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Mocsta
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January 09 2014 17:35 GMT
#125
/in
Mocsta
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January 09 2014 23:23 GMT
#180
/conformity
Mocsta
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January 10 2014 04:25 GMT
#207
On January 10 2014 13:16 Mig wrote:
I am ready to play and ready to be super lazy this game.

+1
its the weekend and i got other stuff planned.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 03:16 GMT
#368
Hi.

#1 I'm not running for mayor.

#2 I received a generic PM from BH about electing Dr.h. I assume everyone else received this.

#3 I have nothing else I care to say.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 06:11 GMT
#401
On January 11 2014 15:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well here's a shocker ladies and gents: I've rolled town.

##Vote: WoS/Gigglytummy
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 06:36 GMT
#405
On January 11 2014 15:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 15:11 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well here's a shocker ladies and gents: I've rolled town.

##Vote: WoS/Gigglytummy

So....you're voting me for mayor?

Correct
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 06:42 GMT
#407
On January 11 2014 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:11 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well here's a shocker ladies and gents: I've rolled town.

##Vote: WoS/Gigglytummy

So....you're voting me for mayor?

Correct

I haven't announced my intent to campaign. Is there a reason I have your vote and you apparently trust me over DrH and all of the other people who are actually trying for mayor?

Yes

because you rolled town.

being confirmed town, why wouldnt i vote for you?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 07:15 GMT
#411
On January 11 2014 15:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 15:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:11 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well here's a shocker ladies and gents: I've rolled town.

##Vote: WoS/Gigglytummy

So....you're voting me for mayor?

Correct

I haven't announced my intent to campaign. Is there a reason I have your vote and you apparently trust me over DrH and all of the other people who are actually trying for mayor?

Yes

because you rolled town.

being confirmed town, why wouldnt i vote for you?

Even were I confirmed town, how do you know I will use the mayoral powers effectively?

How do you know I would care?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 07:45 GMT
#419
On January 11 2014 16:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mocsta what do you think about DocH for mayor instead of WaveofShadow?

I dont have an opinion.

I haven't read any of his posts; nor do I feel I have an inclination to.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 07:49 GMT
#425
On January 11 2014 16:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 16:15 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:42 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:11 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 15:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well here's a shocker ladies and gents: I've rolled town.

##Vote: WoS/Gigglytummy

So....you're voting me for mayor?

Correct

I haven't announced my intent to campaign. Is there a reason I have your vote and you apparently trust me over DrH and all of the other people who are actually trying for mayor?

Yes

because you rolled town.

being confirmed town, why wouldnt i vote for you?

Even were I confirmed town, how do you know I will use the mayoral powers effectively?

How do you know I would care?

I would think that you should.

Maybe I should, but I don't.

And another question specifically for you, Mocsta. I am currently in contact with somebody who believes that you may be trolling with that vote. Is that true?
Are you asking if i was mocking you?

The answer is not defined in black or white. In my world there are many shades in between.
The question you ask is one not easily defined, explained or reasoned.

Was I mocking you - perhaps
Was I intending to vote you - perhaps
By vote, do you mean: mayor - perhaps
Would I shoot you - perhaps
Would I bodyguard you - perhaps

You see, the world is complicated.
Am I happy with where my vote is currently - yes.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 09:24 GMT
#473
On January 11 2014 18:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Mocsta is trolling and I think a vig should shoot him, deciding the lynch this early set in stone might not be a good idea. I would encourage all vig bullets to go toward mocsta if he doesn't adequately explain why he is trolling and purposely being unhelpful immediately and stop playing this way. If I'm mayor I won't tolerate intentionally anti-town behavior and I encourage everyone to get those players my vote away from hammer so they can be dealt with quickly, they either explain (to satisfaction) and stop or they die.

Trol0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0

Dr.H demands I explain my trolling.

Question Dr.H:
How am I going to vig myself?

muahahahahaha
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 09:26 GMT
#480
On January 11 2014 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't hate the way you play. I think you are just using many words to say very little.

I can say the same for you.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 09:30 GMT
#490
On January 11 2014 18:28 kushm4sta wrote:
dw bh im tryharding this game

tell these losers I'm town.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 09:34 GMT
#495
On January 11 2014 18:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 18:30 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 18:28 kushm4sta wrote:
dw bh im tryharding this game

tell these losers I'm town.

Based on what? Why can't you prove it to your detractors?

Assume I am an alien and am stuck on current page in all threads.

Get lost troll.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 09:36 GMT
#497
Anyways,

because Im such a pro-town mofo.

BEWARE MAYOR CANDIDATES

6. The only exception involves the mayor, once a person attains 50% of the votes and if the mayor is voting for that person, he or she is instantly killed and the day ends.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 09:45 GMT
#507
On January 11 2014 18:44 Alakaslam wrote:
So Mocsta does not desire to defend against the accusations I can't even remember, and thinks I am playing my troll game.

Moc it is good to defend as all alignments but one must do so properly. You seem to insist on discussing your own state of being misread; well then, answer queries in a timely fashion. What need you worry about? There is no blue concern since you have already claimed vig.

You're scum because you're treating me seriously.

Everyone else is ignoring me.

I will vote mayor for anyone that will lynch slam.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 09:49 GMT
#513
On January 11 2014 18:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like here is a good example. Mocsta nd VE are in a misunderstanding. Why? Does it help the town Mocsta thinks something is true when it's not? Why is VE being super secret on his read on Mocsta? Does it help anyone?

^
This is so dumb

Rayn is scum.

I will vote mayor to anyone that will lynch Rayn.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 09:50 GMT
#515
On January 11 2014 18:48 kushm4sta wrote:
page 17.. already skipping over gumshoe's posts because he's obv town. Any disagreement?

yeah

swap the badge to gumshoe.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 09:51 GMT
#518
On January 11 2014 18:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 11 2014 18:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
But yeah, feel free to take the scummy, lazy route. That's what I'm doing. *shrug*

Don't worry. I'll tell who is scum when i find one.

