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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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Last Edited: 2013-12-11 21:53:28
December 11 2013 21:42 GMT
#4
Encryption:
Must be done only in Text, cryptographically weak, and the base language must be english. Please limit yourself on encryption, you may be requested to hand over keys if it gets out of hand. It is better to approve your encryption algorithm beforehand with the hosts.


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You have officially piqued my interest.

Mafia KP is # of mafia/2 rounded down, with a minimum of 1KP. Mafia must send me the names of who they kill before the day ends. Failure of submission will result in a public notification that Mafia failed to submit their KP. Mafia may shoot themselves or choose not to shoot, however it requires and action submission.


Sexy.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 11 2013 21:59 GMT
#8
On December 12 2013 06:56 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 06:42 yamato77 wrote:
Mafia KP is # of mafia/2 rounded down, with a minimum of 1KP. Mafia must send me the names of who they kill before the day ends. Failure of submission will result in a public notification that Mafia failed to submit their KP. Mafia may shoot themselves or choose not to shoot, however it requires and action submission.


Sexy.

That was a typo unfortunately. Although interesting it would probably just make things more complicated

dammit
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#26
/in
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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December 30 2013 22:58 GMT
#68
JOIN BITCHES

THIS SETUP IS AWESOME
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 30 2013 23:09 GMT
#70
ONE BITCH DOWN

ELEVEN TO GO
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 30 2013 23:34 GMT
#72
It appears you are not on the banlist.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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January 02 2014 03:28 GMT
#92
I am fine with giving Dr H a chance to redeem himself.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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January 09 2014 19:27 GMT
#158
/confirm
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 10 2014 06:55 GMT
#213
I'd like to roll blue for a change.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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January 10 2014 06:58 GMT
#215
Oh, I assumed that was going to happen regardless.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 01:46 GMT
#344
On January 11 2014 09:11 marvellosity wrote:
Hi everyone I'm a little bit mashed

A pleasure to make your acquaintances

seconded
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 01:48 GMT
#346
Also, I'm the best candidate for mayor. I am actually going to try this game and stuff
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 07:46 GMT
#420
So far, this game has gone on relatively simply in thread, so there's not exactly much to talk about post-wise. But I do have a few things I want to address tonight.

On January 11 2014 12:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently Blazinghand is running not only his own campaing but also another one. Seems pretty weird for me.


BH's first campaign WAS terrible, much like his campaign in the last mayor game that Marv ran. The difference between that one and this one is that he's now given up his trollish campaign in favor of supporting the one person who bothered to call him out for his shitty campaign early on. That alone is enough to make this notable, but there's more to it than a simple behavior difference.

While my initial reaction is to wonder "Why would BH do this as town?", I think the most important question to answer is "Why would he do this as mafia?" As mafia, BH could certainly be angling to appear pro-town and contributory in the thread with his support of DrH. As a loud voice in the thread, DrH is easy enough to get behind and also someone BH would rather not cross, if he were mafia.

Now, this is not necessarily the case, but it does make me pay more attention to BH than I otherwise would. Most of you know I have an affinity for lynching him, but instead of simply calling for his head due to his uselessness as in games past, I am legitimately interested in figuring out his alignment this game. He's right when he says that he could be an asset, if he's town.

On January 11 2014 09:28 Captain Obvious wrote:
Vote me for Mayor and I shall use my magnificent powers of common sense to find and lynch mafia!


I mention this post simply because no one else did. Smurf + shitty one-liner campaign + low activity = kill with fire

On January 11 2014 09:36 gumshoe wrote:
Hey guys, make me mayor cause I'm bad. The fact of wether or not I'm scum will become extremely apparent within a few days going by the quality of my activity. On the other hand exceptional players like Marv or rayn can successfully abuse their power as king without getting caught and become fiercely run on threats. I am of the opinion that the most important attribute of the king be that he is town, wether or not he is good is an added bonus, and I'm certain all the skillful scum players will go to great lengths today to seem "townier" than they would normally. Besides, I shall be a fair king, on day 1 I will listen to everything everyone has to say and then lynch the most likely scum target. Going on I promise to be extra active given the importance of my double vote. So yeah, vote the king you can keep in check.


