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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 24 2013 00:36 GMT
#7
it seems rude to not appear in the sequel...

/in
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 09 2013 20:57 GMT
#152
my favorite boat is the S.S. Anne
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 09 2013 21:54 GMT
#192
On July 27 2013 10:24 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Alright men. I have successfully managed to get on board, and I have a feeling that the captain of this ship is a complete imbecile and needs to be replaced. Therefore, I plan to democratically elect myself to be captain.

##Captain: Captain Jack Sparrow

I promise you that good things will happen if you all do this. What could go wrong? I'm Captain Jack Sparrow!

On another note, lynching a lurker sounds like a great plan if we all want to get thrown off the boat. I don't want to get thrown off the boat, I'm a wanted man in the water, and it's always really cold, and there's no rum. But worse of all, there is no rum out in the middle of nowhere. So I think Oatsmaster has to try a bit harder to come up with a half-functioning plan.


lynching lurkers was also the way he started titanic one, and he was scum there
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 09 2013 21:57 GMT
#195
im not going to vote you just off that of course, but I will see how the day develops. on the road again and then i will post more
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 09 2013 23:27 GMT
#285
##vote: alakaslam

i see ha has learned nothing from the last game, strictly a policy lynch. He spams the thread which I have a bigger problem with then being useful.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 00:15 GMT
#323
I would rather enjoy myself and lose then not enjoy it, hence why I am voting you alakaslam, scum or not. I do not care about lynching scum if im not having fun in the first place, that comes first.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 02:04 GMT
#341
what word did you mean to write?

and yea the first thing I thought of while reading that sidesprang post is "lol going to keep an eye on him after I get rid of the less desirables"
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 03:47 GMT
#364
I think 3 of the 4 scum has posted, one is still lurking
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 03:49 GMT
#366
one scum in xigxag/bumatlarge/grackaroni/JJD or shots on me
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 06:53 GMT
#432
not to mention that in TL Noire before kush got replaced out he was playing this lurky playstyle thing and his slot was scum
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 07:13 GMT
#439
On December 10 2013 16:03 xigxag wrote:
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On December 10 2013 15:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
not to mention that in TL Noire before kush got replaced out he was playing this lurky playstyle thing and his slot was scum


Like these high quality posts which were all attempts at looking like he was doing something. And not at all similar to how he has been posting this game?

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On September 21 2013 11:35 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck it makes me really mad when people policy vote me! like it makes me want to troll just to spite them.


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On September 21 2013 12:39 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:28 kushm4sta wrote:
um by scumhunting as a team you mean having a conversation between the two of you that no one else wants to read? if so please dont

Just make the meta case and stfu before you do so.


how the fuck do i make a case on someone when it's like an hour into the game??


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On September 22 2013 11:29 kushm4sta wrote:
also when is the lynch



Noire was before ##. In Noire he was still angry. During the course of the ## game he took a step back and posts much more docile now.

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 07:31 GMT
#451
Don't really think much of anything right now, just memory banking everything for later and keeping an eye out for fake looking conversations. I always come back to day 1 later
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 07:33 GMT
#453
I will say though that playing as scum last game you probably realize that Slam basically adds another scum to the game as either alignment. So I'm fine with lynching him regardless unless something very convincing goes down.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 07:38 GMT
#459
On December 10 2013 16:34 xigxag wrote:
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On December 10 2013 16:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will say though that playing as scum last game you probably realize that Slam basically adds another scum to the game as either alignment. So I'm fine with lynching him regardless unless something very convincing goes down.


Why do you prefer a policy lynch on Alakaslam over an attempt to lynch scum. What benefit do you see town gaining from this policy lynch over an honest attempt to find scum.


On December 10 2013 09:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
I would rather enjoy myself and lose then not enjoy it, hence why I am voting you alakaslam, scum or not. I do not care about lynching scum if im not having fun in the first place, that comes first.



add in the fact that he goes out of his way to make it very difficult to win as town. A town alakaslam lynch is still a good lynch, I stand by that after last game
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 07:46 GMT
#467
I will clarify the ## thing, as it's a case of timeline

Noire was played, kush did his thing etc

## was played after it, which is the game that kush decided to stop posting angrily and take it easy

So that is why comparing his playstyle to pre- ## and post ## is not a good idea atm
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 08:02 GMT
#475
On December 10 2013 16:52 xigxag wrote:
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On December 10 2013 16:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will clarify the ## thing, as it's a case of timeline

Noire was played, kush did his thing etc

## was played after it, which is the game that kush decided to stop posting angrily and take it easy

So that is why comparing his playstyle to pre- ## and post ## is not a good idea atm


So why did you bring it up as a comparison? What is it you were trying to convey with the reference to that game and immediate retraction of the same.

Look Plutarch. I would like to think you are scum for this but I don't. Which means you are trying to incite an angry response from me to see how genuine my emotions feel. Cool. Since you seem town and I am town can I suggest that if you truly think I am scum you don't post useless one liners about it. They damage thread atmosphere and will not help an eventual town victory. If you truly think I am scum make a case and convince others. While you do that I am going to continue to try to figure out if what Vayne is doing is because he is scum or because I have no idea how his brain works.


Because I was showing you why a lurky kush playstyle is not necessarily town. An attitude adjustment and a playstyle are quite different things
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 20:26 GMT
#835
remember that pandain is in college and probably taking finals right now, so I expect him to be pretty afk regardless of alignment
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2013 20:33 GMT
#840
On December 11 2013 05:29 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On December 11 2013 05:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
remember that pandain is in college and probably taking finals right now, so I expect him to be pretty afk regardless of alignment
Got any reads?


