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[countdown][/countdown]tags to make a time countdown as well, btw, as such: Time until game start: [countdown]January 1st, 2015 15:00 EST[/countdown] to get: Time until game start: For localized time you enter something like: Game will start at [time]January 14th, 2014 15:00 EST[/time] (with your local timezone instead of EST if applicable) to get: Game will start at 20:00 GMT (+00:00) Of course you can always plagiariase by stealing someone else's time tags through quoting them and removing everything irrelevant xD | ||
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On January 10 2014 07:42 Xatalos wrote: [url blocked] wow also | ||
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On January 10 2014 09:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: nvm if i have a kp im killing "suchdoge" day 1 if im a dayvig or whatever he's gone, i don't care if he is the detective or the godfather of my own mafia team, i will bus him immediately. my first goal is to eliminate suchdoge, after that i will play normally such cry Much wtf Hahahaha. Lighten up doc. My meme usage will be pretty minimal. Tasteful, you could say. | ||
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The mayor we elect should ideally look very town, and be very accountable to his or her reads. This basically requires the player to be active and good at hunting scum as town. They also need to be capable of leading while sufficiently malleable to the opinions of others-in other words if they can coordinate a town circle and consolidate opinions that they receive from a majority of the players in the game. They should be very active in PMs. In light of this marvellosity and Mig would be ideally the best candidates if we can determine they are likely town. In Marv's case this is probably harder but if he is town he'd most definitely be the best choice. He has good reads, is active, and has played with most if not all of the players in the game. Mig on the other hand is far more accountable as town, because he's one of the easiest scum players to catch. Essentially if he's not making sense and he's not actively finding scum, he's scum. His reads tend to be really good as town and make absolutely no sense whatsoever as scum. He hasn't played much recently but he'd still be a great choice for mayor. I'm unwilling to vote DH if either of these other two can establish themselves as town with good reads. I'm unwilling to vote DH in general because as a scum hunter I do not think he is good enough. He does not know the current players well enough- by virtue of his comment on not knowing who Xatalos is this should be pretty apparent. I also do not think he displays the proper mindset to be able to catch scum, and would probably be more likely to push bad or slightly disruptive townies simply for the reasons of disagreeing with them. Disagreements should be welcomed as long as they are properly reasoned. Lastly I do not think DH is as capable of leading as either of the other two, especially again as he does not know what to expect from some of these players given that he does not know them well enough. His posts so far have simply been long winded and relatively devoid of substance. They certainly have been written well, but often they do not carry a point that is worth the 300 words it is accompanied with. I think that everyone should be PMing players they think they can read easily in PMs-attempt to get a feel for the alignments of different people by PMing them. If you encounter a player who does not much effort in discussing reads with you, then you should be alarmed and should probably consider calling them out in thread. For now if anyone has questions you are all encouraged to PM me. I will be a bit busy today but hopefully should get the time to answer everyone throughout the day when I have breaks. | ||
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If you want, we can take it to PMs. | ||
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On January 11 2014 20:15 Mocsta wrote: I have nothing to hide, and am more than happy to continue shitting up the thread. My issue is precisely without lies outside the spoilers. Having said that, I jsut finished reading what lies within the spoilers and am equally dismayed. So you would rather not discuss things in PMs for a reason that I can only say is dismissive and bad. Would you say that anyone who refused to discuss things with you in PMs with such an awful reason would be town? I certainly wouldn't. I'd be pretty suspicious of anyone who is not willing to divulge their thinking process in private. It takes too much effort for scum to blend in under that type of pressure. We could discuss preliminary reads. Who we think is scum. Who we think is almost certainly town. Do you not want to do that? | ||
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I've reached the PM cap for the day so please provide a method of communication when you send me a PM or a response. I would like to use a QT or something like that if possible but I suppose I could work out something else like Skype as well. | ||
