

I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( :

So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

First he attacks me here, then realizes he messed up.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

I'd consider that trying to make friends. Then he asks me some questions and comes back with
On January 08 2014 01:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hmm can we lynch Artanis? He wouldn't play nice with me.

On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

Despite having answered his questions. He's casting suspicion on me because I refuse to call something that I feel isn't alignment indicative alignment indicative. I suspect because I refused his advances because he wasn't sexy enough.


I 'attacked' you because i was confused for not reading the spoilered quote, it was unwarranted. Not going to push something that was wrong when i realized that i was being dumb.

You're right. I just remember it as getting attacked, then backing off, then continuing when thread sentiment is again in my disfavour. I still find your point about things that aren't alignment indicative scummy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 07 2014 19:02 GMT
#362
On January 08 2014 03:59 thrawn2112 wrote:

That's why scumpoints are bad. You are assigning CC scum points for misunderstanding a post. That's too weak of an accusation for me to believe but I can't tell how serious you are when you act silly while assigning scum reads.

I just refreshed the page and saw your recent post about the point I just brought up. Obviously I don't think it's a valid point.

The bolded is exactly my problem with this. I took the second round of scumpoints as a joke after he took back the first.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 07 2014 19:07 GMT
#363
On January 08 2014 04:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
You took those scumpoints back shortly after.

Not really. I just substituted them.
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.

Anything interesting happening?

Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!



As I said that looked more like a joke to me. The reasoning behind your substitutional scumread is much weaker and I did not read that as clearly indicative of such a read.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 07 2014 19:09 GMT
#364
On January 08 2014 03:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
You're accusing him of trying to win over your favor. But one of your first posts is
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm also town.
Cheesecake, on a level of 1-100, how sexy will you be this game?

so I don't know what you mean by that accusation. No matter his alignment any sexiness he demonstrates for your benefit is likely a result of the above quote.

The problem I have is that he did it after he accused me rather than before, but the matter is settled because I forgot that his initial accusation was rescinded.

I don't trust scumpoints:

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.

Anything interesting happening?

Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ!


Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!

That's why scumpoints are bad. You are assigning CC scum points for misunderstanding a post. That's too weak of an accusation for me to believe but I can't tell how serious you are when you act silly while assigning scum reads.

I just refreshed the page and saw your recent post about the point I just brought up. Obviously I don't think it's a valid point.

On reflection I think you might be right. I might be too tunneled. His comeback just instantly felt like a Plan B when his initial plan failed.
I can't ditch the scumpointsᵀᴹ. They're too sexy.
On January 08 2014 04:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 04:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
You took those scumpoints back shortly after.

Not really. I just substituted them.
On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.

Anything interesting happening?

Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
[quote]

Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!



As I said that looked more like a joke to me. The reasoning behind your substitutional scumread is much weaker and I did not read that as clearly indicative of such a read.

What I am curious of though is that my interactions with CC clearly did read to a lead, even if I substituted it with a different read later it led me to information I felt was alignment indicative, yet you still conclude that my interactions did not give me a conclusion. How come?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 07 2014 19:13 GMT
#365
On January 08 2014 04:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
You're accusing him of trying to win over your favor. But one of your first posts is
On January 07 2014 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm also town.
Cheesecake, on a level of 1-100, how sexy will you be this game?

so I don't know what you mean by that accusation. No matter his alignment any sexiness he demonstrates for your benefit is likely a result of the above quote.

The problem I have is that he did it after he accused me rather than before, but the matter is settled because I forgot that his initial accusation was rescinded.

Show nested quote +
I don't trust scumpoints:

On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.

Anything interesting happening?

Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
[quote]

Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.

You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!

That's why scumpoints are bad. You are assigning CC scum points for misunderstanding a post. That's too weak of an accusation for me to believe but I can't tell how serious you are when you act silly while assigning scum reads.

I just refreshed the page and saw your recent post about the point I just brought up. Obviously I don't think it's a valid point.

On reflection I think you might be right. I might be too tunneled. His comeback just instantly felt like a Plan B when his initial plan failed.
I can't ditch the scumpointsᵀᴹ. They're too sexy.
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On January 08 2014 04:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 08 2014 04:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
You took those scumpoints back shortly after.

Not really. I just substituted them.
On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.