I'd venture to say plutarch is town, that's about it right now. The town is being pulled into too many directions to discern who is scum without some flips.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 01:28 GMT
#889
Not to mention he isn't close to getting lynched at all, because TL towns don't have the balls to go through with these kind of lynches. He will survive to endgame as usual.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 01:36 GMT
#892
On December 11 2013 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 11 2013 10:24 LSB wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:06 LSB wrote:
Probably I should include a reasoning:
Should Alakaslam continue with his play it will be incredibly difficult to get a correct read from Alakaslam or any player he 'pressures'. I don't want to waste a DT check on him, nor do I want to have him at LYLO.

I am of the belief that unless a seriously good candidate comes up, the day one lynch is probably the best time to get rid of lurkers/noncontributors.


Question. Would scum alakaslam continue posting in this manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

By that same logic would town alakaslam continue posting in the manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

He has chosen a way to play and hopefully we can discourage him from continuing with it


That's what I'm getting at, since we called him out on hit he actually switched his playstyle to a more coherent one and contributed and then reverted back to the old play intertwined with it. I see that as more of a wanting to use a strategy to discover information than survival tactics.


depends on how you look at it.

He reverted out of it once he picked up 2 quick votes and people were talking about maybe voting for him. When everything breezed over he went back to trolling. It can be twisted anyway you want it to be. From the story I just told, that's survival tactics.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 02:11 GMT
#896
On December 11 2013 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 11 2013 10:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:24 LSB wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:06 LSB wrote:
Probably I should include a reasoning:
Should Alakaslam continue with his play it will be incredibly difficult to get a correct read from Alakaslam or any player he 'pressures'. I don't want to waste a DT check on him, nor do I want to have him at LYLO.

I am of the belief that unless a seriously good candidate comes up, the day one lynch is probably the best time to get rid of lurkers/noncontributors.


Question. Would scum alakaslam continue posting in this manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

By that same logic would town alakaslam continue posting in the manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

He has chosen a way to play and hopefully we can discourage him from continuing with it


That's what I'm getting at, since we called him out on hit he actually switched his playstyle to a more coherent one and contributed and then reverted back to the old play intertwined with it. I see that as more of a wanting to use a strategy to discover information than survival tactics.


depends on how you look at it.

He reverted out of it once he picked up 2 quick votes and people were talking about maybe voting for him. When everything breezed over he went back to trolling. It can be twisted anyway you want it to be. From the story I just told, that's survival tactics.


Well I'd agree but the last 2 pages of his filter are coherent and thoughts, it is only that last post that was quoted that was an out of the blue revert but as LSB said that was to illicit a reaction out of someone (stop ruining plans lsb)! So, in actuality he is contributing - or more to the fact that he isn't being detrimental like he was at the start.


? i read it and it's just him spamming ice or talking about the definition of trolling and one post where he says to lynch kush. not exactly coherent I'd say
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 02:55 GMT
#908
On December 11 2013 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 11 2013 11:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:24 LSB wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:06 LSB wrote:
Probably I should include a reasoning:
Should Alakaslam continue with his play it will be incredibly difficult to get a correct read from Alakaslam or any player he 'pressures'. I don't want to waste a DT check on him, nor do I want to have him at LYLO.

I am of the belief that unless a seriously good candidate comes up, the day one lynch is probably the best time to get rid of lurkers/noncontributors.


Question. Would scum alakaslam continue posting in this manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

By that same logic would town alakaslam continue posting in the manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

He has chosen a way to play and hopefully we can discourage him from continuing with it


That's what I'm getting at, since we called him out on hit he actually switched his playstyle to a more coherent one and contributed and then reverted back to the old play intertwined with it. I see that as more of a wanting to use a strategy to discover information than survival tactics.


depends on how you look at it.

He reverted out of it once he picked up 2 quick votes and people were talking about maybe voting for him. When everything breezed over he went back to trolling. It can be twisted anyway you want it to be. From the story I just told, that's survival tactics.


Well I'd agree but the last 2 pages of his filter are coherent and thoughts, it is only that last post that was quoted that was an out of the blue revert but as LSB said that was to illicit a reaction out of someone (stop ruining plans lsb)! So, in actuality he is contributing - or more to the fact that he isn't being detrimental like he was at the start.


? i read it and it's just him spamming ice or talking about the definition of trolling and one post where he says to lynch kush. not exactly coherent I'd say



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On December 10 2013 19:45 Alakaslam wrote:
I feel kind of indignant. I thought my posts had almost too obvious meaning.

I mean really...

Anyway, how I gather a read. The way I gather reads needed(eeds) to change. Past methods weren't working, I am too stoic and bland and always wrong. I gotta shake things up or start co-hosting, and if I can't understand playing the game I won't be any good at balance.

Xigxag, I wish I was quoting literature so that I could respond appropriately but I am wholly oblivious. If my light in a glass looks like Edison's work, let me assure you I am French. I am winging practically everything I say to maintain relevancy to this game.


Do scum admit they are winging everything they say?

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On December 11 2013 03:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh hello he had to go.

Well, bumatlarge, maybe I will ask you this: does spaghetticus/xata interactions with the flaming fury maker (sorry) tell of anything at all? I am wanting to look at this as well. See what folks think.


Also, I was the first to ask for a votecount. Does this strike you as alignment indicative, are you certain my filter is "shit"? Care to check it out?


If anything it looks like slam is genuinely in a struggle to get to grips with how to recover back to townie status. I like his general direction from the end of page 3 to now. He is showing that he is willing to drop his previous state to get into the game rather than continue with an act that nobody liked. While certain aspects need to be polished, I don't think he's a great lynch for today.


to your first question, I wing everything I say regardless of alignment so I don't see how that is relevant. That's more of a personal choice to overthink things or just type.

