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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
VE isn't interested in the lynch, let it go with even votes, just doesn't seem right. Which is why he might be scum. WoS keeps pressuring me after a lynch that should look really good for me. He isn't terrible (though he isn't top rung in this game in particular) and so he should know that hammer voting scum d1 usually indicates town. And yeah, I didn't actually cast the deciding vote but I thought I did. | ||
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Promethelax
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On January 23 2014 08:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Please stop posting. Final Vote Count - Deadline at Wednesday, Jan 22 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Sandroba (5): gonzaw, austinmcc, marvellosity, Hapahauli, Promethelax, Promethelax (3): Foolishness, Kitaman27, Sandroba, Foolishness (2): VisceraEyes, WaveofShadow, gonzaw (1): HolyFlare Kitaman27 (0): WaveOfShadow (0): HolyFlare (0): Hapahauli (0): VisceraEyes (0): Not voted (0) If you notice a mistake, please let us know! Sandroba is set to be lynched. So from this I'd say at least one scum is not on sandro and if a scum is on sand he isn't around at deadline. Since all votes on sand were at deadline only Austin/Marv could be scum voters since they'd be the ones believing scumdroba wouldn't be lynched and getting credit from it (assuming fool is town, not a great assumption though) think Marv is better at reading thread sentiment and would know that the switch was going to happen moe than Austin. Gonzaw, me, Hapa are town from lynch. Gon/hap town already anyways so I don't learn anything here. Marv and Kita look bad for unvoting scum. Kita more than Marv. I think. Not sure. I would not be shocked if last two scum are in WoS, VE, holy, fool Kita. I need to looking to possible pairs. I think VE is best .ynch of those. Going to reread sand now. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On January 23 2014 07:15 sandroba wrote: Sup. I'm 95% convinced prom is scum. I could go on and explain my absence etc, but I won't. Let's talk about important things instead. Getting past the openning post that has already been discussed, his come back post with the kita vote does not make sense for town prom: This is clearly a total misconception of what kita is trying to acomplish in his post which was question gonzaw in his motives when making an useless post about foolishness early meta and move the thread off an issue he deemed unimportant at the time. Not only that, the reason he he votes for him is because it "reminds him of a game in which he did something simillar" and was scum. Not only this already smells of total bullshit, this already makes sense from the backward logic scum normally has of first deciding who to vote for and later trying to justify it, twisting it to suit their needs. If you are not convinced take a look at how prom presents his vote in the recent pyp game as town: You could go on and compare both filters from these games and notice how different his tone and assertiviness are a lot different this game in a mafia oriented way. In this game his play is totally reactive and comes from a defensive position, where in the game he was town, even replacing in a slot that had a fair bit of suspicion on it he promoted discussion and basically took over the game. The man is scum. ##vote: promthelax To the bolder: hohoho. Scum calling out their own tactics. Sand defends fool, Kita. Attacks prom, gonzaw Buddies WoS Between me/fool I'm trying to think of who I'd see as an easier target from a scum perspective if both were town. I think I'm harder to lynch thn fool since I have more thread or essence and a better excuse to be bad while fool has poor thread presence and less excuse to be bad. Thing is I'm pretty sure sand is one of those player who has a vet hard on and would know fool way better. Than he knows me (though in three games with him I've voted him d1 twice when he was scum and bossed the fuck out of pyp once). Still think he'd respect fool more than me so I'm not sure his choice to attack me over fool is deeply enlightening. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 23 2014 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I was making dinner. I was interested, I just was frying fucking porkchops and that's labor intensive. Like, I don't know what else to say. I even asked you why you preferred Foolish over sandroba, you can't say I wasn't interested in the lynch. I just had other shit going on. And i was watching 2 football matches. So? Didnt stop me from doing shit at deadlune Ve, so you ask prome why he prefers a foo lynch over a sandro lynch...yet yor vote was on foo. That question you asked applies to you as well, why did you prefer lynching foo over sansro? Funny stuff, you badgering someone else about something before doing it yourself | ||
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gonzaw
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On January 23 2014 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I was making dinner. I was interested, I just was frying fucking porkchops and that's labor intensive. Like, I don't know what else to say. I even asked you why you preferred Foolish over sandroba, you can't say I wasn't interested in the lynch. I just had other shit going on. No no, VE was totes interested guys, he just couldn't be assed to participate in shennanies (VE COULD NOT BE ASSED TO PARTICIPATE IN SHENNANIES!!!! I cannot stress the oddness enough) but he could come in here to discredit my findings on his play. Yet he hasn't looked back at the lynch in an attempt to find scum while my drunk ass did. What VE is doing is needlessly defending himself without providing any useful content. Town VE at least tries to get things done. This VE is just doing nothing. Would lynch. Gonzaw, buddy, shall we dance? There are 9 hours left in the night phase I think. You and I could catch entire scum team in that time. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
