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On January 07 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck.. Both of you think i am scum (or accuse me..) because you donä't know if i am scum or town?
wtf is that shit logic? I said I agree that I should know your alignment better by now and pointed out posts where I don't really understand your reasoning. It's worrying, not a declaration of a certain read.
I have a town read on gumshoe, i don't see why saying that makes me more likely to be scum.
I asked WoS about his "emotionless opening" because last time i played with him when he was town he raged because he wanted to be mafia, and i wanted to know what's his reasoning for opening the game differently this time.
By saying what i did about thrawn i wanted to make him uncomfortable in case he is scum, and i also promised to have a clear read on him later on on D1 which should help you guys figure out my alignment.
So what's wrong with those things?
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On January 07 2014 16:00 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 15:57 mkfuba07 wrote:I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks. This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it. The argument can't both follow naturally and also be weak enough for scum Cora to have a pseudo-psychological need to legitimize it.
It can if he knows he's actually lying. Town do scummy things all the time - it happens. But if you actually know the person you're accusing is a townie doing something scummy, then you feel the need to legitimize it.
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On January 07 2014 15:57 mkfuba07 wrote:I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks. This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it.
I think you are scum because your opinion on Corazon depends on if Iamp was actually shitflinging. But earlier you said "Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that)"
So you're not willing to do research into something that you say makes or breaks your read.
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Nono thrawn, fuba's argument makes perfect sense.
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nvm that last post i denounce it
guys just ignore me until i say otherwise
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On January 07 2014 16:04 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 15:57 mkfuba07 wrote:I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks. This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it. I think you are scum because your opinion on Corazon depends on if Iamp was actually shitflinging. But earlier you said "Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that)" So you're not willing to do research into something that you say makes or breaks your read.
My argument is the opposite. One would assume that cora actually perceived the shitflinging, or at least believes that we could interpret what he's said as shitflinging, but that's not at all a part of my opinion of him. My opinion involves him validating his accusation by comparing iamp's actions to a different scum player in a different game. Saying he's shitflinging and following it up by saying he seems scummy is fine. Saying it's scummy because this other scum did it in another game gives me the impression he finds his own argument weak.
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yeah i know, i completely misread what you were saying the first time. uh... it makes sense and stuff but I'm kinda "meh" on calling corazon scum for it
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On January 07 2014 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:On January 07 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck.. Both of you think i am scum (or accuse me..) because you donä't know if i am scum or town?
wtf is that shit logic? I said I agree that I should know your alignment better by now and pointed out posts where I don't really understand your reasoning. It's worrying, not a declaration of a certain read. I have a town read on gumshoe, i don't see why saying that makes me more likely to be scum. I asked WoS about his "emotionless opening" because last time i played with him when he was town he raged because he wanted to be mafia, and i wanted to know what's his reasoning for opening the game differently this time. By saying what i did about thrawn i wanted to make him uncomfortable in case he is scum, and i also promised to have a clear read on him later on on D1 which should help you guys figure out my alignment. So what's wrong with those things?
This discussion is not meaningful.
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On January 07 2014 16:31 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 07 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:On January 07 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck.. Both of you think i am scum (or accuse me..) because you donä't know if i am scum or town?
wtf is that shit logic? I said I agree that I should know your alignment better by now and pointed out posts where I don't really understand your reasoning. It's worrying, not a declaration of a certain read. I have a town read on gumshoe, i don't see why saying that makes me more likely to be scum. I asked WoS about his "emotionless opening" because last time i played with him when he was town he raged because he wanted to be mafia, and i wanted to know what's his reasoning for opening the game differently this time. By saying what i did about thrawn i wanted to make him uncomfortable in case he is scum, and i also promised to have a clear read on him later on on D1 which should help you guys figure out my alignment. So what's wrong with those things? This discussion is not meaningful.