I think anyone would want to be considered town regardless of alignment and this is my theory:

His scum team started yelling at him to stop fucking around in his chat

or he is simply town and doesn't want to get lynched, because who does?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 03:01 GMT
#911
I would say that coming out of his persona is pretty scummy but I digress. It's more then a policy lynch from me at this point. He didn't even break persona in Time To Die after being asked to many times. The fact that he broke here so easily leads me to believe that he is not the same alignment.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:03 GMT
#935
I hope he flips town so I am actually justified in saying that he is hindering the game. If he's scum he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Read that portal game by greymist if you want to see how hard it is to lynch this guy as scum. His entire team bussed him and he still barely got lynched. nuff said.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:10 GMT
#940
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:11 GMT
#941
As I said earlier, this isn't policy lynch anymore btw. I am now starting a real discussion on why he is a good lynch.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:27 GMT
#948
I was waiting for the jabs at people going on the slam lynch. it's not scummy at all. Don't make it out to be something it isn't
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:31 GMT
#953
On December 11 2013 13:29 Pandain wrote:
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On December 11 2013 13:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
I was waiting for the jabs at people going on the slam lynch. it's not scummy at all. Don't make it out to be something it isn't

It's scummy as shit if you aren't clearly aggravated and have reads, actual reads, like holy has.

We are 46 pages in, one guy out of 18 isn't a big deal and he's probably town

Coming from someone who is often the target of policy lynches I'm surprised at your approach


how many times have I been lynched? Point made

Scum isn't going to kill slam for us. he will never go away and always linger as we get closer to lylo.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:34 GMT
#956
Let's try this the other way around

can anyone explain to me why alakaslam will not flip scum besides probability? that's one thing he has going for him.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:43 GMT
#964
Not everyone's primary language is english as this is a world site. I can barely understand him (if at all) as a native english speaker.

What is there to be gained by not lynching him pandain btw? I am approaching it from your side now. Why is alakaslam a bad lynch?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:45 GMT
#966
I find holy's reasoning or lack of it townie considering I found him to be a paranoid player from the time to die scum qt. he would not let something like that tarnish his image as scum. He just spent pages arguing against a slam lynch and then opts to vote him. does he do that as scum? doubtful.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:55 GMT
#973
oh so he was being self aware. nevermind, null.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 05:15 GMT
#980
LOL.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 05:20 GMT
#981
i dont know what made you change my mind, that post is just as riddled. made my head hurt to read it since I thought it would be good
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 06:52 GMT
#992
aren't they OMGUS'ing eachother? pretty sure they both want to lynch the other
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 07:04 GMT
#996
I even explained why pandain was not in the thread, so yea that is fairly suspicious. I would have to go back and look at the timeline and see if he kept posting about pandain being the biggest lurker after I explained why
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 07:08 GMT
#998
ok so what I see is that he ignored my post so either not reading the thread or just choose to ignore it, idk which and don't really care not too relevant.

He then decides pandain is going to get replaced and not modkilled so he unvotes, so im leaning towards he isn't reading the thread. So I guess it doesn't mean much.

BUT, he now wants to go back to lynching pandain despite it being abundantly clear that he won't be lurking anymore now.

Last part is what needs to be explained
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:07 GMT
#1142
it's easy to think I was the towniest person in a game, understandable
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:11 GMT
#1146
i'm gonna NK alakaslam
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:14 GMT
#1149
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:16 GMT
#1154
yes, because he doesn't actually post things that can be read. The only time he will ever get lynched is if his entire team throws him under the bus for cred like in portal
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:20 GMT
#1157
On December 12 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 12 2013 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.

That's actually quite an interesting comment Vayne.
What you very well know is that even if Slam doesn't get lynched he will most likely get shot on N1. Why would you not help get rid of him as scum, regardless of his alignment?


On December 11 2013 13:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.


I've already pretty much answered all of this
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:28 GMT
#1164
On December 12 2013 02:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On December 12 2013 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.
Is there that much of a difference between him making shitposts so he can't be read and you refusing to play or give your thoughts on anyone?

You're being just as useless.


then policy lynch me.
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December 11 2013 17:29 GMT
#1166
On December 12 2013 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 12 2013 02:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.

That's actually quite an interesting comment Vayne.
What you very well know is that even if Slam doesn't get lynched he will most likely get shot on N1. Why would you not help get rid of him as scum, regardless of his alignment?


On December 11 2013 13:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.


I've already pretty much answered all of this

In this game the thread sentiment actually suggests vigi's WILL shoot useless people. Let's consider a scenario where you are scum.

If Slam is scum you:
1) can reasonably assume a vigi will shoot him on N1 anyways so
2) when you lynch him instead you gain towncredit
3) even if you don't succeed, you gain town credit when he flips red
4) you don't need to contribute anything useful

If Slam is town you:
1) can't be held responsible for anything scummy because it's a pro-town thing to suggest a policy lynch on him anyways
2) you don't need to contribute anything useful

So, why again is it unreasonable to assume you would vouch for his lynch as mafia?


because I would never, ever help town get rid of somebody so detrimental to town. He adds another scumplayer to my team, why would I want to get rid of him ever? I could just sheep you on spag or something dumb like that. I know exactly what it looks like.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:33 GMT
#1169
On December 12 2013 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 12 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.

That's actually quite an interesting comment Vayne.
What you very well know is that even if Slam doesn't get lynched he will most likely get shot on N1. Why would you not help get rid of him as scum, regardless of his alignment?


On December 11 2013 13:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.


I've already pretty much answered all of this

In this game the thread sentiment actually suggests vigi's WILL shoot useless people. Let's consider a scenario where you are scum.

If Slam is scum you:
1) can reasonably assume a vigi will shoot him on N1 anyways so
2) when you lynch him instead you gain towncredit
3) even if you don't succeed, you gain town credit when he flips red
4) you don't need to contribute anything useful

If Slam is town you:
1) can't be held responsible for anything scummy because it's a pro-town thing to suggest a policy lynch on him anyways
2) you don't need to contribute anything useful

So, why again is it unreasonable to assume you would vouch for his lynch as mafia?


because I would never, ever help town get rid of somebody so detrimental to town. He adds another scumplayer to my team, why would I want to get rid of him ever? I could just sheep you on spag or something dumb like that. I know exactly what it looks like.