As far as my read on gumshoe, it is almost invariably tied to what I think of his campaign and his intentions behind it. This argument is relatively decent (I like the idea of electing a mayor I can trust is town, on its face), but it falls short in that we are placing a large amount of responsibility in the hands of a player whose judgement may not always be as good as some of the better town players (list goes here, make up your own).

What it tells me about gumshoe is that he's essentially opting out of discussing who he likes best as mayor, because so far, he's favored campaigning for himself over doing anything else. Instead of campaigning for himself, when he knows his chances of winning are slim to none, gumshoe as town SHOULD be actively participating in the election discussion instead of copping out. This goes for anyone who plays similarly and has a similarly bleak outlook of being elected; don't waste your time.

Again, this is by no means a definite read, but it's worth noting how gumshoe has set himself up to play this day 1. At this point, he could essentially drop his silly campaign at any time (not suspicious, no one thinks it's going to be successful) and vote for random player X who he thinks could be a good mayor without ever having said so before. This completely robs us of his thought process if he is town, and doesn't tell us anything new about the player he's voting for either (because it will likely be a player already with a certain amount of votes/reasons to vote them).

On January 11 2014 11:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I will be unavailable for almost all of day 1.

I didn't realize the game was starting so early and thus made plans tommorrow after work (work at 530 am eastern til early to mid afternoon then im heading out of town for the night). I might be able to post a few times via my phone but nothing reliable.

I apologize in advance for this.

As a note however, Until someone provides a real reason to be elected they shouldn't be considered.


BC made a show of shitting on the other candidates for mayor early on when he was mafia in the last mayor game, and he begins this game with a similar tone. It's legitimately ridiculous to just ignore the players who garner support early in the game because you don't think they have a "real reason to be elected." I will not let this game be ruined again by vet-circlejerk mentality that denied me a vest in the last game and ultimately cost town perhaps its most vocal leader.

As for people I consider candidates for mayor, it is ignorant to ignore DrH, who seems to have impressed people with his play so far. While there's nothing technically wrong with it, and it is still early on in the game, he hasn't really said anything I find substantive. While talking about how you'd use the mayor power is great and all, as I said in the last game, the most important quality in a mayor should be his ability to find mafia. I don't particularly find anything he's said difficult to come from a mafia perspective, so I hesitate jumping in with the rest of the crowd and wagoning him to the mayor position.

As promised, I will be running for mayor, and my platform is the same as it was the last game. Do you like my reads? Good, let's elect me, and lynch mafia together. I'm widely regarded as a player who has the ability to be obviously town when I am, and I intend to put in the effort necessary to remove all doubt as to my alignment. If I come across a player I think is better suited to the mayor position, I will say so, but I doubt I will be confident enough in my read of any of the players who could potentially be better than me in that position on Day 1, simply because they are capable of a certain amount of townish activity early on as mafia.

As of right now, I have two tentative reads on BH and gumshoe that could become more, and I intend to follow the game fairly closely and keep all of you updated on what I think about the happenings in the game. If you want to discuss things in PMs with me, feel free, I take all comers.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 07:49 GMT
#426
On January 11 2014 16:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 10:48 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I'm the best candidate for mayor.


no longer interested?

Well, you're not reading.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 08:26 GMT
#436
I'd like it if people did not ignore my post on the previous page, despite it getting buried.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 08:44 GMT
#439
Why do you think gumshoe is town?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 08:57 GMT
#445
I'd like to lynch Mocsta



Original Message From Mocsta:
Sucks to be you.

Enjoy the short game

scum-mato

Show nested quote +
Original Message From yamato77:
If you're town, this is a bit silly.

Original Message From Mocsta:
Caught pants down.

Im gonna vig you.

beter become mayor and lynch me

Original Message From yamato77:
...

alright, then

Original Message From Mocsta:
OK scum.


Good bye.