Man, I know you don't know my game but if you think I'm the type of player who doesn't go hard on cases then ya'll don't know me

Nah, you're the type of player that starts hard and then gets so bored with the game you stop playing

Eventually you get lynched.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 09:51 GMT
#519
On January 11 2014 18:50 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 18:45 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 18:44 Alakaslam wrote:
So Mocsta does not desire to defend against the accusations I can't even remember, and thinks I am playing my troll game.

Moc it is good to defend as all alignments but one must do so properly. You seem to insist on discussing your own state of being misread; well then, answer queries in a timely fashion. What need you worry about? There is no blue concern since you have already claimed vig.

You're scum because you're treating me seriously.

Everyone else is ignoring me.

I will vote mayor for anyone that will lynch slam.

This is foolish reasoning.

I know by experience.

Touche

I have no comeback.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:21 GMT
#537
On January 11 2014 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Elaborate more please. I can't know how you reached to the conclusion because i don't see your thought process in thread. Nor does anyone else.

Thats how we all feel about your play, each and every game.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:26 GMT
#542
On January 11 2014 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:21 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Elaborate more please. I can't know how you reached to the conclusion because i don't see your thought process in thread. Nor does anyone else.

Thats how we all feel about your play, each and every game.

Please elaborate with proper quotes to back up your statement.

No.

Its what I feel and I have nothing I need to prove to you.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:28 GMT
#544
But if you persist Rayn

Original Message From thrawn2112:
you require that I obtain consent? intersting.

On another note, Rayn. i don't get him. Hes playing worse than BttB. What do you think?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:28 GMT
#545
On January 11 2014 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well then you are not reading the threads in games Mocsta.

Who said I was reading?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:33 GMT
#548
On January 11 2014 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well thrawn is bullshitting you or is mafia. Which one is it thrawn?

I can't lie

That wouldnt be townie of me.

I made up the last sentence with Rayn in it.

I just wanted to demonstrate the ease of fabricated PMs.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:33 GMT
#550
On January 11 2014 19:29 kushm4sta wrote:
@mocsta how the fuck can I read you when all you've done is trolled? the way I read you is by the quality of your logic.

Now ppl like you know how ppl like "us" feel all the time.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:33 GMT
#551
On January 11 2014 19:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey mocsta. do you want to post all of it in context?

beat ya to it.

Permission DENIED !
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:35 GMT
#554
On January 11 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Mocsta, i asked you to back up your statement, not what other people think.
Why are you throwing the ball to thrawn? Back you your fucking statement and show me some games where my thought process has not been clear. With proper quotes.

##Shoot: Rayn
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 10:35 GMT
#556
You can lynch me if he comes back town.

But im certain hes scum.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 10:38 GMT
#559
On January 11 2014 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stop the fucking trolling already and play the game. All you do is fucking distract everyone. Modkill yourself if you are not playing the game as town. I'm fucking done with your stupid shit Mocsta.

Nice fake anger Rayn.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 10:40 GMT
#561
On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote:
mocsta whys rayn scum

Its nothing i can explain in words

just the inflections I hear in his voice.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 10:43 GMT
#563
On January 11 2014 19:42 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:40 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 19:40 kushm4sta wrote:
mocsta whys rayn scum

Its nothing i can explain in words

just the inflections I hear in his voice.

quote the words that sound scummy to you

The whole filter in one sentence is impossibly scummy to say in one breath.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 10:43 GMT
#564
BTW rayn. vig shots happen @ night only.

So you can talk at ease.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 11:07 GMT
#572
On January 11 2014 20:00 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well DrH i think you are probably town, the question is do i feel like you are going to lynch mafia on D1? That remains to be seen yet. So we can stop arguing about the way this game should be played, but i can tell you there is no reason people should not discuss reads in thread instead of PM's.
+ Show Spoiler +
Let's say you post very little and are really active in PM-land. When the lynch comes, the mayor who's gonna get elected has you as scumread. They say "i'll be lynching X because he is not playing the game and he is useless". Then people go "nono, he's really townie in PM's - look, he has these good reads on Z, A, B, K, S."

You then need to re-judge your stance on them and find anohter lynch. Why? Was there some ultimate big plan reasoning to NOT be in thread discussing thse reads? Not with one person, but with anyone.

How is that townie? I just can't fucking see it and i hate when people do it because it's scummy or really stupid. PM's should be used when there is a reason to use them. Discussing scumreads on D1 is not the reason.


A question, what do you think of Xatalos?


actually he has a lot of really townie posts. this is one of them.

I don't think scum would ever take that position towards DrH. you are town but I dont think you are going to lynch mafia.
I think that's a very townie type thought to have. I also agree with him.

LOl...
/trolling

<Serious Mode>
Thats an easy statement to apply to any player.
I think you are town but I dont respect your reads.

This is far from a good post to identify someone as clear town.
Ultimately, he is discussing his personal beliefs on how to play the game.
Something very easy to not lie about as town OR scum.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 11:09 GMT
#573
On January 11 2014 20:06 suchdoge wrote:
At this point in the game it is too early to properly consider whom to elect, particularly as the game started at a late hour for EU players (like marv). Thus I do not think players should finalise their votes or anything like that.
+ Show Spoiler [1] +

The mayor we elect should ideally look very town, and be very accountable to his or her reads. This basically requires the player to be active and good at hunting scum as town. They also need to be capable of leading while sufficiently malleable to the opinions of others-in other words if they can coordinate a town circle and consolidate opinions that they receive from a majority of the players in the game. They should be very active in PMs.


In light of this marvellosity and Mig would be ideally the best candidates if we can determine they are likely town.

+ Show Spoiler [2] +
In Marv's case this is probably harder but if he is town he'd most definitely be the best choice. He has good reads, is active, and has played with most if not all of the players in the game.

