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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 24 2014 15:46 GMT
#1341
gonzaw so defensive!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 15:47 GMT
#1342
On January 25 2014 00:42 austinmcc wrote:
(If you want a break from people not being satisfied, maybe, you could always look into what, in a world where Gonzaw got shot N2 and flipped red and everyone who has ever hosted a mafia game came into thread and said "Yes, Gonzaw was red," we all missed about Gonzaw and what should have tipped us off that he was mafia. And then also maybe maybe his third buddy if someone would then slot into place particularly easily)

(I know there I other stuff going on, but I'd actually still be interested in your thoughts there)

Austin, why?
Even before the sandroba business I thought he was town. A bus makes absolutely NO sense here, so I don't understand why you're bringing it up to me. There is no way I see Gonzaw getting lynched today (or likely the rest of the game..? Dunno if he was alive long enough I suppose maybe we'd be forced to reconsider) or for the next little while at least so I don't see a point in the topic. Are you baiting something? You haven't asked this to anyone else. I hate being baited because I feel belittled by it, and it's bad enough that I have an inferiority complex in this particular game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2014 15:48 GMT
#1343
KISS everybody
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 24 2014 15:49 GMT
#1344
On January 25 2014 00:46 gonzaw wrote:
auston i dunno what you are planning with this "tell me why gonzaw could be scum" thing, but please dont waste time on something pointless
I don't plan on making the thread 80% gonzaw could be scum. I don't think you ARE scum, and it's not about finding actual reasons why you might be.

It's more just trying to get folks I want to hear more/different things from to post on odd subjects, to critically look at filters that aren't being critically looked at (people READ your posts, but always as you being towngonzaw. Maybe coming from the other side pulls up neat things that we aren't seeing, emphasizes certain parts of your posts, whatever). I also just want to see how his thoughts go when he's considering something like that, which will end up being relevant to my read on WoS.

At worst, this is something dumb that, for good or bad reasons, can affect my vote today. At best, something interesting gets found, it affects other people's votes, whatever.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 15:51 GMT
#1345
On January 25 2014 00:43 gonzaw wrote:
Yeah marvy is town

Wos pleasd understand my vocal resistance,to your and VEs theories when they hinge and all 3 scum bussing all of them and no one of them even bothering to mysslynch a townie on fricking D1

I do understand it. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop, that's all.

On January 25 2014 00:45 austinmcc wrote:
Not just bussing but SANDROBA bussing instead of them bussing sandroba. In that situation, I don't know why anyone would have Sandroba work to kill off 1/3 the mafia team so that he could get to D2 and....continue to do nothing for the rest of the game?

There are aspects off that team that you can MAKE work, but I don't think Sandroba works in that setup, based on his push of prome, the strategy that would have to be behind it, and his late return with the LoL game stuff.

It works if you consider an apologetic sandroba who pissed off his scumteam by lurking or who considered a bus like this woudl be a good idea.
Again I believe if Prome is scum then sandroba's case on him was PURPOSEFULLY weak.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 24 2014 15:51 GMT
#1346
Well whatever. But dont clutter the thread
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 15:51 GMT
#1347
On January 25 2014 00:49 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 00:46 gonzaw wrote:
auston i dunno what you are planning with this "tell me why gonzaw could be scum" thing, but please dont waste time on something pointless
I don't plan on making the thread 80% gonzaw could be scum. I don't think you ARE scum, and it's not about finding actual reasons why you might be.

It's more just trying to get folks I want to hear more/different things from to post on odd subjects, to critically look at filters that aren't being critically looked at (people READ your posts, but always as you being towngonzaw. Maybe coming from the other side pulls up neat things that we aren't seeing, emphasizes certain parts of your posts, whatever). I also just want to see how his thoughts go when he's considering something like that, which will end up being relevant to my read on WoS.

At worst, this is something dumb that, for good or bad reasons, can affect my vote today. At best, something interesting gets found, it affects other people's votes, whatever.

lol.
And you don't find the fact that I continually go against the thinking/grain of the thread 'odd' enough, huh?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 24 2014 15:53 GMT
#1348
On January 25 2014 00:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 00:42 austinmcc wrote:
(If you want a break from people not being satisfied, maybe, you could always look into what, in a world where Gonzaw got shot N2 and flipped red and everyone who has ever hosted a mafia game came into thread and said "Yes, Gonzaw was red," we all missed about Gonzaw and what should have tipped us off that he was mafia. And then also maybe maybe his third buddy if someone would then slot into place particularly easily)

(I know there I other stuff going on, but I'd actually still be interested in your thoughts there)

Austin, why?
Even before the sandroba business I thought he was town. A bus makes absolutely NO sense here, so I don't understand why you're bringing it up to me. There is no way I see Gonzaw getting lynched today (or likely the rest of the game..? Dunno if he was alive long enough I suppose maybe we'd be forced to reconsider) or for the next little while at least so I don't see a point in the topic. Are you baiting something? You haven't asked this to anyone else. I hate being baited because I feel belittled by it, and it's bad enough that I have an inferiority complex in this particular game.
No, I'm not baiting. I'm not saying like, COULD GONZAW BE SCUM1?!?!?!?!?!?! That's why the stupid situations are stupid, because he's already confirmed scum in the scenarios I'm presenting.