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Have you ever played with any of those players? Did you actually read my post? The reason I ask is because I don't think DH is good at all, especially not in comparison to Mig or marv when they are town. I would love to see a game in which DH scum hunted as well as Mig or marv do consistently, because I've never seen it. Also I don't understand how you can come to the conclusion that I came up with that post pregame unless you thought I knew that DH would be the frontline candidate with Mig and marv not having posted. Quite frankly that makes no sense. | ||
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On January 11 2014 22:21 marvellosity wrote: Just stop it will you? You're not funny, you're not clever, you're not amusing, you're not making anyone's game more pleasant and interesting, you're just being a selfish asshole. Well done you. Aren't you just a star. If you didn't see my previous post, when you respond to my PM please send me some sort of alternative to communicate with you, I have a PM cap since I'm on a new account. Skype is probably fine if you have nothing better that you check as often as TL. | ||
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On January 11 2014 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: So why did you write a post with 500words that says nothing about who is mafia? Also why did you call out DrH for making posts with many words when you do the exact same thing, write big posts that say nothing? I'm sorry, what? The whole point of my post was to outline why DH is a bad choice for mayor. I had no intentions of giving my scum reads with that post and I don't intend to make any of my scum reads public except after I have determined my suspicions in PMs. Have you never played a PM game before? Mayor candidates, on the other hand, should do less talking about what they think should happen and more in the thread about who they want to lynch-based on the responses they receive in PMs. I do not intend to be posting much more in the thread. This is merely temporary as long as I have not established an alternate PM mechanic with people I want to discuss reads with. | ||
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Phoneskyping so keep that in mind (also gonna have to charge soon and no outlet near comfortable place sadly) I'll be around for an hour or so before I have to leave for most of the day (~9-10 hours) | ||
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Also if I tab off I get booted I think. | ||
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If you wanna provide an alternate method like Skype or IRC I can pop on some time later today. I'm a bit busy unfortunately or I'd be around more. | ||
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By the way you worded that it almost sounds as if you don't want marv as mayor, which makes very little sense except as scum attempting to subtly discredit marv. Care to explain what exactly you are not happy with? ##vote marvellosity | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:04 WaveofShadow wrote: lol subtly Welcome to the thread. Who have you been talking to, because I assume in your extended absence you must have had some conversations and reads going. marv pretty much. No one else has bothered to Skype me, which is the only thing that I can use as long as I have no PC (for like 1-2 days maybe?) suchdogemlg420 IRC doesn't work cause it requires me to be constantly present. Skype works more like text messaging although the app is kinda buggy. My 5 PMs have been refreshed though so I've responded to DH and I will be reaching out to VE and whomever else strikes my fancy. Also as a public notice the following players did not respond to my PMs from the first 24 hours: BC CaptainObvious BH Mig So, only marv responded and other than that only DH actually bothered to reach out to me. Of the above players BH and CO are actually scummy since they were in the thread and provably not afk for some time. | ||
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On January 12 2014 22:13 Xatalos wrote: marv: I've been PM'ing a lot since I just woke up recently. Doesn't sound like "day" to me | ||
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Oh this is not for you, honey. This is for anyone who will be reading this later. By saying "I've been pming a lot since I woke up" and then changing it to "I meant 'day' as in beginning of day 1" sounds very much like you just want people to believe you'be been doing more than you've actually been doing. A townie would not have anything to gain from lying about what sort of impact he's had on the game, not to mention that a townie would be able to provide his exact contributions as he stated them beforehand. Your backtrack just sounds like what scum would say when caught fibbing about how much they've helped town. | ||
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On January 12 2014 23:14 Mocsta wrote: Suchdoge just scum claimed as far as I'm concerned. One trivial point. He did log onto irc yesterday. I sent hello and then he left. The trivial point being ragn +marv were online at the same time. I already explained this. I'm on my phone, webchat times me out very fast. If I tab off (which ofc I'm going to do when I put the phone back in my pocket or whatever) then I get booted from irc. If you want to talk to me just add me on Skype. suchdogemlg420 At least I can treat that like SMS. | ||
