II Titanic Mini Mafia - Page 2

On December 11 2013 02:51 Spaghetticus wrote:


Are you talking to me? It seems like it.

Yeah I'm getting my vicious streak out this game, I'm not usually this pissed off at everything, I swear! I've been lynched as town for being too nice!

I'm not voting Pandain. He's gonna opt out or get modkilled IMO.

I think talking about filters is legitimate when they are this small. It's why you're hitting Pandain right?

On December 11 2013 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bumatlarge do you think Pandains posting / lack of posting is the most important thing there is going on in thread?

On December 11 2013 02:57 Spaghetticus wrote:
My notes on you Bumatlarge are lacking.

Tell me about yourself. You seem nice. Would you consider it outside of your character to be aggressive? Who are you reading and which way?

You seem to be playing passively with lots of theory. This is my natural inclination too, though I'm having it beaten out of me :/

On December 11 2013 03:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Mind answering this bum?

On December 11 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Wait what? We are under 24h into the game and the only thing you want to talk about is someone who has not posted.
Do you think people voting for him now does:
1) make him magically come here posting sooner?
2) leave us with more information than pressuring other people even if he does not come back and we lynch him?

Also do you think Pandain as mafia is type of a player that goes inactive for any other than non-game related reasons? If not, why exactly are you trying to shut down discussion?

On December 11 2013 03:11 kushm4sta wrote:
how is my push on bum random?? it's obvious not random.

Bum is there a reason you want alakaslam here d2? Or did you forget about him or what?

On December 11 2013 03:11 kushm4sta wrote:
gets bluesniped d1
thinks he's the shit

On December 11 2013 03:18 kushm4sta wrote:


Why??? You are acting like a child and you are hurting my feelings.

##unvote
this explanation makes sense though

On December 11 2013 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

To me it seemed like you wanted to vote for an inactive, encouraged everyone else to vote for an inactive and therefore shut down any productive discussion until Pandain returns.

Apparently this is not true (since you started talking about other things) so carry on, my post is no longer relevant.

What do you think of my cases on Grackaroni and purpletrator?

On December 10 2013 15:48 Plutarch wrote:
Its somewhat convoluted but the basics are as follows:
1) kush is acting in such a way which reduces his thread power later in the game
2) a potential late game town player wants some power
3) if kush is town he is a potential late game town player
4) kush is not town playing for the late game
5) kush is not town playing for the early game
6) nothing kush does benefits him if he is town
7) kush is scum

You noticing something here?

On December 10 2013 15:49 Plutarch wrote:
Basically there is no way you can have a town read on kush and have it be meaningful or based on solid analysis, or any analysis at all.

On December 11 2013 03:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh hello he had to go.

Well, bumatlarge, maybe I will ask you this: does spaghetticus/xata interactions with the flaming fury maker (sorry) tell of anything at all? I am wanting to look at this as well. See what folks think.

Also, I was the first to ask for a votecount. Does this strike you as alignment indicative, are you certain my filter is "shit"? Care to check it out?

On December 11 2013 03:45 kushm4sta wrote:


Cool thanks for the tips dude!
Here's some for you.
l2play
cause frankly it's a complete disgrace that you play how you do after over 30 fucking games.

Dude, check out my massive filter

No way man, that's super minimal compared to mine

Your filter is bogus bro, no content, mines pure content

Bra, you have the reading comprehension of a first grader

On December 11 2013 03:51 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry bum something about your arrogance compels me want to flame you. dont want to start a flame war though. well i do but i shouldn't.

On December 11 2013 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
bumatlarge in fact my case on purple was not purely based on how he get on / off LSB, it was based on the fact that not a single piece of their interaction could possibly share any light on LSB's alignment to him. It was a useless contribution that was in a crappy way made look like he was contributing something.

On December 11 2013 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
Ok nobody asked me to further my read on bum when I just posted so I'm going to do it for you.