Anything interesting happening?

Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.


Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)

Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.


Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.

Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!


Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD

Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!



As I said that looked more like a joke to me. The reasoning behind your substitutional scumread is much weaker and I did not read that as clearly indicative of such a read.

What I am curious of though is that my interactions with CC clearly did read to a lead, even if I substituted it with a different read later it led me to information I felt was alignment indicative, yet you still conclude that my interactions did not give me a conclusion. How come?

This is where we disagree. To me it did not seem like you concluded something.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 07 2014 19:16 GMT
#366
So after all that, what's your current read on CC?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 07 2014 19:19 GMT
#367
On January 08 2014 04:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
So after all that, what's your current read on CC?

Is this directed at me or Artanis?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 07 2014 19:20 GMT
#368
On January 08 2014 04:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
So after all that, what's your current read on CC?

Still leaning scum because he's tried to call me scum over calling non alignment-indicative things non alignment-indicative.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 19:28 GMT
#369
On January 08 2014 02:54 iamperfection wrote:
You reading the thread bugs?


sure. I'm still trying to formulate my opinions, though as usual I've found it easier to consider a few people townies for now. The hardest part of the game is still trying to figure out whether people are being dumb because they just are or because their role PM had red text in it.

join me in the killing of kush.

##vote kushm4sta
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 07 2014 19:29 GMT
#370
WBG are you planning on throwing your weight around with your votes, or is this just a pressure vote? As a vetera
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 07 2014 19:30 GMT
#371
T.T

as a Veteran who has (probably) played with Kush multiple times, do you really think voting for him like that will get anything useful out of him?
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 19:33 GMT
#372
There are certain questions that, if answered, completely defeat the purpose of particular plays.

If you want to figure out my alignment for yourself it's probably a better idea to give me something better to work with. Why don't you comment on the game, or try to have a different conversation with me? If I can get some sort of insight into your current thoughts, e.g. what players you are currently looking at-you don't even have to particularly elucidate your reads-or, say, things you are worried about, or players you think are playing in a manner inconsistent to their norm, then I can have a fruitful conversation with you that can be alignment-enlightening in multiple ways.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 19:35 GMT
#373
alternatively you could choose the nonparticipatory way out.

In other words, your second option is (and pardon my French) to shut the fuck up and vote kush.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 07 2014 19:36 GMT
#374
Well I cannot have a productive conversation with you because all you say is that you are going to read more and then throw a useless pressure vote on Kush.

I need that contribution from you first before we can have a meaningful conversation. This isn't a one-way street.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 19:40 GMT
#375
On January 08 2014 04:36 Corazon wrote:
Well I cannot have a productive conversation with you because all you say is that you are going to read more and then throw a useless pressure vote on Kush.

I need that contribution from you first before we can have a meaningful conversation. This isn't a one-way street.


You seem to lack reading comprehension.

We can do the "no you first' thing all day, but if this is the best you can offer then I have no real reason to keep talking to you.

It isn't a personal thing, it's just that talking to someone who doesn't know how to further conversation is probably a dead-end at best. I offered you the chance at elucidating your current thoughts. They don't even have to be detailed. If you don't want to do even that then I can't be bothered to share more with you, since I have no clue whether sharing my current thoughts is even a good idea if I don't get decent information in return.

Why should I let scum have a head start into knowing whom I suspect so early, if it doesn't particularly benefit me? It only changes their behaviour when they know who is specifically under scrutiny.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 07 2014 19:41 GMT
#376
On January 08 2014 04:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 04:36 Corazon wrote:
Well I cannot have a productive conversation with you because all you say is that you are going to read more and then throw a useless pressure vote on Kush.

I need that contribution from you first before we can have a meaningful conversation. This isn't a one-way street.


You seem to lack reading comprehension.

We can do the "no you first' thing all day, but if this is the best you can offer then I have no real reason to keep talking to you.

It isn't a personal thing, it's just that talking to someone who doesn't know how to further conversation is probably a dead-end at best. I offered you the chance at elucidating your current thoughts. They don't even have to be detailed. If you don't want to do even that then I can't be bothered to share more with you, since I have no clue whether sharing my current thoughts is even a good idea if I don't get decent information in return.