Mig on the other hand is far more accountable as town, because he's one of the easiest scum players to catch. Essentially if he's not making sense and he's not actively finding scum, he's scum. His reads tend to be really good as town and make absolutely no sense whatsoever as scum. He hasn't played much recently but he'd still be a great choice for mayor.

I'm unwilling to vote DH if either of these other two can establish themselves as town with good reads. I'm unwilling to vote DH in general because as a scum hunter I do not think he is good enough. He does not know the current players well enough- by virtue of his comment on not knowing who Xatalos is this should be pretty apparent. I also do not think he displays the proper mindset to be able to catch scum, and would probably be more likely to push bad or slightly disruptive townies simply for the reasons of disagreeing with them. Disagreements should be welcomed as long as they are properly reasoned. Lastly I do not think DH is as capable of leading as either of the other two, especially again as he does not know what to expect from some of these players given that he does not know them well enough. His posts so far have simply been long winded and relatively devoid of substance. They certainly have been written well, but often they do not carry a point that is worth the 300 words it is accompanied with.

I think that everyone should be PMing players they think they can read easily in PMs-attempt to get a feel for the alignments of different people by PMing them. If you encounter a player who does not much effort in discussing reads with you, then you should be alarmed and should probably consider calling them out in thread.

For now if anyone has questions you are all encouraged to PM me. I will be a bit busy today but hopefully should get the time to answer everyone throughout the day when I have breaks.

At spoiler 1 I thought this guy is guy but kept reading the boring monologue.

At spoiler 2, I realised this guy is scum.

##Shoot: doge
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 11:14 GMT
#574
HEAR YE, HEAR YE


To those that desire the vote of 1/25th of this game.

If thou wil indulge my simple pleasure by lynching "suchdoge"

MY vote will be forever yours during this Day 1.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 11:15 GMT
#576
On January 11 2014 20:14 suchdoge wrote:
Care to explain where you disagree Mocsta?

If you want, we can take it to PMs.

I have nothing to hide, and am more than happy to continue shitting up the thread.

My issue is precisely without lies outside the spoilers.

Having said that, I jsut finished reading what lies within the spoilers and am equally dismayed.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 11:25 GMT
#578
On January 11 2014 20:18 suchdoge wrote:
Who we think is scum.

clearly you
Who we think is almost certainly town.

clearly me

Do you not want to do that?

I already did.

Your turn.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 11:41 GMT
#580
Wow

Thats really town of you doge.

Force informatoin out of me and then return the favour.

If the mayor doesnt kill you, I will.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 13:28 GMT
#600
On January 11 2014 22:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:21 Mocsta wrote:
On January 11 2014 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Elaborate more please. I can't know how you reached to the conclusion because i don't see your thought process in thread. Nor does anyone else.

Thats how we all feel about your play, each and every game.

Just stop it will you? You're not funny, you're not clever, you're not amusing, you're not making anyone's game more pleasant and interesting, you're just being a selfish asshole.

Well done you. Aren't you just a star.

Thank you, dear

You gave me exactly what I was looking for. This was precisely the motivation I needed to continue.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 14:13 GMT
#615
P.S.

Im the only person that has voted for an actual mayor.

& I put my money where my mouth is:

Rayn
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 14:14 GMT
#617
Question to all
If someone explains a read to you in PM; Do you think it is normal if they copy/paste portions of that read in the thread?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 14:20 GMT
#618
On January 11 2014 22:42 suchdoge wrote:
Skype is suchdogemlg420 if anyone is interesyed in chatting.

Phoneskyping so keep that in mind (also gonna have to charge soon and no outlet near comfortable place sadly)

I'll be around for an hour or so before I have to leave for most of the day (~9-10 hours)

Join teamspeak. and I will have a chat with ya.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 14:25 GMT
#620
On January 11 2014 23:24 suchdoge wrote:
Is teamspeak on mobile (iphone)?

Ahhh.. not possible.

hmmmm. i dont really want to use my personal skype with a smurf; adn too lazy to make a new skype.

IRC?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 14:43 GMT
#622
On January 11 2014 23:40 suchdoge wrote:
Okay. Channel?

##TLMafia

we take it from there.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 15:11 GMT
#626
On January 12 2014 00:10 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn did marv tell you to do that?
how is marv looking?

Both are looking sexy.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 15:20 GMT
#633
On January 12 2014 00:18 kushm4sta wrote:
i thought the same exact thing when i first read it actually. If you skim it that's what it looks like because he is talking in generalities about players.

Can you please stop being so town.
You are at risk of being the n1 kill ffs
:p
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 15:23 GMT
#637
On January 12 2014 00:22 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:28 Captain Obvious wrote:
Vote me for Mayor and I shall use my magnificent powers of common sense to find and lynch mafia!


Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 14:54 Captain Obvious wrote:
Revealing all the blue roles to someone who's alignment we do not know is a very bad idea!


you three had a massive circlejerk over on irc and this is all you came up with to lynch???


Its hard to figure out whose the other 4 scum when a major load of wad is blocking the player list.
Mocsta
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January 11 2014 15:29 GMT
#639
On January 11 2014 23:43 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 23:40 suchdoge wrote:
Okay. Channel?

##TLMafia

we take it from there.

Coming back bud?

We never got to speak?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 11 2014 15:40 GMT
#640
<b>BUM[/B]

WHERE ART THOU?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 11 2014 15:49 GMT
#642
Kush

Im in agreement with JAT actually.

Me + MArv still tossing this one up but I noted the same thing.

Personally I did not care for him stating explictly he wouldnt initiate conversations either.
This sets a negative atmosphere towards communication with JAT. Its a PM game; dont like it, dont sign up.
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#646
On January 12 2014 00:53 kushm4sta wrote:
I think who BH sent the PM to is the least important aspect of that whole thing. Scum would never reveal themselves in who they are sending the PM to, because it's something that is so easy to control.

I auto-assumed he sent the PMs to everyone?
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#654
On January 12 2014 01:12 justanothertownie wrote:
I am here for maybe 1 hour before I have to leave for ~ 3 hours again to travel. After that I will be fully available for a longer timer. I will try to catch up for now. If there are any important things to look at more closely point me to it.

