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On December 31 2013 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah it is but it's cool. Forces people to actually play and ifthey don't town loses. ftfy | ||
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On December 31 2013 10:24 Aquanim wrote: Considering this is an instant majority game and I'm the only one from my timezone here I think I'm gonna /out shittiest reason for outing | ||
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I understand that the posting requirement for this game is more aggressive. I understand that this game is Instant Majority Lynch. I understand that this game does not allow posting at night. | ||
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2) alakaslam (filter) ? 4) Hopeless1der (filter) ? 5) Raynpelikoneet (filter) ? 6) coagulation (filter) ? 7) [UoN]Sentinel (filter) confirmed town 8) Yamato77 (filter) ? 10) Mr. Cheesecake (filter) confirmed town | ||
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alakaslam: Well his early game is way more try hard than the towngame I just played with him recently. Then his activity falls off, which is a pretty good scumtell in itself usually, especially when there is no excuse to explain it. Overall his activity points fits with what I perceive his scumgame to look like. Then there is this post: On January 04 2014 09:10 Alakaslam wrote: yeah, this is why I'm lynching you. You are refusing to see what I'm saying. You are scum because you are 1: Blue Hunting 2: Fakeclaiming 3: bullying anyone who opposes you and using it as grounds to mislynch like wut...blue hunting?! @Alaka I want to know how rayne was blue hunting. Also I have no idea why you would jump to the conclusion that rayne was fakeclaiming, since he gave a decent explanation for why he claimed and claiming as scum would be pretty suicidal. Scummers love to accuse townies of blue hunting. I feel like i see it all the time. conclusion: SCUM ~~~~~~ hopeless His position on gumshoe throughout d1 makes no sense. First he soft defends him. On January 04 2014 09:54 Hopeless1der wrote: im saying gumshoe not making sense could be because hes confused, not necessarily mafia. You're totes town To this: On January 04 2014 10:17 Hopeless1der wrote: I'll be honest, I didnt read very closely the first time around. gumshoe is a good lynch. but, BETTER THAN RNG? I DUNNO. Suddenly Gumshoe is a good lynch for no reason other than he didn't read before. I would expect a townie hopeless to have like a sentence explaining what aspect of the argument convinced him. Otherwise there has been a total lack of content from hopeless. He's done some mechanics posts and some troll posts, but his scumhunting is practically non existent. I remember his towngame as having a similar length filter but being more focused on logical scumhunting. Conclusion: SCUM coag There is no amount of effort shown this game, which leans scummy to me. It seems like in his town games, he makes an effort to show you he is town. He doesn't do that at all here. On January 04 2014 10:53 Coagulation wrote: guis dont ignore me. say my name. He loves to do this too scummy to be scum shit as scum. Conclusion: SCUM ~~~~~~~~ yamato town. just town. His early suspicion on thrawn doesn't look like a bus. Plus process of elimination (I already have one too many scummers lol) ~~~~~ So one of my scumreads is town. I'm guessing it's either hopeless or coag, because both are pretty unreadable. | ||
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On January 05 2014 12:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: On D1 you said you were catching up. Why did you end up not catching up then? oh i did catch up. by the time i got done you noobs already hammered gumshoe. kind of pisses me off rayne that you even ask this question because i was pretty mad at you. I wanted to really get into this game and you made that impossible for me by doing the most anti town thing ever. let's just say im glad we couldn't talk at night or i would have been modkilled the things i wanted to say to you <3 | ||
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On January 05 2014 13:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: kush explain this read, preferrably with quotes. yeah i can't find it now that I look for iit. Someone came out hard against thrawn d1, I remember. Must have been someone else though. im demoting him to null. | ||
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cool rayne thanks for making me search through your filter | ||
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First the slam thing. Just wrong. All he has done is appeared to be trying hard without actually doing anything. CC - townish??? hes confirmed town due to being a vet... sent - red??? how the fuck is the vet red? kush - kush. not really since when he wrote that literally all i had posted so far was "catching up" On January 05 2014 05:09 yamato77 wrote: Slam - town makes more sense and is playing better than anyone in the game. Rayn - cop claim (probably town) hard to see a world where scum rayn is this active and in the spotlight, but not impossible. Now that we assume there is a vig and have a vet claim, I will have to run through the possibilities. CC - townish protown, but I have some concerns (formerly stated), now vet claims, will have to scrutinize thrawn - red voting, low activity, typical scum thrawn (skill!) ish hammer on gumshoe, called me out for hilariously bad reasons, but is often weird to me coag - null ? hopeless - red look at filter, lynch with fire (does not change much) sent - redd kush - kush | ||