Original Message From yamato77:
Wave would be on the shortlist of people I'd consider for mayor aside from myself.

Original Message From Mocsta:
Currently undecided.

What do you think?

Original Message From yamato77:
Your vote.

Original Message From Mocsta:
Intentions about?

Original Message From yamato77:
Would you be more forthcoming about your intentions in private?


I think the quote chain speaks for itself.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 09:19 GMT
#467
On January 11 2014 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are discussing your reads in PM's that's anti-town. There is no reason to do that if you are town. So i assume you are not doing anything useful in PM-land.

I want you to explain why:
1) BH's policy makes him suspicious
2) Why Mocsta trolling makes him scum
3) Why marv's "non-caringness" makes him scum

If Moc does not stop trolling, we will kill him. If he's town and doing this, he knows this.

If he doesn't want to play the game, he should be obliged.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 18:21 GMT
#691
On January 12 2014 03:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It's weird to make a post that essentially functions as a list of accusations/scumreads without actually calling anyone scummy/scum/or likely scum and even admitting in suchdoges case that he doubts he is mafia? So what's even the point of saying anything then.

Implied suspicion?

I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 18:26 GMT
#694
On January 12 2014 03:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It's weird to make a post that essentially functions as a list of accusations/scumreads without actually calling anyone scummy/scum/or likely scum and even admitting in suchdoges case that he doubts he is mafia? So what's even the point of saying anything then.

Implied suspicion?

I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky.

I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever.

You can call him bad, but I know some of his thoughts about players in the game at least, and he seems inquisitive enough to people he might vote for mayor. Has he not PM'd you?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 19:30 GMT
#710
It does seem weird that you, as town, don't associate the PMs you got with the posts in the thread. I could believe you, as mafia, forgot who you were PMing and picked a post you thought you could make look bad out of the thread without considering whose it was.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 19:34 GMT
#713
We'll call it moot.

Is there anything else in the thread you feel the need to remark on?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 20:21 GMT
#714
RE: Moc actually playing the game

I initially felt like Moc trolling was a town tell, but as anyone reading saw, it got old quickly. Thankfully he stopped, but what does this tell us about his alignment?

The act itself of beginning to play the game is null. As mafia, he's surely invested in not getting lynched, especially on the first day, and with many players stating their intent to kill him lest he stop, he didn't really have much of a choice. As town, he obviously gains nothing from continuing to troll aside from perhaps reaction reads, but will also probably inevitably get lynched. Similar logic, it does nothing to further his wincon as either alignment to get lynched, so he stops trolling.

What he has done since seems townish. I'm leery of Mocsta because of how poorly I read him in LXIII, but I see nothing that suggests to me that he's attempting to be deceptive. He talks a lot with kush, but that in and of itself doesn't mean anything nefarious. He looks like he's putting in effort in his own Mocsta way, so there's no reason to pat special attention to him any longer.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 20:29 GMT
#717
Wanna share?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 20:49 GMT
#735
Like I asked before DrH, do you have anything else notable you want to talk about or is the Xatalos thing still convincing to you?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 21:03 GMT
#741
Captain Obvious is Chezinu

fuck
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 21:08 GMT
#743
Pretty sure LSB Banking was a former Chezinu smurf.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 21:12 GMT
#745
Maybe I was wrong, BUT THERE WAS DEFINITELY A CONNECTION between Chez and LSB Banking.

It also makes sense for it to be Chez in the first place. He's a known smurfer, and that account has only been used to troll.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 21:37 GMT
#749
Well, if it's Chez, we pretty much just ignore/lynch him at our convenience.

It would be nice to know who it is, regardless.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 21:49 GMT
#752
On January 12 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 06:37 yamato77 wrote:
Well, if it's Chez, we pretty much just ignore/lynch him at our convenience.

It would be nice to know who it is, regardless.

Why? The only time I played with Chezinu (PYP) he played really well and townie.

Most of the time he trolls.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 21:49 GMT
#753
On January 12 2014 06:47 Koshi wrote:
So little votes.