This page

top

is a read from Kush regarding you.
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#656
On January 12 2014 01:14 kushm4sta wrote:
kush for mayor.
because rayn sucks d1. he never gets nk early because his reads early reads are always so wrong.
because drH, there's nothing behind his try hard.

im town bish

vote me.
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#657
Anyways.. im keen for some thoughts outside rayn/marv on this.

00:10] <Mocsta> Xat responds to Rayn... regarding the same post captain obvious did
[00:10] <Mocsta> Xat: "What if the Mayor is scum? Then all the blues are dead....."
[00:10] <Mocsta> Cap+Obv: "Revealing all the blue roles to someone who's alignment we do not know is a very bad idea!"
[00:10] <Mocsta> to me.. completely different tones
[00:10] <Mocsta> in comparison, cap obv looks very scummy to me
[00:11] <Mocsta> cap obv is being condescending
[00:11] <Mocsta> xat is deprecating
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January 12 2014 03:55 GMT
#1046
Hmmmm

Aquanim. Why the need to counter a derrida wagon before it gains momentum?

Why not let it evolve organically.. I.e. let derrida speak for himself.


Do you not find it odd he posts freely in one fame and struggles in the other?
Exacerbated by a similar summary/list post to his scum opener.
Why go to that effort and then spoiler it too.?


Plus. Thrawn I'm disappointed I'm not on ya nice list. Haven't pm yam but even he put 2+2 together. Unless marv spoke to him.
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January 12 2014 04:25 GMT
#1052
Fyi
Bum pm me

Went nowhere. Maybe he went to bed
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#1085
On January 12 2014 17:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
attention thread

please raise your hand if you have been in contact with suchdoge, and specify which of you initiated the conversation. special points go to anyone that can tell me anything about his reads. if he has revealed his identity i'd like to hear it, you should pm me or wos or rayn if he's revealed it to you

<hand remainds unraised>

I'm finally back so will get to start answering questions soon.

I am very firm on whom i want lynched this cycle.
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#1086
On January 12 2014 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do, do you have any reason for calling people out for making general statements and then following it up with statements like:

"And then there's the eight or so other lurkers."
and
"Of the active players I reckon at least most are town."

??
There is interesting context behind that statement.

I believe it originates from a PM convo I shared with Aquanim.

<b>Aquanim[/b]
Feel free to cut in first.
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January 12 2014 09:41 GMT
#1090
Aquanim
In general: do you think drunk people would *NOT* post if they are scum?
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#1098
- 55 pages into the game
- PMs shared with half the thread
- Indepth live convos with Rayn + Marv

I have a strong town read on about 5 players and a weak town read on about 5 players. Names are not necessary.
I have about 5 players in the null territory. The remaining have either not posted based on IRL committments; or I think are scummy to varying degree.

Below are my top 2 scum reads
(1) Derrida
(2)Bumatlarge




Reasoning
Derrida
  • His first post mimics his first post as scum <-- from putting himself down, to, list posting
  • He specifies how important it is to make these connections based on coaching; yet spoilers this effort <<-- again degrading the work he is presenting/
  • His connection theory is purely a count of posts and detail of what others have called scum <<- there is zero effort put into interpreting this data/
  • When VE asks for a town read to be added. Derrida non-chalantly asks for details about a scum read <<- Derrida gives zero fucks about this game
  • Lastly, Derrida excuses himself of scum hunting in his first post stating he doesnt know people so can't do meta-reading <<- Clearly gives zero fucks about this game and is finding excuses to not contribute.


Bumatlarge
  • Has posted twice in the thead and has produced zero substance
  • HOWEVER, in PM land I received the following:

Original Message From bumatlarge:
You rang? Reading the thread.
Original Message From Mocsta:
Coolies

Do u think as jax I should stay at top?

Any thoughts in the mayor?
Original Message From bumatlarge:
Probs wave, pretty certain hes town by the way he entered the race. I don't think BH as mayor, but a mason would be a provable town, and we already have two of them. It would be pretty awful of both hopeful and BH to claim that as scum when they aren't in a strong position to win the race.
Original Message From Mocsta:
Who do u think wave should lynch.

I could swing his way
Original Message From bumatlarge:
Sry drunk PMs


I find this type of behaviour to be synonymous with mafia.
(1) Clearly Bum is up to date with the thread (he is aware of the masons afterall), and is choosing to be of no-value in thread (which perhaps its is fine, maybe he likes to be influential on the PM side)
(2) However, this clearly isn't the case. In PM Land once asked to put his cock on the block; Bum plays the "sry i shouldnt have been talking to you because I was drunk" card.


I want either of these 2 people lynched tomorrow.
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January 12 2014 10:14 GMT
#1099
FYI:

Aquanim asked me for my position on JAT.

"i am stil null on JAT.

Its correct he has not elucidated on a scum read <-- but that is normal for him.

I dont like his position on focusing on a mayor; because, I dont think his filter aligns with that. He is commenting on some random stuff here and there and does not seem to be probing the mayors (in thread at least). This is where it becomes difficult.

I think he is probably town if cotnacting potential mayor candidates in PM."

I am posting this, because i would like to confirm if he has contacted potential mayor cnadidates.
I am only aware of discourse shared with Thrawn.
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January 12 2014 10:31 GMT
#1104
On January 12 2014 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am lynching Derrida.

K

I SHOOT BUM

GG SCUM
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#1115
On January 12 2014 19:55 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 19:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand why this is this hard. There are a fuckton of people who have been present but done "no scumhunting".
Why is JAT scum over suchdoge, marvellosity, WoS, Mocsta, Koshi, etc.. Why you need to single out JAT and not other people?

Having a scumread on him because he hasn't done shit is okay, but why him and not those others?