Hey, HF, what did this mean?



Oh, thanks for pointing that out!


Well here's what I'm saying. Bumatlarge is a problem in our current environment. While the game is continuously developing with speech on people, reads on others and general scum hunting his attitude is not to participate in any of this for the majority of his first and second appearences in the thread. In fact, he urges AGAINST lynching people that aren't modkill territory.



Now, as a town mindset, I don't mind this if he kept it to himself and slightly pushed for a pandain lynch over time by gently easing us into it with constructive points on why so and so is better to keep in the game than a player who looks like he just got caught up IRL. However, he effectively disregards that pandain plays actively as all alignments by saying he doesn't care what pandain is capable of:



What benefit do these interactions bring anyone other than to antagonise or hide his alignment? People are curious as to why he wants to lynch off pandain - who is quite clearly not here - and his first response is to question why people are annoyed rather than actively discuss.

He is also quite happy to give out scum read BEFORE he has read anything to do with the players:



and then we all know he completely backtracked by saying "oh i read you now you aren't scum"... A person he had a TOP scum read on suddenly becomes not scum - spag over everyone else so far - just because he decided it was apt to read up on the person he called scum after he called him scum. Giving out reads on people based off idea's in your head is not a town mentality, or if it is, it is indicative of a LAZY town, something that bumatlarge surely wouldn't be as he was trying to instruct people how to play town at the start of the game.

On December 11 2013 02:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Reading your fitler, I'm probably wrong. I didn't remember you posting alot early, but you did and it was better. You seem aggravated, I'd actually suggest stepping away from mafia for an hour or two and come back with a fresh mind.

You sure do ask a lot of questions. That's great but it's an easy way for scum to post. Think of how easy it is to poke around new threads and post question marks. Super minor though.

Your last few posts seem a little too vicious for what you are calling out. Activity is looking great this game, so let's not discuss how big our filters are, when your filter is not hard for you to generate as scum. There are much worse offenders then you, I'll try to find them. You should vote pandain though.

I could do a play by play of his following posts but he actively neglects a player in this game (kush) by saying he won't respond to questions raised by him. That being said, this is the thing that stands out to me THE MOST....

Purple has not participated in this game really AT ALL, i'd lump him in with pandain in terms of activity except purple looks way more scummy. Bum dictates that he is not using meta at all in this game and actively persuades people to not do the same but then justifies purples reads on LSB when purple indeed used meta:




He liked purples reason for getting off LSB!?!??!?!?!?! (META META META META META) Not only was purples reasoning for getting off of LSB atrocious but he is then telling us that he accepts it as a logical reason based on meta (that he doesn't want us to use) for getting off LSB? Why is it that he can pick and choose when to accept meta for people like LSB and purple but not for people like pandain etc? There is no good reason other than to say he doesn't like a purple lynch. He knows purple is a smurf, purple has been bad this game. Let's leave him alone. That is NOT a logical conclusion to draw from the entirety of his filter. I don't like it at all.

On December 10 2013 09:00 purpletrator wrote:

He fails to read things properly. I should actually read games where I know his alignment, but I dont see it making a difference tbh.

but then....





he agrees with rayn.................?



I want to hear his responses but my unvote/vote is heavily leaning towards him right now.

On December 11 2013 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
Also bum, in response to what you wrote. It is entirely NOT a twisting of words. Somebody states to you that pandain does not play like this as any alignment and is most probably afk - you state that you don't want to meta him, so are therefore not acknowledging that this isn't an afk pandain because you do not use meta, whereas, when purple comes in to talk about LSB with meta you then agree with him and have subsequently proven that you DO use meta by agreeing with his point on LSB missing things. WE CANNOT KNOW LSB'S ALIGNMENT FROM PYP SO STOP USING IT. What if he only did that as scum? Then your whole basis for liking it would be bad and we still would never know. So which is it? Are you relying on your own meta but nobody elses? Why is that the case?