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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:10 VisceraEyes wrote: I could MAYBE vote for HolyFlare. I'm teetering on the cusp of voting for Foolishness. Have you reevaluated your read on Prom due to his latest posts? If so, do you think you were mistaken about your initial read or are the alternatives a better option at this point. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:43 kitaman27 wrote: Could you expand on this, even if it's brief? I didn't pick up on the obvious reason. Mine read was more based on the lack of anything wrong, rather than an abundance of anything he has done that is helpful. Also, could you justify your Holyflare vote for me with specifics? You mention that you thought gonzaw's points were good. Is that what you're going by or is the vote mostly due to his absence from the thread? I currently don't have a strong preference between sandroba and Holyflare and it seems like sandroba hasn't been inspired to rejoin the thread. I'll vote with you for the time being. ##Unvote ##Vote Holyflare Wave is waffling earnestly at length as I'd expect him to. Although he's only got one scumgame, I'd very much expect him to be more direct than he has been if mafia. I've been suspicious of him in two reasonably recent games for being slow and waffly (##, LXIV) and now it just seems it's how he opens day 1 as town. So maybe not obvious after all. I just think his thought process is transparent. Like he's posted a lot of his thought process, where's his agenda? Mainly with Holy that he seems angrier than was justified. But most of all it's the constant niggling at Hapa, especially with his last post(s) when Hapa was by a large margin the towniest guy in the thread. It's just not natural at all. Tbh I don't make a massive amount of his absence, I believe he'd be here posting as either alignment, so not that alignment indicative. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:51 marvellosity wrote: I'd very much like to hear from VE as well re: Prome Do you think Prom made a valid case against myself? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:42 marvellosity wrote: Optimal townplay is simply lynching mafia, don't overthink that shiz how much is "slightly less"? actually slightly less? no sarcastic response, you earned such a question :p Well, the more you guys give Foo town reads, tell me he's a bad lynch, or basically stalk me for going against him (looking at you Holy), the less sure I get  @kita: You have the strange habit of "sheeping" reads and votes, without actually addressing the reasons you are sheeping them? marv agrees with my post, I mentioned a reason for Holy being scum. You sheep marv...but you don't care about that post I made, which is basically what made marv vote Holy just now? Something similar happened with your vote on Foolishness. marv voted Foo because he made a horrible unexplained vote and entrance. Then you sheep marv as well, but ignore that fact, and spout some other stuff about activity What gives? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:54 gonzaw wrote: @kita: You have the strange habit of "sheeping" reads and votes, without actually addressing the reasons you are sheeping them? marv agrees with my post, I mentioned a reason for Holy being scum. You sheep marv...but you don't care about that post I made, which is basically what made marv vote Holy just now? Was there something about my earlier Holyfire post that you were not satisfied with? I don't find that I am sheeping marv. I have commented more about Holy than he had. On January 23 2014 02:54 gonzaw wrote: Something similar happened with your vote on Foolishness. marv voted Foo because he made a horrible unexplained vote and entrance. Then you sheep marv as well, but ignore that fact, and spout some other stuff about activity What gives? I'm more than willing to move my vote around throughout the day. I find that it generates more discussion this way. The final vote is the only one that counts so why not? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
The thing about Prome is that there's no POP to his posts - when he's town, when he thinks he's found something suspicious something clicks and his confidence shoots up and you can see it in his posts. I didn't get that feeling when he was posting about you. But again, I'm not sure how much of it is my own bias speaking. Foolishness/Sandroba/HolyFlare are three targets who are, in my opinion, well equipped to prove their worth D1 if they're town. That none of them has been able to do this is troubling to me. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:55 marvellosity wrote: yuh huh. you've been giving me the jeebies all game. but you're too active to lynch today in the end. Too active as in you don't think you could pull it off or too active as in you don't want to kill me off right now? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
##Vote: HolyFlare Come make me move it bro. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Is the plan really to just afk and hope people don't notice? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Mainly austin coming back with hopefully a wall of text pinning the whole scumteam, or Foolishness actually making another post (of anything. He can post a cat gif and I'll be happy), or Holy actually trying to make a contribution and not just angrily defend himself. Surely something will happen that will make this D1 lynch apparent, hopefully. Waiting for sandro too. He has to vote or get modkilled, so he has to do something. Also to see who VE will vote out of Holy and Foo. IM WATCHING YOU VE!!! | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:59 kitaman27 wrote: Too active as in you don't think you could pull it off or too active as in you don't want to kill me off right now? Too active in that it doesn't make sense to kill off someone as active as you right now, there are either 2 or 3 mafia other than you, and there's a few townies looking townie, so the pool remaining of less active players should be a reasonably high percentage play. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:57 kitaman27 wrote: Was there something about my earlier Holyfire post that you were not satisfied with? I don't find that I am sheeping marv. I have commented more about Holy than he had. Not really...but you didn't vote him then did you? I'm more than willing to move my vote around throughout the day. I find that it generates more discussion this way. The final vote is the only one that counts so why not? I just find it weird that the action of you voting is like this automatic sheeping action when marv votes someone. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 23 2014 03:02 gonzaw wrote: I just find it weird that the action of you voting is like this automatic sheeping action when marv votes someone. Does 2/4 times make a trend? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote: I don't know if Holy's absence makes me feel better or worse about my vote. Like he said he was phone posting and he'd give reads in the morning. Is the plan really to just afk and hope people don't notice? Seems to be Foo's and sandro's plan as well. I don't really care about the afk stuff about Holy. But kita or Prome or someone did say something interesting, is that with the time he HAD, he did nothing. He just angrily accused me and Hapa from being evil manipulators and shit and heavily defending himself and trying to rationalize every thing he has done, but that's it | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Ehmm...yeah | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 23 2014 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: HolyFlare Come make me move it bro. So, sheeping town sentiment here, or did my previous post instantly illuminate your mind to convince you Holy is a better lynch than the guy you said was a better lynch? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Either way, I apologise for my lack of playing this game. I fully expected to be able to contribute time but my circumstances changed on the day the game started and so each and every single one of my posts has been posted from my phone, I was just picking up on points that I thought were contradictary and the such, no "aggression" is intended it's just how I post (Hogwarts I got called out for being aggressive as scum so there is no way I would ever try and look like that in a game again as scum). Either way, my initial read was on gonzaw being scummy because of his time allocation, that subsequently changed based on his responses and although I mention the repeated bastardisation and misconstruing of my posts that increasingly (as he kept doing it and still is) looks more and more like a tunneled towny and so I used my time to defend myself from him so as to divulge my thought processes and vindicate myself to the person that I think is towny (from the people that I have focused on). I thought hapa was looking scummy because of his contradictions but his response to me made me back off of that. I can't delve into quotes and things like I normally would but please please look at when gonzaw posted that "case" (that I said was heavily misconstrued) on me. The responses that meekly followed that said "yeh, that's true" and "hmmm yeh I can see that" should be heavily scrutinised as they were, like was just said, not backed up by votes. Like I said at the start, you shouldn't let people who get better later "sandroba AND foolishness (although he has posted now)" sit back, they should be entirely pressured. Sandroba even went so far as to get a good ++ (I think?) from foolishness??? despite his less than 1 page filter with nothing contributary in. Either way, I've asked to be subbed out so have fun. | ||
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