If VE isn't scum, who is? Me, austin, marv, Hapa, Prome are more townie based on the shenannies Foo seemed to get better. That leaves WoS, kita, VE and Toad. Out of ALL of those....VE is the most suspicious by far. And if he isn't scum, then stuff makes way less sense On January 23 2014 23:18 Promethelax wrote: Gonzaw, buddy, shall we dance? There are 9 hours left in the night phase I think. You and I could catch entire scum team in that time. I'll get home in 1 hour and something. Will read filters and shit there more carefully, and we can dance yes. I prefer salsa and merengue myself. Or are you a waltz type of person? That's coo' too. | ||
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gonzaw
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gonzaw
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Could get interesting info about the players involved in that. Someone else analyze it please? I'm lazy. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Gonzaw: Sandro's filter isn't a waste. He defends foolish and Kita in interesting ways I'm not sure they are scum based on that but it is interesting. I still like WoS and VE for scum over fool and Kita though. Ordering of my lynch candidates from scum to less scummy VE WoS Toad/Kita Fool | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
If I was your leading lynch candidate up until page 30, and the only thing I've really done since then is push a lynch on yourself, rather than swapping to the flipped scum player sandroba, what makes me drop from number one on your list to four? | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On January 24 2014 01:02 kitaman27 wrote: I'm starting to look back now, but one question you can answer while I do so prom: If I was your leading lynch candidate up until page 30, and the only thing I've really done since then is push a lynch on yourself, rather than swapping to the flipped scum player sandroba, what makes me drop from number one on your list to four? Other people did scummier things. VE and WoS jumped up the list due to their behaviour around a scum lynch. I also know them better which gives me more insight into their play while i know you can do shit that seems scummy as town. The fact that the main reasoning for my change isn't obvious to you is pretty worrying though. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 22 2014 13:00 kitaman27 wrote: There is one thing that I disagree with in Foolishness's assessment. He states that sandroba has had a strong appearance and has brought things to the thread. I don't see it so far. When he rejoined the thread, his re-enterence was extremely vanilla. He asked Foolishness about his WoS, which had already been beaten to death and he gave a softball to marv. His statement about Prom wasn't really anything new that he brought to the thread. I'm always hesitant to go after sandroba because I know a lot of the time he goes long periods of time without contributing much and then bursts into the thread with a great case. However, there is a distinct lack of aggressiveness in his posts and after 30 hours into the game, if he can't be bothered to play, that's on him, not me. -snip- @Foolishness, was there anything in particular that made you eliminate sandroba from lynch consideration? ##Unvote ##Sandroba That's actually a not-bad case against sandroba as it goes for that time of the day. On January 22 2014 23:18 kitaman27 wrote: My vote is on sandroba. I suppose you could call it policy. I'd much rather lynch him now, over an individual who is playing if he isn't going to contribute. I also expect more than one big post if he does return. I hadn't looked into Prom/Holy/yourself since your names are coming up the most often. I will certainly change my vote from sandroba if I find someone that I'm confident about. Possibly even slightly less than confident. I really wish people would vote sooner though, even if they need to change their mind. This seems like it is going towards the path where everyone shows up with their vote an hour or two before the lynch. But it's policy? Don't really think saying that is scummy in particular, but it does devalue his case a little. Also indicates willingness to change his vote off sand. On January 23 2014 07:07 kitaman27 wrote: Rather than getting replaced, I believe sandroba prefers this approach: Sandroba: whoa 3 minutes from the lynch already? Sorry guys, I've been much more busy partying than I intended. I'll be sure to catch up tomorrow, I swear. Sandroba Day 2: LOL NOPE. Pretty sarcastic post but it suggests the mindset of kita thinking sandroba is mafia I guess. On January 23 2014 07:51 kitaman27 wrote: I'm happy where I am, so you should join me.[Prome rather than sandro - marv] Asking austin to join him on Prome rather than sandro. Possible mafia motivation, but meh, can easily be town wanting to lynch Prome really. Actually I don't care so much about all those posts so much. Mostly put it there so sand-kita stuff is together. It's the bit right near the deadline that makes me feel icky On January 23 2014 07:59 kitaman27 wrote: So prom, you're given the deciding vote and contradict yourself from minutes earlier? I really don't like this. It's pretty obvious Prome was just joining in the shenannies, and he'd indicated he was fine with a sand lynch previously. So what's the problem? Did kita really find sand's posts when he came back convincing, incl. the one on Prome, to stay on Prome and then chastise Prome like this? Suspicious. And a muted post-lynch reaction too. I hate how kita approached the lynch + deadline stuff in general, but it's kinda mitigated by the fact that flicking through his filter, there seems to be a genuine crapload of effort in there, just looking at players in depth. Don't think I'd lynch kita over VE atm. Need more Wave/Toad especially also. | ||
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