##vote: DoctorH

Why are you voting for DrH? I don't see a reason in your filter.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 22:40 GMT
#773
So let me get this straight, you think the best reason to vote for DrH is because he promised to use the hammer power well, and that this won't change short of a mason claim?

Yeah, no.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 22:42 GMT
#775
On January 12 2014 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
thanks yam, i got dis ;p

ninja'd real hard
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 22:50 GMT
#791
On January 12 2014 07:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Since your policy lynch is gone BH how do you feel about lynching xatalos?

I thought BH was your top scumspect?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:01 GMT
#813
I recommend me, as I'm actually consistent.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:11 GMT
#827
Well, I didn't exactly expect this.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:13 GMT
#830
On January 12 2014 08:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't see why DR.H would make such an abrupt move when has the momentum as scum, only draws suspicion. Probably just has legit reasons for not wanting to continue like he said.

Although, I don't agree with his yamato pick as a stand in.

Who would you elect?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:13 GMT
#834
That's legit like the fourth time that's happened this game.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:15 GMT
#839
Lawl, so you just don't like me.

Gotcha
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:16 GMT
#841
On January 12 2014 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
or BH or Koshi.

I'd add our recently re-appeared friend Hopeless to that list.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:17 GMT
#846
On January 12 2014 08:16 marvellosity wrote:
No Hopeless, you have a 0% chance of being elected mayor, so at the moment it just looks like you're using this as a terrible excuse not to actually contribute.

I give credit to thrawn for tipping me off to Hopeless first, for this exact reason.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:20 GMT
#854
I really hate people that make no attempt whatsoever to opt in to the conversations in the thread and instead cop out with silly campaigns/unexplained and or bad votes.

I will lynch in this group of players.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:24 GMT
#859
On January 12 2014 08:22 Koshi wrote:
How? This is a pm game?

Masons are just confirmed town to each other.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:29 GMT
#868
On January 12 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:20 yamato77 wrote:
I really hate people that make no attempt whatsoever to opt in to the conversations in the thread and instead cop out with silly campaigns/unexplained and or bad votes.

I will lynch in this group of players.

Well my campaign was mostly to get Helvetica elected.

Why do you trust DrH's judgment so much?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:37 GMT
#881
On January 12 2014 08:35 marvellosity wrote:
if mafia hits Hopeless in the first couple of nights they are doing town a massive favour by not hitting stronger players

100000000x this
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:40 GMT
#888
On January 12 2014 08:40 LSB wrote:
Coagulation has replaced mkfuba07

here's our lynch
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:43 GMT
#892
On January 12 2014 08:41 marvellosity wrote:
I prefer yamato, rayn, or maybe me tomorrow.

ditto
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 23:54 GMT
#895
On January 12 2014 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seems like we have a solid foundation there at any rate, Between mayor and doctor we can probably keep 2 of the 3 past night.

So now you think I look townie?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 00:04 GMT
#903
On January 12 2014 09:00 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:40 yamato77 wrote:
On January 12 2014 08:40 LSB wrote:
Coagulation has replaced mkfuba07

here's our lynch


wtf. I havnt even got a chance to post yet and you guys have already written me off and shit on me.

fuck u guys then. find someone else to shit on.

Calm down, broag, it was in jest.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 00:58 GMT
#911
If you're scum after that emotional blab, I'm never playing with you again.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 01:03 GMT
#918
On January 12 2014 09:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 09:58 yamato77 wrote:
If you're scum after that emotional blab, I'm never playing with you again.


so what you're SAYING is that if i wax emotional enough you won't try to lynch me?

You could just play the game properly.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 01:04 GMT
#920
On January 12 2014 09:59 marvellosity wrote:
that wasn't even emotional blab yamato, i'd be fine with a mafia player posting any of that

I'm not saying it's cheating, I just don't think it's something scum-WoS would have the deceptive ability to post, and if he does, I'd rather not policy lynch him every game because of it <3
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 01:06 GMT
#923
Well, I can tell you that I PM'd him first out of our interaction.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 01:25 GMT
#933
Yeah, I would love to see BH's head today.

