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Blazinghand
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Alak tell me about LSB. Do you think he's scum? Does this post, your most recent one seriously concerning him, summarize your views accurately?
On December 16 2013 13:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Well...
Anyway I am confident anyone who reads me will find my alignment. I have explained all my motives.
I was thinking, next most likely to be scum at one point was LSB. I thought he might be more likely to produce info than vayne but now he has gone done been scummy. Again.
Shalt be as I hoped sir LSB?
Xata I have been suspicious of early and have since dropped it. I forget why. I may go read him.
If you think I am scummy, vote me and state why in that post so I can react-defend, thank you in advance.
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@Blazing, I don't feel like repeating myself. I believe what you are trying to ask is "why aren't you playing like me?" or more indirectly I think you are trying to figure out "If I am just bandwagoning the major targets". My main answer is I am more interested in getting the people I think that are scum lynched. Thus my answer is yes. I will bandwagon the person who I feel is most likely to be lynch if that will get them lynched.
On December 17 2013 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
a last minute vote to a wagon that's not happening is opting out of the discourse. Then I opted out of the discourse because I got suspicious of Rayne's snap wagon. As scum. I "knew" the bus was going down when I initially voted purple. You guys take me for a fool scum? You're kidding me, grab dat towncred with both hands. No way I'm giving up being part of a bus, to defend a teammate who is clearly getting suspicious enough for the snapwagon to happen anyway. If I was as knowledgable about the implications of the switch as you all imply with my "lie" then I would have known it didn't save purple and would not have done it. I take this as an insult to my scum play.
This is the full explanation
So apparently Alakaslam thinks that both XigXag and purpletrator are mafia, so he switches his vote off of purpletrator onto XigXag minutes before the deadline so VayneAuthority the person who he has a green read on, will be lynched.
Alakaslam is clearly lying and tried a last minute save of his teammate
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
I'm not trying to say the way you play is impossible for town to play; I just want to get more insight into your thought process. You and I clearly think differently, and that fact doesn't make you scum. It doesn't give you a pass in showing a townie motivation, though. I don't want you to repeat yourself. Perhaps i have not properly phrased my questions. I want to read a paragraph written by you, and by doing so, begin to think a little more like you and understand your motivations, got it?
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
I like your explanation for why alak is scum, I just think that it still applies even if Xata is town.
Like let me phrase it this way
Imagine all possible worlds in which Alak is town. In some of those worlds, Xata is also scum, but it not ALL of those possible worlds. Xata's scumminess seems to be (at least via your thought process; I could be wrong) a function of alak's scumminess, which means it's less likely Xat is scum than Alak
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Lab has been as I hoped.
Not really misconstruing even as bad as I would expect town to.
I'm up for xigxag exclusivo.
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On December 17 2013 09:49 LSB wrote:@Blazing, I don't feel like repeating myself. I believe what you are trying to ask is "why aren't you playing like me?" or more indirectly I think you are trying to figure out "If I am just bandwagoning the major targets". My main answer is I am more interested in getting the people I think that are scum lynched. Thus my answer is yes. I will bandwagon the person who I feel is most likely to be lynch if that will get them lynched. Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:On December 17 2013 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
a last minute vote to a wagon that's not happening is opting out of the discourse. Then I opted out of the discourse because I got suspicious of Rayne's snap wagon. As scum. I "knew" the bus was going down when I initially voted purple. You guys take me for a fool scum? You're kidding me, grab dat towncred with both hands. No way I'm giving up being part of a bus, to defend a teammate who is clearly getting suspicious enough for the snapwagon to happen anyway. If I was as knowledgable about the implications of the switch as you all imply with my "lie" then I would have known it didn't save purple and would not have done it. I take this as an insult to my scum play. This is the full explanation Show nested quote +So apparently Alakaslam thinks that both XigXag and purpletrator are mafia, so he switches his vote off of purpletrator onto XigXag minutes before the deadline so VayneAuthority the person who he has a green read on, will be lynched.
