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On June 21 2022 14:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2022 10:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Guess I meant the community, not the moderators. The hosts were really stellar to me, but then that's the thing, they were very nice and supportive but AFAIK nothing happened to the people who cut off their own chances at winning to "make me submit"... and called me a non team player for having ideas and wanting to make a play out of my mistakes rather than simply making myself intentionally scummy to be a scapegoat. Dude wanted to shoot me that night, wasn't even allowed but I asked for a modkill/replace after that shit went unchecked.
I've had quite similar experiences in all of the sites i have ever played in besides TL. Final game i played on one site the host decided to replace i dude had just nightkilled back into another slot that subbed out. Everyone thought it was fair and square and i was a baddie when i complained about it. In mafiascum i was the worst player ever when i voted for mafia 717 / 720 hours of a month long mafia game (literally, that's actually no kidding!!). I didn't even bother about the post game chat i just left the site immediately after that. In the championship game last year there was a dude who did something really scummy and when i called him mafia he flipped his shit on me and replaced out. Unfortunately that made me waste like three weeks in a game that was unwinnable because dick move analysis says that guy cannot be mafia. Post game i complained about unsoprtmanship behavior and got told the dude had very serious time problems and couldn't continue playing. He still was able to post RIGHT after replacing in obs chat and continued doing so until the end of the game, more than he did in the real game. I didn't bother to argue more because if i have learned something in mafia it is that if stupid people have already decided you are the bad guy there is no evidence that can convince them otherwise and you're just wasting your time. I mean, just playing for fun is one thing and i don't expect anyone or everyone to be as competitive as for example i am, but you shouldn't still try to ruin the game for the people who are actually trying to win the game their hardest, which is kind of the point of ANY game where there is a winning and losing team lol. Or if someone does that, to side with them if they are more likeable or whatever shit than the person who is actually right and trying to play the game properly. That's pretty much why this Saturday it comes one year since i have been in a mafia game, the longest break i have since i started in 2009. I think the break will continue eternally. I really love the game but when almost all the games are bullshit like that, well... i have better things to do than waste my time in that shit. Thankfully though i've got many friends and other good things from my journey in mafia.  P.S. Slam, We'll be in LA in December very most likely. I'll let you know when i know our times so we can cook up something possibly maybe ^^
I look forward to this
I will prepare my wife! Her paranoia is chilling out...
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On June 12 2022 20:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2022 10:18 Alakaslam wrote:Guess I meant the community, not the moderators. The hosts were really stellar to me, but then that's the thing, they were very nice and supportive but AFAIK nothing happened to the people who cut off their own chances at winning to "make me submit"... and called me a non team player for having ideas and wanting to make a play out of my mistakes rather than simply making myself intentionally scummy to be a scapegoat. Dude wanted to shoot me that night, wasn't even allowed but I asked for a modkill/replace after that shit went unchecked. The fact that they will still let Robik come back after 6 months tells me assholes are allowed to remain there, in other words. And one more caveat, to EVERYTHING I say, to anyone who would be swayed anywhere by my words: I watch anime. First time seeing Attack on Titan, I immediately resonated with Sasha Braus. And was vocal about it. Watching Nichijou (finally) quite recently, I realized Aioi Yukko was doing things I had... literally... done... myself. (Not many but come on, that show is so wacky that to have literally done anything before should say it all) Know what those two characters are famous for? Being Baka To the one who has seen Nichijou and cries "bullshit!" I present Exhibit A, with the explanation! + Show Spoiler +So I was a fan of the rescuers down under. (Why is that relevant? ) I also regretted it. In VERY similar fashion. Also had the upstairs room (for a while). And more and more. Here, take Exhibit A.1! A community is the sum of its parts, rather than the individual pieces. Sure, you had a bad experience one time in a huge game, but that doesn't tarnish the community as a whole, nor should it. Also, you don't know how Robik behaved on that forum either. We know what he was like here and we banned him, but that doesn't mean he behaved the same way in another corner of the internet or to the same severity that would warrant a perma ban. From everything I've seen from the championship, to the handful of games I've played in there (or been invited to), everyone has been very friendly and welcoming. If you have Discord, I would recommend joining in with the championship spectator channel at some point (maybe next year) and you'll get more of a feel for the community and how they treat each other. I don't think anywhere is without its problems, but by and large most of the people I've experienced there are friendly and play well and the games have all been fun.