DrH is also very likely town for sharing. <3 DrH
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 01:42 GMT
#959
On January 12 2014 10:40 marvellosity wrote:
it's scummy because all your reasoning so far has been gash.

bingo
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 02:06 GMT
#1010
On January 12 2014 11:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
new rule: don't engage with BH untill hopeless confirms him. then continue not engaging wth BH.

sounds like a plan
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 02:09 GMT
#1015
On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
let's talk about how derrida is scum

Not Koshi?

He was next on my list.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 02:13 GMT
#1020
Or BC

But he SHOULD play more soon.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 07:09 GMT
#1067
On January 12 2014 15:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I think yamato will just kill someone he doesn't like.

I should lynch you just for this silly sentiment alone.

Wave isn't even running, and Rayn/Marv are both other potential candidates, but instead of voting for me, or either of them, you vote for a guy who spent a long ass post explaining precisely why he WAS NOT interested in being mayor.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 08:32 GMT
#1074
On January 12 2014 16:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh Yamato, I don't think it's a silly sentiment at all. But be that as it may, why would that silly sentiment make me scum? Can you REALLY say that you don't think I'd think that about you as town? REALLY?

The sentiment is bad. What makes you mafia is your vote on Wave at a time when he had literally just explained at extreme length why he's not running.

You're opting out of real discussion by doing this so late in the day.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 08:34 GMT
#1075
On January 12 2014 16:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yamato, as it stands atm I think I may be able to ensure your election.
You've thrown a bunch of names around as to who you might want to kill---BH, Hopeless, VE now, people who don't contribute in the thread...
I want to know where you're headed with the lynch long before it happens and I want it to be consistent. Can you do that?

Well, I'm going to be gone most of tomorrow until past the deadline, so it's hard for me to do that.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 08:53 GMT
#1077
On January 12 2014 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i am pretty sure VE is not scum.

He's basically done nothing today.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 12 2014 10:00 GMT
#1094
Since I won't be here after this point, I feel confident placing the lynch in Rayn's hands.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 03:35 GMT
#1607
someone catch me up, I'm tired
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 03:40 GMT
#1609
who killed who?

(mayor, lynchee)
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 03:52 GMT
#1611
why did he kill xat? did xat scumslip or something?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 05:37 GMT
#1622
On January 13 2014 03:35 Blazinghand wrote:
marv probably scum. before i claimed mason in thread, i claimed mason to marv in PMs with hopeless, and hopeless confirmed it in pms with marv. nothing about me claiming in thread shoudl have changed marv's mind or made him "more sure"

marv already ahd confirmation from hopeless1. do not elect marv.

It's a good thing I wasn't elected, I could lynch BH for posting this, mason claim confirmed or not.

On January 13 2014 05:51 bumatlarge wrote:
Making a claimed mason mayor is a pretty good idea. It just depends on the person and their scum read. Are we really that set on not making BH or hopeless mayor?


One of bum's only posts in the day. Now that I've actually caught up and read the whole day since I peaced out last night, I definitely think it's long overdue for him to have done something at all if he was town, but instead he says this amidst Marv trying to figure out who he's going to lynch.

Would scum really be this clueless, though?

On January 13 2014 06:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
I don't like the xata lynch, I don't even think he's all that scummy. As stated earlier I am not gonna vote for any mayor who doesn't promise to kill derrida.


This is extremely stupid and makes me rethink entirely how I view thrawn. Early on he was townish but his activity has dropped off a cliff and his effort level has similarly fallen. I know he's capable of posting STUFF as mafia (Extractor), so it's no unheard of that he didn't hyperlurk. Would kill, maybe.

On January 13 2014 06:35 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry doge, I have to leave, I'm going to put my vote on WoS, but I don't think it matters too much at this point.


Like really, so clueless. I yelled at VE for this and it's even worse at this point.

On January 13 2014 07:06 Mig wrote:
marv, you seem very likely to be mayor. If you are concerned about the xat lynch then who are you going to be lynched.