Talked with marv and mocsta in PMs and I'm confident they're thinking about the game, hoping someone else who actually wants to deal with suchdoge in PMs will read him, have a slight townread on WoS (and he's pushing suchdoge, anyway, so your characterisation is inaccurate here), and I don't like Koshi's play so far either but I'll get to him later.

If I tried to push eight lurkers at once I wouldn't get anywhere. By pushing JAT alone I've drawn reactions from him and others and moved the thread forward.

(Before you ask, I'm not telling you everything I've learned from pushing JAT. Deal with it.)

You still haven't explained why you think VE's town.

I'm happy to discuss this publicly to aid my scumhunting cred points.

The line with Koshi is news to me. Can you walk me through this.
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January 12 2014 11:10 GMT
#1119
On January 12 2014 20:01 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 19:06 Mocsta wrote:
Below are my top 2 scum reads
(1) Derrida
(2)Bumatlarge




Reasoning
Derrida
  • His first post mimics his first post as scum <-- from putting himself down, to, list posting
  • He specifies how important it is to make these connections based on coaching; yet spoilers this effort <<-- again degrading the work he is presenting/
  • His connection theory is purely a count of posts and detail of what others have called scum <<- there is zero effort put into interpreting this data/
  • When VE asks for a town read to be added. Derrida non-chalantly asks for details about a scum read <<- Derrida gives zero fucks about this game
  • Lastly, Derrida excuses himself of scum hunting in his first post stating he doesnt know people so can't do meta-reading <<- Clearly gives zero fucks about this game and is finding excuses to not contribute.




Good read for most of the part. I am not scum but I am not able to give enough attention to the game due to some family issues, I am forced to be inactive (read, 2-3 not very detailed posts at most) for at least the next 24 hours. I wouldn't be too heartbroken if I get lynched, but don't really agree with your points that makes me seem more scummy than the other inactive people.

Derrida,

Firstly, thank you for taking the time to reply to this case under -what I can only assume to be- the strain of family matters.

Secondly, my case was never about activity -- which your rebuttle appears to address. My case was about your lack of case for this game (which you acknowledge via "Good read for the most part") -- I hope you realise I am calling you scum with this good read.

Thirdly, I am keen to hear more about the "points that make me seem more scummy than other inactive people" that you disagree.
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January 12 2014 11:13 GMT
#1120
On January 12 2014 20:10 Aquanim wrote:
I'm done with you Rayn. If somebody else thinks it's important to ask his questions, then say so and I'll answer them.

I've got one on Koshi above pls.

Regarding VE, hes not in my town list.
This convo should prob be in PMs. No need for one liners cluttering pages I thinks.
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January 12 2014 11:19 GMT
#1122
On January 12 2014 20:15 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 20:06 Mocsta wrote:
On January 12 2014 19:55 Aquanim wrote:
On January 12 2014 19:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand why this is this hard. There are a fuckton of people who have been present but done "no scumhunting".
Why is JAT scum over suchdoge, marvellosity, WoS, Mocsta, Koshi, etc.. Why you need to single out JAT and not other people?

Having a scumread on him because he hasn't done shit is okay, but why him and not those others?

Talked with marv and mocsta in PMs and I'm confident they're thinking about the game, hoping someone else who actually wants to deal with suchdoge in PMs will read him, have a slight townread on WoS (and he's pushing suchdoge, anyway, so your characterisation is inaccurate here), and I don't like Koshi's play so far either but I'll get to him later.

If I tried to push eight lurkers at once I wouldn't get anywhere. By pushing JAT alone I've drawn reactions from him and others and moved the thread forward.

(Before you ask, I'm not telling you everything I've learned from pushing JAT. Deal with it.)

You still haven't explained why you think VE's town.

I'm happy to discuss this publicly to aid my scumhunting cred points.

The line with Koshi is news to me. Can you walk me through this.

Same as JAT really, he's posted very little useful in the thread (this is his only post with any real content at all). Especially weird since my impression of Koshi is that he typically has a lot of thread presence.
I had this convo with a few people already.

Koshi is in my good bucket list (i wont extrapolate whether strong or weak).

His posting about the godfather theory in particular is an unusual position for mafia to take, especially given the in-game context.
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January 12 2014 11:20 GMT
#1123
Aquanim

What do you make of Derrida response to my case. Specifically him trying to make it synonymous with a lurker lynch.

Do you think a townie would respond in this fashion?
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January 12 2014 14:14 GMT
#1187
Suchdoge just scum claimed as far as I'm concerned.

One trivial point. He did log onto irc yesterday. I sent hello and then he left.
The trivial point being ragn +marv were online at the same time.
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January 12 2014 14:15 GMT
#1188
Where'd wos disappear???
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January 12 2014 14:20 GMT
#1192
On January 12 2014 23:19 Captain Obvious wrote:
I have news for thee, faithful citizens! The one named Koshi engaged me in personal messaging last day, but after some silly banter, has disappeared when prompted to give some opinions about the game! This is very unsettling.

I think u r getting confused with bumatlarge
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January 12 2014 14:23 GMT
#1197
On January 12 2014 23:21 suchdoge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 23:14 Mocsta wrote:
Suchdoge just scum claimed as far as I'm concerned.

One trivial point. He did log onto irc yesterday. I sent hello and then he left.
The trivial point being ragn +marv were online at the same time.


I already explained this. I'm on my phone, webchat times me out very fast. If I tab off (which ofc I'm going to do when I put the phone back in my pocket or whatever) then I get booted from irc.

If you want to talk to me just add me on Skype. suchdogemlg420

At least I can treat that like SMS.

So you want to talk about the scum claim on Skype instead of here?

Can't tell cos you avoided it all together
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January 12 2014 14:26 GMT
#1200
Doge.

Why are you sucking Marv's dick so hard by joining his wagon on xat.

He wants to lynch you.

Are you planning to address the issue he outlined.
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January 12 2014 14:29 GMT
#1204
So doge.. Am I town or scum then.
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January 12 2014 14:48 GMT
#1210
On January 12 2014 23:29 Mocsta wrote:
So doge.. Am I town or scum then.