Fair enough, just wanted to be sure what you meant.
Are you suggesting Spaghetticus is town?


Yea he was one of the first to want to lynch Slam so I have him as town until further notice.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:39 GMT
#1172
it's not ridiculous at all if you consider how I play mafia. I KILL these kind of players at night because I find it more enjoyable to play with people that can actually scumhunt and try to trick them. Between that and my blue kill sniping I don't see how it is farfetch'd at all.
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December 11 2013 17:51 GMT
#1180
where is the contradiction?

You know that I'm pushing him as a mislynch in the thread, killing him as a night kill is pure WIFOM. Completely unrelated.
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December 11 2013 17:56 GMT
#1185
at any rate, look into lynching kush and rayn after this considering they both claim to be able to read me, my last post
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December 11 2013 18:40 GMT
#1218
it's not because spag is scum, it's because rayn is scum. lynch him after I'm proven town.
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December 11 2013 18:44 GMT
#1223
On December 12 2013 02:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On December 12 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.

That's actually quite an interesting comment Vayne.
What you very well know is that even if Slam doesn't get lynched he will most likely get shot on N1. Why would you not help get rid of him as scum, regardless of his alignment?


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On December 11 2013 13:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.


I've already pretty much answered all of this
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December 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#1225
On December 12 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 12 2013 03:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
it's not because spag is scum, it's because rayn is scum. lynch him after I'm proven town.

Dude i am not scum. You know i like to vote and pressure people with voting. You just left the statement unanswered and claimed you will not post any more rayn and kush iare scum ggnore. What does that accomplish?

I don't care about Slam. He'll get vigged unless the vigi is retarded. I would like you to explain the statement because i really do not understand why you did say what you did. Also could you tell who is mafia?


you either lied about learning anything from bttb and time to die or are scum, as far as im concerned. You are making cases on the same stupid shit that is completely meaningless. reminds me of your lonemeow case.
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December 11 2013 18:47 GMT
#1227
not to mention that it isn't even a contradiction to begin with, YOU SEE ME GETTING RID OF ALAKASLAM IN THE THREAD. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT RID OF HIM IF I'M MAFIA. good lord.
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December 11 2013 18:52 GMT
#1235
On December 12 2013 03:51 Grackaroni wrote:
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On December 12 2013 03:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
not to mention that it isn't even a contradiction to begin with, YOU SEE ME GETTING RID OF ALAKASLAM IN THE THREAD. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT RID OF HIM IF I'M MAFIA. good lord.

it is a contradiction if you say you are town for getting rid of the 4th mafia and that you would leave him in as scum. Then you admit that you would get rid of him because you like a real game. Night killing him for the hell of it is no different than lynching him for the hell of it when you could get a better lynch from 'dumping your vote on spaghetti"


I don't think you realize the difference between pushing somebody in thread and night killing them. Hint: one can be seen by everybody, the other cannot.

Lmao
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December 11 2013 18:57 GMT
#1238
well at this rate neither me or slam are getting lynched, worst scenario ever.

TL towns br0
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 11 2013 19:06 GMT
#1244
good good, so i will get rid of that "meta read" after this game.
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December 11 2013 19:10 GMT
#1246
On December 12 2013 04:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On December 12 2013 03:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
not to mention that it isn't even a contradiction to begin with, YOU SEE ME GETTING RID OF ALAKASLAM IN THE THREAD. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT RID OF HIM IF I'M MAFIA. good lord.

it is a contradiction if you say you are town for getting rid of the 4th mafia and that you would leave him in as scum. Then you admit that you would get rid of him because you like a real game. Night killing him for the hell of it is no different than lynching him for the hell of it when you could get a better lynch from 'dumping your vote on spaghetti"


I don't think you realize the difference between pushing somebody in thread and night killing them. Hint: one can be seen by everybody, the other cannot.

Lmao

"He adds another scumplayer to my team, why would I want to get rid of him ever?"

That's your quote right there bud. Explain why you'd want to nightkill a scumplayer if you were scum. Or don't since like you said: You'd never want to get rid of him ever.

That's pretty definate statement right there. Saying that you would NK him as scum is a 100% contradiction. You're saying that Slam is a scum asset that scum would want to stay in the game no matter what.


you have down syndrome. If I said that and then night killed him you would think im town as a result. hence the difference between seeing and not seeing. Go away.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 11 2013 20:57 GMT
#1322
no, it is because rayn and kush claim to be able to read me. I welcome being lynched just so that they know they can't
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United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 20:59 GMT
#1326
and i can easily explain what you just quoted, another stupid non-contradiction. Nobody in their right mind is gonna bus day 1 unless you are grack/mocsta and legit hate playing with eachother. He was bussed in portal on like what? day 4/5?
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December 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#1327
i failed to get alakaslam lynched so whatever. didn't do my job as town this game
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United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 21:05 GMT
#1338
the irony of the 2 people most wanting to kill alakaslam being up for lynch.

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 11 2013 21:05 GMT
#1339
im going to start playing like him, seems to be very effective
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December 11 2013 21:05 GMT
#1340
YOU EAT ICE FUCK ICE LOL@2222? CHEZINUE? HURDPRUp?
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December 11 2013 21:08 GMT
#1345
i don't agree at all, I townread spag. it's in my filter. Learned nada
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December 11 2013 21:10 GMT
#1348
On December 12 2013 06:09 Alakaslam wrote:
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On December 12 2013 06:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
YOU EAT ICE FUCK ICE LOL@2222? CHEZINUE? HURDPRUp?

The explosion was my doing, I take responsibility. I threw gas from my hand and it cloned back and burned me.

Thou art so disgruntled that you are equally aiding scum. How does this fact evade you?


I throw bird in bush one time give back you football.

You can't burn ice with me! Feather hat!

blazinghand where are you now?

