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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 05 2013 09:15 GMT
#64
/in
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 07 2013 18:55 GMT
#80
I'm batman the sailor man
We'll drown as we look for land
If scum starts to plunder
I'll hold their heads under
And kill them with my bare hands
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 04:17 GMT
#376
Chapter 1 of the book of Bum: Day 1

Lynch not the active for it encourages inactivity

The votes on people who are talking are probably bad. Let Xalatis mouth off if he wants to, aside from aimless spam (Abra, I'm looking at you). A good mafia knows he will get caught if he posts without thinking. If everyone is active, good.

If thou hast reads of green, keep them to thyself til it proves fruitful.

No one gives two shits about random town reads when they aren't being threatened. Their only danger is mafia, and if they get hit then he is doing his job better then you are.

Though shalt not meta

At least not early. I.E. If I said you shouldn't lynch me day 1 because I was lynched day 1 last game as town, I'm full of shit. You may know someone, but your read is either too fresh or too old. Let this game sink in. ( lol sink)

I don't know many of you, and I'm on my phone so I can't review the thread better, but I'm not an awful player and I don't want people to fall into mentalities they shouldn't.

By the way, you shouldn't lynch because I was lynched day 1 last game and I was town.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 04:24 GMT
#381
On December 10 2013 13:21 LSB wrote:
I think you need to add a new page to your book Bum.
Thou shall not betray own plan in PYP mafia or else someone will replace in and mess you up.



No comment. We should probably not talk about it, because you are still playing it.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 04:30 GMT
#384
I say we lynch someone who is threatening to be modkilled. I've had that argument before and I still stand by that it's not the same as a no lynch.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 04:34 GMT
#388
Are there a lot of new players in this game?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 04:38 GMT
#393
On December 10 2013 13:33 Plutarch wrote:
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On December 10 2013 13:30 bumatlarge wrote:
I say we lynch someone who is threatening to be modkilled. I've had that argument before and I still stand by that it's not the same as a no lynch.


That is fine if we are really stuck for someone to lynch. But as I stated earlier; I would much rather try to find scum day one than settle on a lurker lynch which is essentially a coin-flip.


The best scum hunters aren't good early. Talkative scum have to be brilliant to not make mistakes early. They would only benefit if they are a lot quicker/smarter then us. I'd like I not think that.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 04:51 GMT
#400
On December 10 2013 13:42 Plutarch wrote:
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On December 10 2013 13:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:38 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:33 Plutarch wrote:
On December 10 2013 13:30 bumatlarge wrote:
I say we lynch someone who is threatening to be modkilled. I've had that argument before and I still stand by that it's not the same as a no lynch.


That is fine if we are really stuck for someone to lynch. But as I stated earlier; I would much rather try to find scum day one than settle on a lurker lynch which is essentially a coin-flip.


The best scum hunters aren't good early. Talkative scum have to be brilliant to not make mistakes early. They would only benefit if they are a lot quicker/smarter then us. I'd like I not think that.


I disagree.


As do I.


I'd be more then happy if I were proved wrong with scum lynch right now. Assuming you aren't calling me stupid. Have at you!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 04:57 GMT
#404
Facts>Analysis>information.

Information is subjectively valued. In standard setups, information is massively overshadowed by conclusions drawn from all information. Information is a too insubstantial this early.

I'd be more then happy to keep filling up the thread with this gentleman talk if you'll oblige.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 05:24 GMT
#407
On December 10 2013 14:04 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 10 2013 13:57 bumatlarge wrote:
Facts>Analysis>information.

Information is subjectively valued. In standard setups, information is massively overshadowed by conclusions drawn from all information. Information is a too insubstantial this early.

I'd be more then happy to keep filling up the thread with this gentleman talk if you'll oblige.


1) What benefit to our fact and analysis tracking does talking about policy have?
2) What facts do we retrieve from lynching a lurker over someone that is actively participating?

I think you are misreading information as information. Analysis and facts are made from information that we gather, what analsyis can we create from lynching off a "modkillable" player compared to the wealth of analsysis that can be created from a scummy, active player.