Woof woof

Where the doge go?
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January 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#1570
U fuckn idiots.
Lynching Xat

Jesus Christ, I thought you want to win the game.
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January 13 2014 01:03 GMT
#1576
##Shoot: Alakaslam
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January 13 2014 01:05 GMT
#1578
Im pretty sure I have to PM it, so all is good.
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#1582
On January 11 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Make me mayor and I'll lynch kush d1.

/thread


I don't really think you're a good candidate. Last time around you were confirmed town and just went all-in on a lurker. You might do the same thing here, as town or scum, and it would be a one-way ticket for a loss.

This kinda ties in with BH mason claim ringing true.
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January 13 2014 01:18 GMT
#1584
On January 11 2014 12:01 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 11:44 Aquanim wrote:
Hi. I have no desire to be mayor. There, that's out of the way.

On January 11 2014 11:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Until someone provides a real reason to be elected they shouldn't be considered.

What do you consider a real reason to be elected?



Why do you have no desire to become a Mayor?

This is an odd post for Xat to make, considering his approach to BH regarding mayor candidacy.
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#1585
On January 12 2014 01:35 Xatalos wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
rayn: you never answered about why you would have blues claim to an unconfirmed Mayor. Why?

I really dislike BH's sudden switch from all-in on kush to supporting DrH. He claims to still lobby for lynching kush, but his attitude is different from Titanic II, where he went all-in on xigxag (a lurker). He's much less vocal about his preferred tunnel and partly drops it very suddenly. I disagree with his tunneling attitude in general, but more strongly I dislike his quick attitude switch and the weak conviction behind the original tunnel.

Aquanim looks shady from what little there is in his filter. He claims disinterest in becoming a Mayor, makes some general one-liner questions and then these:

On January 11 2014 22:09 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Agreed with Mocsta, suchdoge is the scummiest person in the thread.

D'you reckon you can explain this to me? That long post of his looks like it was written pregame, and therefore doesn't tell me much regarding his alignment. He's also expressed a desire to talk with people (specifically VE) which isn't the most intuitive thing I'd expect a scum smurf to do.

If he thinks that long post is sufficient contribution for the day I'll agree with you that he's likely scum - but I don't see any reason to believe yet that there won't be more material forthcoming from him.

Is there anything else making you lean scum on him? Convince me.


On January 11 2014 22:22 Aquanim wrote:
Yeah OK lemme rephrase that. I don't think you wrote the post pregame, but it contains next to no commitments to what you think anybody's alignments are, which would make my read on you much more solid. Now if you're still playing games in PMs and trying to work out people's alingments, and you don't want to reveal your work yet, that's fine - but I'm hoping that sooner or later you will show your working, so to speak.


A really lackluster and factually false first argument, then a barely better follow-up. This is as non-committal as can be. I see this much more likely coming from scum than town. I had the impression that Aquanim was supposed to be good as town?

I also really dislike mkfuba07's entrance into the thread:

On January 11 2014 12:32 mkfuba07 wrote:
Hiya :D

I, as well, am not running for mayor.

If I had to vote now, it would likely be for DrH. At the moment it's much a gut feeling, but it was my thought before reading BH's PM. I like his promises if he is going to keep them, even though I'm sure they would be directed at me at some point because of the way I play. Now I just need to make sure I feel he's going to keep them.

BH, is there a reason you cut off a bit of your PM when you copied it?


This is an extremely safe opening post that doesn't really say anything. It looks constructed with a greeting, a short show of support for the most reasonable Mayor campaigner at the time, and a trivial question at the end. Then complete silence.

suchdoge had a big opening post that said a lot of nothing. Then he proceeded to disappear into TeamSpeak or something. suchdoge, you can't use PM's anymore? If so, I really want you to post in the thread. You're impossible to read as of now. With that said, I doubt scum would just completely disappear from the thread like that.
hmm take that back.
Looks like he really tried to shit on aquanim based on the mayor thing.

Carry on ignoring me pls.
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January 13 2014 05:00 GMT
#1618
Wow. ThY is the crux on Ve scum read on me.

##shoot: visceraeyes

Be scared.
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January 13 2014 05:06 GMT
#1620
Nah. He don't want to copy me thrawn.

Pugh that reminds me. I gotta read those logs. Forgot
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January 13 2014 05:42 GMT
#1626
Yeah I'm not sold on mig either.

His post came out when thread sentiment was clearly laid out.

Want to see more for sure.
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January 13 2014 06:12 GMT
#1629
Damn.. I was considering shooting thrawn.
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January 13 2014 09:32 GMT
#1646
Well thrawn was already townie but this makes him confirmed for me.

Over the past 24hrs he keeps being suspicious of u. Then allayed. Then suspicious.

That paranoia is too hard to fake.


Dr.h just pm Me asking me not to vig Ve cos "other" vig is all over him
Trololololol
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January 13 2014 09:58 GMT
#1656
On January 13 2014 18:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 18:32 Mocsta wrote:
Well thrawn was already townie but this makes him confirmed for me.

Over the past 24hrs he keeps being suspicious of u. Then allayed. Then suspicious.

That paranoia is too hard to fake.


Dr.h just pm Me asking me not to vig Ve cos "other" vig is all over him
Trololololol

Isn't it better for town not to doubleshoot? ve is my top scumread too, I don't see what's funny.

lol

why would i be the vig.. im clearly trolling

....
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January 13 2014 10:04 GMT
#1659
The problem I have with Aquanim is he is suspicious to me (at times) in a "dont wear pants on head type of way"; nothing has struck me as promoting scum agenda.
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January 13 2014 10:05 GMT
#1660
have = have had
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January 13 2014 10:35 GMT
#1666
On January 13 2014 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 19:04 Mocsta wrote:
The problem I have with Aquanim is he is suspicious to me (at times) in a "dont wear pants on head type of way"; nothing has struck me as promoting scum agenda.