Maybe an attempt at moving Marv away from Xat? It's thin, but I'm not NEARLY as impressed with Mig as Rayn/Marv have been.

On January 13 2014 07:34 Mig wrote:
To Marv

I am only about 50 pages in so quick thoughts are this-

thrawn is very very likely town - Mafia are rarely going to fake claim this early and on top of that oftentimes millers are not self aware. Mafia wont know whether millers are self aware or not so to claim you are a self aware early on in thread is a huge gamble (if it turns out they arent self aware and one flips later on this could potentially be suicide).

I am actually a bit suspicious you just ignored this right after thrawn claimed but you didn't list him under your suspicious list at least so meh.

koshi/rayn both very likely town - both playing the exact same as previous games I have played with them as town.

doge- likely town, every pm game I play most of the people active in pms and trying to seek people out through skype are town. The fact that he is talking to you, he also pmd me right away, is something I don't think many mafia would do unless they were extremely confident in their play (assuming you are town). Your point about him still being suspicious of bh/hopeless is another thing that appear townie to me.

Scummy people

I haven't had a chance to talk to WoS or Yam in pms yet but both look bad to me. WoS's posts that I have read so far are wordy with very little content. Just seems like a lot of pointless fluff.

Yam - I can't really explain it but this is based on tone for me. The last big game with mayors I played with yam he ran for mayor and seemed so much more confident and his posts were way more direct and to the point. This game he starts out writing 10 paragraphs when he could have explained his thoughts in 2 and I don't see him being nearly as aggressive.

I would probably prefer if one of those 2 were lynched, but I imagine I am in the minority on that for now.

Cpt obvious I think would be a bad lynch candidate. He is putting 0 effort into appearing to look good, even after people have yelled at him about looking shitty. Strikes me as a bad/lazy townie.

Xat - I would be ok with a Xat lynch. I don't think his indignant pms to you really point to him being town. I haven't read the most recent stuff yet but his early posts to me seem hesitant and a lot of his early questions were pointless fluff.


"Ok with a Xat lynch" but "Yamato and WoS" are "Scummy people"

Fuck this dude.

On January 13 2014 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
There is something so off between WoS and VE.

WoS said to me that VE and him agreed on "practically everything"

but if VE's reads were me/mocsta, then Wave didn't mention being suspicious of either when he spoke to me.

It's all very weird


Obviously the case. I think AT LEAST ONE of them is mafia. VE voting for WoS at the time I called him out for it is just icing on top of the cake. WoS is also apparently one of the few people VE talks to for any length of time.

On January 13 2014 08:41 marvellosity wrote:
what the fuck is he doing


What indeed.

On January 13 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am fucking furious right now.
Marv I can't fucking believe how hard you are misrepresenting me right now.
I flat out told you that I have a hard time trusting you and am suspicious of you and you say I'm not?
And all of a sudden the whole fucking thread nearly gets together to lynch me at the last second while I'm fucking afk?

Aside from the fucking lot of you all saying 'oh well his filter looks scummy' WHICH ONE OF YOU ACTUALLY WROTE A FUCKING CASE? WHO HAS SOME FUCKING SCUM PROOF? WHO HAS SOME ANALYSIS? Nobody, that's who.

Some fucking horseshit going on right here. Marv congratulations on being right about Xatalos, maybe before some moron shoots VE you should remember what I said to you about him. People fucking lumping me into the same group as Derrida wtf is that.

I'll be back later tonight once I've calmed down and had a chance to relax. I just typed out a long paragraph about where I was but fuck that, you people don't deserve it.


This post is just so not how I think a town WoS would respond it's absurd. He's so caught up in acting angry, yet he manages to mention Marv being right about Xatalos in a nice way smack dab in the middle of his rage?

I think this is a case of scum-WoS being mad that people suspect him.

Thrawn - VE - Bum - WoS - Mig

2-4 mafia.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 05:38 GMT
#1624
I guarantee mafia were supporting my election at some point

WoS PMs me after I say I'm not running and says he "doesn't like the alternatives".

