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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 07 2014 08:13 GMT
#281
Could you elaborate more on what was that all about?
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 07 2014 08:59 GMT
#282
i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 07 2014 09:05 GMT
#283
On January 07 2014 12:00 gumshoe wrote:

Cora scummy cause I don't like his face.



On January 07 2014 12:22 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 12:15 Corazon wrote:
Gumshoe calling me scum without any reasoning behind it. Now that is nonsensical T.T


I don't really think your scum, I just don't like you ATM, and I don't think conversation between us would yield much seeing as we're both resolved to be hostile to one another ( or at least you are yah big jerk ) oh and if you did turn out to be scum I'd be pleasantly surprised ( :

Why are you poking Cora like that? The only reason I could think of (if you are town) is to get a read on him by his reaction but I really think you should reevaluate this approach because if he flips out this thread will become a nightmare regardless of his alignment. As long as you don't have a reason besides hostility stop it.

If anyone wants my opinion on anything ask me. I didn't see important things that allow me a real read on a player yet tbh.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 07 2014 09:07 GMT
#284
CheseCake - Artanis interaction and the outcome.
Go!
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 07 2014 09:12 GMT
#285
Oh god... fine.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 07 2014 09:13 GMT
#286
On January 07 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself

What was your read on me before my answer and why did it change?
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 07 2014 09:21 GMT
#287
On January 07 2014 18:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
CheseCake - Artanis interaction and the outcome.
Go!

Is there really an outcome? I don't see it. They don't even argue - they just kinda agree with each other using many words...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 07 2014 09:29 GMT
#288
Actually this is where the interesting conversation about gumshoe ends:
On January 07 2014 10:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 10:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have.

I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post.


That doesn't give me much to work with =| I may as well tell you my opinion on it, see if you share the sentiment. Two games ago I was lynched as town for being too Pro-town, too sexy, whatever. Felt it was completely out of my control and it was terrible. In the game still going on I was called out for being protown and it actually pissed me off because I thought i was going to get lynched again, this time D1 for no reason.

I can see Gumshoe being sick and tired of being called scummy for seemingly no reason, and just wanting to survive as town. I think it'd be fairly ballsy as scum to say "Hey, don't lynch me D1, I'm going to show you I hunt scum" without being as sarcastic as Coagulation or something. It made me lean townie on him. Thoughts?

I guess it's just hard for me to imagine because I have never gotten mislynched. I'm just that good + Show Spoiler +
or that bad at scum that no one needs to worry
. Your story makes sense, but I can also imagine him having thought of this and deciding beforehand that he wants to post this. I buy that he's frustrated of dying on D1. I can completely get into that, I just don't see why that means he's town now. Saying "I'm going to show you I hunt scum" doesn't cut it in that regard.


What I should say is, I wouldn't post something like that as mafia so that makes me lean town on him. I take it you're leaning scum on Gumshoe atm because you posted that gumshoe was talking about something not being alignment indicative and that he gains scumpoints.

Gumshoe you are once again the topic of day 1 discussion! Congrats! I can only hope that this leads to good things this time around :D

It ends in a disagreement and neither of those guys bring that up any more and neither of them have a read on each other.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 07 2014 09:33 GMT
#289
On January 07 2014 18:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself

What was your read on me before my answer and why did it change?


You're pushing the limit of how much thought you can assume I put into my earlier posts.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 07 2014 09:37 GMT
#290
Ah ok. That's what you call the outcome.
Well, yeah you are right. They talk a lot and don't seem to try getting a read on each other or at least didn't make that read public. Fishy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 07 2014 09:41 GMT
#291
On January 07 2014 16:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cheesydude and Artanis worry me from the people posting the most atm.

CC uses like ~15 posts in interacting with Artanis and after that gives a read on gumshoe and even a null read on WoS who has posted once, maybe twice. What was the point of discussing shit with Artanis as CC didn't even try to form a read on him.

Artanis did the same with gumshoe. Fuckton of interaction that ends up with calling gumshoe scummy but then again maybe not.

Wtf maybe I should have read this post I somehow didn't notice it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 07 2014 09:42 GMT
#292
On January 07 2014 18:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 18:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 07 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself

What was your read on me before my answer and why did it change?


You're pushing the limit of how much thought you can assume I put into my earlier posts.

I mean you said "and there goes my only read" after i gave you an answer to your question.
I assume you had some sort of a read on me and i would like to know what that was.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 07 2014 09:59 GMT
#293
On January 07 2014 14:17 iamperfection wrote:
before i go to bed one thing im confident on is that gumshoe is town. He has steeped into the spotlight and has stated his reasoning confidently and strongly and has provided some actual content. Some of his content is suspect like me prodding yamato is scummy lolololololol but regardless i think this is town and his paly reminds me of his early pm play in got where he stated his reasoning with the same confidence.

So hopefully he doesn't go and fuck it up like he did in that game.