It's the way he posts. He has really good posts. Especially lately.

Im not following the point of this post.

I was stating why Aqua is a townish read to me. You seem to be supporting that argument?
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January 13 2014 11:29 GMT
#1680
On January 13 2014 20:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 18:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Everyone in this game should claim to marv.

This.

All blues should claim to me. Then mafia cannot fakeclaim at all later in the game. One more way we restrict their possibilities.

Also it would be sweet having a vet bodyguard

But I cant talk to you.

Too bad
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January 13 2014 11:53 GMT
#1696
nice post koshi about ve/WoS./

I was gonna shoot VE, but if the other vig is on him. I go for WoS.

its the inflections in the voice I tell you !
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January 13 2014 13:40 GMT
#1708
On January 13 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos was really concerned about the blues claiming to the mayor so lets do the opposite and have all blues claim to the mayor.

Vig!
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January 13 2014 16:05 GMT
#1716
On January 14 2014 00:57 Mig wrote:
Unquestionably everyone should claim to marv. If you look at the marv/xata interactions around page 60 and then marv's hesitation to lynch him right before deadline, he would have to be a pretty godly actor to be mafia. By claiming to him he will be able to organize all the blues to use their powers correctly and will know who to pick as his bgs. Worst case scenario in the 1/1000 chance marv is somehow mafia we can always rethink things if all the blues start immediately dying, but seems very unlikely.

awesome original content mig

man i wish you were here so i could've voted you as mayor.
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January 13 2014 16:09 GMT
#1718
On January 14 2014 01:08 Mig wrote:
I talked to marv about this last night before sleeping and before anyone had posted it in the thread mocsta! Just echoing it incase some people were hesitant.

I am aware of more than you might think.
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January 13 2014 16:12 GMT
#1720
On January 14 2014 01:11 Koshi wrote:
↑ wow these kids showing off they talked to marv

^
|

im so jealous of ya wingdings

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January 14 2014 00:38 GMT
#1943
On January 14 2014 09:11 bumatlarge wrote:
I guess I need to post more here.

I'm pretty against lynching WoS at the moment. I want to talk with him more, but I find his mentality fairly townie. Opting in and out of the mayor race is very conscious of the town atmosphere. The accusations that came with his candidacy were based on something I felt was town.

I also think this would be particularly bold of scum to do:

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:43 marvellosity wrote:
Kinda wavering on my early town read of Xatalos too.

I have Xatalos as town. If anything the early part of his filter looks worse than the latter part to me so I'm not sure why an early townread.


Not sure if Scum Wave would be prepared for the pressure that comes with making such a post knowing Xatalos is scum.

The log between WoS/VE actually changed my perspective on WoS.

Yes its selfish and the world revolves around me: but the way WoS referenced me sounded like he was genuinely piecing the puzzle together.

VE on the other hand should be certainly scum.

Its quite clear that all he does is echo the sentiments of WoS for each topic raised.
Another point in WoS favour is that he has to re-ask things of VE as well.



The corollary: Given my read of WoS currently, and my previous read on Bum + the new information on Bum from Suchdoge.

I think this post from Bum is extremely opportune to set himself up for some cred if WoS flips town.

Me no likey, and Im happy for this guy to be one of the next 2 guys lynched (VE first, then Bum)
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January 14 2014 00:38 GMT
#1944
On January 14 2014 09:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Bum is a mason with me and hopeless1

ohh my....

ninja'd.. i see
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January 14 2014 00:42 GMT
#1951
On January 14 2014 09:40 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 09:37 marvellosity wrote:
The question is gumshoe: how on earth are you going to stop me lynching you, because i really want to


Oh you can, its not like I'll be doing much more dead than I am alive and I have certainly not played pro town this game. Of course there is precedent for me doing this as town (double precedent in fact) your still free to lynch me, you just wont be getting the result you want ) :

Gumshoe, do you think as town you would say this in voice?
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January 14 2014 00:44 GMT
#1953
On January 14 2014 09:41 Coagulation wrote:
mocsta tell me more about how bum is scum

It could be a pants on head thing.

I dont like how he keeps fishing for information, and then avoids giving his own opinion.

Hes done it to me + doge.

I just cant understand him; I cant understand the motives for his actions; nor the objectives of his posts.
Currently I am attributing that as mafia struggling to contribute.

I only have LoL to compare to, where town Bum was open with his thoughts regardless of how useful or useless they were.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 00:53 GMT
#1970
On January 14 2014 09:48 suchdoge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 09:45 marvellosity wrote:
Townread on Mocsta retracted

not reading the thread at all


you just realised this?

guy has done nothing all game.



But I <3 you doge
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 00:54 GMT
#1972
Doge,

what do you make of the difference in opinion between JAT/Marv regarding my post whilst reading behaviour.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:03 GMT
#1992
Can we please move on.

Hosts have final say and we have already seen their alignment, so its not like we can turn back the decision.

I suggest this convo be continued POST-GAME in the ban thread or whatever.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 01:08 GMT
#2007
On January 14 2014 10:07 Coagulation wrote:
can we restart the game?

im vanilla and its boring.

Lol... i love this post.

I wanna restart as well.. man rolling scum 2 games ina row... sucks balls big time.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:16 GMT
#2025
At least I was right about WoS.. feel better now.

Lets move on chaps.

Doge and Thrawn make some sense. They were both really townie.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 01:22 GMT
#2033
I voted no. I don't feel like trolling all over again.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:24 GMT
#2039
On January 14 2014 10:23 Captain Obvious wrote:
From: LSB [ 4334 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Doc stuff
Date: 1/14/14 10:16
fk sorry wasn't paying attention

Original Message From Captain Obvious:
Protecting suchdoge.

Yeah....I'm a doc and protected suchdoge but it didn't go through. Sorry LSB but that's just too much.

If this is true... thats total bullshit

and its a full PM share, which I assume is bannable.