I love frog horse he give me bath.


please galaxy give me ICE
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 11 2013 21:11 GMT
#1351
I've already used that character, I was mafia in TL mafia 2
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December 11 2013 21:12 GMT
#1352
unfortunately their was clues in night posts so i was caught
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December 11 2013 22:02 GMT
#1371
To be clear we don't have time to waste on alakaslam now so I'm ignoring him from now on scum or not. Real game starts after the flip tomorrow, see you then.
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Profile Joined October 2012
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December 12 2013 03:55 GMT
#1395
how is kush on the same level as alakaslam and coag 0o? he contributes in plain english. Hell even Coag gives reads occasionally or you can get him to talk if you lie about masoning him.
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December 12 2013 04:02 GMT
#1400
On December 12 2013 12:58 Plutarch wrote:
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On December 12 2013 12:52 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:41 Plutarch wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:37 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:33 Plutarch wrote:
Anyway. I feel like I should take responsibility for the mis-lynch. Reading back on the way things went down I think I should have seen signs of spag's townieness but I just didn't. Anyway I'm going to post something about the way the wagon went down later. It felt like there was a lot of opportunistic jumping on to the wagon at the last minute.

The key is took look at which reasoning and voting appears to be genuine and which appears to be faked.

I'll write a big post and post it before the night ends.

I'll also be around on and off for the next 10- hours or so if anyone want's to chat.


I do!

On December 11 2013 23:17 Plutarch wrote:
Also, Never ever ever make association cases before people have flipped.


Do you really stand by this? Would you consider association cases and interactions to be that different?


Yes. Association cases before flips are just dumb. I consider analyzing interactions to be an important part of scum hunting, but if a case only works if both of the associations are scum and neither have flipped the case is worthless until one of them flips.


Sweet, have you looked at jarjar?


A little. He seemed to bandwagon easily and without much justification at the end of the day.


Do you know of his meta btw? He likes to tunnel people as scum. I have confirmation bias so look at it objectively and see if you find him tunneling me then not giving a shit about the lynch once it's clear that me or spag is lynched. He doesn't try to argue that I should be lynched at all after a certain point, just let's it happen.
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December 12 2013 04:11 GMT
#1406
On December 12 2013 13:08 Plutarch wrote:
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On December 12 2013 13:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:58 Plutarch wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:52 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:41 Plutarch wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:37 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:33 Plutarch wrote:
Anyway. I feel like I should take responsibility for the mis-lynch. Reading back on the way things went down I think I should have seen signs of spag's townieness but I just didn't. Anyway I'm going to post something about the way the wagon went down later. It felt like there was a lot of opportunistic jumping on to the wagon at the last minute.

The key is took look at which reasoning and voting appears to be genuine and which appears to be faked.

I'll write a big post and post it before the night ends.

I'll also be around on and off for the next 10- hours or so if anyone want's to chat.


I do!

On December 11 2013 23:17 Plutarch wrote:
Also, Never ever ever make association cases before people have flipped.


Do you really stand by this? Would you consider association cases and interactions to be that different?


Yes. Association cases before flips are just dumb. I consider analyzing interactions to be an important part of scum hunting, but if a case only works if both of the associations are scum and neither have flipped the case is worthless until one of them flips.


Sweet, have you looked at jarjar?


A little. He seemed to bandwagon easily and without much justification at the end of the day.


Do you know of his meta btw? He likes to tunnel people as scum. I have confirmation bias so look at it objectively and see if you find him tunneling me then not giving a shit about the lynch once it's clear that me or spag is lynched. He doesn't try to argue that I should be lynched at all after a certain point, just let's it happen.


He also afk's as scum as you should well know by being scum with him in Les Mafia.


true he has been pretty active, probably town.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 12 2013 04:40 GMT
#1420
not like I didn't already address that fifty times but whatevs. We just got out of discussing time to die and people still make the same mistakes, whats the point?
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December 12 2013 05:23 GMT
#1422
On December 12 2013 04:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On December 12 2013 04:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
not to mention that it isn't even a contradiction to begin with, YOU SEE ME GETTING RID OF ALAKASLAM IN THE THREAD. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT RID OF HIM IF I'M MAFIA. good lord.

it is a contradiction if you say you are town for getting rid of the 4th mafia and that you would leave him in as scum. Then you admit that you would get rid of him because you like a real game. Night killing him for the hell of it is no different than lynching him for the hell of it when you could get a better lynch from 'dumping your vote on spaghetti"


I don't think you realize the difference between pushing somebody in thread and night killing them. Hint: one can be seen by everybody, the other cannot.

Lmao

"He adds another scumplayer to my team, why would I want to get rid of him ever?"

That's your quote right there bud. Explain why you'd want to nightkill a scumplayer if you were scum. Or don't since like you said: You'd never want to get rid of him ever.

That's pretty definate statement right there. Saying that you would NK him as scum is a 100% contradiction. You're saying that Slam is a scum asset that scum would want to stay in the game no matter what.


you have down syndrome. If I said that and then night killed him you would think im town as a result. hence the difference between seeing and not seeing. Go away.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 12 2013 05:38 GMT
#1425
yea we are masoned
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VayneAuthority
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December 12 2013 05:58 GMT
#1428
nah dude we are masoned. coag just told me he thinks xigxag and plutarch are scummy, and that corazon is butthurt or somethin
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 12 2013 06:43 GMT
#1437
we were fucking around before anyone gets too serious, we aren't masoned
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December 12 2013 06:46 GMT
#1440
he was town in time to die so it must be true. coag 100% town.

