It's always interesting to hear that from Dota 2 players because in terms of difficulty HotS would be like a 2/10 compared to Dota at 10/10 in my opinion.

There are no items to worry about, leveling is pretty straight forward, most heroes have a similar play-style within their role, instead of last hitting and denying creeps you literally just need to stand next to the wave and do nothing, games are shorter, and the objectives are essentially a signal to teamfight.

What's the struggle?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

July 06 2017 21:27 GMT

#3712

fwiw Dota and HotS are both similarly "difficult" because, due to the ladder system, you'll be ranked in such a way you can only win half the time

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

July 06 2017 22:01 GMT

#3713

True, but in terms of hitting the 50th or 75th percentile in their respective ranking systems I'd find doing so in Dota to be much tougher. I'm not trying to look down upon either game (I prefer hots myself), but I think the time investment required for Dota is noticeably higher to "get good". Maybe beginner friendly is the better term.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

July 07 2017 05:34 GMT

#3714

I play hots because i never played any mobas before it came out and didnt care to spend countless hours to learn a game at least to some point.

+ i like the faster games.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

July 07 2017 07:26 GMT

#3715

On July 07 2017 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:
fwiw Dota and HotS are both similarly "difficult" because, due to the ladder system, you'll be ranked in such a way you can only win half the time

this is bad logic really bad so bad this sentence has no punctuation

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

July 07 2017 07:34 GMT

#3716

HotS is fun for the casual gamer. When I played DotA activily I couldn't stand HotS, it felt like playing 4 in a row when I am used to playing chess.

But now that I quit DotA I enjoy playing HotS quite a lot. Really fun game where you can still gain an edge based on how good you are at the game. But being good is more like "understanding" the very basics of Mobas and understand the map.

And there are plenty maps and heroes so if you can only play for like 3 hours each week you will find it challenging. You just have to come to terms that you need to focus only on like 4 things which 2 of have a very low skillcap instead of the way more things in DotA with an extremely high skill cap.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

July 07 2017 08:37 GMT

#3717

On July 07 2017 05:49 Half the Sky wrote:
I've been trying to play HotS on and off and each time it's been a bloody disaster.
+ Show Spoiler +

Especially Garden of Terror....fuck that map.

(If you don't believe me, just ask disformation.)

can confirm. :p

played dota 2 for a bit with a former roommate at some point, but by all means i have no real clue about the game. I think I have like 200 hours clocked in according to steam. dota 2 is imo one of the most complicated/high skill cap/hard to learn game ever. i mean i have 200 hours and can play like... lich and jakiro or something. badly. xD
though that also was like 2 years ago, so by now I am probably to rusty for anything.

played hots a bit at late beta/after release, but got bored of it after some time (think not enough heroes). came back some time after 2.0 just 2 days after the thing where you could get like 20 heroes for free ended, but i am enjoying it atm. Guess one of the big things for me is that the matches are way shorter.

imo the difficulties in the switch are that hots has some surface level similarities to dota 2, but does basically everything differently.

between there being no real laning phase/merc camps/objectives/soaking lane xp there is more movement on the map for everyone. team composition is different, positioning is different, hero roles are different (though those things are similar to LoL imo).
and ofc you have to learn a ton of different new heroes and map specific strategies etc.
finding heroes that are good and you enjoy takes a while, esp. since you need to unlock the fuckers (one thing i dont like in hots).

so while dota 2 knowledge may help with like mechanical skill, the rest of the game is a completely new one.

but yeah hots is way easier to learn overall.

Rels

France13467 Posts

July 07 2017 08:38 GMT

#3718

On July 07 2017 14:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I play hots because i never played any mobas before it came out and didnt care to spend countless hours to learn a game at least to some point.

+ i like the faster games.

come play battlerite with me
(and HF and even SL now ^^)

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

July 07 2017 08:38 GMT

#3719

I'm up for some Diablo 2, mobas are dumb.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

July 07 2017 09:15 GMT

#3720

lol well regardless of the debates, i play hots ^^ and i prefer it. so if anyone would like to play with me hit me up?

(not 100% my laptop could even handle dota...it's not as robust as the one it replaced)