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On January 12 2014 23:21 Xatalos wrote: Unimpressive != scummy. I'd say you're capable of impressive logic as either alignment. Besides, you're leaving out the "otherwise" from my post to Aquanim. I think your play regarding BH was townish, for example. You could just have hidden your blueread and killed him at night as scum. This doesn't at all explain why you're not supporting him for mayor. In fact it makes it even worse, because it suggests that you have things to consider him town but still don't support him as mayor. There is no one else in the game that would be better in that position because pretty much everyone else is not worth making immune to night kills. | ||
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On January 12 2014 23:23 Mocsta wrote: So you want to talk about the scum claim on Skype instead of here? Can't tell cos you avoided it all together I'm sorry, but I don't understand you. As I said if you want to talk to me msg me on Skype. I don't actually care what you think is me scum claimin or whatever, because you have already proven to everyone that your opinions don't mean anything. | ||
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On January 13 2014 05:51 bumatlarge wrote: Making a claimed mason mayor is a pretty good idea. It just depends on the person and their scum read. Are we really that set on not making BH or hopeless mayor? It's a god awful idea because it wastes the mayor protection Also both of the mason claimers so far are among the most antitown players in the game. Why have you not responded to my PM? Are you scum this game? | ||
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On January 13 2014 05:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Is a mason immune to bodyguard protection This has already been answered; masons can't be protected by BGs. Look in LSB's filter for the answer. | ||
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On January 13 2014 06:03 thrawn2112 wrote: OH WOW YOU"VE CHANGED MY MIND SUDDENLY I FORGOT WHY DERRIDA IS SCUM ........ Don't be ridiculous, if he was lacking time then you can explain the way he appeared in thread with that. It's better to give the replacement at least a cycle to catch up. Xatalos is scummier and a better lynch even if Derrida was still here. Go read his exchange with marv around page 62 or whatever where he claims he was talking lots in PMs since he woke up or whatever. The guy is clearly trying to inflate his actual impact on the game. No townie does that, especially not with such a poor explanation that is provably false and misleading after some pressure. | ||
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Xatalos claimed that he meant "since the beginning of day 1" as his excuse for the PMs when pressured, when that was clearly not what he tried to suggest in his post moments before that. It seems pretty obvious that he got caught in a lie and realised he got caught in a lie and back pedaled unsuccessfully. If he was town and actually had proper PMs the stuff he posted would have looked very different and the explanation would not have been inconsistent (or indicative of him trying to simply pretend like he was doing something to drop suspicion) | ||
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WoS is acting a bit funny but not quite as bad as Xatalos. I've told marv he should lynch Xatalos but he's too mad that I called BH+Hopeless baddies and that they should be on the table for lynching if they are around later in the game. Besides the mason claims they have yet to do anything useful and their opinions are awful. The mayor plan was itself also terrible, it suggests that if they are actually masons they didn't even know how their role worked. I can understand one of them not knowing or asking the host but both of them is just downright terrible. VE I'm still waiting for your response. Message me on Skype please suchdogemlg420 Bum I can't respond via PM please use skype | ||
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On January 13 2014 06:35 Coagulation wrote: why does no one ever pm me? Wanna Skype Coag? I can't send you a message, my PM cap has been reached. Skype: suchdogemlg420 | ||
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On January 13 2014 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's impossible to talk to you because the messsages won't go through. Hmm mine won't go through to you either Mine are working fine to thrawn/marv though | ||
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He could have given us proper reads or told us why we shouldn't lynch him but he just disappeared. Xatalos still best lynch IMO. No one has given a proper reason to keep him alive either. I guess a Captain Onvious lynch probably wouldn't be bad either. Or VE maybe. | ||
