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On December 30 2013 06:26 Hopeless1der wrote:I didn't actually state my read of Cora: I'd call him a spy at the moment. Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 08:38 Corazon wrote:
After looking at Hopeless again, I really do like his posts. His contributions have been very excellent and I don't mind his nomination at all.
I'm also okay with Rayn and Adam as nominations. I want to hear some more questioning and activity from everyone b/c the only scum/spy read I have right now is Koshi. This felt way too easy of a +1 without any critical thought behind it. I didn't like this post. Combined with associative I think Koshi is town -> Therefore Cora scum.
And then you make this terrible post.. Ugh..
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Hopeless, me switching teams up was SPECIFICALLY FOR the reason you pointed out - not much scrutiny has been put on the players I mentioned, it got people to look into them and say whether or not they agree with me or not, in a way that is accountable, by voting yes or no to my team. I wasn't aiming for it to fail, I'm aiming for people to read the players I've proposed, form an opinion and make their opinions known through votes. Can you explain what's sketch about that? Why would I just propose people from the team that just failed? Does that not seem more like something I would do if I were looking for a failing team?
Just...remove the fact that I removed you from the team and look at the big picture. It's not that I don't think you're town, it's that I think these /other/ dudes are town and I want people to go on the record and say whether they agree with me or not.
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That sounds like a reasonable explanation VE.
So you think me, Hopeless, Cora and Sent are town right?
What abbout the rest of the people, who are scum and who would you say is the last townie?
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I get bad vibes off Koshi for reasons I pointed out - I'm still trying to get a handle on Grack, he kinda feels like he's overplaying the whole "paranoid-townie" bit with his repeated "Guys how can you be so sure, what if we're wrong, etc etc" but to be honest it came at a time when three people had instaYay-d the first team....keeping an eye on Grack.
Rounding out my scum list assuming Grack and Koshi are scum would be Chairman Ray. He's got a lot of big posts but nothing saying who he thinks is suspicious or why - just a lot of going on about the setup and that kind of stuff.
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I may or may not have played this out wrong.
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Hopeless, you think Koshi has town, yet you overlook the fact that he has barely contributed to the discussion and has only attacked people for superficial reasons.
Your scum read on me is based on the fact that you think Koshi is town, so your logic is faulty.
Don't say I've only been +1ing people when I've been contributing a lot more to the thread than you.
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My analysis of that line is that I should have added more spaces. 1 more try
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The empty space is quite symbolic there.
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On December 30 2013 06:54 Corazon wrote:
Hopeless, you think Koshi has town, yet you overlook the fact that he has barely contributed to the discussion and has only attacked people for superficial reasons.
Your scum read on me is based on the fact that you think Koshi is town, so your logic is faulty.
Don't say I've only been +1ing people when I've been contributing a lot more to the thread than you.
The OMGUS is strong with this one. I didn't overlook shit with koshi. I have him as town despite his poor reasoning and his superficial attack on me.
My scum read on you is not solely based on koshi association.
I never said you're only +1ing. I said the +1 to me being town was scummy. Get wrecked.
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VE you never brought up any reservations on me or rayn regarding why Adams team failed. Nor did you try to gauge reactions to your team before it was LOCKED in for your turn as leader. Very passive play bordering on foolish. Adam nayed himself to allow us more room for discussion. You just narrowed that discussion to your team for no reason almost immediately. That's not cool at all, I think its scummy.
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On December 30 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Adam4167 - I really do not like the fact Adam down-voted his own team, which in his opinion should be all town as he picked it. I would like him to fully explain the thoguht process behind doing so. To me it makes no sense he first says "ofc ima vote yay", then argues that the team is all town when it meets resistance and proceeds on down-voting it.
Here is why I down-voted my own team:
I place a huge emphasis on winning this first day as its almost an automatic win. We're running on a 3,4,4,5(2),5 setup day structure. We win the first day, then all we have to do is take that winning team and add one more townie to it, and then send that team on day 2 and again on day 3. So it is simple. We win day 1, find a single townie not on the that team, and the game is over.
If I can recognize this, then I assume many others can as well, including the scum team. They literally cannot afford to just throw the first day and let 3 townies go on the mission. So when I have giant questionmarks over people such as Koshi Chairman Ray, and they come out and yay vote my team through with shaky or non-existent reasoning, that makes me very suspicious that I've made a mistake somewhere.
I want to take the extra cycles to solidify my reads and make I make the right call.
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On December 30 2013 08:18 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2013 06:54 Corazon wrote:
Hopeless, you think Koshi has town, yet you overlook the fact that he has barely contributed to the discussion and has only attacked people for superficial reasons.
Your scum read on me is based on the fact that you think Koshi is town, so your logic is faulty.
Don't say I've only been +1ing people when I've been contributing a lot more to the thread than you. The OMGUS is strong with this one. I didn't overlook shit with koshi. I have him as town despite his poor reasoning and his superficial attack on me. My scum read on you is not solely based on koshi association. I never said you're only +1ing. I said the +1 to me being town was scummy. Get wrecked. [Hr] VE you never brought up any reservations on me or rayn regarding why Adams team failed. Nor did you try to gauge reactions to your team before it was LOCKED in for your turn as leader. Very passive play bordering on foolish. Adam nayed himself to allow us more room for discussion. You just narrowed that discussion to your team for no reason almost immediately. That's not cool at all, I think its scummy.