_________________

Either way, I would much rather you talk about people in this game than further this discussion. What have you gathered so far? Were you able to fully catch up on your phone?


Information is actions, Analyses are read based. Read is such a non-intuitive word. Read is a notable opinion based on analysis. You can't have a real read so soon based on what is posted. I tried and I don't have anything that evolves into something worth pursuing right now, at least publicly.

Lynch information day 1 is weak as well. I'd like to think of it as the control, from there you can get really
Solid reads. I'd rather lynch a blank green then an active green. Don't misalign what I say, if everyone is active then you are correct, but based on experience, I'd say this doesn't happen in public games. That's just opinion. There is always some one that isn't worth keeping around as town. And if thy start arguing as scum, good.

There is really nothing to catch up on. I don't have any notable scum reads. But I'd like to keep talking with people who are willing to talk. I'm confident anything I can procure with people that are willing I talk with me is useful to very townie.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 05:29 GMT
#408
Note to everyone, I don't backspace.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 05:35 GMT
#410
If you are willing to call someone unsure, then you should be sure about something they are unsure about.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 05:46 GMT
#415
On December 10 2013 14:43 Alakaslam wrote:
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On December 10 2013 14:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On December 10 2013 08:32 Spaghetticus wrote:
I am not shifting my vote until slam does something useful to make up for his spam. I'm giving him until 6pm my time (7.5 hours from now) to do so or my vote is not changing at all regardless of anything that comes afterwards.

Pressure? yes.
Policy? yes.
Serious? yes.

Very scummy post. You're actually saying that you may sit on your vote regardless of what happens in the thread? Basically giving yourself an built-in excuse to make your vote not matter (and unable to be analyzed) if slam isn't one of the leading wagons?

Ice is static, water flows, and fire grows, moves, and spreads.


Are you quoting avatar?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 06:12 GMT
#420
Don't meta so early let xalatos grooooowwww
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 06:58 GMT
#435
On December 10 2013 15:49 Plutarch wrote:
Basically there is no way you can have a town read on kush and have it be meaningful or based on solid analysis, or any analysis at all.


But do you understand that you argument is probably weak? If I can't find a beater candidate, then you probably right
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 06:59 GMT
#436
On December 10 2013 15:58 Plutarch wrote:
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On December 10 2013 15:53 xigxag wrote:
On December 10 2013 15:49 Plutarch wrote:
Basically there is no way you can have a town read on kush and have it be meaningful or based on solid analysis, or any analysis at all.


Or I am better than you. I have the read and you have not refuted it.

Doubtful.

What I am saying is that you have provided justification that kush is town and the entire reasoning that you provided can be used to justify both a town and a scum kush, thus, your justification is flawed and every reason you stated for kush to be town is in fact a null tell.


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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 07:15 GMT
#441
On December 10 2013 15:49 Plutarch wrote:
Basically there is no way you can have a town read on kush and have it be meaningful or based on solid analysis, or any analysis at all.


Damn you are good. Keep postind
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 16:58 GMT
#757
Spaghetti man is pretty mafia. I'd lynch him if pandain was here. Kushmasta seems super silly. If you have to (/green) things this early that aren't questions to the host, you are playing badly.

##Vote Pandain
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 17:40 GMT
#776
Reading your fitler, I'm probably wrong. I didn't remember you posting alot early, but you did and it was better. You seem aggravated, I'd actually suggest stepping away from mafia for an hour or two and come back with a fresh mind.

You sure do ask a lot of questions. That's great but it's an easy way for scum to post. Think of how easy it is to poke around new threads and post question marks. Super minor though.

Your last few posts seem a little too vicious for what you are calling out. Activity is looking great this game, so let's not discuss how big our filters are, when your filter is not hard for you to generate as scum. There are much worse offenders then you, I'll try to find them. You should vote pandain though.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2013 17:49 GMT
#779
I don't understand your logic kushmasta. I don't think I ever will. You read what you want, and interpret things how you want. I don't know if you do it purposely but please explain it to me. I've only played PYP with you, and your still playing that so I won't bring it up, but you are being virtually identical in how random your reads are.
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