Alakaslam is clearly lying and tried a last minute save of his teammate
This assumes I believed vayne would wind up being the target.
That is the fallacy. I don't think I knew that at the time. Either I knew it wouldn't change anything or I thought it had a chance or neither, I simply panicked.
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On December 17 2013 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
I like your explanation for why alak is scum, I just think that it still applies even if Xata is town.
Like let me phrase it this way
Imagine all possible worlds in which Alak is town. In some of those worlds, Xata is also scum, but it not ALL of those possible worlds. Xata's scumminess seems to be (at least via your thought process; I could be wrong) a function of alak's scumminess, which means it's less likely Xat is scum than Alak
Both of my cases are independent of each other. So it doesn't apply in this case
But yes, should one of my cases be dependent on the other being scum (A is scum if B is scum) (ie PYP mafia day 3) I am more willing to lynch B first, and then A.
I'd prefer we stop this discussion simply because it has little relevance to what is actually going on in this game. I am more than happy to take it to PMs or postgame if you want to chat about optimal mafia play. Should you wish to defend Xata I am all ears
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On December 17 2013 10:01 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
I like your explanation for why alak is scum, I just think that it still applies even if Xata is town.
Like let me phrase it this way
Imagine all possible worlds in which Alak is town. In some of those worlds, Xata is also scum, but it not ALL of those possible worlds. Xata's scumminess seems to be (at least via your thought process; I could be wrong) a function of alak's scumminess, which means it's less likely Xat is scum than Alak Both of my cases are independent of each other. So it doesn't apply in this case But yes, should one of my cases be dependent on the other being scum (A is scum if B is scum) (ie PYP mafia day 3) I am more willing to lynch B first, and then A. I'd prefer we stop this discussion simply because it has little relevance to what is actually going on in this game. I am more than happy to take it to PMs or postgame if you want to chat about optimal mafia play. Should you wish to defend Xata I am all ears
Please don't take that to PM's. I think some could observe, and learn.
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On December 17 2013 09:58 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 09:49 LSB wrote:@Blazing, I don't feel like repeating myself. I believe what you are trying to ask is "why aren't you playing like me?" or more indirectly I think you are trying to figure out "If I am just bandwagoning the major targets". My main answer is I am more interested in getting the people I think that are scum lynched. Thus my answer is yes. I will bandwagon the person who I feel is most likely to be lynch if that will get them lynched. On December 17 2013 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:On December 17 2013 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
a last minute vote to a wagon that's not happening is opting out of the discourse. Then I opted out of the discourse because I got suspicious of Rayne's snap wagon. As scum. I "knew" the bus was going down when I initially voted purple. You guys take me for a fool scum? You're kidding me, grab dat towncred with both hands. No way I'm giving up being part of a bus, to defend a teammate who is clearly getting suspicious enough for the snapwagon to happen anyway. If I was as knowledgable about the implications of the switch as you all imply with my "lie" then I would have known it didn't save purple and would not have done it. I take this as an insult to my scum play. This is the full explanation So apparently Alakaslam thinks that both XigXag and purpletrator are mafia, so he switches his vote off of purpletrator onto XigXag minutes before the deadline so VayneAuthority the person who he has a green read on, will be lynched.
Alakaslam is clearly lying and tried a last minute save of his teammate This assumes I believed vayne would wind up being the target. That is the fallacy. I don't think I knew that at the time. Either I knew it wouldn't change anything or I thought it had a chance or neither, I simply panicked.
You did it 2 minutes before the deadline... and at the same time as Purpletrator...
Next game, do it 1 minute before the deadline and you might be able to pull it off
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On December 17 2013 10:01 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
I like your explanation for why alak is scum, I just think that it still applies even if Xata is town.
