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On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence? Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town. Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum. KISS.
This is getting ridiculous.
Are you really KISSING given your current theory?
Can we move on to something that isn't this? This isn't helping me getting a read on you really.
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On January 25 2014 01:30 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence? Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town. Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.KISS. Let's assume I'm in your shoes. Let's assume your shoes are townie shoes. I don't think I put it that way.
I don't give a shit because it's the truth.
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On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town.
Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now.
Yes it is. But with good reason.
Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.
That's misdirection. The current discussion has nothing to do with you defending VE or whatever, it's you pushing that ridiculous scumteam.
Anyways, you still think those 3 are scum? Did my "reality check" make you try to rethink it or anything?
KISS.
I prefer AC/DC to be honest.
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On January 25 2014 01:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence? Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town. Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum. KISS. This is getting ridiculous. Are you really KISSING given your current theory? Can we move on to something that isn't this? This isn't helping me getting a read on you really.
Then, pray tell, what will?
I'm quickly losing steam for today.
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Really, we should all just KISS.
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On January 25 2014 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:30 Toadesstern wrote:On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence? Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town. Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.KISS. Let's assume I'm in your shoes. Let's assume your shoes are townie shoes. I don't think I put it that way. I don't give a shit because it's the truth.
what's the truth. VE being mafia and you being wrong? Why didn't you say so from the beginning instead of doing those 2 wall of texts telling everyone how town he is for things that are in your opinion most likely not alignment indicative.
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On January 25 2014 01:31 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town.
Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Yes it is. But with good reason. Show nested quote +
Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.
That's misdirection. The current discussion has nothing to do with you defending VE or whatever, it's you pushing that ridiculous scumteam. Anyways, you still think those 3 are scum? Did my "reality check" make you try to rethink it or anything? I prefer AC/DC to be honest.
I have to interlace the scumteam theory with my innocence because you people clearly still do not believe it.
As for your post, I'm working on it.
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Wave: Toad stuff maybe.
The problem with this whole conversation is this:
a)townie paranoia and weird connection theory
b)mafia inventing some theory and sticking to it
???
Or maybe - are you voting Foolishness? Or what's going to happen there?
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kitaman27
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On January 25 2014 01:16 gonzaw wrote:@kita: Who is scum? Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 06:01 kitaman27 wrote:
It seems to be that the individuals who were absent are the ones most likely to be mafia (VE, WoS, Holy), which seems to be where the town is leaning as well. I'm going to reread all three when I have the time. You posted this like 20 hours ago. I suggest you stop fooling around and get to it.
Still at work for another 6 hours. I'll need time for dinner and to read the thread, so I can't imagine I'll have much sooner than 8-9 hours from now aside from the random side comment. I'm still at VE, Holy, WoS, and I'm probably going to bring Foolishness back into the mix.
I have read through Wave's posts and he clearly is putting effort in. I haven't put much thought into the quality or mind frame of the posts. I'd probably lean VE over WoS at the moment, though I haven't looked at Toad really at all.
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On January 25 2014 01:32 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:30 Toadesstern wrote:On January 25 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:24 gonzaw wrote:On January 25 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:15 gonzaw wrote:WoS, please, let me get this straight:You think, there are 3 scum: X, Y and Z. You think scum X bussed scum Y ALL D1, without wavering, without changing his vote or even attempting to change his mind, and doing so up until the final minutes of the lynch You think Z casted suspicon on Y, and 30 minutes before deadline decided to bus Y You also think, that immediately after that, Y decides to come to the thread and bus X back. All of this, while this is the votecount at the time: (X): 4 votes (Y): 4 votes (Z): 1 vote You are going to tell me, not a SINGLE townie had a vote on them by the end of D1 (not taking into account Holy's wasted vote). You are going to tell me, that scum made a plan, where they cross-bus each other, vote NO ONE other than each other, end up with ALL THREE OF THEM having votes, and (again BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT) end up with NO TOWNIE HAVING A VOTE ON THEM AT ALL. Not only this, you are going to tell me that scum were completely happy with this (check Prome and Foo's behaviour at the deadline, they were pretty calm about it). You are also going to tell me, that after whatever sick plan they had, which involved getting X lynched, crumbled when a last minute switch to Z happened, then Y was still calm as fuck (even though their whole convoluted complex bussing plan they've been trying to perfect for hours and hours just crumbled at their feet) and even decided to jump on the bandwagon when he had stated in the thread he thought Z to not be that scummy and could be bad town. WoS, repeat what I've just saidDo it, with a straight face. On January 25 2014 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 25 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
This is stupid. Is it scummy? If you keep up with this absolutely. Oh I see and so if you magically convince me now, all of a sudden I'm off the hook? lol what a joke. I see EXACTLY the problem VE was having. You leave absolutely no room for anything other than your current views when talking to either of us. Considering this, and the fact that we still try and converse with you and you have no intention of changing your mind in the slightest (me more so than VE) I think it's a fucking miracle that anybody would continue. Well WOS, only you and VE seem to have that problem (I don't see Toad nor kita complaining). Both of you came up with this ridiculous idea of the Foo/sandro/Prome scumteam. Coincidence? Nope, it's the reason I've been considering him town. Go ahead and tell me your post is not bias right now. Tell me how likely it is that as scum I'd take the difficult way out here, hard defend my scumbuddy ALL GAME rather than acquiesce quietly. It's waaaayyyyy more likely that I am wrong about VE than we are both scum.KISS. Let's assume I'm in your shoes. Let's assume your shoes are townie shoes. I don't think I put it that way. I don't give a shit because it's the truth. what's the truth. VE being mafia and you being wrong? Why didn't you say so from the beginning instead of doing those 2 wall of texts telling everyone how town he is for things that are in your opinion most likely not alignment indicative.