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On January 13 2014 07:13 marvellosity wrote: My pool is very small because either I think people are town or for a lot of people I have no firm idea yet and don't want to lynch randomly into them. People I just have no real idea include jat, bumatlarge, Wave (he seemed town in irc but ugh), VE, Koshi, Aquanim, coag, Mig, BC, chinstrap I was considering suchdoge but he raved at me in such an odd way on skype about how useless BH and Hopeless were and how they might be mafia later in the game, he went on and on about it and it seems like such a weird thing to do as mafia. So... yea Pool atm is Captain Obvious, Derrida/Oats, Xatalos If you have any input that might be nice I think aqua is prob town, had a convo with thrawn about it. I can explain that later if necessary. Xatalos still best lynch. Obvious second. Leave oats till we can read him. VE prob also scum. WoS could swing either way, Mig will show himself soon (he's not too hard to read honestly) After Xatalos/Capt Obvious/VE the pickings are slim so just kill one of them | ||
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On January 13 2014 07:21 Captain Obvious wrote: Your reasons for wanting to lynch me? And "policy lynch" or "hasn't done anything" are both bullshit reasons. Hasn't done anything is a bad reason now? You don't respond to PMs and in thread you do nothing that a parrot couldn't do better. If you're going to contine not trying to find scum then you probably are scum. Pretty simple. | ||
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I want to discuss reads. Otherwise I'm also okay with you just leaving your read of VE in thread. | ||
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The more I think about it the more I like VE as a lynch. | ||
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On January 13 2014 08:09 marvellosity wrote: Can anyone find a single suspicion in VE's filter other than a vague mention of Captain Obvious? Does that even make VE in particular scummy? 1. He's not active in PMs 2. He wasted his vote 3. He's not in here talking about reads 4. He doesn't seem to have reads 5. He's not complaining about there being so many lurkers/useless people 6. His tone is very nonconfrontational 7. He hasn't grown the balls to attack anyone yet All of these point to scum VE | ||
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On January 13 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote: Hmm. He may be in pm land but this I grant Post your logs with VE then please, ASAP | ||
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Yessir, would be very helpful. As of now PMs with VE are like finding an albino black sheep. They probably exist but even if you find them you still gotta explain why they look so weird | ||
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Was that everything? | ||
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He's not done anything at all despite claiming "I have three tabs open" and bunch of other stuff. | ||
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And he'd be active and effective with his time-pushing a proper mayor candidate and PMing the better players in the game (and actually discussing reads, even asking for them. Not doing that here) He also would never bs like this as town IMO. | ||
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On January 13 2014 08:55 marvellosity wrote: thing with VE is it's all so fucking blatant it's a PM game Idk not one thing he has done makes sense as town ve | ||
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On January 13 2014 09:17 LSB Banking wrote: I can actually explain every single one but you probably don't want me to dump my 7 pages word document in here and like I said I'm still focussed on reading and catching up. Nope, you mentioned that 7 page document, let's see it. Right now, post it or die. | ||
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Toad or supersoft? | ||
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On January 13 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote: I am fucking furious right now. Marv I can't fucking believe how hard you are misrepresenting me right now. I flat out told you that I have a hard time trusting you and am suspicious of you and you say I'm not? And all of a sudden the whole fucking thread nearly gets together to lynch me at the last second while I'm fucking afk? Aside from the fucking lot of you all saying 'oh well his filter looks scummy' WHICH ONE OF YOU ACTUALLY WROTE A FUCKING CASE? WHO HAS SOME FUCKING SCUM PROOF? WHO HAS SOME ANALYSIS? Nobody, that's who. Some fucking horseshit going on right here. Marv congratulations on being right about Xatalos, maybe before some moron shoots VE you should remember what I said to you about him. People fucking lumping me into the same group as Derrida wtf is that. I'll be back later tonight once I've calmed down and had a chance to relax. I just typed out a long paragraph about where I was but fuck that, you people don't deserve it. For someone who did nothing pre-lynch you're pretty mad and not remorseful. You also seem to exaggerate the level of which this game has been about you. You were nowhere close to "almost" getting lynched. That's a lie if I've ever seen one, and at the least a gross misrepresentation. Also you never bothered to actually discuss with marv. VE needs to die. You need to post your logs with VE or you will probably die with him. And you need to do it now. Right now. | ||
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On January 13 2014 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote: FWIW though, my alignment SHOULD be clear to anyone paying attention. duh of course you're scum. I think we all figured that by now. | ||