But I like...reading through posts. We didn't chat as much as we should have beforehand, and this is a funky thing to start off discussion or for me to read some of your posting or whatever. This is designed, well or poorly, for me to get better insight into you and your alignment.

And again, maybe if you're looking from an angle you haven't been, you notice a particularly good/bad point he made. Maybe it changes how you view the game. Maybe it doesn't. Maybe it gives you something to ... "contribute", because I know other people won't find it a contribution except I will, that isn't because people are attacking you.

NONE OF THIS SOUNDS SUPER COMPELLING
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 24 2014 15:54 GMT
#1349
On January 25 2014 00:48 gonzaw wrote:
KISS everybody

This is the motto I live my life by.

austin: no. YOU stop cluttering the thread. Don't really care how useful it is for you, find other stuff that's useful to you that isn't dumb please.

Why is everyone finding Fool scummy just as I'm finding him townie? It's like suddenly people are hyper aware of what he did on Day 1 now even though that was sometime ago, and no-one cares so much about anything since.

WoS, do you really find Foolish finding an inconsistency/change in stance you made re: whatever-the-odd-thing-was-that-I've literally-just-forgotten-despite-reading-it-2-minutes-ago scummy?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 24 2014 15:55 GMT
#1350
On January 25 2014 00:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 00:45 austinmcc wrote:
Not just bussing but SANDROBA bussing instead of them bussing sandroba. In that situation, I don't know why anyone would have Sandroba work to kill off 1/3 the mafia team so that he could get to D2 and....continue to do nothing for the rest of the game?

There are aspects off that team that you can MAKE work, but I don't think Sandroba works in that setup, based on his push of prome, the strategy that would have to be behind it, and his late return with the LoL game stuff.

It works if you consider an apologetic sandroba who pissed off his scumteam by lurking or who considered a bus like this woudl be a good idea.
Again I believe if Prome is scum then sandroba's case on him was PURPOSEFULLY weak.

This might hold water if Prome wasn't one of sandroba's original targets. That's a very long play that I find really quite unlikely.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 15:59 GMT
#1351
On January 25 2014 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 00:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 25 2014 00:45 austinmcc wrote:
Not just bussing but SANDROBA bussing instead of them bussing sandroba. In that situation, I don't know why anyone would have Sandroba work to kill off 1/3 the mafia team so that he could get to D2 and....continue to do nothing for the rest of the game?

There are aspects off that team that you can MAKE work, but I don't think Sandroba works in that setup, based on his push of prome, the strategy that would have to be behind it, and his late return with the LoL game stuff.

It works if you consider an apologetic sandroba who pissed off his scumteam by lurking or who considered a bus like this woudl be a good idea.
Again I believe if Prome is scum then sandroba's case on him was PURPOSEFULLY weak.

This might hold water if Prome wasn't one of sandroba's original targets. That's a very long play that I find really quite unlikely.

Yes to the question about Foolish.
And I suppose you're right about prome/sandro but can you really call what sandro did 'targeting?' It was an early game read. Hell if anything bussing is EASIER at that stage in the game; he very easily could have just stuck with prome to try and stay consistent (which is also something scum often strive for).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 24 2014 16:01 GMT
#1352
This is stupid.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 16:02 GMT
#1353
Austin, I'd love to talk with you, but maybe we can pick something slightly more...fruitful?
I mean it can still be oddball in such a way as you get what you want but maybe it should be thread-relevant?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 16:03 GMT
#1354
On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid.

Is it scummy?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 24 2014 16:03 GMT
#1355
On January 25 2014 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Austin, I'd love to talk with you, but maybe we can pick something slightly more...fruitful?
I mean it can still be oddball in such a way as you get what you want but maybe it should be thread-relevant?
Meh.

I guess. You said you'd thought about marv, but not really looked hard. Could you poke around marv or kita specifically, just one dude?
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 16:05 GMT
#1356
Glah I still gotta do Toad too.
I'm getting a little burnt out tbh, and I get the feeling nothing I've done has even budged anyone's opinion of me or of their current reads.

Can we have a discussion about something that doesn't require me filter diving everyone in the game? Because it seems I'm going to do that anyway eventually and it's probably going to be useless considering how it's gone so far.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 24 2014 16:06 GMT
#1357
On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid.

Is it scummy?

I'm not sure. gonzaw was kinda kidding around earlier, but mafia are in a fucking vile spot so stupidity like this is something I'd countenance. VE+you are pushing weird scumteam theories. Toad thinks Fool is townier than sand voters. kita is oddly on the sidelines. In your favour is that you are here.
Whether you're mafia or not, though, I don't get this whole line of anything.

Could Prome+sandro be mafia together? Yes, it's possible
Is there any particular reason why this should be the case? No, not really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 24 2014 16:08 GMT
#1358
Let's try this for the moment.

##Vote: VisceraEyes

Come play, sweetcheeks.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 16:08 GMT
#1359
From my perspective, mafia are not in a vile spot at all, especially if VE is town. If he is scum they're not doing great (assuminghe gets lynched today) but you can't tell me it's not going to be hell to find the last one.
(Because it's not me)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 24 2014 16:10 GMT
#1360
I've already explained how there are way more elegant (and likelier to work) ways where I could convince you not to focus on me/vote me if I were scum, but I don't simply want that, I want to try and steer town in a direction where we're not likely to throw our 'lead.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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