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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 12 2013 06:50 GMT
#1442
On December 08 2013 13:38 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno, a lot of people in this game seemed to pick up on "scum tells" that aren't real scum tells. Like misrepresenting someone isn't a tell, it's just being forgetful or misunderstanding sometimes. It's one thing to lie but to lie about something so obviously fact checkable is a thing i don't think scums would ever do.



time to die never happened, stone age mafia
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 12 2013 07:10 GMT
#1447
i don't know what that means and I don't play mafia outside of TL anymore
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December 12 2013 08:22 GMT
#1451
we are making progress my friend
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December 12 2013 08:23 GMT
#1452
also lol'd at marv being the same player as me, got 'em

nobody except marv would say "juicy" so i think that is confirmed by now
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December 12 2013 20:18 GMT
#1605
what a waste of 150 posts considering im town, just arguing about why people voted spag instead of me lol
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December 12 2013 21:06 GMT
#1645
that's what I was trying to figure out. it doesn't specify what the zerg uses so he may have been shot by the vig and mafia since we have no roleblocker.
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VayneAuthority
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December 12 2013 21:08 GMT
#1649
so yea HF got doublestacked by mafia and our vig, too strong
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December 12 2013 21:09 GMT
#1651
How can corazon be scum? He's pretty much confirmed vig now after his claim and the HF shot. no one else would do that.
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December 12 2013 21:10 GMT
#1653
Of course, I always read the game fully even if I do not comment on most of it
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United States8983 Posts
December 12 2013 21:15 GMT
#1660
the tunnel continues. down syndrome tends to have that affect
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December 12 2013 21:24 GMT
#1667
On December 13 2013 06:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On December 13 2013 06:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
the tunnel continues. down syndrome tends to have that affect
You do realize that Downs Syndrome is an affliction that affects real people. Maybe you should consider the possibility that some of the people reading this has friends or family that are affected by it before you starting throwing it around as a insult. Don't be so ignorant.


maybe you should realize how retarded you sound
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VayneAuthority
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December 12 2013 21:24 GMT
#1668
you literally couldn't have shittier reasons for why I am scum
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December 12 2013 21:27 GMT
#1670
then policy lynch me as I said I don't care. This town is garbage anyway
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December 12 2013 21:38 GMT
#1677
I take care of the mentally ill for my profession so fuck off with your reightous bullshit.
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December 12 2013 21:40 GMT
#1678
if you are going to use morals or whatever you want to call it as an excuse to avoid playing the game, great. Don't try to make me feel bad when you don't know shit about me kid.
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December 13 2013 02:11 GMT
#1695
tell me what you think about LSB kush. He is my biggest scumread after re-reading filters during downtime
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December 13 2013 04:00 GMT
#1711
plutarch cannot be marv actually, timezone is way off. it's some one else
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December 13 2013 04:40 GMT
#1723
who wanted to know why I didn't want alakaslam vig'd? they got their confirmed answer more then just my word...it never actually happens
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December 13 2013 04:48 GMT
#1725
On December 13 2013 13:45 Plutarch wrote:
What do you two think of LSB?


once you reach the end of the thread you'll find out

(my number one scumread after re-reading)
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December 13 2013 04:49 GMT
#1726
so far im at LSB and one of artanis/rayn.

as always these reads may or may not be fake until im actually going to die.
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December 13 2013 19:33 GMT
#1874
##vote: LSB
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December 13 2013 19:44 GMT
#1877
I realized after that medic could have also saved but I had thought HF one of the more townie people day 1 so I figured he was just double shot since it is more likely then a save.

Simple probability
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December 13 2013 19:58 GMT
#1885
On December 14 2013 04:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On December 14 2013 04:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I realized after that medic could have also saved but I had thought HF one of the more townie people day 1 so I figured he was just double shot since it is more likely then a save.

Simple probability

OK, but it specifically said "Shot by an ASS-bullet".

So basically, there were 2 deaths. One says that the person was vig-killed, the other says the person was SK-killed.

Why would you not assume that a person killed by mafia would get a similiar cause of death?


I don't particularly follow? this is like an alakaslam post, english please
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December 13 2013 20:02 GMT
#1891
On December 14 2013 05:01 Grackaroni wrote:
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On December 14 2013 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 14 2013 04:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On December 14 2013 04:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I realized after that medic could have also saved but I had thought HF one of the more townie people day 1 so I figured he was just double shot since it is more likely then a save.

Simple probability

OK, but it specifically said "Shot by an ASS-bullet".

So basically, there were 2 deaths. One says that the person was vig-killed, the other says the person was SK-killed.

Why would you not assume that a person killed by mafia would get a similiar cause of death?


I don't particularly follow? this is like an alakaslam post, english please

This is what he is saying:
hosts tells us vig shot HF from the kill flavor
hosts tells us SK shot bum from the kill flavor.
Why wouldn't the hosts tell us who mafia shot? (I think they would.)


I have no idea and that's a stupid question lol. i'm not a host
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 13 2013 20:07 GMT
#1895
same heuristic I used to determine HF was town.

On December 11 2013 13:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
I find holy's reasoning or lack of it townie considering I found him to be a paranoid player from the time to die scum qt. he would not let something like that tarnish his image as scum. He just spent pages arguing against a slam lynch and then opts to vote him. does he do that as scum? doubtful.


grack is a similar scum player, very worried in the scum qt. I think he is lurking too much and just posting random shit too much to be scum this game.
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United States8983 Posts
December 13 2013 20:09 GMT
#1896
On December 14 2013 05:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 05:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 14 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 14 2013 05:01 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 14 2013 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 14 2013 04:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On December 14 2013 04:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I realized after that medic could have also saved but I had thought HF one of the more townie people day 1 so I figured he was just double shot since it is more likely then a save.

Simple probability

OK, but it specifically said "Shot by an ASS-bullet".

So basically, there were 2 deaths. One says that the person was vig-killed, the other says the person was SK-killed.

Why would you not assume that a person killed by mafia would get a similiar cause of death?


I don't particularly follow? this is like an alakaslam post, english please

This is what he is saying:
hosts tells us vig shot HF from the kill flavor
hosts tells us SK shot bum from the kill flavor.
Why wouldn't the hosts tell us who mafia shot? (I think they would.)