It is meaningful to me because you are saying some of my posts worry you and therefore you don't have a town read on me. You are not straight out calling me mafia, but you imply so. When i ask you to clarify you say i posted useless shit and that i am too cavalier. When i ask you how does that make me any alignment you don't have an answer. When i clarify my posts that bothered you you call the conversation meaningless.
What exactly were you trying to achieve with your first post? Because to me it looks like there was no purpose as you think the discussion is meaningless as you just said.
Why are you making useless posts?
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On January 07 2014 16:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 16:31 yamato77 wrote:On January 07 2014 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 07 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:On January 07 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck.. Both of you think i am scum (or accuse me..) because you donä't know if i am scum or town?
wtf is that shit logic? I said I agree that I should know your alignment better by now and pointed out posts where I don't really understand your reasoning. It's worrying, not a declaration of a certain read. I have a town read on gumshoe, i don't see why saying that makes me more likely to be scum. I asked WoS about his "emotionless opening" because last time i played with him when he was town he raged because he wanted to be mafia, and i wanted to know what's his reasoning for opening the game differently this time. By saying what i did about thrawn i wanted to make him uncomfortable in case he is scum, and i also promised to have a clear read on him later on on D1 which should help you guys figure out my alignment. So what's wrong with those things? This discussion is not meaningful. It is meaningful to me because you are saying some of my posts worry you and therefore you don't have a town read on me. You are not straight out calling me mafia, but you imply so. When i ask you to clarify you say i posted useless shit and that i am too cavalier. When i ask you how does that make me any alignment you don't have an answer. When i clarify my posts that bothered you you call the conversation meaningless. What exactly were you trying to achieve with your first post? Because to me it looks like there was no purpose as you think the discussion is meaningless as you just said. Why are you making useless posts?
Discussing it with you is meaningless past seeing your initial reaction.
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So are you saying you think i am town or what?
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rayn I'd like any WoS comments please.
what was he trying to do just now? coach me? i was unable to find out as he wasn't interested in finishing the conversation
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There are couple of things i like about WoS.
This post:
On January 07 2014 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 12:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah that's what at least (unfortunately) gumshoe does as town, he did the same thing in Extractor trick mafia start aswell. Dunno why Artanis went with it - that's slighty suspicious. I think I'm with you on gumshoe being town btw---the accusation of CC trying to pit him and Artanis against each other seems like a really silly point to force as scum.
On January 07 2014 12:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Also the bolded part in this post come off as incredibly townie to me. This could be one of those things I feel like I remember you did in a recent scumgame but I'm not really sure why I think that. Essentially boils down to the 'coaching' thing---really easy to do as scum to make yourself look good. I think you may have done it in PYP though as well so I dunno. Just didn't like the post. Carry on.
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There are couple of things i like about WoS.
This post:
On January 07 2014 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 12:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah that's what at least (unfortunately) gumshoe does as town, he did the same thing in Extractor trick mafia start aswell. Dunno why Artanis went with it - that's slighty suspicious. I think I'm with you on gumshoe being town btw---the accusation of CC trying to pit him and Artanis against each other seems like a really silly point to force as scum.
Also the bolded part in this post come off as incredibly townie to me.
On January 07 2014 12:22 WaveofShadow wrote:This could be one of those things I feel like I remember you did in a recent scumgame but I'm not really sure why I think that. Essentially boils down to the 'coaching' thing---really easy to do as scum to make yourself look good. I think you may have done it in PYP though as well so I dunno. Just didn't like the post. Carry on.
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Do you have any scum reads or other interesting things you wanna talk about?
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Cheesydude and Artanis worry me from the people posting the most atm.
CC uses like ~15 posts in interacting with Artanis and after that gives a read on gumshoe and even a null read on WoS who has posted once, maybe twice. What was the point of discussing shit with Artanis as CC didn't even try to form a read on him.
Artanis did the same with gumshoe. Fuckton of interaction that ends up with calling gumshoe scummy but then again maybe not.
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rayn if i told you i have a valid reason to believe you're scum, what do you think it is?
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