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You can't read into people when they don't reply. That's the easiest type of log to fake, because there's nothing to fake aside from a single outgoing PM. That post says nothing aside from Aqua and thrawn likely being town. | ||
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I err on the side of bum not being scum too. VE is almost unequivocally scum, and WoS is probably scum with him. Of the remaining players it's likely that a newer player is also scum. Chinstrap fits. (I personally want to give the LSB banking guy a bit to come forth with more reads that aren't from his pre-replacement notes). The only other players that are worth a look are BC, gumshoe, and potentially JAT mocsta Coag. The last three I put at unlikely but without having really talked with them or having heard of them through PMs I'm not anywhere near as confident on them being town as some others. | ||
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The logs between aqua and Xatalos also sort of fall in the same category. Aqua could possibly be scum still if Xata faked those logs but I find it less likely. I'll have to reread the WoS logs. | ||
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My sent PMs do not refresh for at least a couple hours. | ||
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On January 13 2014 18:21 Aquanim wrote: Hmph. Well, most of my reads this game have had the addenum (spoken or not) of "this person might be playing in PMs instead" which introduces uncertainty - hence why I haven't been as confident in my reads in this game as I've been in the past. Also, simply by reason of there being so many more people to look at in a large game compared to a mini my effort per player has necessarily been less. And as to why I haven't posted in the thread for two hours - I didn't have anything which I felt needed to be said. It's night-phase, what do you expect? Can you get on Skype? I want to chat. Make a new account if you have to please. | ||
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On January 13 2014 18:39 Aquanim wrote: No, sorry. I could make a QT and send it to you though (not sure what the delays on you getting PMs are but I hope you get them eventually?). Fine I guess. I'll get the PM immediately. I just cannot send PMs. | ||
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On January 14 2014 02:29 VisceraEyes wrote: No thanks. You can PM me if you wish, and I might get on IRC later. I'm not feeling using Skype right now. I can't PM you, I have a PM cap of 5. Also, I already PMed you once with no reply. | ||
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If you want an alternate system then PM me details and I'll see what I can do. I'll post a response here in thread. | ||
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suchdogemlg420 As for the players you mentioned, I think the first two are likely town (like 80%+) and the last one likely scum (also like 80%+) I can explain more if you can get an alternate PM method. | ||
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On January 14 2014 05:21 yamato77 wrote: you're also bad if you actually think I'm mafia another reason to kill you while I agree with you that Blazinghand and Hopeless1der have proved themselves two of the worst players on the forum through this game and I would wholeheartedly agree with killing them both just so that they'd stop posting there are better players to go after. | ||
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On January 14 2014 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not necessarily. I have strong reasons to assume they are not masons at all, which makes them mafia. you still in chatzy? let's talk | ||
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I recall seeing both WoS and VE at some point mention me in PMs, yet neither bothered to respond to my PMs nor did they reach out to me. You would think that townies who are trying to figure out the game would use PMs to their advantage by PMing people, either to discuss reads or clarify their thoughts on different players by interacting with them. You would also think that VE and WoS would reach out to marv after he lynched a scum, but that didn't happen either. Can't really put the reason down as "they're bad" for that one, cause even brand new players will have the foresight to realise that someone who lynches scum day 1 is almost certainly not scum himself. | ||
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post your logs with BH please. Or PM them to me, it doesn't matter. The faster you do this the better. | ||