Like let me phrase it this way
Imagine all possible worlds in which Alak is town. In some of those worlds, Xata is also scum, but it not ALL of those possible worlds. Xata's scumminess seems to be (at least via your thought process; I could be wrong) a function of alak's scumminess, which means it's less likely Xat is scum than Alak Both of my cases are independent of each other. So it doesn't apply in this case But yes, should one of my cases be dependent on the other being scum (A is scum if B is scum) (ie PYP mafia day 3) I am more willing to lynch B first, and then A. I'd prefer we stop this discussion simply because it has little relevance to what is actually going on in this game. I am more than happy to take it to PMs or postgame if you want to chat about optimal mafia play. Should you wish to defend Xata I am all ears
in case it's not clear i'm also trying to discern your alignment and your veracity. whether or not you really believe what you're saying, or if i've caught you in an inconsistency and you're trying to chalk it up to "tomato tomato"
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On December 17 2013 10:04 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 09:58 Alakaslam wrote:On December 17 2013 09:49 LSB wrote:@Blazing, I don't feel like repeating myself. I believe what you are trying to ask is "why aren't you playing like me?" or more indirectly I think you are trying to figure out "If I am just bandwagoning the major targets". My main answer is I am more interested in getting the people I think that are scum lynched. Thus my answer is yes. I will bandwagon the person who I feel is most likely to be lynch if that will get them lynched. On December 17 2013 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:On December 17 2013 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
a last minute vote to a wagon that's not happening is opting out of the discourse. Then I opted out of the discourse because I got suspicious of Rayne's snap wagon. As scum. I "knew" the bus was going down when I initially voted purple. You guys take me for a fool scum? You're kidding me, grab dat towncred with both hands. No way I'm giving up being part of a bus, to defend a teammate who is clearly getting suspicious enough for the snapwagon to happen anyway. If I was as knowledgable about the implications of the switch as you all imply with my "lie" then I would have known it didn't save purple and would not have done it. I take this as an insult to my scum play. This is the full explanation So apparently Alakaslam thinks that both XigXag and purpletrator are mafia, so he switches his vote off of purpletrator onto XigXag minutes before the deadline so VayneAuthority the person who he has a green read on, will be lynched.
Alakaslam is clearly lying and tried a last minute save of his teammate This assumes I believed vayne would wind up being the target. That is the fallacy. I don't think I knew that at the time. Either I knew it wouldn't change anything or I thought it had a chance or neither, I simply panicked. You did it 2 minutes before the deadline... and at the same time as Purpletrator... Next game, do it 1 minute before the deadline and you might be able to pull it off
Well good on purple.
If you panicked and did that as town and can't quite remember why, except to point out where you stand, do you know what you would say to this argument? Because, if not I want your help defending myself post game. People are gonna go all vayne on me I dot know why I do this stuff.
Quote coming will explain what I mean.
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On December 10 2013 16:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will say though that playing as scum last game you probably realize that Slam basically adds another scum to the game as either alignment. So I'm fine with lynching him regardless unless something very convincing goes down.
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I swear I don't do that on purpose, this shi stuff just happens. I swear I thought it was a pro town move somehow.
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What's with all this postgame stuff? If you flip green and really need some help just pm me and I'll be happy to help.
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Anyway I think regardless xigxag out. Until further notice.
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On December 17 2013 04:18 Xatalos wrote:
Fine then. Let's see if he comes back to post now.
##Vote XigXag
This is why Xatalos is SK/Mafia.
Xatalos is clearly invested in the game due to how much he has been posting, yet he has not once seemed to be invested in the outcome of the lynch and has only sheeped.
He has made reads but has never really pushed them to be lynched and has instead followed some other lynch.
Xatalos is scum and needs to die today.
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On December 17 2013 10:26 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 04:18 Xatalos wrote:
Fine then. Let's see if he comes back to post now.
##Vote XigXag This is why Xatalos is SK/Mafia. Xatalos is clearly invested in the game due to how much he has been posting, yet he has not once seemed to be invested in the outcome of the lynch and has only sheeped. He has made reads but has never really pushed them to be lynched and has instead followed some other lynch. Xatalos is scum and needs to die today.
Before a lurker lynch then...
How did I townread him?
You are sure he has only ever sheeped?
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^^man I am freaking scummy if he is scum.
Even if he isn't that post
Hijole
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Welp coag just got banned
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