Why should I let scum have a head start into knowing whom I suspect so early, if it doesn't particularly benefit me? It only changes their behaviour when they know who is specifically under scrutiny.

Read my filter. Read the game. You would see that I already have given my opinions on certain people (Yamato). Please don't come back and post again until you have read through the whole game, please.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 19:45 GMT
#377
On January 08 2014 04:41 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 04:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 04:36 Corazon wrote:
Well I cannot have a productive conversation with you because all you say is that you are going to read more and then throw a useless pressure vote on Kush.

I need that contribution from you first before we can have a meaningful conversation. This isn't a one-way street.


You seem to lack reading comprehension.

We can do the "no you first' thing all day, but if this is the best you can offer then I have no real reason to keep talking to you.

It isn't a personal thing, it's just that talking to someone who doesn't know how to further conversation is probably a dead-end at best. I offered you the chance at elucidating your current thoughts. They don't even have to be detailed. If you don't want to do even that then I can't be bothered to share more with you, since I have no clue whether sharing my current thoughts is even a good idea if I don't get decent information in return.

Why should I let scum have a head start into knowing whom I suspect so early, if it doesn't particularly benefit me? It only changes their behaviour when they know who is specifically under scrutiny.

Read my filter. Read the game. You would see that I already have given my opinions on certain people (Yamato). Please don't come back and post again until you have read through the whole game, please.


So, you're dumb.

Okay. Thanks for letting us know.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 07 2014 19:46 GMT
#378
On January 08 2014 04:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 04:36 Corazon wrote:
Well I cannot have a productive conversation with you because all you say is that you are going to read more and then throw a useless pressure vote on Kush.

I need that contribution from you first before we can have a meaningful conversation. This isn't a one-way street.


You seem to lack reading comprehension.

We can do the "no you first' thing all day, but if this is the best you can offer then I have no real reason to keep talking to you.

It isn't a personal thing, it's just that talking to someone who doesn't know how to further conversation is probably a dead-end at best. I offered you the chance at elucidating your current thoughts. They don't even have to be detailed. If you don't want to do even that then I can't be bothered to share more with you, since I have no clue whether sharing my current thoughts is even a good idea if I don't get decent information in return.

Why should I let scum have a head start into knowing whom I suspect so early, if it doesn't particularly benefit me? It only changes their behaviour when they know who is specifically under scrutiny.

Well should you indeed have any suspects then it might help to make that public because otherwise you can't convince other people to lynch them. Also nobody will be able to read you this way.
A kush lynch is just pure policy right now and doesn't contribute or help in any way at the moment.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 07 2014 19:47 GMT
#379
Whatever, WBG. If you don't want to contribute, don't complain when you get lynched.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 19:53 GMT
#380
On January 08 2014 04:47 Corazon wrote:
Whatever, WBG. If you don't want to contribute, don't complain when you get lynched.


More proof that Corazon is dumb, guys.

This is fun.

On January 08 2014 04:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 04:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 04:36 Corazon wrote:
Well I cannot have a productive conversation with you because all you say is that you are going to read more and then throw a useless pressure vote on Kush.

I need that contribution from you first before we can have a meaningful conversation. This isn't a one-way street.


You seem to lack reading comprehension.

We can do the "no you first' thing all day, but if this is the best you can offer then I have no real reason to keep talking to you.

It isn't a personal thing, it's just that talking to someone who doesn't know how to further conversation is probably a dead-end at best. I offered you the chance at elucidating your current thoughts. They don't even have to be detailed. If you don't want to do even that then I can't be bothered to share more with you, since I have no clue whether sharing my current thoughts is even a good idea if I don't get decent information in return.

Why should I let scum have a head start into knowing whom I suspect so early, if it doesn't particularly benefit me? It only changes their behaviour when they know who is specifically under scrutiny.

Well should you indeed have any suspects then it might help to make that public because otherwise you can't convince other people to lynch them. Also nobody will be able to read you this way.
A kush lynch is just pure policy right now and doesn't contribute or help in any way at the moment.


I'm sorry, are you actually trying to defend the guy who literally isn't bothering to play the game?

I just can't understand this type of mentality. Everyone on this forum complains constantly about lurkers and then when games roll around the lurkers are defended and the people who bother doing something about it are attacked.

Keep being dumb, I'm sure it's worked out so far.
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