I have no reason to doubt this.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 01:24 GMT
#2043
rom: LSB [ 4335 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: XLIV Role
Date: 1/11/14 08:11
Vigilante
You are a town Vigilante. You have one bullets that you may use to shoot people at night. You get your bullet refunded if you are roleblocked, but in no other circumstances.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:24 GMT
#2045
I DIDNT SHOOT WAVE.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:27 GMT
#2057
On January 14 2014 10:26 Mig wrote:
games over, the mason thing maybe I could deal with but missed doc coverage on top definitely too much.

Agreed


Can we get the damn scum team pls.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 01:27 GMT
#2061
On January 14 2014 10:26 marvellosity wrote:
BC totes mafia

agreed
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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Last Edited: 2014-01-14 01:29:04
January 14 2014 01:28 GMT
#2066
lol
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:30 GMT
#2076
So derrida was scum !! thank god

Kush played really well.. Congrats.. thats the biggest sleeper for me.

Jat was def lynchable.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 01:33 GMT
#2089
Kush is scum MVP.

I had zero idea on that guy fark.. scary.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:34 GMT
#2091
On January 14 2014 10:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 10:31 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, I really fucked this one up guys. I'm sorry. I'll do better going forwards.

on that note

Poll: Did BH Fuck up?

Yes (10)
 
91%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Did BH Fuck up?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Yes,

regardless of whether the mechanism was weird or not.

The host gave warnings.

In the end BH is the biggest advocate of playing within the realm allowed by the host.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 01:36 GMT
#2103
On January 14 2014 10:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Easy to say that now, isn't it?

Lol.. its easy to have that opinion. You were hotly discussed in PM land. (and im not just referring to aqunim)
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:50 GMT
#2147
On January 14 2014 10:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
i wish I was scum this game because i infiltrated so many PM circles

I doubt you woulda done it as scum.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 01:52 GMT
#2149
PM conversation I had:
MOCSTA:
Bitch,

why you taking the game so serious?

KUSH:
it's cause im scum. dont tell anyone lol

MOCSTA:
LOL

funniest thing is.. its possible its true. and even so, no1 would believe me hahah

But if you are scum; why are you giving away town reads?

KUSH:
easier to give town reads cause they are true. maybe it's not smart but it's easy
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 01:57 GMT
#2163
On January 14 2014 10:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Yep

Half of me wanted to Hold my shot and see if BH would make a last minute read

Now I know future policy if i know BH is town

I held my shot.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 03:18 GMT
#2186
Tell that to derrida who spoke about it first lol.

I was the only person that could make that argument anyways.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 06:43 GMT
#2203
So.. do I get to log this as a win in the database??
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 07:25 GMT
#2207
Wow
Jat takes his scum games too srs

Btw I was talking to you yesterday very carefully. Which will indicate you were not a town read.

With wave dead . The only thong u guys had was a Ve mislynch and kush .

Kush is worth a lot of points I admit, bit I had a spare vig shot too.

Game was deffo town favoured too as roles weren't scaled accordingly
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 08:00 GMT
#2212
Pm games fun. But I would be demotivated if I rolled scum in this setup. No interest to play restart.

I dunno if gum would be lynched. He was def pants on head syndrome. Hmm ok. He prob would be lynched but not before derrida
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 08:15 GMT
#2214
No. I thought u were town for approaching me actually so quickly.

But I was trolling lol

Note the sarcasm.

The posts with jat are very different.
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 08:22 GMT
#2218
On January 14 2014 17:18 justanothertownie wrote:
I knew you didn't trust me but I had no idea what to do about it.

U had to answer my questions and make me think u cared.

I do think u were nailed for the approach to the mayor. Even though u ended up in pm with them, the thread actions didn't support it.

All good anyways. U were the only guy I rhymed to.
So well earned haha


Ohh and thrawn was a pm fiend . Absolutely. Scary stuff what that guy knew.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 08:32 GMT
#2221
On January 14 2014 17:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 17:18 justanothertownie wrote:
You both were a pain in pms to be honest.


I was nice to you! Mocsta was the baddie

Yeah I dis like the early throw to
Scum-mato lol
Still makes me chuckle
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 08:32 GMT
#2222
Dis =did
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 08:47 GMT
#2224
OK champ
Mocsta
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January 14 2014 08:49 GMT
#2228
On January 14 2014 17:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 17:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 14 2014 17:47 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 14 2014 17:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2014 17:18 justanothertownie wrote:
You both were a pain in pms to be honest.


I was nice to you! Mocsta was the baddie


I actually really liked thrawn in pms. I became several times more effective this game just from talking to him

This is somehow frightening.


i mean not taking into account the whole modkills thing

That's still frightening.

I have no idea why u stopped pm me. I gave u my reads and then u disappeared
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 09:46 GMT
#2231
Yeah that strategy was really good thrawn.

I think we did it together with aquanim and jat.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 11:37 GMT
#2235
Without emotional flippancy pop

What about the chat u had with me on irc when the mod kills came lol
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
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January 14 2014 12:15 GMT
#2237
Done n done hahah

p.s.

posting before fully reading/catching up is certainly not a scum or town indicator.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 15 2014 02:11 GMT
#2261
Geript,

Do not despair. Scum tactics have kicked in and they are trying to spam you away.

I shall come to the towns rescue.

On January 15 2014 05:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
Though its not my call, I wouldnt have a problem with BH receiving a warning. If BH was to receive a ban, I'd have a problem with it. At any rate, until LSB decides he wants to take action, its not for us to discuss.
On January 15 2014 05:36 geript wrote:
Why would a ban be out of the question? Why wouldn't it be for everyone to discuss? How is breaking the rules, especially rules that are pretty commonly held between games, not ban worthy? Even if you make the argument that BH wasn't trying to break the game, you can't deny that forcing the mod to either modconfirm 3 players or modkill 3 players ruins a game; not just for himself but for everyone involved? I've gotten 2 different bans for ragequitting neither of which directly affected other players. How is it that BH gets a complete pass here?
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