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yamato should be given time, obiviously. | ||
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On January 05 2014 16:59 yamato77 wrote: No one is confirmed town for claiming anything, for starters. did you read the game? because sent, rayn, cc are 100% confirmed and that's not even an opinion. | ||
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On January 05 2014 18:07 yamato77 wrote: Honestly, I came into the game expecting to not even understand him. It's enough for me that he's readable and that I can follow his thoughts. I'm not lynching him. I think readability is a choice he makes, and therefore it's a null tell. | ||
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coag: alakaslam has been lurker hunting the entire game and thats a red flag. scum like to focus on lurker discussion a lot. gonna fos on slam. likely scum. this is dead on | ||
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Rayne, hopeless, you are voting for yamato on the basis that his scumplan is to push the lynch of claimed prs. That is the scum motivation you are giving for his opionion about claimed pr. That is not realistic. I don't think scum would ever try to do that. Scum is going to push the vts, like myself, coag, and probably yamato. So with that in mind, Yamato's disagreement with you really has no plausible scum motivation behind it. So where are the scum. Well I just found one. He is jumping right on rayn's "u no make sense!" yamato wagon. | ||
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1) kushm4sta (filter) 2) [red]alakaslam/[red] 3) Gumshoe (filter) Mineral Line Drone Lynched D1 4) [red]Hopeless1der[r/ed] (filter) 5) Raynpelikoneet (filter) 6) coagulation (filter) 7) [UoN]Sentinel (filter) 8) Yamato77 (filter) 9) thrawn2112 (filter) AFK in the Mineral Line Shot N1 10) Mr. Cheesecake (filter) | ||
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1) kushm4sta (filter) 2) alakaslam 3) Gumshoe (filter) Mineral Line Drone Lynched D1 4) Hopeless1der 5) Raynpelikoneet (filter) 6) coagulation (filter) 7) [UoN]Sentinel (filter) 8) Yamato77 (filter) 9) thrawn2112 (filter) AFK in the Mineral Line Shot N1 10) Mr. Cheesecake (filter) and that's why you already press preview before you use tags. | ||
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On January 06 2014 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: So kushmasta why is Coagulation town? i can trace that back to mostly one sentence he said. I already pointed it out somewhere in my filter... have fun. ^taste of your own medicine | ||
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On January 05 2014 18:25 kushm4sta wrote: coag is actually super town for realizing this. coag: this is dead on ok i did it for you | ||
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On January 06 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: But that's entirely incorrect. Alakaslam attacked me on D1, that's not lurker hunting. ok thanks for reminding me. that attack on you is scummy in itself. I mean he did the same thing that you are calling yamato scummy for, except he backtracked super quickly to conform to popular opinion. imo that makes alaka's stance a much scummier version of yamato's. | ||
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On January 06 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: So yamato and kush are scum. your problem is you don't listen to people and you just talk | ||
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this case on yamato is completely lacking in town type logic. All his arguments are very surface level and very easy kinds of arguments for scum to make. On January 05 2014 22:52 Hopeless1der wrote: + Show Spoiler + If you have time, or happen to remember LXIII, yamato is absolutely capable of providing a compelling and eloquent argument. He has multiple large posts that arent simply a summary they are brief analyses of players that demonstrate critical thought and scrutiny. In this game, his list posts are lacking in this regard. I especially have a problem with the fact that he has a documented history of thinking I'm generally useless and has found sufficient reasoning in "my filter" to say I should be lynched with fire. As rayn already noted, Yamato has been trying to cast doubt on the blueclaims On January 05 2014 17:29 yamato77 wrote: This is a bit silly. There's no conclusive evidence that any of their claims is 100% confirmed. There are no counterclaims, that is evidence by itself. Unless yamato is counterclaiming (and he hasnt to my knowledge) then the simple answer is that all the night action claims are legit. Rayn's needs to be scrutinized at this point, but imo his claim also checks out. Ergo 3 confirmed town for the sake of limiting our scope of analysis unless there are counterclaims. Of the three, I trust CC's the most. It's believable that scum wanted to let Rayn live because of how he played D1 (or that Rayn is possibly scum) and thus shot CC, who is a better player than Slam and the second towniest player behind him. Where does yamato fall on this list of townliness? No one else thinks its strange that he doesn't consider himself a viable shot? Especially after the points I pulled from LXIII about him knowing he was about to die before he was shot? If I believe CC's claim, I kinda have to believe Sent's claim as well, considering the setup. There is a possible scenario where they are the last two mafia and intentionally did this, but I haven't enough reason to doubt my read on CC to believe in it