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bum gave me this PM shortly after I sent him something (~7 hours or so) hey sorry, i dont like being active early, kind of a crap shoot. I don't have a scum read on you, and I think people are way to gung ho about reads so early in the game. you could argue its a town-tell, but when everyone does it multiple times it loses the tell. ill try to give you my thoughts on xalatos Original Message From suchdoge: Care to talk with me a bit about the game? My Skype is: suchdogemlg420 We can discuss such things as our scum reads and who we want as mayor. The day's half over, after all. I look forward to hearing from you. afterward I sent him another PM asking him if he could skype. What's weird is that he said he'd "try" to give me thoughts on xatalos. I didn't ask about Xatalos specifically. He never gave his thoughts, either. So one has to ask, why Xatalos specifically (so late in the day too) and why didn't he bother replying to me at all? I might be reading too far into this and this all could very well just be a product of his immense inactivity. However the fact that he bothered to promise some reads on Xatalos and didn't come forth with anything, and also didn't further PMs is a little worrying. | ||
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On January 13 2014 06:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Just got home from my buddies but have a 3-5 hour shit at work at 4:30 (20 minutes from now) I will be catching up on the thread when I get home and posting then as I will be around. I apologize for the not being here basically all day 1 but game start time was made after I had plans. I shall see the thread in 4-6 hours hopefully what happened to this btw BC? And why did you vote yourself? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler chinstrap bumatlarge marvellosity yamato77 - 95% Mig VayneAuthority - 95% Alakaslam - 95% VisceraEyes Koshi DoctorHelvetica WaveofShadow gumshoe - 70% LSB Banking - 60% Blazinghand justanothertownie - 60% thrawn2112 Mocsta - this one I've put down to trusting marv-aside from his blind aggression he has not done much as far as I can tell suchdoge Captain Obvious Aquanim - 95% Coagulation -95% Hopeless1der All the players I have highlighted in bold green, IMO, are very very unlikely to be scum. There are only two players I have as slight town-JAT and LSB Banking. I don't think they're all that likely to be scum given that other options can't be eliminated, particularly if both WoS and VE are scum. If most other options are exhausted I'd look at these guys again. The players I've labeled as - 95% I have given a very slight chance to be scum. Alakaslam, for example, might very possibly be scum if the logs he posted with VE were faked, but it is incredibly unlikely. Those logs mostly just make VE look much worse, particularly as it raises the question of why VE would be willing to talk to slam and not myself, for example, or marv in particular. There are four scum in the above list-I don't see VE being town, and WoS is probably scum too. VE being scum probably makes Captain Obvious a bit less likely to be scum as well, though if he continues to not provide reads that'd be a bit worrisome. Gumshoe I think is a good possibility for scum, particularly because of his quite strange interactions with Xatalos, among other things. From what I understand he lurks pretty hard as town as well but posts like this still give me pause. On January 13 2014 04:58 gumshoe wrote: I'm fine with Marv as mayor, also I'm fine with xata dying regardless of my alignment because once he's out of the game I can stop lurking! ## Vote: Marvellosity This post is almost nonsensical, and when I read it I wondered why he made that first comment at all. He said something similar about Xatalos earlier in the game too. He also hasn't stopped lurking, so he should be pressured to do so. Probably the fastest way to figure out if he's scum or not is if he's responsive in PMs, even if his opinions make little sense. Of the remaining players there are only four: BC bumatlarge chinstrap Captain Obvious I'd put all of these firmly in the null range. BC has done absolutely nothing so far. Unreadable. Chinstrap, likewise, has done nothing so far. Again, unreadable. Bum promised me a read of Xatalos and disappeared. He actually bothered to respond to my PM, which is sort of a plus, but he disappeared and didn't follow through on a simple promise, which is a minus. Pretty unreadable. Captain Obvious is not quite on the same level of unreadable as the others but I've listed him here simply because he should not be ignored. VE had some interaction with him by calling him scum (and saying he would not mind CO getting lynched-though he said the same thing about Xatalos) but Captain Obvious has done nothing to show us he is town. If in the worst case one or both of VE/WoS are town then the above list should probably be strongly reconsidered. In this case, we may have to reconsider some town reads. I'd start with LSB Banking and JAT and work from there. If we are to consider balance and both VE and WoS flip scum then it is probably likely that there is a newer player on the scumteam, which would make someone like chinstrap/LSB/JAT more likely. | ||
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I would expect there to have been resistance to his candidacy, but not directly. This would explain, for example, VE's late vote on marv, among other things. This makes players such as BC and chinstrap look worse despite the fact that they did not do anything else, because they wasted their votes. This is a good way for scum to indirectly oppose a good candidacy, because by feigning ignorance they do not have to give reasons for opposing. This is something to think about but unfortunately it can't be used with anything else to further any sort of read since neither player has done anything yet. | ||