No Toad, don't twist my words.
I believe we are both town, but i am trying to show from an outside perspective how much more likely it is that if the first isn't true (which everyone assumes) then VE is the only scum of the two of us.
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This game is actually having a TL Mafia LI air around it.
Can't really explain it, but WoS and VE's actions this N1/D2 kind of reflect Toad's and VE's actions on LI, in particular ways.
Kind of funny
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kitaman27
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I also think that instead of looking at Sandroba-Foolishness-Prom, we should be thinking about Sandroba-Foolishness.
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Actually it's the anti-LI.
Did VE tell you to do that? If so he's a boss lol
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On January 25 2014 01:33 marvellosity wrote:
Wave: Toad stuff maybe.
The problem with this whole conversation is this:
a)townie paranoia and weird connection theory
b)mafia inventing some theory and sticking to it
???
Or maybe - are you voting Foolishness? Or what's going to happen there?
I'd probably vote Foolishness over Prome at this point because I find Foolishness scummier, and haven't done Toad yet.
Should I be reading Holy as well? Because that will take a little longer.
Actually I will. It may be a little bit, especially if I continue my thread presence.
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On January 25 2014 01:35 gonzaw wrote:
Actually it's the anti-LI.
Did VE tell you to do that? If so he's a boss lol
Stop it gonzaw. How many times?
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kitaman27
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On a side note, I hate the fact that the name Foolishness can't be easily shortened. I suppose I could start calling him Fool, but then people wouldn't know if I'm referring to him or VE.
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On January 25 2014 01:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On a side note, I hate the fact that the name Foolishness can't be easily shortened. I suppose I could start calling him Fool, but then people wouldn't know if I'm referring to him or VE.
I've never understood why people on this forum go for WoS over wave.
TL mafia is the only place this occurs and i use this name everywhere.
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kitaman27
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On January 25 2014 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On a side note, I hate the fact that the name Foolishness can't be easily shortened. I suppose I could start calling him Fool, but then people wouldn't know if I'm referring to him or VE. I've never understood why people on this forum go for WoS over wave. TL mafia is the only place this occurs and i use this name everywhere.
Apparently I use both at the same time -_-
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WOS, what worries me is your lack of doubt.
You are just assuming VE is town. The stuff you posted is not alignment indicative at all basically, but you attribute subjective value to it. Your wording shows that basically.
Then you have lots of people with cases on VE, posting stuff about him, telling you "Hey, maybe VE is not town".
I'd think you'd reconsider VE, take into account town sentiment, etc. But you straight up jump to "VE is so so town" (even if you aren't saying it, you are heavily implying it).
I don't understand how you don't even leave the possibility of VE being scum open, again, considering how unconvincing most of your defense of VE was.
Your defense on VE is based on nitpicking some posts of his, and showing in a contrived manner how, maybe, perhaps, in your opinion, from your own experience, can come from town VE. Every single one of your points is like that.
I find it kind of hard to believe WOS, unless you are having some of weird anxiety attack or something? Dunno
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On January 25 2014 01:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:35 gonzaw wrote:
Actually it's the anti-LI.
Did VE tell you to do that? If so he's a boss lol Stop it gonzaw. How many times?
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