I think you're more warranted on Holy than you are on VE, gonzaw. You're right that Holy did seem unnecessarily angry/fierce in that post you pointed out, and that is scummy

VE I'm much more inclined to agree with Foolish on. I don't really see anything in his play that I find particularly scummy. He's pretty impetuous and involved

gonzaw do you think kita's questioning of you is warranted? No-one seems at all interested and if you aren't then I'm gonna have to rethink this :/

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

January 21 2014 22:47 GMT

#462

Edit
Do you think my suspicions are founded, or that I'm being blinded by my "Foolishness" bias?
Actually that question can go for anyone.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

January 21 2014 22:48 GMT

#463

On January 22 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote:
What I actually find suspicious of kita in light of recent posts is how he's attacking gonzaw. gonzaw has been looking pretty town to me lately, he's eager, lots of big posts, he's commenting on a lot of players, he's suspicious of a lot of players with decent grounds, and yet kita is nitpicking at him for his vote on Foolish compared to kita's. That's unnatural and it's not how I'm viewing the game and it doesn't feel right at all.

From the start of the game to the point where he votes Foolishness and I comment on him, this is what he has commented on regarding other players:

"Why the hell does WOS post "Welp" so many times? :/"

"Like, I'm reading WOS posts and they seem kind of fine; except some pointless questions" (Originally posted by me)

A valid post questioning Holy's defense of Foolishness.

Now you say that you are suspicious of me for my attack on gonzaw due to the fact that "he's suspicious of a lot of players with decent grounds"

Am I missing something or are you not reading the thread marv? gonzaw did make a big post on Holy that I have yet to read, but my attack post occurred at an earlier time. How can your suspicions against me be valid if you've got your timeline mixed up?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 21 2014 22:50 GMT

#464

On January 22 2014 07:45 Hapahauli wrote:

Show nested quote +

Would this suggest that you agree with Fool's reads, or do you just think his post is a town-tell?

Do you think he's capable of faking those kinds of posts as scum?

I think his post looks reasonable townie and there's a lot of effort. I'm not sure how much i agree with his reads atm
kita lower, prome higher, marv much much higher, WoS ??, gonzaw higher
But his reasoning feels townie - putting me where I am because I'm forgettable, while ego crushing I like it as an angle to take, it's non-routine

i think he's capable of these posts as mafia, especially after the champions game, and the way he made a list at the end was actually eerily similar to how he made lists at the end of those posts :p but overall the meat of it made sense. and he's trying

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

January 21 2014 22:52 GMT

#465

On January 22 2014 07:46 marvellosity wrote:
I think you're more warranted on Holy than you are on VE, gonzaw. You're right that Holy did seem unnecessarily angry/fierce in that post you pointed out, and that is scummy

VE I'm much more inclined to agree with Foolish on. I don't really see anything in his play that I find particularly scummy. He's pretty impetuous and involved

gonzaw do you think kita's questioning of you is warranted? No-one seems at all interested and if you aren't then I'm gonna have to rethink this :/

I initially found it weird.
Although, I was kind of okay with this response of his:

On January 22 2014 03:10 kitaman27 wrote:

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I guess it has to do with the fact that the meta analysis was applied to a player with three posts, which I wouldn't be very confident in based on the sample size. If you come to the conclusion that a town Foolishness will eventually attempt to have a helpful attitude and start to scumhunt, yet you think a vote on him until the point where he does so is lame, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish. If you prefer a wait and see attitude, then why not save your meta post until he has something to go by and then come to a conclusion then?

His "questioning" of me, seemed mostly based on the fact that I made that huge post out of the blue with "seemingly" no purpose at all. Don't really remember him calling me scummy or something.
I kind of ignored his later jabs/responses at me though.
I tend to think I can recognize scum wanting to get on my ass to lynch me and stuff and I didn't get that feeling with kita. I did get a tiny bit of that feeling with Holy for instance.
Dunno, I guess I have other stuff to focus on.

Well, okay, if VE isn't particularly scummy then I'll ask him to answer:
VE, so what happened to your Foo' read bro?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 21 2014 22:53 GMT

#466

On January 22 2014 07:48 kitaman27 wrote:

Show nested quote +

It means I'm in your filter, if the timing is off then I'll check, I thought he'd posted other substantive thoughts about VE and musings on WoS etc by then

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 21 2014 22:55 GMT

#467

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=22#439

came after

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=22#435

and other posts where gonzaw talked about VE in quite some detail and also touched on Holy and WoS. In short gonzaw was not only tunnelling fool but spreading his tentacles about with quite a bit of thought

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 21 2014 22:55 GMT

#468

the point being the more gonzaw posts the better he looks to me, but you keep on him (i don't care about the earlier attacks so much, even though they are a little weird to me, but not weird in a scummy way)

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 21 2014 22:57 GMT

#469

although apparently i'm the only one who has a hardon for gonzaw right now :/

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

January 21 2014 23:00 GMT

#470

I thought my previous sexy posts already made me town by then kita

Hmm, okay, I think we might get a little bit off track with all the discussions, questions, and shit going on.
Personally, I want these:

1)Foolishness to do something more (I'm not very much convinced by his post. I read the Champion's Game as well marv). Notice how there's a lack of defense for his "horrible" posts.
2)Get some consensus on Holy based on what I posted
3)I guess some real talk about who to lynch this D1, not just fleeting questions and suspicions.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

January 21 2014 23:00 GMT

#471

On January 22 2014 07:55 marvellosity wrote:
gonzaw was ~~not only tunnelling fool but~~ spreading his tentacles about ~~with quite a bit of thought~~

On January 22 2014 07:57 marvellosity wrote:
~~although apparently~~ i'm the only one who has a hardon for gonzaw right now :/

snicker

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 21 2014 23:01 GMT

#472

austin.

...

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

January 21 2014 23:03 GMT

#473

On January 22 2014 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
austin.

...

Let your freak flag fly, sir. If tentacles are your thing, so be it.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 21 2014 23:03 GMT

#474

I have many kinks, tentacles aint one :p

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

January 21 2014 23:05 GMT

#475

On January 22 2014 07:55 marvellosity wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=22#439

came after

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=22#435

and other posts where gonzaw talked about VE in quite some detail and also touched on Holy and WoS. In short gonzaw was not only tunnelling fool but spreading his tentacles about with quite a bit of thought

Oh you'd like that wouldn't you?