Well if you believe this you should be lynching JJD because he is lying then.

I don't see where he is lying.

I PMed the host and they confirmed. So believe me when I say that the NK could have meant doublestacked. Which means Vayne knew that when he'd have no reason to.


you really need to take a step back and realize that you are basing your entire game off of something that isn't alignment indicative at all. I always post a stream of consciousness after a phase ends without thinking much about what I am saying.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 13 2013 20:19 GMT
#1902
alright I am ignoring you the rest of the game, full blown you know what ( dont wanna offend anyone)
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 13 2013 20:38 GMT
#1904
read my filter and you'll have all those answers except purple, who I don't know about yet
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 13 2013 20:46 GMT
#1907
On December 14 2013 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know you think he is scum and one of me/Artanis, but i don't know why you think he is scum.


I read his filter and didn't like it the most, read like scum to me.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 13 2013 20:47 GMT
#1908
and if you are not scum I think artanis is a good place for your vote. I don't wanna waste a lynch on you guys since the town one will most likely be shot or we can just have both of you for longer and see who can't keep up.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 13 2013 20:47 GMT
#1909
is not*
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 19:58 GMT
#2121
what made people scared to lynch LSB? all he did was come back and say oh guess ill vote vayne so i dont die. ???
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:14 GMT
#2137
voting for purple at this point would just be committing suicide rayn, you would have to get more votes to even consder it. No one answered my question tho on why LSB support is dwindling when all he did was come back and vote me.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:21 GMT
#2146
On December 15 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 05:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
voting for purple at this point would just be committing suicide rayn, you would have to get more votes to even consder it. No one answered my question tho on why LSB support is dwindling when all he did was come back and vote me.

...???

I don't think LSB is scum. What do you think will happen on D3 if we lynch LSB and he flips town?


then i'll be wrong? but what you are asking me to do right now is essentially kill myself which doesn't help town at all. I was just curious why you think him coming back and voting me makes him town.
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United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:24 GMT
#2149
not like we need to know the votecount, vote who you think is scum and be done with it. The only reason to want to know it is to manipulate the voting. What's done will be done
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:28 GMT
#2158
On December 15 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 05:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 15 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 15 2013 05:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
voting for purple at this point would just be committing suicide rayn, you would have to get more votes to even consder it. No one answered my question tho on why LSB support is dwindling when all he did was come back and vote me.

...???

I don't think LSB is scum. What do you think will happen on D3 if we lynch LSB and he flips town?


then i'll be wrong? but what you are asking me to do right now is essentially kill myself which doesn't help town at all. I was just curious why you think him coming back and voting me makes him town.

It does not make him town. It does not make him scum either.
Look at what you are doing atm, the same thing, voting for him and not considering other options because it might kill you.

I don't like the fact everyone here right now thinks purple is scummy but noone wants to vote for him.
We have like ~8 ppl here ugh.. This lynch does not look good imo. :/


there's just that little minor difference about me being the first person to mention LSB being scum and him having never talked about me and voting me randomly...if you can't see that difference idk man
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:43 GMT
#2187
probably gonna get lynched, so yea please kill LSB, artanis, and maybe even JJD when I flip town since his tunnel is playing to his scum meta.

4th scum is probably some random llurker so don't really care
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United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:46 GMT
#2194
On December 15 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
probably gonna get lynched, so yea please kill LSB, artanis, and maybe even JJD when I flip town since his tunnel is playing to his scum meta.

4th scum is probably some random llurker so don't really care

You will not get lynched.
I'll make sure of it.

Now vote for purple, if the vote is not enough we switch to LSB. but purple is scum.


that really is not an option, look at the voting. it would have to be LSB or XX and XX would be a shot in the dark
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:46 GMT
#2195
unless we can magically get 3 vote switches in the next 10 mins
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December 14 2013 20:50 GMT
#2203
perhaps you missed the part where he started going through the game then stopped at like 3 people and then just voted me lol
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:52 GMT
#2212
it's not going to do anything

##unvote

##vote: purple

im dead poretty much unless miracle
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:53 GMT
#2218
remember,

LSB, Artanis, JJD, lurker

other option is JJD is just really bad and it's 2 lurkers
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:56 GMT
#2227
Don't know how I feel about this. might be the crab I guess
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:57 GMT
#2233
actually rayne you are right he is scum, nj
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:59 GMT
#2240
wait im dead
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:59 GMT
#2241
alakaslam and purple are scum.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 20:59 GMT
#2245
purple is 100% scum, some one help me out here
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#2253
why did alakaslam and purple try to force kill me together? right after alakaslam said he wanted purple lynched
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:02 GMT
#2257
On December 15 2013 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 05:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Alakaslam what r u doing w/ ur vote?

Making sure if it is equal between vayne and LSB it winds up being vayne. I would prefer purple and cig.


and then you and purple vote to try and kill me.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:06 GMT
#2265
k now some one try and explain what alakaslam just tried to do, plz.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:08 GMT
#2271
also rayn, i saw what you meant after I read this

On December 12 2013 02:14 purpletrator wrote:
hey kush, why did/do you have me as green?


good enough reason to vote him
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:09 GMT
#2274
purple and LSB have association tells galore in his filter, I don't see why we don't lynch LSB too
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:23 GMT
#2292
Whoever our cop is should risk it another night and probably come out tomorrow if it helps at all. can't wait any longer with 2 NKs every day.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:24 GMT
#2293
I advise checking LSB or Slam to save us some headaches.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:27 GMT
#2297
On December 15 2013 06:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 06:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
Whoever our cop is should risk it another night and probably come out tomorrow if it helps at all. can't wait any longer with 2 NKs every day.

Claiming is terrible until a cop checks scum. The cop should just hint in his reads if he finds town players.