1 down
Gumshoe Town

11 to go

see you all tomorrow

iamperfection how is this different than what gumshoe does in his scumgames? If this is a meta-read you should probably elaborate on that too because it's kinda.. the point of a meta-read, what someone does differently as town/scum.

If this is not a meta-read why are you faking it as one?
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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
January 07 2014 13:17 GMT
#294
VOTECOUNT

Mr. Cheesecake (1) - gumshoe

Raynepelikoneet (0) - Thrawn2112

Thrawn2112 (0) - Yamato77

WaveofShadow (1) - wherebugsgo, Thrawn2112

yamato77 (1) - Corazon

Nobody (10) - Everybody else

Day One ends in
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
January 07 2014 14:20 GMT
#295
On January 07 2014 18:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 12:00 gumshoe wrote:

Cora scummy cause I don't like his face.



Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 12:22 gumshoe wrote:
On January 07 2014 12:15 Corazon wrote:
Gumshoe calling me scum without any reasoning behind it. Now that is nonsensical T.T


I don't really think your scum, I just don't like you ATM, and I don't think conversation between us would yield much seeing as we're both resolved to be hostile to one another ( or at least you are yah big jerk ) oh and if you did turn out to be scum I'd be pleasantly surprised ( :

Why are you poking Cora like that? The only reason I could think of (if you are town) is to get a read on him by his reaction but I really think you should reevaluate this approach because if he flips out this thread will become a nightmare regardless of his alignment. As long as you don't have a reason besides hostility stop it.

If anyone wants my opinion on anything ask me. I didn't see important things that allow me a real read on a player yet tbh.

@gumshoe
Earn the right to get to D2, don't ask for it.


Pretty condescending.

I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks.


He makes it out that Iamp is attacking everyone when in actuality hes only called out yamato, when I press him on this he responds

gumshoe, can you define crumbed?


Critical levels of patronization achieved while dodging a question, I'd consider him scum if not for his reputation as a bit of a dick, sadly his back story makes it difficult for me at least whose never played with him to suss out his alignment. So instead I'll leave hunting Cora to people who know when hes bullshiting, or I'll go after him myself when I have something concrete. I am not trying to start a fight with him, I'm doing the opposite in fact by not committing to an honest conversation, because if we did the thread would burn going by his agitated tone. Also have you considered that I was trying to give scum something easy yet worthless to comment on in hopes of drawing them out?

I find it kinda funny that of all the things that happened in the thread, the first thing you feel the need to point out is how the "towniest" (others peoples words, not mine) player was acting like a dick... Do you think I'm scum? If not, how does pointing out something everyone knows help find scum? Also Cora isnt shitting up the thread at all, is the mere threat of him getting mad even if hes town more important than everything else thats happened in this game so far?? Also am I actively aggravating Cora? No, I dont interefere with his discussions with other people and Im only really trolling him whenever he tries to engage me. Man our exchanges havent even gone beyond 6 posts...

Its also noteworthy how you suddenly "realized" just how scummy cheese and Artanis looked after Rayn was kind enough to explain it to you...

Yeah I'm not liking you much, question for ya, why hasnt Cora burned up the thread yet if hes such a powder keg? Is he afraid of drawing attention to himself or does he just not care? If the latter why do you?

Oh and if it helps I havent actually read you girl blogs Cora ) : I also havent really meant any of the dumb shit I've said to you, the aggression itself has served me well though XD
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 07 2014 14:28 GMT
#296
On January 07 2014 18:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 14:17 iamperfection wrote:
before i go to bed one thing im confident on is that gumshoe is town. He has steeped into the spotlight and has stated his reasoning confidently and strongly and has provided some actual content. Some of his content is suspect like me prodding yamato is scummy lolololololol but regardless i think this is town and his paly reminds me of his early pm play in got where he stated his reasoning with the same confidence.

So hopefully he doesn't go and fuck it up like he did in that game.


1 down
Gumshoe Town

11 to go

see you all tomorrow

iamperfection how is this different than what gumshoe does in his scumgames? If this is a meta-read you should probably elaborate on that too because it's kinda.. the point of a meta-read, what someone does differently as town/scum.

If this is not a meta-read why are you faking it as one?

its not a full on meta read. Its a hes doing things that townies do read and he just happend to do that once as town before read.

Its a regular read augmented with a little meta. You know the right way to use meta.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 07 2014 14:29 GMT
#297
bugs why you make me sad and not play ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 07 2014 14:32 GMT
#298
Who's scummy iamp?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 07 2014 14:34 GMT
#299
jat do you have any inklings on players one way or the other? I know you said you dont have any real reads yet but you must have some inclinations no?


i cant really tell who your suspicious of by your posts besides calling something "fishy"?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 07 2014 14:35 GMT
#300
On January 07 2014 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who's scummy iamp?

yamato
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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