Idk man, this whole game is weird.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 05:39 GMT
#1625
On January 13 2014 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey yamato. you do irc?

I could, I guess
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 06:02 GMT
#1627
On January 12 2014 16:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yamato, as it stands atm I think I may be able to ensure your election.
You've thrown a bunch of names around as to who you might want to kill---BH, Hopeless, VE now, people who don't contribute in the thread...
I want to know where you're headed with the lynch long before it happens and I want it to be consistent. Can you do that?

This post is also something weird.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 06:05 GMT
#1628
I rescind the thrawn read, by the way.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 07:45 GMT
#1633
I want the seal, coag
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 08:13 GMT
#1635
##Lynch: Coagulation
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 18:31 GMT
#1758
I'm here, ask me stuff
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#1761
On January 14 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 03:31 yamato77 wrote:
I'm here, ask me stuff

Happy Birthday. Don't lynch me.

<3
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 18:55 GMT
#1763
I talked to thrawn in IRC last night

It was good times, I think he's pretty townie.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 19:00 GMT
#1768
IRC doesn't want to work for me
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 19:20 GMT
#1773
BH still useless despite being "confirmed town"

I would still kill him
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 19:23 GMT
#1777
On January 14 2014 04:22 Blazinghand wrote:
My mason partner has said something to Marv that I'm fairly sure Marv 100% sure we're town.

It has nothing to do with your alignment and everything to do with not wanting to see you post anymore.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 19:30 GMT
#1780
On January 14 2014 04:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 04:23 yamato77 wrote:
On January 14 2014 04:22 Blazinghand wrote:
My mason partner has said something to Marv that I'm fairly sure Marv 100% sure we're town.

It has nothing to do with your alignment and everything to do with not wanting to see you post anymore.

that's not scummy at all. no sir. towniest yamato to date.

You're in the same boat as BH
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 20:17 GMT
#1810
On January 14 2014 04:40 Blazinghand wrote:
@Yamato77

Tell me about your mig read. he was ok with the xat lynch (who flipped scum) and was also okay with lynching WoS (who you wouldn't mind seeing dead) and you. You say "fuck this dude" (link) but he was onboard with lynching one confirmed scum and one guy you find scummy. Could you explain the mig read in more detail? After all, since you agree with him on one of his three scumreads you mentioned, and the other one flipped scum, I would suspect you'd be more interesting in interacting with him than cursing at him.


1) He called me mafia. That's his first mistake.

2) He was "okay with a Xat lynch" but Xat is missing from his "scummy people" list.

3) Most of his post was hard sheeping established town sentiment

4) His post about "who are you going to lynch, Marv?" tips off the scum sensors, especially given the timing
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 20:21 GMT
#1814
On January 14 2014 05:07 Blazinghand wrote:
[12:15] <VisceraEyes> Blazinghand you are so cool
[12:16] <Blazinghand> Yes I am
[12:16] <ViscerEyes> How do I be cool like you. i've always wanted to be you. i respect you so much
[12:15] <Blazinghand> well, yamato77 is probably scum. let's see how he responds to my most recent post addressing him.

you're also bad if you actually think I'm mafia

another reason to kill you
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 23:23 GMT
#1873
I'm down for killing wave.

Multiple people agree with me that his rage post is fake as fuck.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 14 2014 00:22 GMT
#1916
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 14 2014 00:38 GMT
#1946
LOL Mocsta

late to the party
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 14 2014 00:46 GMT
#1956
worst masons ever btw
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 14 2014 00:50 GMT
#1964
I'd rather just continue playing

They were pretty useless anyway
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 14 2014 01:27 GMT
#2059
this is a joke
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 14 2014 01:40 GMT
#2120
Marv, who would've been BGs?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 14 2014 01:45 GMT
#2130
On January 14 2014 10:40 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, who would've been BGs?

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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 14 2014 01:46 GMT
#2137
On January 14 2014 10:45 marvellosity wrote:
it would have been bum/coag

good choices, mafia would never shoot them ROFL
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