Not really under these circumstances. We have the pool narrowed down so much that 2 more town added would be the tipping point. also helps solidify the 3rd day lynch.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:28 GMT
#2300
On December 15 2013 06:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
purple and LSB have association tells galore in his filter, I don't see why we don't lynch LSB too

You think the whole smurf vote thing between them was contrived?

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:33 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Worst post in thread.
##Vote: purpletrator

Kusplain?

Hello sir, I promise not to get mad at you this game

If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?

You mean to tell me you have no concern over the erroneous logic LSB used to vote me? You honestly think my response is worse than "smurfs=mafia"?
To actually answer your question, I'm wondering why LSB is wasting my time and wanted to see if he's actually trying to get a response or just trolling. When he ignored my response I chalked it up to 'just trolling'. Then you called me out, he noticed my response and now wants to fish for my identity. Now it looks scummy.
On December 10 2013 07:18 LSB wrote:
Missed this post

On December 10 2013 06:44 purpletrator wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

You could at least start in alphabetical order. What if I reveal my identity? Would you change your vote to a different smurf?

Ya, sure. Reveal please!

It was a hypothetical. I'm not revealing my identity. Good to know you dont give a shit about the lynch.

##Vote: LSB



Yea I guess that doesn't make enough sense to want to lynch him. really want a cop check on him now
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:32 GMT
#2304
On December 15 2013 05:58 purpletrator wrote:
what defense could i have?

Reads:
Rayn xata lsb sidesprang


also I think we need to give this some merit. scum feel compelled to jot down at least 1 scum usually in these things. Sidesprang should be looked into.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#2308
On December 15 2013 06:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 06:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
k now some one try and explain what alakaslam just tried to do, plz.

Tried to make sure you were lynched before LSB if it was gonna be those wagons. I didn't have confidence in Rayne, his word is now strong with me.


doesn't explain this

On December 15 2013 06:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 15 2013 05:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Alakaslam what r u doing w/ ur vote?

Making sure if it is equal between vayne and LSB it winds up being vayne. I would prefer purple and cig.


and then you and purple vote to try and kill me.



You preferred purple and saw that purple was about to be lynched, then in tandem with purple tried to last second kill me.
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 02:38 GMT
#2337
4 scum remain
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 02:58 GMT
#2346
SK we will shoot blazinghand so don't shoot him aight, don't wanna overlap
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 04:04 GMT
#2354
alakaslam is now the smartest person in the thread, my how times change
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 04:57 GMT
#2374
i hate sci fi, i would never watch star trek or star wars or any of that

and there is no motivation besides joking around, unless the SK actually believes me and I mindfuck him
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 05:08 GMT
#2381
clown baby
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 05:13 GMT
#2383
slutty cum dumpster
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 05:21 GMT
#2385
we can do this in the scum QT
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 18:39 GMT
#2487


make a joke and everyone loses their minds except alakaslam and kush LOL

actually pretty amusing
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 18:51 GMT
#2491
On December 16 2013 03:46 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah but what you did was terrible regardless of if it was a joke


do I ever do anything good as town?
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 20:41 GMT
#2499
the more important point is that he was a goon and he would not risk lynching me over him as a goon.
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 20:47 GMT
#2501
On December 16 2013 05:47 kushm4sta wrote:
he had to do it so you woulnd't look ultra scummy


not really, he could have just stayed afk if we were both scum
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
December 15 2013 20:52 GMT
#2507
no crying when I flip town if you guys are actually serious, it is obvious im not scum
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 01:50 GMT
#2549
im not scum actually lol, we'll solve this tomorrow if needed. give you guys time to become intelligent like kush
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 02:29 GMT
#2552
On December 16 2013 11:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 10:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
im not scum actually lol, we'll solve this tomorrow if needed. give you guys time to become intelligent like kush

What am I to do sir, the FoS of the Blazinghand is upon thee!

Indeed I fear I am next if you are town. Whatever they say about LSB.

How on earth is him pointing out that this is a policy lynch a "scum tell"?


because it's a misrepresentation of what this lynch is, there are multiple cases on me. The wording is strange; as if he knows I am not scum and it is wrong.
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 02:54 GMT
#2557
luckily im stukov at any rate, but we can talk more about that when more people are around
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:00 GMT
#2561
you're right, but that was probably my only chance of getting people to stop voting me. continue to play the game as if im town because that is whats going to happen
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:03 GMT
#2566
i was, but as he pointed out it doesn't make any sense at all. so guess ill just die
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:06 GMT
#2569
No im 100% town. just trying to figure out ways I can avoid being lynched
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:09 GMT
#2572
implying I care about the town or anything else besides surviving
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United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:13 GMT
#2575
just remember that you guys are really bad at this game when I flip town
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United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:16 GMT
#2577
nah, you are fucking trash at this game kid
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United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:16 GMT
#2578
and my point will be proven at the lynch
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United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:17 GMT
#2579
i know that im 100% right so there is no possible way that you are right l0l
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Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:19 GMT
#2581
You are basing a scumread off a joke I made you dumb cum dumpster.
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United States8983 Posts
December 16 2013 03:19 GMT
#2582
i played this game great, not my fault this town is garbage
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United States8983 Posts
December 22 2013 03:51 GMT
#3654
Would just like to apologize to the hosts and anyone I offended in this game, as well as people I did not offend as well because either way it probably reduced their playing experience to some degree. Have a good holiday everybody
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United States8983 Posts
December 22 2013 03:55 GMT
#3656
On December 22 2013 12:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 12:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Would just like to apologize to the hosts and anyone I offended in this game, as well as people I did not offend as well because either way it probably reduced their playing experience to some degree. Have a good holiday everybody


I <3 you even if you called me bad and a cum dumpster.


Ironically the thing that made me really annoyed was that rayn went along with the scumslip when he knows my play very well...I knew he wasn't town at that point but i forgot to mention that before getting modkilled lol

I considered you as plutarch when you brought up les mis but saw you had only 1 post in the last week so I dismissed it, clever smurf play.

<3 you too
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