yet. Sent seemed mafia-ish D1, but it's not enough to take a leap of faith. This is unnecessary fluff Rayn's claim makes no sense as any alignment, so I'm basically ignoring the fact that he claimed altogether. There is NO WAY to confirm his claim yet and NO REASON to ignore him now because of it. He led the lynch D1, and has now basically just peaced out of any responsibility for how D2 goes. It's definitely possible that he was scumbuddies with thrawn and accused him D1. rayn has covered this beautifully already here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20533299 That leaves Coag, you, and Hopeless as possible mafia, with AT LEAST ONE likely to be, POSSIBLY TWO, if Rayn is to be believed. The correct play would be to thus pick one of you three and lynch him, and I'm pretty sure I already said Hopeless is the scummiest. By the way, the list was MOSTLY based off reads I made during the night phase. I have only just now begun to consider the implications of the claims seriously. coag, kush, hopeless as possible mafia. convenient that slams missing. I guess he's being readable this game and the 3 of us aren't? You don't need to be scummy to be mafia in yamato's game, you just need to be lurk or troll and that is sufficient. . Also he completely ignores my defense of yamato and focuses on "Why doesn't he claim if he's blue?" which is not even th epoint... | ||
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@cheesecake look within the quotes you will find your answer | ||
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I see it like this: If alaka is town, which is possible i guess but I doubt it, coag is town. If alaka is scum, 30% chance coag is busing. | ||
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On January 06 2014 03:39 Alakaslam wrote: This is a great reason to plynch Yamato, ASSUMING THAT IS TRUE- can you back your statement up Cheesecake? However, I will read Yamato for myself now. a great reason to lynch yamato is some half baked connection theory??? ok.. Sometimes I can't even believe the scummy shit that comes out of people's mouths and no one else notices it. Yamato said he was busy. He said his activity would pick up soon. Give him time to return and do something for jesus sakes. | ||
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Is it that you think a real PR is hiding for some reason or you didn't read the OP or what? | ||
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hopeless' long case thing d2 is also not giving me town vibes. It's filled with lazy, scummy thoughts. | ||
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On January 05 2014 22:52 Hopeless1der wrote: + Show Spoiler + If you have time, or happen to remember LXIII, yamato is absolutely capable of providing a compelling and eloquent argument. He has multiple large posts that arent simply a summary they are brief analyses of players that demonstrate critical thought and scrutiny. In this game, his list posts are lacking in this regard. I especially have a problem with the fact that he has a documented history of thinking I'm generally useless and has found sufficient reasoning in "my filter" to say I should be lynched with fire. As rayn already noted, Yamato has been trying to cast doubt on the blueclaims On January 05 2014 17:29 yamato77 wrote: This is a bit silly. There's no conclusive evidence that any of their claims is 100% confirmed. There are no counterclaims, that is evidence by itself. Unless yamato is counterclaiming (and he hasnt to my knowledge) then the simple answer is that all the night action claims are legit. Rayn's needs to be scrutinized at this point, but imo his claim also checks out. Ergo 3 confirmed town for the sake of limiting our scope of analysis unless there are counterclaims. Of the three, I trust CC's the most. It's believable that scum wanted to let Rayn live because of how he played D1 (or that Rayn is possibly scum) and thus shot CC, who is a better player than Slam and the second towniest player behind him. Where does yamato fall on this list of townliness? No one else thinks its strange that he doesn't consider himself a viable shot? Especially after the points I pulled from LXIII about him knowing he was about to die before he was shot? If I believe CC's claim, I kinda have to believe Sent's claim as well, considering the setup. There is a possible scenario where they are the last two mafia and intentionally did this, but I haven't enough reason to doubt my read on CC to believe in it yet. Sent seemed mafia-ish D1, but it's not enough to take a leap of faith. This is unnecessary fluff Rayn's claim makes no sense as any alignment, so I'm basically ignoring the fact that he claimed altogether. There is NO WAY to confirm his claim yet and NO REASON to ignore him now because of it. He led the lynch D1, and has now basically just peaced out of any responsibility for how D2 goes. It's definitely possible that he was scumbuddies with thrawn and accused him D1. rayn has covered this beautifully already here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20533299 That leaves Coag, you, and Hopeless as possible mafia, with AT LEAST ONE likely to be, POSSIBLY TWO, if Rayn is to be believed. The correct play would be to thus pick one of you three and lynch him, and I'm pretty sure I already said Hopeless is the scummiest. By the way, the list was MOSTLY based off reads I made during the night phase. I have only just now begun to consider the implications of the claims seriously. coag, kush, hopeless as possible mafia. convenient that slams missing. I guess he's being readable this game and the 3 of us aren't? You don't need to be scummy to be mafia in yamato's game, you just need to be lurk or troll and that is sufficient. . | ||