Fwiw the site looks great rn
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Thanks, HF. I am a slow adopter and am difficult to convince to forgive. But you've done it. These are good people.
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On June 21 2022 14:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2022 10:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Guess I meant the community, not the moderators. The hosts were really stellar to me, but then that's the thing, they were very nice and supportive but AFAIK nothing happened to the people who cut off their own chances at winning to "make me submit"... and called me a non team player for having ideas and wanting to make a play out of my mistakes rather than simply making myself intentionally scummy to be a scapegoat. Dude wanted to shoot me that night, wasn't even allowed but I asked for a modkill/replace after that shit went unchecked.
I've had quite similar experiences in all of the sites i have ever played in besides TL. Final game i played on one site the host decided to replace i dude had just nightkilled back into another slot that subbed out. Everyone thought it was fair and square and i was a baddie when i complained about it. In mafiascum i was the worst player ever when i voted for mafia 717 / 720 hours of a month long mafia game (literally, that's actually no kidding!!). I didn't even bother about the post game chat i just left the site immediately after that. In the championship game last year there was a dude who did something really scummy and when i called him mafia he flipped his shit on me and replaced out. Unfortunately that made me waste like three weeks in a game that was unwinnable because dick move analysis says that guy cannot be mafia. Post game i complained about unsoprtmanship behavior and got told the dude had very serious time problems and couldn't continue playing. He still was able to post RIGHT after replacing in obs chat and continued doing so until the end of the game, more than he did in the real game. I didn't bother to argue more because if i have learned something in mafia it is that if stupid people have already decided you are the bad guy there is no evidence that can convince them otherwise and you're just wasting your time. I mean, just playing for fun is one thing and i don't expect anyone or everyone to be as competitive as for example i am, but you shouldn't still try to ruin the game for the people who are actually trying to win the game their hardest, which is kind of the point of ANY game where there is a winning and losing team lol. Or if someone does that, to side with them if they are more likeable or whatever shit than the person who is actually right and trying to play the game properly. That's pretty much why this Saturday it comes one year since i have been in a mafia game, the longest break i have since i started in 2009. I think the break will continue eternally. I really love the game but when almost all the games are bullshit like that, well... i have better things to do than waste my time in that shit. Thankfully though i've got many friends and other good things from my journey in mafia. P.S. Slam, We'll be in LA in December very most likely. I'll let you know when i know our times so we can cook up something possibly maybe ^^
You should play again honestly. At least give the new website a shot.
I know you can't stand it when everyone doesn't give 100% and you do as that's often also true of me, but you'd be surprised what coming back after a break can do.
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And I want to know what drink Hapa sent you after our scumgame.
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+ Show Spoiler +So, years ago I argued with some Greenpeace bully mods here about this. They assumed I was a science denier because I knew about this guy with regard to climate change, and knew all the bullshit normies fall for is not the actual solution, and that the government is co-opting climate change into their own nefarious agendas. Finally, the dude made a YouTube short. I consider this short. It is less than 30 minutes. Call me a boomer. I also know of and believe in what he apparently doesn't; that the effect takes off exponentially with scale (not linearly as he seems to think) and can whip the atmosphere into such o2 highs relative to co2 and N that flammability starts to become an issue and mutation goes nuts, and lifespans shorten but health improves, all sorts of crazy shit our world isn't ready to deal with. But this is how you know that the doomsday shit is all bullshit. We would do this shit first and it WILL work, that isn't the question. The question is whether it working is actually better than what we have now or not.
I spoilered it. BH has a point. At the same time, I don't want to get permanently banned for daring to say something even moderately conservative in this day and age where my old communist friends now claim to agree with me politically because those on the left have gone so far. But I feel like people here (mafia forum) can actually appreciate debate, and rare perspectives on actually trying to solve real problems. (Note my lack of hard line conservatism in acknowledging global warming/climate change, yet, here I am considered ban-worthily right wing)
+ Show Spoiler +So many other things. I am generally tolerant but disagree on gun issues- banned several times for that. Otherwise I wouldn't put this shit here.