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Why would you reveal that? | ||
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can someone explain this?? | ||
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Although I don't understand why that would be the case. | ||
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On January 14 2014 09:41 thrawn2112 wrote: damn lsb u are pretty townie that was a pretty cool reaction test u help us catch gumshoe, i give you .3 townie points lol | ||
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On January 14 2014 09:45 marvellosity wrote: Townread on Mocsta retracted not reading the thread at all you just realised this? guy has done nothing all game. | ||
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On January 14 2014 09:49 marvellosity wrote: So basically you told BH too late not to copy paste because he was already in the process of doing it LSB? wonderful I know you are mad, I am too, but look at the time stamps on the warnings. LSB gave him a warning more than 6 hours before he decided to post that pastebin. And again several hours later. And a third time. This is just gross incompetence on the part of BH. It's outright stupid. In all honesty it's so maddening that those 3 would be this bad. As a quick summary: 1. None of them bothered to ask the host about whether they would be eligible for BG protection if one of them became mayor. I passed this off as both hopeless and BH being somewhat careless, in light of how they had appeared so scummy in thread despite probably being town. Now that we know there were THREE of them. There is literally no excuse for a level of play this bad. This is worse than any newbie game I've seen, and probably one of the worst displays I've ever seen on the forum. Not knowing how your own role works or at the very least not having the basic foresight to clarify with the host is unquestionably terrible. 2. In addition to this you have them asking who others think should be BGs and stuff like that, and basically doing nothing with such a strong role. Lastly, you have the above, which is clearly just more stupidity piled on top of everything else. BH at the very least should get a ban for playing against his own wincondition. | ||
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On January 14 2014 09:53 Mig wrote: In the future, why not just tell the masons in their role pm who their partners were. They didn't really need a mod made quick time. As it is, what's done is done just have to go with it now. I agree with this, and it is obvious in hindsight I think. However I personally will side with LSB on this one. He has shown that BH was warned multiple times, well before the post in question. That is just gross negligence on BH's part and he deserves the modkill. Given the situation, there is no other way that would be appropriate, particularly if there is a way, for example, to search for a QT based on the mod's QT name. That kind of compromise is really really bad. | ||
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On January 14 2014 10:01 marvellosity wrote: so you modkill 2 other townies for free? why? He already mod confirmed bum and hopeless in the process. It's unreasonable to expect that they should be left alive if BH screws up, because when he flips their alignments get confirmed too. This is another reason why BH deserves a ban for this. It sucks, but that's the way it has to be. If you left them alive scum would really have no choice but to shoot them both, because BH's flip confirms all three of them. At the very least if they continue to do nothing and there are people who are wasting their time over it scum can leave them alive forever since they pose no threat. | ||
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On January 14 2014 10:08 Mocsta wrote: Lol... i love this post. I wanna restart as well.. man rolling scum 2 games ina row... sucks balls big time. rofl | ||
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On January 14 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: The real question is, why there is a fucking quick topic which is not allowed to be quoted IN A FUCKING PM GAME? because of the modposts. If you quote the mod's name and there's any way to look up a QT based on the mod's name then you can find the scum QT. I don't know if it's actually possible but given that the name is rare enough, it's a legitimate concern. There are things we can say in hindsight but none of that matters anymore. | ||
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such fail everywhere | ||
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much bad | ||
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On January 14 2014 10:36 Hopeless1der wrote: okay i guess that poll was a bad idea. more to the point, I dont think the reasons for modkilling him/us were fair in light of the fact that this was a PM game and if we were scum, we could have easily faked the mod posts since the scum QT would have had the same posts in it. that's dumb, he got warned three times. You also all played horrifically. | ||
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