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On January 06 2014 15:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: And then there is kushmasta. What just happened was that i destroyed all his reads because he didn't actyually have any reads because they were either bullshit or based on false pretenses. So yeah, if yamato and kush are not mafia i dunno what the fuck is going on in this game. hi im back. how/where did you destroy my reads? | ||
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@hopeless Why would you SWEAR he is scum?? He is inactive as shit as both alignments so I don't get how you can be super sure he is scum. @everyone else, especially rayn, why do you think hopeless is town?? | ||
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am i safe in saying the lynch choices are yamato or hopeless? | ||
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On January 07 2014 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: If you read thrawns filter it makes me think yamato is mafia, because he attacks hopeless subtely You are referring to this right? On January 04 2014 11:20 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't get you here. You say hopeless is setting himself up to potentially hide behind a random lynch and you think that is reckless in a townie way? I disagree that this clears hopeless, because the real intent of thrawn's post is to attack rayn. Thrawn doesn't pay attention to hopeless himself at all. | ||
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On January 07 2014 01:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: kush why dont you want to lynch yamato good question. I don't have a great reason actually. Sadly it's mostly an anti-connection theory that popped into my head when I saw hopeless lunge at him. Also I think the way he opposed confirming the claims as town was dumb but I doubt scum would do it like that. | ||
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On January 07 2014 01:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: The reason i like hopeless lynch, besides previously stated junk, is that both hopeless and coag were on the gum wagon for jack reasoning. If it's yamato + kush / slam then 0 maf were behind the d1 mislynch slam was also on the gum lynch also for jack reasoning | ||
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WHY... I have not read anything that has convinced me of this in the slightest. | ||
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On January 04 2014 10:17 Hopeless1der wrote: I'll be honest, I didnt read very closely the first time around. gumshoe is a good lynch. but, BETTER THAN RNG? I DUNNO. this one? | ||
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Reread alaka. | ||
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I remember one thing was he kept talking about RNG into d2. Why would RNG be a factor in anything D2? I want scumreads not RNG lynch talk. Another thing was his +1 on gumshoe. Another thing was his shitty d1 which had a bunch of posts i found shitty for several different reasons. Another thing is his complete fall off in activity from d1 to d2. | ||
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On January 07 2014 06:39 yamato77 wrote: If it's two of coag/kush/slam, I don't understand why they didn't hammer me. You literally have the worst understanding of mechanics I've ever seen. | ||
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read my filter again | ||
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why do you want to kill yamato now? is it still lazy scum meta? because he has talked a shit ton. | ||
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i read his filter and eh it doesn't make me think town. plus if he's scum im confirmed town lol. | ||
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On January 09 2014 02:28 Hopeless1der wrote: i'm not angry, I just have POE'd you to be scum ready ima blow you mind here: coag/alaka | ||
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On January 05 2014 15:58 Coagulation wrote: so this exchange makes rayn look pretty solid town imo [UoN]Sentinel is vig obv town Yamato is playing piss poor and im leaning scum on him. Hes using pretty shit logic like alakaslam has been lurker hunting the entire game and thats a red flag. scum like to focus on lurker discussion a lot. gonna fos on slam. likely scum. Kush looks town to me so far. but that aint worth shit cause hes unreadable. Mr. Cheesecake is vet. gonna assume its legit. Hopeless1der sorta got a scum vibe but dunno. mostly null and of course these reads come with the ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l9chR3K.png) This is coag's only real post. A bunch of bullshit reads except in the middle there is some actual smart observation. That is because it's easy for him to do since it's a bus on alaka. Why wouldn't coag bus, since there is no penalty for it because no one is going to be convinced by his reads anyway? Scum always treat their scumbuddies different from how they treat townies. That is what is going on in this post. | ||
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actually ill just hammer yamato then nk you | ||
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D2, 6v2 with 3 confirmed town. So out of 5 possible scum , you have 2 chances to lynch one. That is a really easy scenario for town. | ||
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