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Blazinghand
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I like to stop by on this thread and see how people are doing from time to time, often reading the messages here and seeing what's going on in people's lives. It's nice to see people around. I really do not like to stop by this thread and see posting about politics. Come on, man.
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I'm gonna nope my previous suggestion rayn, I think if you learned to play on TL, you better stay on TL since we have a similar approach that can be very alienating.
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On June 24 2022 19:08 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna nope my previous suggestion rayn, I think if you learned to play on TL, you better stay on TL since we have a similar approach that can be very alienating.
Hijole vivax from what I see you are doing ok there m8
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On June 24 2022 11:06 Alakaslam wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So, years ago I argued with some Greenpeace bully mods here about this. They assumed I was a science denier because I knew about this guy with regard to climate change, and knew all the bullshit normies fall for is not the actual solution, and that the government is co-opting climate change into their own nefarious agendas. Finally, the dude made a YouTube short. https://youtu.be/i4Hnv_ZJSQYI consider this short. It is less than 30 minutes. Call me a boomer. I also know of and believe in what he apparently doesn't; that the effect takes off exponentially with scale (not linearly as he seems to think) and can whip the atmosphere into such o2 highs relative to co2 and N that flammability starts to become an issue and mutation goes nuts, and lifespans shorten but health improves, all sorts of crazy shit our world isn't ready to deal with. But this is how you know that the doomsday shit is all bullshit. We would do this shit first and it WILL work, that isn't the question. The question is whether it working is actually better than what we have now or not. I spoilered it. BH has a point. At the same time, I don't want to get permanently banned for daring to say something even moderately conservative in this day and age where my old communist friends now claim to agree with me politically because those on the left have gone so far. But I feel like people here (mafia forum) can actually appreciate debate, and rare perspectives on actually trying to solve real problems. (Note my lack of hard line conservatism in acknowledging global warming/climate change, yet, here I am considered ban-worthily right wing) + Show Spoiler +So many other things. I am generally tolerant but disagree on gun issues- banned several times for that. Otherwise I wouldn't put this shit here.
Don't worry I have more conservative views than you and have been on this forum for years. I often listen to opposing views. The only person to ever try and ban me was Blazinghand + Show Spoiler +I know it wasn't politically motivated, but this is TL Mafia - got to make a case!
TL has always had political discussions. How can we have a community without politics? How can you have psychological warfare in the game of mafia without the mention of people's ideologies? What is TL Mafia without the comrades? I miss Caller  .
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Anyone want to play video mafia?
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On June 26 2022 00:13 Chezinu wrote:
Anyone want to play video mafia?
I'm upgrading to poker, got a 40k pot live tourney to play next week.
But voice I'm always up for.
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Ahh vent mafia. When people thought the guns in trailer were props. I'm up for voice. Finishing up a walk/jog. About 5 more miles to go then might go swim a bit.
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Edit: God damn it, you're right and you just told me. Sorry, BH. I live in the wrong city. I never used to get so riled up about this shit.
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On June 26 2022 11:21 Alakaslam wrote:
HF you see that shit from Nanook?
I straight up tell him I am a republican, he quotes me saying that, and calls me a science denier for it. I S W E A R being a republican or Democrat or anything in between has no bearing on the quality of a person's character! Each side demonized the other when actually most people don't toe the entire party line of which they are a member.
But for some reason, I see little tolerance from such people as demand my (already largely present) toleration of them. Why do people I accept demand my acceptance as they yell "Shunn! Shunnnnnn!"?
There's a lot of young people in this forum and politics isn't within the scope of the mafia game, even if someone else mentioned it. Just ignore it.
Also don't talk about the ongoing game.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
I can just unsub from this thread if this is gonna be a politics thread now, I really am trying not to get into politics discussions any more
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On June 26 2022 15:06 Blazinghand wrote:
I can just unsub from this thread if this is gonna be a politics thread now, I really am trying not to get into politics discussions any more
That's why you still are unable to write about the British empire.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
I'll actually handle that next Sunday, just wait
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On June 26 2022 18:46 Blazinghand wrote:
I'll actually handle that next Sunday, just wait
I'll believe that right after my broken butt wins a marathon :3
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I'll post analysis and highlights of all my games offsite once I finish the last of the current binge. And I won't need to muzzle myself here.
Get popcorn ready in bulk. A wrecking ball is coming.
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