So you're looking at Koshi's lack of productiveness and see it as town, and then you overlook my filter and only call me scum for one post? You're not looking at the big picture here.
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You also call me scummy for simply agreeing with people on my feelings about you, yet you overlook the three people who immediately sheeped yay votes onto Adam's team with minimal explanation. At least I waited for discussion before voting, just like I have for this team.
The fact that you are only going after me and overlooking others is really scummy. Your lack of parity between attacking myself and attacking others gives me a good feeling that you are scum and you are trying to derail this proposed team.
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Day 1: Phase 2
Team 2
Current Leader: VisceraEyes
Deadline to Vote on the Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00)
Countdown:
Proposed Team: VisceraEyes, [UoN]Sentinel, Corazon
Current Vote Count:
Koshi: Nay
Hopeless1der: Nay
Corazon: Yay
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VE, you seem to have given your thoughts on everyone else in this game one way or another, yet for me its 'null' early on D1 with a downvote, and apparently I'm not in your theorized scum team.
Basically, what I want to know is, what is your current read on me? What are your thoughts on me passing my own team? If your scum team is correct, then why did both Koshi and Chairman Ray vote yay yesterday?
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On December 30 2013 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:Day 1: Phase 2Team 2Current Leader: VisceraEyesDeadline to Vote on the Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00)Countdown: Proposed Team: VisceraEyes, [UoN]Sentinel, Corazon Current Vote Count:Koshi: NayHopeless1der: NayCorazon: Yay
On December 29 2013 11:38 FirmTofu wrote:Day 1: Phase 1 Team 2Current Leader: VisceraEyesDeadline to Propose a Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00)Countdown: Proposed Team: TBD Current Vote Count:TBD
Wait do we have 2 hours or 26?
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On December 30 2013 10:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2013 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:Day 1: Phase 2Team 2Current Leader: VisceraEyesDeadline to Vote on the Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00)Countdown: Proposed Team: VisceraEyes, [UoN]Sentinel, Corazon Current Vote Count:Koshi: NayHopeless1der: NayCorazon: Yay Show nested quote +On December 29 2013 11:38 FirmTofu wrote:Day 1: Phase 1 Team 2Current Leader: VisceraEyesDeadline to Propose a Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00)Countdown: Proposed Team: TBD Current Vote Count:TBD Wait do we have 2 hours or 26?
Twenty-Six. My post is now simply a cut-paste from FirmTofu. Also, that first countdown is a deadline for VE to submit a team. This is for you all to vote.
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Ooooh ok.
Well, guys, I'll be here for the voting deadline, but I won't be around for the majority of the nightphase. I'm leaving on vacation in two days, and I'll be phoneposting for the entirety of Day 2 and the first bit of Day 3. I'll have a lot of time on my hands in the evenings and I'll still be able to keep track of this game since there's only nine of us, but just as a forewarning.
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On December 30 2013 10:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2013 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:Day 1: Phase 2Team 2Current Leader: VisceraEyesDeadline to Vote on the Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00)Countdown: Proposed Team: VisceraEyes, [UoN]Sentinel, Corazon Current Vote Count:Koshi: NayHopeless1der: NayCorazon: Yay Show nested quote +On December 29 2013 11:38 FirmTofu wrote:Day 1: Phase 1 Team 2Current Leader: VisceraEyesDeadline to Propose a Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00)Countdown: Proposed Team: TBD Current Vote Count:TBD Wait do we have 2 hours or 26?
I round up. If any phase ends early, I give you guys the time remaining on that countdown plus 24 hours. That second post you quoted is for the record. If you want to know which countdown is relevant for you right now, go to the third post of the OP. I'll keep that updated.
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On December 30 2013 08:18 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2013 06:54 Corazon wrote:
Hopeless, you think Koshi has town, yet you overlook the fact that he has barely contributed to the discussion and has only attacked people for superficial reasons.
Your scum read on me is based on the fact that you think Koshi is town, so your logic is faulty.
Don't say I've only been +1ing people when I've been contributing a lot more to the thread than you. The OMGUS is strong with this one. I didn't overlook shit with koshi. I have him as town despite his poor reasoning and his superficial attack on me. My scum read on you is not solely based on koshi association. I never said you're only +1ing. I said the +1 to me being town was scummy. Get wrecked. [Hr] VE you never brought up any reservations on me or rayn regarding why Adams team failed. Nor did you try to gauge reactions to your team before it was LOCKED in for your turn as leader. Very passive play bordering on foolish. Adam nayed himself to allow us more room for discussion. You just narrowed that discussion to your team for no reason almost immediately. That's not cool at all, I think its scummy.
Adam only Nay'd himself because it was upon the deadline and he was one of the last to actually vote. I'm confident in my team because I have decent reads on both Cora and Sentinel and so I Yay'd it. Feel free to not vote and discuss to at your leisure, I don't see how me voting has inhibited anything.
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